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Started by awake, July 09, 2014, 08:49:43 AM

awake

When I signed up on this site in 2012 the site was about C2C.  While politics was part of the discussion it wasn't a part of every discussion .  The number of wingnuts and moonbats were about equal and they not pervade all areas of the site.

All that has changed and this site is now largely, in my opinion, a right-wing echo chamber of nonsense in each and every thread.  I want no part of it and asked MV to remove my account.  I use the awake moniker on other sites and I simply don't want it here any longer so I asked MV to delete my account.  I think I was polite about it and I don't think it would take more than a few minutes of his time but so far I've been rudely rebuffed.
One receipt of my first request his response was "later".
I sent another note attempting to again ask to simply have my account deleted and the reply from MV was "go fuck yourself".

So what does it take to disassociate ones self from a site that was once enjoyable but has since metastasized into something you find repellent?

I could make enough rude posts to get myself banned but then I'd be a part of the problem.  So I'm asking, how do I get my account name off of the roles here?  It's such a small request that I'm baffled by MV's rudeness.  I don't "own" the name Awake of course but it is something I use often. 

I don't know if what I'm requesting is some kind of internet faux pas or if I've broken some other taboo but this seems like maybe three mouse clicks and done.  I hope I guess that MV is embarrassed enough by this post to grant my request.  I supposed his other option would be to delete my post and then I'll have choice but to get banned purposely but I'm hoping it doesn't come to that.

GNS



albrecht

Quote from: awake on July 09, 2014, 08:49:43 AM
When I signed up on this site in 2012 the site was about C2C.  While politics was part of the discussion it wasn't a part of every discussion .  The number of wingnuts and moonbats were about equal and they not pervade all areas of the site.

All that has changed and this site is now largely, in my opinion, a right-wing echo chamber of nonsense in each and every thread.  I want no part of it and asked MV to remove my account.  I use the awake moniker on other sites and I simply don't want it here any longer so I asked MV to delete my account.  I think I was polite about it and I don't think it would take more than a few minutes of his time but so far I've been rudely rebuffed.
One receipt of my first request his response was "later".
I sent another note attempting to again ask to simply have my account deleted and the reply from MV was "go fuck yourself".

So what does it take to disassociate ones self from a site that was once enjoyable but has since metastasized into something you find repellent?

I could make enough rude posts to get myself banned but then I'd be a part of the problem.  So I'm asking, how do I get my account name off of the roles here?  It's such a small request that I'm baffled by MV's rudeness.  I don't "own" the name Awake of course but it is something I use often. 

I don't know if what I'm requesting is some kind of internet faux pas or if I've broken some other taboo but this seems like maybe three mouse clicks and done.  I hope I guess that MV is embarrassed enough by this post to grant my request.  I supposed his other option would be to delete my post and then I'll have choice but to get banned purposely but I'm hoping it doesn't come to that.

GNS
I don't know, never tried. But, I guess, you cannot delete your account in your settings? What about simply just not logging-in anymore, not visiting the site, and letting your posts just get far down in the past threads and naturally archive themselves. These days with waybackmachine, internet archives, and NSA data-mining/retention nothing you post on the web will "go away" anyway (unless you are in Europe where, possibly, you might have the new right to have your stuff deleted.) So just stop contributing or checking your messages and it will effectively die off?

Bart Ell

Dear Internet,

Please delete the video of me stepping on the rake, knocking myself out and falling, semi-erect, into my cousin Susan. I know you will understand that I do not want this videos associated with me or my soon to be born second cousin / daughter.

Thanks for understanding.

awake

I have done exactly as you suggest.  What I am looking to accomplish at this point is simply to have my "Awake" name removed from the members list. 


There is no way that I know of to self-delete my account.  If there is such a mechanism I'd love to know about it.


Thanks for taking the time to reply, I wasn't certain if I'd been clear of what I am asking for and why.  I'm not an active poster any longer and what I am asking to happen is for MV to excise my name from the members list.


Thanks for the question.

awake

Quote from: Bart Ell on July 09, 2014, 09:14:06 AM
Dear Internet,

Please delete the video of me stepping on the rake, knocking myself out and falling, semi-erect, into my cousin Susan. I know you will understand that I do not want this videos associated with me or my soon to be born second cousin / daughter.

Thanks for understanding.
Thanks for contributing exactly nothing to the topic of the thread.  You're a comedic genius, I have no idea why you are not famous.

Bart Ell

Dear Internet,

I am posting now to tell everyone I do not post anymore. Since nobody seemed to miss when I left quietly I have decided to come back to make sure they knew that I was gone.

So here it is , Internet, I am taking my ball and going home. Please delete this name from here because I DO NOT want my new friends at dwarfystyle.com to associate this site with me

awake

So to be clear.  I made this request repeatedly to MV using PM.  The response was to "fuck off".  Posting about this topic is about the only option available at this point.  Thank you for the opportunity to clarify, again, that point. 

Bart Ell

Quote from: awake on July 09, 2014, 09:25:22 AM
So to be clear.  I made this request repeatedly to MV using PM.  The response was to "fuck off".

When I asked him he told me to kill myself. True story.
Maybe he mixed up our answers?

Bart Ell

Dear Internet,

I have asked before and I am asking again - please delete me. Can't you understand how important I am and how many people will look my very unique name up and then use this site against me?

Thanks and have a beautiful day!

onan

We have all awakened to find last night's excitement changed into today's disappointment. Usually, time is the best buffer. Most of us won't stalk you. In your golden years this may well be a fond memory... Or not.

Sign up rules are quite clear, no deletion of accounts.

I always liked your posts.


awake

Quote from: b_dubb on July 09, 2014, 09:37:32 AM
Do you hold the exclusive trademark on awake?  I don't see a TM anywere.

http://bellgab.com/index.php/topic,3031.msg62364.html#msg62364


Thank you; of course you are correct.  And as I stated in my original post "I don't "own" the name Awake of course but it is something I use often.  ".
I was requesting a favor of a sort from MV.  I'd been a member for a few years and thought it not much of an inconvenience.  It isn't something owed to me in any way.  If MV had done the civil thing, as Onan has, and pointed me to a section of the rules which precludes the deletion of accounts I would have understood.  Rather than do the courtesy of that though MV chose to reply with "later" and then "go fuck yourself".  Those responses are themselves indicative of what this site has become and what I want no part of it.


Onan, Thank you!  I see you as sort of a Sisyphus character endlessly arguing for rationality.  Your posts are excellent and I'm glad you fight the good fight.  I'm just done fighting.  Thank you also for pointing out that the deletion of accounts is against the rules.  I was not aware of that and I'm glad to have that knowledge.  MV, if you read this, I now understand.  If you'd simply pointed me toward that rule rather than being, well....you, I'd have understood. 


I now understand that my membership is some sort of lifetime sentence and that is fine.  Thanks again, Onan, for pointing it out. 


Bart Ell, good luck with that stand up career.

paladin1991

Quote from: awake on July 09, 2014, 09:25:22 AM
So to be clear.  I made this request repeatedly to MV using PM.  The response was to "fuck off".  Posting about this topic is about the only option available at this point.  Thank you for the opportunity to clarify, again, that point.
It begs the question.  Did you 'fuck off'?

Kelt

There are a few  Right Wing Loons on this site, I've noticed, but that's the Right Wing for you. 

Regardless of site, this one or specifically Political boards, the loudest, most obnoxious, don't-want-to-assume-a-portion-of-the-blame cunts are the Right Wing Loons, you are correct.  And I say that as neither Left nor Right Wing by affiliation, this is an impartial observation.  I will say that there are occasionally Left Wing Loons, but these are much, much fewer, and much, much less vocal than their prolific Right Wing cousins.

Now, having said that, if you want to stop posting here then just delete the link in your bookmarks and stop posting here.

There are numerous other political  boards you could post on, although you will always encounter the same problem, a surplus of noisy, obnoxious Right Wingers who want to blame the Left for everything from Bush invading Iraq to the weather outside.

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: awake on July 09, 2014, 08:49:43 AM
I sent another note attempting to again ask to simply have my account deleted and the reply from MV was "go fuck yourself".

post your entire message that prompted the "go fuck yourself" reply, you noxious cunt bag.

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: awake on June 25, 2014, 07:53:24 AM
MV,
Thanks for putting together this site.  I remember I found it simply by doing a Google search for something like "I hate george noory" or something like that about two years ago.  I was so happy to realize that I was not the only person who thought noory was simply terrible at his job.  To find a community of people who liked the topics but disliked the host was gratifying. 


That site from two years ago doesn't feel like the site now.  Please delete my account. 


Thanks again for the years of fun and best wishes to you in all of of your endeavors. 

Quote from: MV on June 25, 2014, 08:22:39 AM
Later.

Quote from: awake on July 01, 2014, 07:48:02 AM
Just remove the name.  I think I've been more than polite.  Your refusal to simply comply seems just petty.  I use the Awake moniker elsewhere and I do not want it associated with a right winger site.  It's a request that should require less than a minute of your time.  I've been a member since 2012, can you grant me this request?

Quote from: MV on July 01, 2014, 09:57:25 AM
go fuck yourself.

Bart Ell

Quote from: MV on July 09, 2014, 10:09:18 AM
you noxious cunt bag.

Is that a bag made out of cunts?
A bag that holds cunts?
Or a bag shaped like a cunt, therefore it has the name "cunt bag" due to it looking cuntish?

MV/Liberace!

Quote
Your refusal to simply comply seems just petty.  I use the Awake moniker elsewhere and I do not want it associated with a right winger site.

btw... this was the specific line that prompted my "go fuck yourself" response.  do you not hear yourself?  do you not know how petty YOU sound?  pot, meet kettle.  you only want to surround yourself with people who agree with you?  i fucking hate people who think like that, so yeah, go die in a bath tub.  you are the definition of petty.  "oooh, there are people here who don't hold my political views, so therefore, this is a 'right wing website' and oh, delete my account please.  huff huff!!"  do you know how many times people have sent me messages complaining that this is a left wing website?  do you know how many people there are here who probably would call themselves liberals?  no, you apparently don't, because the only thing your simple little mind can focus on are the people who don't validate your world view.  yes, go fuck yourself.  now.  today.  run.  fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck yourself and then die.  you are a closed minded group thinking shit stain for whom i have no patience.  oh, and if you get banned, your posts will remain.  you just won't be able to send me your cunty missives any longer.

so, again, to be clear, fuck off and kill yourself.  you are a passive aggressive fuck wadd who should crash into a bridge abutment.

thank you.


The General

ha ha
MV, are you saying that awake should go fuck him/herself?
I'm just not clear on what your opinion is.

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: The General on July 09, 2014, 10:38:56 AM
ha ha
MV, are you saying that awake should go fuck him/herself?
I'm just not clear on what your opinion is.

i said nothing of the kind, sir, and i'll ask that you not put words in my mouth.

cweb

I just love the assumption that someone would think they'd be able to "get out of" this site by asking everyone else after the guy that RUNS the thing refused.

What kind of high and mighty shit...? Like you're going to be some noted (presumably "Left-wing") political pundit whose career will be derailed because Fox News digs up your membership to such a "Right-wing" joint as this.

Or you're simply trying to be an attention whore and call MV a dick.

To quote Hotel California: "You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave." *guitar solo*

Or perhaps Awake thought some techie here could suggest a hassle-free way to terminate one's account?  I think most if us here are concerned about, for instance, Google's in-perpetuity hold on every search request we have ever done (dwarf porn beastiality?).

Agreed, it is easier to just disappear, a la Sardondi, Ben Shockley, et al, but to some, leaving an internet trail of bread crumbs produces a feeling of vulnerability perhaps.

Kelt


MV/Liberace!

Quote from: West of the Rockies on July 09, 2014, 11:06:53 AM
Or perhaps Awake thought some techie here could suggest a hassle-free way to terminate one's account?  I think most if us here are concerned about, for instance, Google's in-perpetuity hold on every search request we have ever done (dwarf porn beastiality?).

Agreed, it is easier to just disappear, a la Sardondi, Ben Shockley, et al, but to some, leaving an internet trail of bread crumbs produces a feeling of vulnerability perhaps.

perhaps, but in this case, i think it's just someone who is angry that there are differing views here.  i have nothing but contempt for people who are only willing to surround themselves with those who agree with them and who continually validate their unchallenged political views.  how boring.

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: Bart Ell on July 09, 2014, 09:22:26 AM
Dear Internet,
Since nobody seemed to miss when I left quietly I have decided to come back to make sure they knew that I was gone.

oh, and this.

wr250

Quote from: MV on July 09, 2014, 10:21:27 AM
btw... this was the specific line that prompted my "go fuck yourself" response.  do you not hear yourself?  do you not know how petty YOU sound?  pot, meet kettle.  you only want to surround yourself with people who agree with you?  i fucking hate people who think like that, so yeah, go die in a bath tub.  you are the definition of petty.  "oooh, there are people here who don't hold my political views, so therefore, this is a 'right wing website' and oh, delete my account please.  huff huff!!"  do you know how many times people have sent me messages complaining that this is a left wing website?  do you know how many people there are here who probably would call themselves liberals?  no, you apparently don't, because the only thing your simple little mind can focus on are the people who don't validate your world view.  yes, go fuck yourself.  now.  today.  run.  fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck yourself and then die.  you are a closed minded group thinking shit stain for whom i have no patience.  oh, and if you get banned, your posts will remain.  you just won't be able to send me your cunty missives any longer.

so, again, to be clear, fuck off and kill yourself.  you are a passive aggressive fuck wadd who should crash into a bridge abutment.

thank you.

dont hold back, please tell us how you really feel.

My beef with the political threads is that someone offers an honest observation. Let's assume that observation is not utterly stupid or insulting.  Things break down pretty fast:

Poster A:  I think John McCain made an error in making Sarah Palin his running mate in '08.

Poster B:  No, Palin is Einstein-brilliant!

Poster A:  No, she is a ninny.

Poster B:  You are a pedophile fag who sucks dog cock!

Or, the threads seem to go like this:

Random Poster:  It is crystal clear that Rand Paul is an ostrich who is bent on destroying the country with blue Cornish Pixies!

Response:  WTF?

Seriously, I know this is an Internet forum and not an Ivy League debate society, but I see damn little basic civility, intellectual openness, self-examination.

And so frigging many non-political threads are babble:  OMG, the number six is evil!  Hey, aren't fat chicks gross?  You gotta love nose hair!

Still, I come back because if you sift through the rubble, there are some hilarious and brilliant people here.  At what point though is there too much slogging through shit to find gems?

I genuinely don't envy you, MV, trying to manage this site.  I wish more people followed Wil Wheaton's rule:  Don't be a dick.

wr250

Quote from: West of the Rockies on July 09, 2014, 11:45:00 AM
I genuinely don't envy you, MV, trying to manage this site.  I wish more people followed Wil Wheaton's rule:  Don't be a dick noory.

GNS

WOTR

Quote from: MV on July 09, 2014, 11:18:32 AM
perhaps, but in this case, i think it's just someone who is angry that there are differing views here.  i have nothing but contempt for people who are only willing to surround themselves with those who agree with them and who continually validate their unchallenged political views.  how boring.
But that is the history of humanity- and the internet only makes it worse.  A century back people had to learn to live with others whose views they found repulsive because there were a limited number of neighbours on the farm or 30 people in the town.  With urbanization it became infanetly easier to seek out and narrow down social contacts. 

As an example- look at churches that keep splitting on minor theological differences.  In a small town that could not happen.  With the internet it becomes even more exaggerated as forums spring up to support every fascet of one's preference.  I once stumbled across a christian pipe smokers forum... Yes, because christians who smoke pipes must isolate themselves from those who do not.

I think you used to have knitting clubs for people knitting everything from socks to sweaters.  I am certain if I really tried I could find an internet forum dedicated to those who believe that only socks should be crafted (and then only in the colour red and only in acrylic yarn...)  I can see what proceeded the last split would be half of the posters saying that wool was a superior insulator and the other half getting angry and touting the benefits of acrylic... Suddenly neither side can stand the other.  The internet has made it possible to search out those who do not challenge our beliefs- and most people happily take advantage of it.

Even worse is that search engines now tailor your requests to what it thinks you may like.  Liberals will get fed liberal sites and news stories to support their world view- Conservatives will be fed conservative affirming news.  It is a stupid cycle (thanks Google) and one of the things I specifically enjoy about this site.  I have said it before- when a hatred or dislike of a host who ruined a great show is the only common thread that binds a group it makes for an interesting and varied experience interacting with people who you otherwise might not.

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