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I'm honestly not sure what your small graphic represents... a computer-generated simulation of what transpired? Why not just provide photos of the targets?

I posted to a thread a couple of years ago, showing the various iterations of a 10-shot grouping, but used photographs - clicking on the photos gives one a larger view.

http://bellgab.com/index.php?topic=3444.msg80302#msg80302

Off-topic I know, so won't pollute again here.
Holy Crap!  HAL 9000's back!  (Please don't trace my IP address... I swear I'll be a good boy...)  ;)

I wonder if anyone has tried to use ebola by infecting someone and buying them a ticket to any metropolitan area.
Just jump on the return boat trip run by the cartels who funnel drugs to Europe via Africa. Then walk across our open border, or better yet walk across and ask Obama to have a "dreamer" status. Then infect all the people you wish and do it on the government dime wile you and your infected brood are getting free schooling, housing, and food.

Just jump on the return boat trip run by the cartels who funnel drugs to Europe via Africa. Then walk across our open border, or better yet walk across and ask Obama to have a "dreamer" status. Then infect all the people you wish and do it on the government dime wile you and your infected brood are getting free schooling, housing, and food.
While you're at it, ask the Oneida, the Cayuga, the Shinnecock, the Mohegan, the Powhatan, the Iroquois, the Cherokee (and so many other people) about their opinion of those "dreamers" that showed up in the Mayflower or from the Virginia Company of London(under Charter from King James).
I bet it mirrors yours.


While you're at it, ask the Oneida, the Cayuga, the Shinnecock, the Mohegan, the Powhatan, the Iroquois, the Cherokee (and so many other people) about their opinion of those "dreamers" that showed up in the Mayflower or from the Virginia Company of London(under Charter from King James).
I bet it mirrors yours.
Sure, I understand. Everyone, or people, have had wars, battles, ethnic conflicts, etc. The Indians lost. Got it. We treated them badly. Of course, they also treated each other fairly badly and as soon as one tribe could gain access to technology or improvements in organization the first thing they did was fight or take over another. What does this have to do with the current invasion and spread of disease? Except that, I guess, Obama and folks like you want "revenge" on the USA, and Western Civilization, and that is why you lot enjoy the crime, violence, and diseases spread by immigrants and support the open-border? If the USA, Western culture, or just plain old white people are so bad why don't the Obama adherents (most of whom were white) move to Africa, South America, or Asia? If corruption and violence is so good, why not walk across the open-border and move to Mexico? How far does Obama's animus towards the country go? A new Plan of San Diego?


Sure, I understand. Everyone, or people, have had wars, battles, ethnic conflicts, etc. The Indians lost. Got it. We treated them badly. Of course, they also treated each other fairly badly and as soon as one tribe could gain access to technology or improvements in organization the first thing they did was fight or take over another. What does this have to do with the current invasion and spread of disease? Except that, I guess, Obama and folks like you want "revenge" on the USA, and Western Civilization, and that is why you lot enjoy the crime, violence, and diseases spread by immigrants and support the open-border? If the USA, Western culture, or just plain old white people are so bad why don't the Obama adherents (most of whom were white) move to Africa, South America, or Asia? If corruption and violence is so good, why not walk across the open-border and move to Mexico? How far does Obama's animus towards the country go? A new Plan of San Diego?
"Revenge"?  You are deluded.  I want you to recognize the hypocrisy of criticizing immigrants for bringing "disease" when that is precisely what my White Anglo Saxon Protestant forefathers did to the extant native population.
This rant about "corruption and violence" is so off the mark as to be laughable.  Are you referring to the border scuffles where anti-immigrant (mostly white) activists are trying to Tiananmen Square buses carrying children from the Texas border to holding areas in Arizona? Kind of revolting behavior, don't you think?
There is a flood of unescorted children trying to get here.  Should we honestly turn children away?
Leaving all that aside, how would you protect the border?  The fence doesn't work (except that some connected contractors made some money); Obama hired more INS/ICE agents than any President in history and they still can't cover the landscape (mostly because you hypocrite conservatives cut operational dollars) and even air patrols don't deter these people.
If you fucking cunts would stop dicking around with Immigration Reform we could have a lawful process in place to welcome people into this country, much as your forebears were welcomed, instead of this hopeless mess at the border.
Obama's animus toward the country?  How about yours?

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"Revenge"?  You are deluded.  I want you to recognize the hypocrisy of criticizing immigrants for bringing "disease" when that is precisely what my White Anglo Saxon Protestant forefathers did to the extant native population.
This rant about "corruption and violence" is so off the mark as to be laughable.  Are you referring to the border scuffles where anti-immigrant (mostly white) activists are trying to Tiananmen Square buses carrying children from the Texas border to holding areas in Arizona? Kind of revolting behavior, don't you think?
There is a flood of unescorted children trying to get here.  Should we honestly turn children away?
Leaving all that aside, how would you protect the border?  The fence doesn't work (except that some connected contractors made some money); Obama hired more INS/ICE agents than any President in history and they still can't cover the landscape (mostly because you hypocrite conservatives cut operational dollars) and even air patrols don't deter these people.
If you fucking cunts would stop dicking around with Immigration Reform we could have a lawful process in place to welcome people into this country, much as your forebears were welcomed, instead of this hopeless mess at the border.
Obama's animus toward the country?  How about yours?

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We could solve the immigration crisis very, very easily. Simply enforce strict sanctions (both civil and criminal) on any business or person who hires or helps an illegal. For every illegal we catch, or is in our prisons for all the other crimes they commit (everything from DUIs up to serial killings,) we charge their country of origin for the costs of deportation or containment. If they won't pay up we take that amount of $$ a way from our foreign aide to that country. Or seize the amount from assets of that country currently in our Reserve banks or private banks.

As far as Lazarus and her famous quote, she was far after the founding of the country and even in her time the immigrants were checked for diseases, paperwork, etc. Until the immigration reforms in 1965 the country had a more logical process for immigration intended to help the country; not to defeat it. But even then they didn't advocate the open-border policy.

Should we return children? Sure, why not? It is not our business to take care of other country's children. Their parents should do that. However, if you wish to help. You can send money, you can volunteer in those countries, or you can adopt legally a child from those poor countries. We have enough domestic problems and poverty to take care of.

Well at least the children weren't starved in their native countries and dumped into a septic tank for a grave...

What's the deal with all these kids parents?  These kids from other countries?  Didn't their parents have access to birth control/abortions?  As a citizen of my country I ask why are these kids, these thousands upon thousands of kids suddenly my problem?  And their irresponsible parents, why didn't their irresponsible parents vote for birth control and abortions in their own country, and why are their parents very likely to follow the kids into my country?

Is that how the Irish potato famine played out for the US, kids first then parents?  Or whichever disaster/economic collapse that caused any of the other emigration/immigration 'problems' that the US saw in yesteryear?  Kids came first as refugees, then the extended families?

Seems like one of those green colored apples to oranges arguments to me...

But what do I know?  I need explanations and such

Well at least the children weren't starved in their native countries and dumped into a septic tank for a grave...

Unfortunately lots of them are. Although the females are usually used in prostitution first. I think by some estimates 100K killed over the past few years but nobody really knows as mass graves are found weekly if you listen to alternative Mexican news or some place like borderlandbeat, blog del narco, etc. Women especially are targeted (recall all the killings in Juarez area http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_homicides_in_Ciudad_Ju%C3%A1rez .) Now one of the big problems (besides the obvious disease and crimes) caused by Obama's open-border policy is that it is encouraging those from Central America (and elsewhere) to come over through Mexico or send their vulnerable children alone though Mexico. And Mexico doesn't care about them or investigate crimes against them. So really nobody knows how many children have been killed in Mexico that are OTM.

On the good side, if the idea is the balkanization or destruction of the USA is the goal, we are importing this misogynistic and violent criminal culture across our border.

If they won't pay up we take that amount of $$ a way from our foreign aide to that country. Or seize the amount from assets of that country currently in our Reserve banks or private banks.
I'm not going to bother with the rest of the post... but there is no way for this to work (possibly the "taking away foreign aide- but not seizing assets.)  I really hate to point it out- but the amount of cash that countries hold in US banks is tiny in comparison to the amount of US assets abroad.  You rely on those countries to protect copyright (to an extent) and produce everything you have, own or consume and are going to go to financial war with them because you found an illegal?

I suppose you could say that all of the treasury bonds they hold are suddenly worthless somehow... but the US is almost completely dependent on countries to buy their worthless paper... suddenly it becomes risky to do business and assets from all countries shift to an area where stability and law are respected.   

I think we are probably way too far apart on this to ever really see eye to eye.  Write your congressman and senator and ask for this to be enacted... I somehow think that world courts may laugh at the first cases brought before them...

I'm not going to bother with the rest of the post... but there is no way for this to work (possibly the "taking away foreign aide- but not seizing assets.)  I really hate to point it out- but the amount of cash that countries hold in US banks is tiny in comparison to the amount of US assets abroad.  You rely on those countries to protect copyright (to an extent) and produce everything you have, own or consume and are going to go to financial war with them because you found an illegal?

I suppose you could say that all of the treasury bonds they hold are suddenly worthless somehow... but the US is almost completely dependent on countries to buy their worthless paper... suddenly it becomes risky to do business and assets from all countries shift to an area where stability and law are respected.   

I think we are probably way too far apart on this to ever really see eye to eye.  Write your congressman and senator and ask for this to be enacted... I somehow think that world courts may laugh at the first cases brought before them...
The countries that hold our paper (and, let's face it, that is all it is) aren't the ones sending most of the illegals (at least in this current "dreamer" flood.) Guatemala is not a financial threat to the USA. Nor is Mexico, especially since they recently are privatizing the oil industry and "guess who" will be down there soon? And there are lots of assets in US banks and in US Reserve banks held by countries (or, more importantly, in the case of more corrupt nations by their leaders) which could be frozen, seized, etc to pay for the illegal repatriation.

Of course, I'm not advocating some financial currency war in general (though it is on-going at least in a sort of "cold war" proxy way.) And those countries, you claim, that protect our copyrights (yeah, right. Go to the internet or any market in an Asian or South American country or flea market in the USA or look at a blanket on Oxford Street in broad daylight in London) and "produce everything we have" could have more problems if the currency war got real. China has a lot of financial bubbles on the break and internal strife. And a very large population to feed. The USA would be pretty well off, especially with the new fracking and gas reserves. And we still can feed ourselves. Cut off the spending on the wars and protecting the shipping lanes for the benefit of all other countries, seal the border, we would do just fine because we would not be spending trillions in foreign adventures and could use that money and talent at home. Maybe some things (usually cheaply made) would be more expensive. But, then again, maybe there would be more jobs here (though more menial ones). And quality could be better and savings in shipping costs. And we would still have our military technology (nukes, drones, etc) so doubt invasion by "debtors looking to collect."

Which "world courts"? WTO? International Bank of Settlements? UN? IMF? None would exist without us (and our funding) we could quite easily withdrawl from them. And Constitutionally there are in question anyway.




First off, I want to flip this on it's head.  I think that the countries who lose illegal immigrants should sue the US for almost putting out a welcome mat and the policies they have had for decades.  They should bill for the loss of labour and the contributions that these motivated people would otherwise bring to their own economies.  They ought to bill the US for every person who enters illegal and seize resorts, hotels and property until the debt is paid.

I am not a fan of world courts... but if you are suggesting that they must rule in favour of the US or you will cut off their funding you are either suggesting that you have already bought them or that you own them.  Additionally, I believe that the US only contributed roughly 15% of the IMF funds and contributed roughly 13% of the WTO's budget.  I fear that you may have an inflated sense of importance when 24 million out of the 190 million required to run the WTO was contributed by the US (China, I believe was second with 12 million.)  Really, I think that they would find 13% somewhere.  (Here is the WTO's budget for 2010 if you want to confirm http://www.wto.org/english/res_e/booksp_e/anrep_e/anrep10_chap7_e.pdf )


Also, countries have to pay 1/4 of their special drawing rights for the IMF in a few accepted currencies (the most common being USD).  Forcing a country to purchase USD to donate to the IMF for a small percentage of the vote seems like the US has already made out quite well. 

Pulling out of these organizations would be great.  Suddenly there would be no more way to prevent countries form imposing 100% tariffs on US goods and taxing US corporations at a high rate short of a retallitory tariff.  If you read studies of how well that worked around WWII with rags you would quickly discover it is a complete loss of all countries involved- but the US does not escape unscathed either.  Again, I think that you may misjudge the reliance the US has on other countries.

Also, you seem to decide that the US will punish Guatemala and Mexico in the manner you seek, but steer clear of any anybody who might actually hurt you.  I really do not need to spell out how that looks.  Besides- you still go down rather dangerous paths (in particular voiding NAFTA and making every contract and trade agreement signed between the US and any other nation null and void.)  The only reason the USD is worth anything at all is trust (which is already stretched a little thin with the amount of printing.)  There is no gold reserve and seizing assets would diminish that trust.

Copyright and intellectual property of Hollywood ending up in the streets is small potatoes- patents, prescriptions, technology are worth far more (and yes, there are many times a company looses control of those aspects if they open shop in China or other nations.)

Also, you are right about the cold war.  China (and other creditors) cannot dump their paper fast enough to avoid major losses if they were to try.  They are hostages buying the paper to prop up the countries who trade with them and buy their goods- they cannot allow those economies to collapse without collapsing their own.

Having said that, try voiding the paper they hold... try seizing millions of their resources and watch the world implode.  I think you know full well that while "the US could still feed itself" that a decades long depression that would dwarf the "great depression" would not be good for anybody involved.  And all for the sake of recovering a couple of thousand dollars to return an illegal? 

On the other hand, were Mexico to retaliate when the US refused to pay the bill for the labour they "stole" by allowing and encouraging illegal immigration the world would not end.  I say they do it...  Drag the case before the WTO and hope for a windfall.

***Edit: Germany was second with 16 million for the WTO...

Derailing threads is fun... trade, world courts, treasuries, and patents all from Ebola? ;D

"Revenge"?  You are deluded.  I want you to recognize the hypocrisy of criticizing immigrants for bringing "disease" when that is precisely what my White Anglo Saxon Protestant forefathers did to the extant native population...


I haven't brought disease into the US.  I'm guessing you haven't either.

Where is the hypocrisy in not wanting anyone to bring it in now? 


Even if I had inadvertently brought some disease back with me from a trip outside the country, does that mean I have to support allowing others to do so now or be labeled 'hypocrite'?  Jeez.

First off, I want to flip this on it's head.  I think that the countries who lose illegal immigrants should sue the US for almost putting out a welcome mat and the policies they have had for decades.  They should bill for the loss of labour and the contributions that these motivated people would otherwise bring to their own economies.  They ought to bill the US for every person who enters illegal and seize resorts, hotels and property until the debt is paid.

I am not a fan of world courts... but if you are suggesting that they must rule in favour of the US or you will cut off their funding you are either suggesting that you have already bought them or that you own them.  Additionally, I believe that the US only contributed roughly 15% of the IMF funds and contributed roughly 13% of the WTO's budget.  I fear that you may have an inflated sense of importance when 24 million out of the 190 million required to run the WTO was contributed by the US (China, I believe was second with 12 million.)  Really, I think that they would find 13% somewhere.  (Here is the WTO's budget for 2010 if you want to confirm http://www.wto.org/english/res_e/booksp_e/anrep_e/anrep10_chap7_e.pdf )


Also, countries have to pay 1/4 of their special drawing rights for the IMF in a few accepted currencies (the most common being USD).  Forcing a country to purchase USD to donate to the IMF for a small percentage of the vote seems like the US has already made out quite well. 

Pulling out of these organizations would be great.  Suddenly there would be no more way to prevent countries form imposing 100% tariffs on US goods and taxing US corporations at a high rate short of a retallitory tariff.  If you read studies of how well that worked around WWII with rags you would quickly discover it is a complete loss of all countries involved- but the US does not escape unscathed either.  Again, I think that you may misjudge the reliance the US has on other countries.

Also, you seem to decide that the US will punish Guatemala and Mexico in the manner you seek, but steer clear of any anybody who might actually hurt you.  I really do not need to spell out how that looks.  Besides- you still go down rather dangerous paths (in particular voiding NAFTA and making every contract and trade agreement signed between the US and any other nation null and void.)  The only reason the USD is worth anything at all is trust (which is already stretched a little thin with the amount of printing.)  There is no gold reserve and seizing assets would diminish that trust.

Copyright and intellectual property of Hollywood ending up in the streets is small potatoes- patents, prescriptions, technology are worth far more (and yes, there are many times a company looses control of those aspects if they open shop in China or other nations.)

Also, you are right about the cold war.  China (and other creditors) cannot dump their paper fast enough to avoid major losses if they were to try.  They are hostages buying the paper to prop up the countries who trade with them and buy their goods- they cannot allow those economies to collapse without collapsing their own.

Having said that, try voiding the paper they hold... try seizing millions of their resources and watch the world implode.  I think you know full well that while "the US could still feed itself" that a decades long depression that would dwarf the "great depression" would not be good for anybody involved.  And all for the sake of recovering a couple of thousand dollars to return an illegal? 

On the other hand, were Mexico to retaliate when the US refused to pay the bill for the labour they "stole" by allowing and encouraging illegal immigration the world would not end.  I say they do it...  Drag the case before the WTO and hope for a windfall.

***Edit: Germany was second with 16 million for the WTO...
Trade existed far, far before there were things like the WTO, UN, IMF, NAFTA, CAFTA, etc. And there would be nothing to prevent two countries (or more) from forming a trading bloc. Or people and businesses from trading with each other. China/India (etc) already steal our technology and don't respect patents and us sending our critical high-tech mfg there for cheap labor helps cause this theft. Sure other countries put in some cash towards these organizations but how could they last if we pull out? Well, for one the UN property is in NYC so we reclaim that building and land. The IMF in DC, so we also get that nice property. And the WB is in DC. So, at a bare minimum those groups would have to reorganize and build new buildings somewhere. Without NATO and US influence the others wouldn't likely last that long or be dominated by China at some point.

Of course the USA is very reliant on other countries. That is the problem. But sealing our borders, bringing our troops and vessels home (how would all the trade happen without us ensuring the seas and oil supply linesare safe?), and growing our local economy could be accomplished. We have lots of land, lots of people, lots of ideas, and lots of infrastructure that can be improved. We have lots of resources (oil, gas, timber, coal, etc.) And we could still trade with people/countries but real free trade that benefits both parties not "free" trade agreements that undermine sovereignty or hurt US workers.

Two easy ways this can become a pandemic.


1.) The conspirators grow (The ones believing the doctors are infecting the people) in numbers and overthrow the medical teams on ground, and WHO issues a medical staff evacuation.

2.) The Ebola reaches one of the many locations where the constant jungle wars are going on. Africa is riddled with warlords and it seems there's a never end to the fighting. Usually in the area of thick dense jungle that meets a larger city.

In both of these cases it would make move quick, and making it probably impossible for the WHO to track. From there it only takes a person up to 20 days to move around like a ping pong ball and push it beyond the limits of controlling.


Two easy ways this can become a pandemic.


1.) The conspirators grow (The ones believing the doctors are infecting the people) in numbers and overthrow the medical teams on ground, and WHO issues a medical staff evacuation.

2.) The Ebola reaches one of the many locations where the constant jungle wars are going on. Africa is riddled with warlords and it seems there's a never end to the fighting. Usually in the area of thick dense jungle that meets a larger city.

In both of these cases it would make move quick, and making it probably impossible for the WHO to track. From there it only takes a person up to 20 days to move around like a ping pong ball and push it beyond the limits of controlling.
I'm not sure on this latest strain but the "good news" is that this disease is so awful and deadly that it has burnt itself out in the past. But now that it is in urban areas it is more likely that someone can get on a plane or boat and infect before we can stop it. I would hope the US, WHO, EU, OAS, etc is trying a quarantine and monitoring airports for anyone with flu-like symptoms or traveling from those regions, at least.

Two easy ways this can become a pandemic.


1.) The conspirators grow (The ones believing the doctors are infecting the people) in numbers and overthrow the medical teams on ground, and WHO issues a medical staff evacuation.

2.) The Ebola reaches one of the many locations where the constant jungle wars are going on. Africa is riddled with warlords and it seems there's a never end to the fighting. Usually in the area of thick dense jungle that meets a larger city.

In both of these cases it would make move quick, and making it probably impossible for the WHO to track. From there it only takes a person up to 20 days to move around like a ping pong ball and push it beyond the limits of controlling.
Yes, the combination of Ebola and somebody like the Boku Haram guys could be a bad combination

Finally people and the mainstream news and governments are beginning to worry. It seems this strain while killing at a slight less rate and has a longer incubation period of up to 21 days, according to the CDC, means it also can spread more easily, especially as it has reached large population centers with high population density and bad living conditions. One hope, skip, and jump from an airplane to Europe or the USA. And, of course, our borders are still wide-open one could imagine like the chicken-pox, TB, scabies, and the other diseases the illegals are bringing currently could eventually bring this as some OTMs caught have been African in the past. But more likely would be by airplane, or by accident from a treatment facility, I'm guessing.
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/breaking-news/emory-healthcare-to-treat-ebola-patient/ngrtm/
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/01/world/africa/sierra-leone-declares-health-emergency-over-ebola.html?_r=0

http://www.myfoxny.com/story/26170612/drill-in-new-york-city
Medical/Terror drill in NYC.

I'm not sure if this is just one of those tests periodically done, related to the Ebola situation or due to the TB- and all the other diseases- currently being spread via illegals coming across our open-border and then being caught and then bussed or flown, with our tax-money, to states (even including Hawaii and Alaska.) Or infected illegals that are undetected moving about the country on their own.

http://www.myfoxny.com/story/26170612/drill-in-new-york-city
Medical/Terror drill in NYC.

I'm not sure if this is just one of those tests periodically done, related to the Ebola situation or due to the TB- and all the other diseases- currently being spread via illegals coming across our open-border and then being caught and then bussed or flown, with our tax-money, to states (even including Hawaii and Alaska.) Or infected illegals that are undetected moving about the country on their own.


Yeah, but it's fucking funny isn't it? Go on, tell me you didn't smile a bit.


Yeah, but it's fucking funny isn't it? Go on, tell me you didn't smile a bit.
I'm not sure why disease and death is funny for you but go for it. A little sad and twisted, I think, but I guess you are laughing a lot these days! I guess you are the type who likes to watch holocaust films and pictures of the Unit 731 experiments. If you search around you can really get your rocks off on those photos of smallpox victims or the Ebola deaths. Maybe even in color if you are lucky!

I'm not sure why disease and death is funny for you but go for it. A little sad and twisted, I think, but I guess you are laughing a lot these days! I guess you are the type who likes to watch holocaust films and pictures of the Unit 731 experiments. If you search around you can really get your rocks off on those photos of smallpox victims or the Ebola deaths. Maybe even in color if you are lucky!


Oh sorry, I meant this bit.

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Or infected illegals that are undetected moving about the country on their own.

Exactly what are YOU doing to help prevent infection and incubation and ensure identification and isolation of said Ebola victims? Roughly? Short answer; you don't know the next person you meet tomorrow isn't infected with any number of notifiable diseases. But it's easier to to say all immigrants are potential carriers of (insert disease) because you don't know any different. Anyone is a potential carrier of any disease.

Oh, you guessed wrong about my film preferences. I much prefer watching films about bigots wrestling in cow shit. 


Oh sorry, I meant this bit.

Exactly what are YOU doing to help prevent infection and incubation and ensure identification and isolation of said Ebola victims? Roughly? Short answer; you don't know the next person you meet tomorrow isn't infected with any number of notifiable diseases. But it's easier to to say all immigrants are potential carriers of (insert disease) because you don't know any different. Anyone is a potential carrier of any disease.

Oh, you guessed wrong about my film preferences. I much prefer watching films about bigots wrestling in cow shit.
When did I say "I don't want to prevent infection and incubation and ensure identification and isolation of Ebola?" The exact opposite is true. And one of the best ways is to ensure that immigrants and travelers are properly monitored for any diseases they might be carrying. An open-border policy does precisely the opposite. And ensuring that the doctors being repatriated home and treated in an isolation ward. Nearby to the CDC is the ideal place.

 And it is true that "one doesn't know" if someone next you has a disease, particularly in these days of open-borders. But basic things can help prevent it (even basic things like handwashing, not sneezing and shaking hands, not traveling to 3rd world countries, washing foods, etc) Ebola, unlike TB for example, is less infectious than even common things like the TB, flu, etc which we have more to worry about (at least for now.) Right now, I'm not sure if they are even x-raying the immigrants for TB before they ship them off to far flung states, even Alaska and Hawaii. Though one would hope so. Word is they are trying to isolate the chickenpox, scabies, and the TB but, of course, the ones that just walk across the border and don't get picked up (or the ones that are released like the TB patient) will still spread whatever they got.

You have proven the maxim that there is a type of porn for any bizarre taste. Good luck with that cowshit and bigots wrestling. I always though that would be a more German deal and that you Brits like the spanking (and NAZI uniforms) stuff, like F1 Mosley apparently does, but to each his own. As long as you don't pull any Jimmy Saville stuff enjoy whatever you like with consenting adults.

German deal and that you Brits like the spanking (and NAZI uniforms) stuff, like F1 Mosley apparently does,


Nearly 70 million in the UK, and we must all like what Max Mosley does? I see. And all Americans like the same things as Ted Bundy did.. Seems fair enough. All 320 million... ;)



         It's simple. These Ebola motherfuckers probably just need electrolytes.

         http://texaslynn.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/brawndo-the-thirst-mutilator.jpg


Nearly 70 million in the UK, and we must all like what Max Mosley does? I see. And all Americans like the same things as Ted Bundy did.. Seems fair enough. All 320 million... ;)
No, but there is some truth behind most stereotypes.
To wit:
http://www.theweek.co.uk/film/44932/english-vice-why-do-we-love-talking-about-spanking
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-English-Vice-Beating-Victorian/dp/0715613901



No, but there is some truth behind most stereotypes.
To wit:


True. We learned quite early on that expecting our bitches to simply lie there without a struggle was unreasonable, so we tie them up first. If they're lucky they won't be left suspended from ropes for too long. And once we've had our way dripping wax on her, she'll be bent over a chair and flogged for a few minutes before (cont pp94)

True. We learned quite early on that expecting our bitches to simply lie there without a struggle was unreasonable, so we tie them up first. If they're lucky they won't be left suspended from ropes for too long. And once we've had our way dripping wax on her, she'll be bent over a chair and flogged for a few minutes before (cont pp94)
;) Haha, usually though it is predilection that the male is the one who is paddled or whipped. Something left over from public school days and home discipline, apparently. Often associated often with what the french call "the English Vice" also though. Weird world what google can tell you.
ps: the oddness of Mosley's antics were just because the NAZI angle, considering his dad, and the bizarre pseudo-realism (being checked for lice before entering the NAZI torture dungeon.) Bizarre but when you are that rich you can indulge your fetish to a high degree I guess.


Just to clarify: we have periodic epidemic drills in NYC and the surrounding suburbs, usually during the summer months. I wouldn't read too much into this particular one.