Impeachment, yes or no

[NowhereInTime]

Continuing on impeachment:

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/07/29/democrats-have-million-dollar-day-on-impeachment/20938810/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D508424

Not looking good for the GOP.  Boehner has to publicly walk back impeachment talk.  Every time one of his scatterbrained 'baggers opens their foamy mouths, Democrats pick up another $1 million in campaign contributions.

74,000 new donors to the Democrat roles since the self-righteous began their impeachment drumbeat.

Dems have beaten 'baggers 14 of the last 16 months in fundraising heading into this Congressional election.  Pretty good for a "center-right" country.

[albrecht]

Continuing on impeachment:

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/07/29/democrats-have-million-dollar-day-on-impeachment/20938810/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D508424

Not looking good for the GOP.  Boehner has to publicly walk back impeachment talk.  Every time one of his scatterbrained 'baggers opens their foamy mouths, Democrats pick up another $1 million in campaign contributions.

74,000 new donors to the Democrat roles since the self-righteous began their impeachment drumbeat.

Dems have beaten 'baggers 14 of the last 16 months in fundraising heading into this Congressional election.  Pretty good for a "center-right" country.

Exactly, as Boehner said the whole impeachment thing was a Democrat idea. It is a fund-raising ploy. They are out to get my God! I must send them money! And the talk of impeachment takes attention away from the actual performance problems, at least for a while. Because short of maybe personally shooting an innocent person there is no way any Democrat will impeach, or even investigate, Obama. So it is a ridiculous option.

[PB the Deplorable]

You know exactly why.  Every person who doesn't obsess politics (most people) like we do here confuse "conservative" with "conservation"...

Not even a good try.  I doubt even one person out there thinks that.  Not one Lib, not one 'Progressive', not one Leftist ever mistakenly voted for a candidate claiming to be a 'conservative' because they confused 'conservative' with 'conservation'. 

Probably a few non-doctrinaire Libs have voted for someone because they claimed they were a 'fiscal' conservative.  I remember even Nancy Pelosi used to call herself a 'fiscal' conservative.

Most of the country thinks Conservatives are better at handling the economy and are better at handling foreign affairs, and they are right.

[PB the Deplorable]

Continuing on impeachment:

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/07/29/democrats-have-million-dollar-day-on-impeachment/20938810/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D508424

Not looking good for the GOP.  Boehner has to publicly walk back impeachment talk.  Every time one of his scatterbrained 'baggers opens their foamy mouths, Democrats pick up another $1 million in campaign contributions.

74,000 new donors to the Democrat roles since the self-righteous began their impeachment drumbeat.

Dems have beaten 'baggers 14 of the last 16 months in fundraising heading into this Congressional election.  Pretty good for a "center-right" country.

Let's be clear.

Obama is exactly the wrong person to be President at this time in our nations history (to be sure, there never is a good time for someone like this)

A Moslem, or a Moslem sympathizer, a friend to the Terrorist Moslem Brotherhood, to their creation Hamas, and to the Hamas front group known as CAIR.

A Marxist - exactly the wrong person to address our economy after the 2008 meltdown

A hater with the Black Liberation theology chip on his shoulder - these Leftists have done much damage to race relations.  There is never a good time for these shit stirrers.

Inexperienced, incompetent, steeped in Marxist ideology and Alinsky hate for the country - he has inflicted much damage.

And it's that intentional damage, manifest by the various scandals, for which he should be Impeached.


But, with 'Dingy Harry' Reid leading the Senate (actually, treating the Senate as if it were part of the Executive Branch), and too many Democrat Senators who have swallowed the Obama cool-aide, there is no chance of a Conviction in the Senate.  The Democrat Party has been infiltrated and taken over by the hard Left.  It's gone as an acceptable party to govern this country




What Boehner should be doing is to use his Constitutional Power of the Purse, and cut off funds - for the illegal 'czars', for certain offices in the IRS, for certain activity at Justice and at the EPA and, frankly, for certain activity at the White House.  And for ObamaCare, and for anything that undercuts our allies.  And that's the short list.

But he won't do it.  Because these phony Republican 'leaders' are incompetent, are cowards, work for the Chamber of Crony Capitalism instead of the people who elected them.  They are climbers, not leaders. 

And in order to cut off funds and fight, they needed to have been making the case all along - all these years.  It isn't good politics and it isn't going to work unless the groundwork has been laid, and they haven't done it.  It can't just come out of the blue like last October

[Quick Karl]

Boehner has to publicly walk back impeachment talk. 

The only people talking impeachment are morons like you and the frauds you support, because you are panicked to death that you're going to have your asses and empty-heads handed to you in November.

[onan]

The only people talking impeachment are morons like you and the frauds you support, because you are panicked to death that you're going to have your asses and empty-heads handed to you in November.

So Sarah Palin is a moron?

[NowhereInTime]

The only people talking impeachment are morons like you and the frauds you support, because you are panicked to death that you're going to have your asses and empty-heads handed to you in November.

No, tedious gasbag, we are aware of the math.  Despite fundraising, you should take the Senate and you should retain the House.  The bar's not very high; the reality is, though, that your candidates leave a lot to be desired.

[NowhereInTime]

Not even a good try.  I doubt even one person out there thinks that.  Not one Lib, not one 'Progressive', not one Leftist ever mistakenly voted for a candidate claiming to be a 'conservative' because they confused 'conservative' with 'conservation'. 

Probably a few non-doctrinaire Libs have voted for someone because they claimed they were a 'fiscal' conservative.  I remember even Nancy Pelosi used to call herself a 'fiscal' conservative.

Most of the country thinks Conservatives are better at handling the economy and are better at handling foreign affairs, and they are right.

By most, you mean, at best, 41%:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/162746/fewer-americans-identify-economic-conservatives-2013.aspx

And fewer still are identifying as conservative:

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2014/01/10/Poll-Gap-closing-between-conservative-liberal-identifiers/UPI-26811389375231/

Tough to claim majorities when you're barely even 40% in any given poll (not conducted by Breitbart, CATO, or AEI, that is...).

[albrecht]

By most, you mean, at best, 41%:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/162746/fewer-americans-identify-economic-conservatives-2013.aspx

And fewer still are identifying as conservative:

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2014/01/10/Poll-Gap-closing-between-conservative-liberal-identifiers/UPI-26811389375231/

Tough to claim majorities when you're barely even 40% in any given poll (not conducted by Breitbart, CATO, or AEI, that is...).

By the same account though if polled, well even forget polls but look at actual votes and referendums, people are more likely to be against Obama's main pet agenda on things like homosexual "marriage" and an wide open-border. Strangely even states with a large Hispanic population voted to ban homosexual "marriage." Or taxes (though admittedly California is suffering for that one. Because it is hard to keep up a wild spending policy with a limited property tax base.) Luckily for Obama he has the Courts and Executive Actions to deal with these pesky people or democracy. Though the Courts have cut him down on some of his key agendas like guns and recess appointments. I still don't like the judicial tyranny we have going here though. Jackson and Jefferson were right on that.

[NowhereInTime]

Let's be clear.

Oh, goody!  Love when he does this!

Obama is exactly the wrong person to be President

Come to this conclusion after hours of careful consideration or when his black ass popped up on your tv screen?

... at this time in our nations history (to be sure, there never is a good time for someone like this)

Well, not for hate filled, selfish grubs, no, it wouldn't be.

A Moslem, or a Moslem sympathizer, a friend to the Terrorist Moslem Brotherhood, to their creation Hamas, and to the Hamas front group known as CAIR.

Lie #1.

A Marxist - exactly the wrong person to address our economy after the 2008 meltdown

Oh, you mean the guy who bailed out the banks?  GM?  Put a hold on auto-pen foreclosures? Pushed through a stimulus that has now been statistically shown to have stopped the economic bleeding?  Appointed Geithner to Treasury who created the bank stress test which restored faith in our banking system?
Funny kind of Marxist...
Lie #2.

A hater with the Black Liberation theology chip on his shoulder

Not even a shred of evidence to support this claim.
Lie #3.

- these Leftists have done much damage to race relations.  There is never a good time for these shit stirrers.

Right.  Civil Rights Act. Voting Rights Act. Affirmative Action.  Even "My Brother's Keeper", a primarily private program, all designed to help disenfranchised minority Americans.
Because you guys offered....?
Lie #4.

Inexperienced, incompetent,

Unlike John McCain, who never saw a war he didn't like and had not a clue as to how the financial crisis occurred.  Would've been tops!  Or toppled over...
Lie #5.

... steeped in Marxist ideology and Alinsky hate for the country - he has inflicted much damage.

Like what?  Just saying it doesn't make it so.
Lie #6.

And it's that intentional damage, manifest by the various scandals, for which he should be Impeached.

To sum up your case:
1) Black.  2) Liberal.  3) Alinsky 4) Damage.
Forgo the impeachment, get the whippin' post!

But, with 'Dingy Harry' Reid leading the Senate (actually, treating the Senate as if it were part of the Executive Branch), and too many Democrat Senators who have swallowed the Obama cool-aide, there is no chance of a Conviction in the Senate.

Even if you win the Senate in November, which by margin you should, but the races aren't looking so grand right now...

The Democrat Party has been infiltrated and taken over by the hard Left.  It's gone as an acceptable party to govern this country

Riiiiiiight.  Because the foam mouthed fear mongers who've hijacked Congress have "got this", don't they?

What Boehner should be doing is to use his Constitutional Power of the Purse,

well, see now, it ain't "his" Constitutional Power

... and cut off funds - for the illegal 'czars', for certain offices in the IRS, for certain activity at Justice and at the EPA and, frankly, for certain activity at the White House.  And for ObamaCare, and for anything that undercuts our allies.  And that's the short list.

The longer list includes cutting money for PBS because Big Bird is a pinko faggot.

But he won't do it.

Because "he" can't:

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/uscongress/a/speaker.htm

(funny thing; I never knew the Speaker of the House did not have to be an elected member! Could you imagine?)

Because these phony Republican 'leaders' are incompetent, are cowards, work for the Chamber of Crony Capitalism instead of the people who elected them.  They are climbers, not leaders.

That and they realize even in gerrymandered districts they can lose if all they do is dick around for two years.

And in order to cut off funds and fight, they needed to have been making the case all along - all these years.  It isn't good politics and it isn't going to work unless the groundwork has been laid, and they haven't done it.  It can't just come out of the blue like last October.

Well, that, and "less taxes, smaller government' isn't the cure-all you snake-oil salesmen have been promising.

Wow!  At least a 6 lie whopper by my boy Papes!  Good Lord!  M'man has some whiskey a go-going today, doesn't he?

Keep cranking 'em, babe.

[PB the Deplorable]

... Funny kind of Marxist
Lie #2...

... Not even a shred of evidence to support this claim.
Lie #3...

What do you think that putrid 'church' he attended was about, if not racist Marxist Black Liberation Theology? 

Not a Marxist?:  you're just the sort of tool he's cultivated.  He's made a career out of hiding who he is and operating behind the scenes.  Check the Marxist credentials of the real president, Valerie Jarrett.

... well, see now, it ain't "his" Constitutional Power...

Actually, it is.  All tax and spending bill must originate in the House of Representatives.  Boehner is Speaker, appoints committee members, and decides what bills are brought up for a vote

... (funny thing; I never knew the Speaker of the House did not have to be an elected member! Could you imagine?)...

There is much you are ignorant of, Weedhopper

[Quick Karl]

So Sarah Palin is a moron?

On this issue - yes.

[onan]

On this issue - yes.

And she must be a democrat as well.

And what about Issa, Burgess, Kyl, Inohofe, Coburn, Farenthold, and Bentivolio?

[albrecht]

And she must be a democrat as well.

And what about Issa, Burgess, Kyl, Inohofe, Coburn, Farenthold, and Bentivolio?

As I've mentioned before, certainly this character Obama should be impeached if we lived in a country ruled by law, or even basic morality, that held politicians to account.  As with several other presidents in the past, though not for as many reasons- though still valid- as this character. But impeachment is a very political procedure and not likely successful, which is why Obama adherents are pushing for it. So, sure, in theory he should be impeached. And so some people call for it, but  it is a dumb move in a two-party system and a media that supports him. Though cynical it is better to let him to continue to destroy, sorry, "fundamentally transform", and hope, somehow that future votes on a local, state, and federal level with work it out.

[Quick Karl]

As I've mentioned before, certainly this character Obama should be impeached if we lived in a country ruled by law, or even basic morality, that held politicians to account.  As with several other presidents in the past, though not for as many reasons- though still valid- as this character. But impeachment is a very political procedure and not likely successful, which is why Obama adherents are pushing for it. So, sure, in theory he should be impeached. And so some people call for it, but  it is a dumb move in a two-party system and a media that supports him. Though cynical it is better to let him to continue to destroy, sorry, "fundamentally transform", and hope, somehow that future votes on a local, state, and federal level with work it out.

Onan, read this - get a tutor if you need to.

[DigitalPigSnuggler]

Onan, read this - get a tutor if you need to.

Said the self-confessed liar, and kiddie twiddler.

[albrecht]

Said the self-confessed liar, and kiddie twiddler.

I know, or at least it seems, there is much personal and other issues going on here. Much of which I have no idea of the history or personal nature thereof. But I do wonder why things leftists traditionally support, or at least wink and nod at, are used so often as objects of insult or derision. Isn't "alternative", differences on the sexual spectrum, and homosexual stuff what we are constantly told by you lot as a good thing? So why use legitimate stuff (at least in your world) a form of insult? That seems odd. I guess easy to get a response, troll, etc. But doesn't that damage the campaign and make the homosexual and pedo stuff less mainstream? No learning from the BBC and the Savile stuff yet? Not to mention the other stuff that came out (hint even Tories!) Or all the stuff here. Do you not consider you might be damaging the brand or "lifestyles" by using as insults?

[DigitalPigSnuggler]

I know, or at least it seems, there is much personal and other issues going on here. Much of which I have no idea of the history or personal nature thereof. But I do wonder why things leftists traditionally support, or at least wink and nod at, are used so often as objects of insult or derision. Isn't "alternative", differences on the sexual spectrum, and homosexual stuff what we are constantly told by you lot as a good thing? So why use legitimate stuff (at least in your world) a form of insult? That seems odd. I guess easy to get a response, troll, etc. But doesn't that damage the campaign and make the homosexual and pedo stuff less mainstream? No learning from the BBC and the Savile stuff yet? Not to mention the other stuff that came out (hint even Tories!) Or all the stuff here. Do you not consider you might be damaging the brand or "lifestyles" by using as insults?

Karl lied when he started that thread about Pelosi.  It was a stupid and unnecessary lie.  But caught in that lie, not only didn't he express any shame or remorse, he actually revels in it.  He's proud of having lied because he feels that it was in the service of doing damage to Pelosi.

And do you want to know the really telling part?  Other inbred right-wing watermelon-rapers like PB and yourself don't even fuckin care.  If a "lib" lies about something, you bozos are on it like a cheap suit.  But if one of you lies, well, that's excusable.  It's in the service of the cause, don't-you-know.  In this case, you brushed aside the issue about Karl telling a brazen, shameless lie so that you could criticize me for name calling.  Does Karl engage in name calling?  Yes, of course, but it's excused because....

I wish you could have 30 seconds of clarity to realize that this is why normal people reject your political philosophy.  People don't like being lied to, and when you do it deliberately, without remorse, to further your own perverted beliefs, they tend to think of you as sleazy untrustworthy dick-huggers who are not fit to run the country.  It's a matter of morality and ethics.  There should be something about that in your handbook, look it up.

[onan]

Onan, read this - get a tutor if you need to.

Who helped you spell tutor?

[Quick Karl]

Who helped you spell tutor?

Is that all you got?

[Yorkshire pud]

Is that all you got?

Fucking hell; a dangling bogey is better than anything you've ever put forward as meaningful. If they could store irrational and barely contained rage and turn it into electricity, you'd solve the planet's energy crises for decades.

[Quick Karl]

Fucking hell; a dangling bogey is better than anything you've ever put forward as meaningful.

Yet you are incapable of tearing yourself away from, or endeavoring, inadequately, to defeat anything I post, and resort relentlessly to juvenile bloviating...

[DigitalPigSnuggler]

juvenile bloviating...

Just can't stop with the kiddie sex references, can you?

[Yorkshire pud]

Yet you are incapable of tearing yourself away from, or endeavoring, inadequately, to defeat anything I post, and resort relentlessly to juvenile bloviating...

You're a sad little man, whose only claim to any non accomplishment is not killing a coyote with a clean shot, and backtracking on your promotion of the American spring that never was. Anything I ever do to you is the same as poking a stick at a dead mouse. It's okay for casual amusement, but won't bring it back to life.

[WOTR]

The only people talking impeachment are morons like you and the frauds you support, because you are panicked to death that you're going to have your asses and empty-heads handed to you in November.

Curiosity strikes...  What happens if you get Democrats by a wide margin for the next couple of elections?  aside from being extremely angry and shouting that non-Americans are now in charge and saying that voters made a mistake, how do you deal with it?  (Not saying that I believe that will happen- just curious "what if.")

[albrecht]

Curiosity strikes...  What happens if you get Democrats by a wide margin for the next couple of elections?  aside from being extremely angry and shouting that non-Americans are now in charge and saying that voters made a mistake, how do you deal with it?  (Not saying that I believe that will happen- just curious "what if.")

It has happened before, I doubt it will happen this next cycle but anything is possible especially Republicans (well, some of them) going along the impeachment route or going along with the illegal alien amnesty stuff. But assuredly it will happen at some point. And then likely swing back around. Until recently we've usually come to a more middle-of-the-road, pro-corporate middle-ground with outliers on the fringe though who knows what millions of uneducated, exploitable, and illiterate immigrants will do long term to the voting.

It is interesting that now Obama supports charter schools. I wonder the NEA and the teacher groups will make a statement on this? Or maybe push for impeachment? And why no Obamaphones for the illegals but only a land-line?
http://www.krgv.com/news/immigrants-to-be-housed-in-suites-near-san-antonio/
"The feds said the immigrants will be referred to as "residents" and the rooms as "suites." The suites are furnished with flat-screen television sets and landline telephones. The center has a soccer field covered with artificial turf, ping pong tables and a weight room. A charter school nearby will provide schooling and access to a library for the immigrant children."

[Mind Flayer Monk]

Is anyone donating any money to this?
I get about 3 emails a day asking me to donate to impeach Obama or give money for the new lawsuit.

[Quick Karl]

Is anyone donating any money to this?
I get about 3 emails a day asking me to donate to impeach Obama or give money for the new lawsuit.

They day I donate money to a political machine, will never come.

[Quick Karl]

Curiosity strikes...  What happens if you get Democrats by a wide margin for the next couple of elections?  aside from being extremely angry and shouting that non-Americans are now in charge and saying that voters made a mistake, how do you deal with it?  (Not saying that I believe that will happen- just curious "what if.")

Presuming that we had truly fair elections in this country, I would be angry at people that say they believe in The Constitution, but stayed home and didn't vote.

Lots of people stayed home and didn't vote for Richey Rich, because he is a Mormon - they would have done the country a greater service by shooting themselves on the face with a large caliber handgun.

People voting for stupid reasons has, and is, the downfall of a country that provided more freedom and opportunity for people than any other country that has ever existed.

Now we have a country in which people vote based on an Avatar in an internet discussion forum...

[NowhereInTime]

They day I donate money to a political machine try to pleasure an adult woman, (she) will never come.

Fixed it for ya!