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Crime mysteries that haunt us

Started by yumyumtree, July 07, 2014, 02:21:37 PM

yumyumtree

I'm a true crime buff, and over the years, there are four unsolved cases, all involving women and girls, that I find most intriguing. I will elaborate on them after a few if you have offered your responses.

1. Elizabeth Short, the Black Dahlia

2. JonBenet Ramsey

3. Amy Billig

4. "Mary Anderson", the woman in the Vantage Park Hotel.

And wouldn't it be great if a weekend Coast to Coast host would have Paulides or someone like him, discuss these cases as well as some other enduring mysteries? I'm thinking of some of those that are less well known. I don't know how well known the Mary Anderson case is outside of the Seattle area.

I suppose I could also add Teekah Lewis, another case that probably didnt get a lot of attention outside of the Puget Sound area.


The list of people who disappeared always good for this lonely dark hours of the night after a coffee binge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_disappeared_mysteriously

But the list of ghost /empty ships always creeps me out even more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_ship

yumyumtree

Thanks, I'll look at those.
It occurs to me that Mary Anderson is not technically a crime case, since hiding your identity and commiting suicide are t actually crimes. But my theory is that there may have been crimes in her past that led up to her death.

albrecht

I won't say all are haunting me but interest me some are conspiracy sorta and some weird. Won't mention Dr.David Kelly because everyone knows that mysterious case.

1) Jonathan Luna (suicide with 36 stabs by penknife)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Luna
http://www.yardbird.com/luna.htm

2) John Parsons Wheeler, III (bizarre footage and then found in dumpster)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_P._Wheeler_III

3) Ray Gricar (again a Penn case with implication on Sandusky stuff)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Gricar
http://www.yardbird.com/a_town_gone_bad.htm

4) Taman Shud case (an unidentified man with a piece of paper of the Rubaiyat in his pocket)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taman_Shud_Case

5) D.B. Cooper
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Airlines_Flight_305

6) Harry Holt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Holt#Disappearance

7) Mary Celeste
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Celeste

yumyumtree

I should have added DB Cooper to my list. I think there's about a 99% chance that he died that night, though. I think that kid finding part of the money in 1980 strongly suggests that too.
But just as with Mary Anderson, it's curious that no one, a wife, for example reported anybody fitting that description missing. I think that one or a few people close to him were in on the scheme, and the plan was that if it didnt work, they would suck it up and keep quiet.

In Oct. 1996, a middle -aged woman checked into the  Hotel Vantage Park, across the street from what is now the flashy, Rem Koolhaus-designed Seattle Public Library. She claimed to be named Mary Anderson, residing in NYC. These were both lies. Two days later she was found dead on the bed from cyanide poisoning. There was a brief suicide note and the Gideon Bible marked with a pressed maple leaf to the 23rd Psalm. She had managed to prevent anyone from learning her real identity and was finally buried in a cemetary in the Ballard neighborhood. Why did she not match any missing persons reports? I have some theories.

albrecht

Quote from: yumyumtree on July 08, 2014, 12:23:21 AM
I should have added DB Cooper to my list. I think there's about a 99% chance that he died that night, though. I think that kid finding part of the money in 1980 strongly suggests that too.
But just as with Mary Anderson, it's curious that no one, a wife, for example reported anybody fitting that description missing. I think that one or a few people close to him were in on the scheme, and the plan was that if it didnt work, they would suck it up and keep quiet.

In Oct. 1996, a middle -aged woman checked into the  Hotel Vantage Park, across the street from what is now the flashy, Rem Koolhaus-designed Seattle Public Library. She claimed to be named Mary Anderson, residing in NYC. These were both lies. Two days later she was found dead on the bed from cyanide poisoning. There was a brief suicide note and the Gideon Bible marked with a pressed maple leaf to the 23rd Psalm. She had managed to prevent anyone from learning her real identity and was finally buried in a cemetary in the Ballard neighborhood. Why did she not match any missing persons reports? I have some theories.
Yeah, the "Mary Anderson" case is very bizarre. I tend to like the odd cases of bizarre "suicides" or disappearances of fairly high-profile people with government, political, and defense industry ties as I mentioned in my reply because there seems to be "more" there and more interests who might have wanted the "suicide."

kf5iwe

 The series finale of HIMYM. THOSE BASTARDS

yumyumtree

Quote from: albrecht on July 07, 2014, 03:49:54 PM
I won't say all are haunting me but interest me some are conspiracy sorta and some weird. Won't mention Dr.David Kelly because everyone knows that mysterious case.

1) Jonathan Luna (suicide with 36 stabs by penknife)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Luna
http://www.yardbird.com/luna.htm

2) John Parsons Wheeler, III (bizarre footage and then found in dumpster)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_P._Wheeler_III

3) Ray Gricar (again a Penn case with implication on Sandusky stuff)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Gricar
http://www.yardbird.com/a_town_gone_bad.htm

4) Taman Shud case (an unidentified man with a piece of paper of the Rubaiyat in his pocket)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taman_Shud_Case

5) D.B. Cooper
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Airlines_Flight_305

6) Harry Holt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Holt#Disappearance

7) Mary Celeste
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Celeste


I finally had a chance to read these these. Thank you.

Starr Faithfull is another interesting case. She was actually the inspiration for the John O'Hara story "Butterfield 8", which in turn was the basis for the 1960 movie with Elizabeth Taylor. But the movie changed her manner of death so as to make it clear it was accidental. This was probably one of the first movie in which child sexual abuse was openly discussed.

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