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Re: Building 7
« Reply #210 on: November 26, 2013, 06:50:32 PM »
Hey, Mel...  Well, just to get you started, here is this from Popular Mechanics:  "Conspiracy theorists have long claimed that explosives downed World Trade Center 7, north of the Twin Towers. The long-awaited report from the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) conclusively rebuts those claims. Fire alone brought down the building, the report concludes, pointing to thermal expansion of key structural members as the culprit. The report also raises concerns that other large buildings might be more vulnerable to fire-induced structural failure than previously thought."

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Honestly, I have done no research into this issue, but the conspiracy theory just sounds way too strange for me to put much investment into it.  If you've got something though to suggest a conspiracy, then please proceed, Governor.

Re: Building 7
« Reply #211 on: November 26, 2013, 07:01:35 PM »
pointing to thermal expansion of key structural members as the culprit.

Unfortunately, explosions are a thermal expansion.

Re: Building 7
« Reply #212 on: November 26, 2013, 07:51:44 PM »
there was a shit ton of crap going on and they were confused. Also I don't believe they specifically say 7 is down but that It was down. Which IT were they talking about?9

Re: Building 7
« Reply #213 on: November 26, 2013, 08:45:29 PM »
there was a shit ton of crap going on and they were confused. Also I don't believe they specifically say 7 is down but that It was down. Which IT were they talking about?9

That explains the vast majority of what went on that day.


Re: Building 7
« Reply #214 on: November 26, 2013, 10:51:46 PM »

9-11 in a nutshell
« Reply #215 on: April 27, 2014, 09:24:43 PM »
To all the outspoken members on this forum. If you don't believe in the 911 conspiracy, please explain your thoughts on building 7. I would really like to hear your rational on this.

Global Hawk was used as an illusion that the planes did it to the towers for they were demolished with nano-thermite!

A missile was fired from a demo container at the accounting side of the Pentagon so Rumy had an alibi!

The flight over Pennsylvania was shot down!

The stock exchange tells the story of puts on airline stocks by nefarious investors who were never further investigated.
With no further ado
Its Christmas time the year is 2000, Esy Monee works as a director for the investment firm of XYZ bank and he is looking forward to his bonus.

His uniform is a suit and tie; it does not need a bullet proof vest nor a helmet. This killer has an unlikely weapon a keyboard, so he laughs as his fingers caress the keyboard knowing the odds of being caught are nil. That's because he works for a large bank firm and he is well organized! XYZ bank is loaded with IRA's, 401 k's and the savings of many middle class people, poor and a few wealthy. This environment was legally setup by the ending of the Glass-Seagull Act. With a few clicks of the mouse billions in retirement fund money is used for collateral in a 30 to 1 odd payout on a credit default swap. Esy is willing to risk it, he knows he himself will only see a bonus for around $200,000.00 this year. The money is tied up for years. Just as long as the books are cooked and his boss sees his 3 million bonus will it be approved.

We are living in a bank investment system that is propped up on a military industrial complex with oil at its engine. No governments are calling in their loans and no country is giving up their land. Also none of the well connected cabal of leaders are going to prison. Yes these leaders and bankers will ruin the fragile economic engines and inevitably lead us into a global war. Power and greed has run a muck. These people will not have to fight they have all the money and power. Open your history books and see the carcasses that thought they were dying for patriotism, but in the shadowy background greed and money was motivating the wars which fed to the poor on the pulpit of lies.

9/11 was never about 19 Muslims, The Twin Towers falling, or the conspirators. The shadowy figures behind 9/11 knew even if they admitted complicity to involvement by mistake that they were to big to go down. What they wanted to maintain was the smoke and mirrors of insane financial schemes going on in the background. The greatest looting of America was happening unrestrained as the big shots toyed with pensions of the working class. The bastards even had the gall to call short airline stocks the day prior to 9/11, no 9/11 was not a conspiracy but, The Largest Most in depth conspiracy ever to hit a comatose race of sheeple on the earth.

In order leading up to 9/11

A) The Black-Scholes equation

B) Glass–Steagall Act

C) Then the press release convenient right before 9/11 Rumsfeld cannot find 2.3 Trillion Dollars


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On Sept. 10, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld declared war. Not on foreign terrorists, "the adversary's closer to home. It's the Pentagon bureaucracy," he said.

He said money wasted by the military poses a serious threat.

"In fact, it could be said it's a matter of life and death," he said.

Rumsfeld promised change but the next day – Sept. 11-- the world changed and in the rush to fund the war on terrorism, the war on waste seems to have been forgotten.

Just last week President Bush announced, "my 2003 budget calls for more than $48 billion in new defense spending."

More money for the Pentagon, CBS News Correspondent Vince Gonzales reports, while its own auditors admit the military cannot account for 25 percent of what it spends.

"According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions," Rumsfeld admitted.








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Anyone who has followed the crisis will understand that the real economy of businesses and commodities is being upstaged by complicated financial instruments known as derivatives. These are not money or goods. They are investments in investments, bets about bets. Derivatives created a booming global economy, but they also led to turbulent markets, the credit crunch, the near collapse of the banking system and the economic slump. And it was the Black-Scholes equation that opened up the world of derivatives.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/feb/12/black-scholes-equation-credit-crunch

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Derivatives: The Unregulated Global Casino for Banks

SHORT STORY: Pick something of value, make bets on the future value of "something", add contract & you have a derivative.

Banks make massive profits on derivatives, and when the bubble bursts chances are the tax payer will end up with the bill.

This visualizes the total coverage for derivatives (notional). Similar to insurance company's total coverage for all cars.

LONG STORY: A derivative is a legal bet (contract) that derives its value from another asset, such as the future or current value of oil, government bonds or anything else. Ex- A derivative buys you the option (but not obligation) to buy oil in 6 months for today's price/any agreed price, hoping that oil will cost more in future. (I'll bet you it'll cost more in 6 months). Derivative can also be used as insurance, betting that a loan will or won't default before a given date. So its a big betting system, like a Casino, but instead of betting on cards and roulette, you bet on future values and performance of practically anything that holds value. The system is not regulated what-so-ever, and you can buy a derivative on an existing derivative.

Most large banks try to prevent smaller investors from gaining access to the derivative market on the basis of there being too much risk. Deriv. market has blown a galactic bubble, just like the real estate bubble or stock market bubble (that's going on right now). Since there is literally no economist in the world that knows exactly how the derivative money flows or how the system works, while derivatives are traded in microseconds by computers, we really don't know what will trigger the crash, or when it will happen, but considering the global financial crisis this system is in for tough times, that will be catastrophic for the world financial system since the 9 largest banks shown below hold a total of $228.72 trillion in Derivatives - Approximately 3 times the entire world economy. No government in world has money for this bailout. Lets take a look at what banks have the biggest Derivative Exposures and what scandals they've been lately involved in. Derivative Data Source: ZeroHedge

http://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/derivatives/bank_exposure.html

Re: Building 7
« Reply #216 on: April 27, 2014, 09:34:48 PM »

Re: Building 7
« Reply #217 on: April 27, 2014, 09:46:44 PM »

Staten Island: 9/11 debris removal investigation post
« Reply #218 on: April 28, 2014, 12:12:48 AM »
Eye's Wide Shut or brains numbed by the media event of 9/11. How in anyone's mind did we miss this?


I submit to you that the debris removal, and cutting of steel columns was done in haste and that the speedily removal to fresh kills with little thought to survivors is a crime alone. No wonder so many don't believe the official story!

With in hours America would be tearing rubble away at a rapid pace; never mind any survivors, because we figured they all died and so we had to take there remains to a dump to be processed. This included of the 3000 souls were NYC's finest.


How the hell do you look for survivors with these methods?

? When Giuliani passes away at what site should we process his remains?



Fresh Kills dump site is about 5.2 miles away from Lower Manhattan and how convenient if you look at the chart how whomever had this site prepared for September.


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Staten Island
The City didn’t have to look very far for a place to handle the
tons of debris that were being removed from Ground Zero. To
meet a campaign promise, Mayor Guiliani had recently shut
down the Fresh Kills Landfill on Staten Island (later renamed
the Staten Island Landfill) where, for years, barges had
brought in garbage from New York City. Newly capped with a
layer of soil, the 2,200 acre landfill was a perfect choice.


Guiliani had promised that 100 percent of the victims would
be identified, and the way he chose to do that was to haul
everything to the Staten Island Landfill, lay it out and let the
agents (NYPD, FBI, Secret Service, CIA, and K-9 units) go
through the debris looking for evidence. The landfill had been
closed since March of that year, but all the apparatus remained
in place: barges, haul trucks, bulldozers, loaders, as well as 90
workers the Mayor would not lay off.
http://911depository.info/PDFs/Other%20Reports/Phillips%20and%20Jordan%20Inc%20-%20World%20Trade%20Center%20Forensic%20Recovery.pdf



Just look at the Chile mine disaster and earthquakes around the world people don't first think about the rubble. They think about survivors and if you read here this is what was on City Officials minds.


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At 11:00 the next morning, September 12th
, P&J received a phone call from the Baltimore District office of the U.S.
Army Corps of Engineers. They told us that our ACI contract
might be activated and wanted to know how quickly we could
respond with 100-200 dump trucks and 200 torch crews.
We called them back a couple of hours later and told them
everything was in readiness. We were told to stand by in case
they needed us.

Re: Staten Island: 9/11 debris removal investigation post
« Reply #219 on: April 28, 2014, 12:50:22 AM »
Remind us again why Falkie had to go?

Re: Building 7
« Reply #220 on: April 28, 2014, 12:52:04 AM »
My God... it's full of sources.

Re: Staten Island: 9/11 debris removal investigation post
« Reply #221 on: April 28, 2014, 01:47:10 AM »

Overwhelmed or Upset?


This message is for those who may be feeling upset, angry, or otherwise overwhelmed by all the craziness in our world. The intention of presenting these materials is not at all to make anyone feel overwhelmed or upset. Our intention is to help people understand what has been hidden from the public by various forces, and to inspire us to join together in building a brighter future for us all. We have no doubt that that everyone of us can make a difference in what is happening in our world.

There are clear reasons why all of this can be overwhelming. Most of us over the years have developed fairly well-established ideas of how democracy, government, and businesses function in our nation and world. Our educational system and the media generally reinforce beliefs we developed from an early age in the way the world works.

It is not easy to open to evidence which seriously challenges these beliefs, even if the information is verifiable and from reliable sources.


*pats gently*

Re: Staten Island: 9/11 debris removal investigation post
« Reply #222 on: April 28, 2014, 02:19:35 AM »

Overwhelmed or Upset?


This message is for those who may be feeling upset, angry, or otherwise overwhelmed by all the craziness in our world. The intention of presenting these materials is not at all to make anyone feel overwhelmed or upset. Our intention is to help people understand what has been hidden from the public by various forces, and to inspire us to join together in building a brighter future for us all. We have no doubt that that everyone of us can make a difference in what is happening in our world.

There are clear reasons why all of this can be overwhelming. Most of us over the years have developed fairly well-established ideas of how democracy, government, and businesses function in our nation and world. Our educational system and the media generally reinforce beliefs we developed from an early age in the way the world works.

It is not easy to open to evidence which seriously challenges these beliefs, even if the information is verifiable and from reliable sources.


*pats gently*

Wow excellent quote :)
Time to wake them all up Jackstar!

Re: Staten Island: 9/11 debris removal investigation post
« Reply #223 on: April 28, 2014, 02:20:39 AM »
First rule of Trutherism: assume that everyone else is dumb.

Re: Staten Island: 9/11 debris removal investigation post
« Reply #224 on: April 28, 2014, 02:28:16 AM »
Quite. There are some bears I would prefer not to poke.

What's going to happen to the economy if all the plumbers suddenly wake up? I'm getting the nightsweats just thinking about it.


Re: Staten Island: 9/11 debris removal investigation post
« Reply #225 on: April 28, 2014, 02:40:58 AM »
First rule of Trutherism: assume that everyone else is dumb.

Their natural home is the David Iike forum where they can find like minded paraniod and disturbed kindred spirits. And they'd be made so welcome too.

Re: Staten Island: 9/11 debris removal investigation post
« Reply #226 on: April 28, 2014, 03:31:26 AM »
Their natural home is the David Iike forum where they can find like minded paraniod and disturbed kindred spirits. And they'd be made so welcome too.

ok a huge lol :)

Re: Staten Island: 9/11 debris removal investigation post
« Reply #227 on: April 28, 2014, 03:33:07 AM »
Quite. There are some bears I would prefer not to poke.

What's going to happen to the economy if all the plumbers suddenly wake up? I'm getting the nightsweats just thinking about it.
A majorly huge lol :) I almost spit up my coffee.  My eyes went red and I thought it would come through my nose LMFAO.

Re: Building 7
« Reply #228 on: April 28, 2014, 03:51:24 PM »
That explains the vast majority of what went on that day.


This is fucking awesome.  I wish more Truthers would open their peepers to the real truth and not "The TruthTM"


Re: Building 7
« Reply #229 on: April 28, 2014, 04:25:38 PM »
I know what I mean when I tell people to "pull it".
You best believe there is gas involved.

Re: Building 7
« Reply #230 on: April 28, 2014, 08:00:51 PM »
I wish more Truthers would open their peepers to the real truth and not "The TruthTM"
Oh, do go on. What is "the real truth" again?


Re: Building 7
« Reply #231 on: April 29, 2014, 12:12:59 PM »
Oh, do go on. What is "the real truth" again?


Jackstar this is the evidence that the world needs to see.  It's so obvious that its nano thermite and I wish the skeptics would just open a up a science book once and a while, but the vast majority of sheeple are perhaps to naive or scared. Right on you go man!

Re: Building 7
« Reply #232 on: April 29, 2014, 12:47:25 PM »
I heard 9/11 causes autism in children.

Re: Building 7
« Reply #233 on: April 29, 2014, 06:30:54 PM »
It's so obvious that its nano thermite a pan-dimensional directed energy molecular disincorporation ray

Fixed.

I heard 9/11 bisphenol-A causes autism in children.

Fixed. What did you think the 'A' stood for? America?

Re: Staten Island: 9/11 debris removal investigation post
« Reply #234 on: May 01, 2014, 12:06:15 AM »
Thanks for that picture of Rudy in drag. I hadn't seen it.

Re: Building 7
« Reply #235 on: May 02, 2014, 11:12:54 PM »
Oh, do go on. What is "the real truth" again?



Re: Building 7
« Reply #236 on: May 03, 2014, 01:27:14 AM »
what about Building Pi?  No one ever asks about that building

More secret 9/11/01 documents identified (2014-04-30)
« Reply #237 on: May 06, 2014, 11:24:51 AM »
I bet you thought we were done with this blistering nonsense, right? Well, think again, Apologists.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/04/30/4090497/more-secret-911-documents-identified.html

More secret 9/11 documents identified, but FBI has yet to turn them over to judge

... tango foxtrot? It is thirteen years later. They still have the sack to leave boxes of jazz in the back? What is it... Benghazi??

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Contradicting an earlier assertion made under oath by a senior FBI official, an attorney for the Justice Department said [on April 30] that the FBI has identified four more boxes of “classified” 9/11 documents held by its Tampa field office. The government, however, has yet to comply with a federal judge’s orders ... that it turn over copies of that massive 9/11 file — now said to total 27 boxes — for his personal inspection. U.S. District Judge William J. Zloch issued those orders in a Freedom of Information lawsuit brought by BrowardBulldog.org seeking records about the FBI’s investigation into apparent pre-9/11 terrorist activity in Sarasota. Former Florida Sen. Bob Graham, who co-chaired Congress’ Joint Inquiry into the 9/11 attacks, has said that the FBI did not disclose the existence of the Sarasota investigation to either the Joint Inquiry or the subsequent 9/11 Commission. The documents state that the Sarasota Saudis had “many connections” to “individuals associated with the terrorist attacks on 9/11/2001.” One document lists three individuals, with names blacked out, and ties them to the Venice, Fla., flight school where suicide hijackers Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi trained.

Re: More secret 9/11/01 documents identified (2014-04-30)
« Reply #238 on: May 06, 2014, 05:47:25 PM »
I bet you thought we were done with this blistering nonsense, right? Well, think again, Apologists.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/04/30/4090497/more-secret-911-documents-identified.html

More secret 9/11 documents identified, but FBI has yet to turn them over to judge

... tango foxtrot? It is thirteen years later. They still have the sack to leave boxes of jazz in the back? What is it... Benghazi??
You would think that 13years would be enough time to sanitize all the documents. But you know the efficiency of the Feds. But to give them some credit- they've had so much more to cover-up in the mean time. It is not like failed ops, blown intelligence, and various other political cover-ups and scandals stopped with 9/11. You gotta feel for those poor bureaucrats sometimes. Having to cover-up so much. You would think they would just get a general file and throw all paperwork with regard to 9/11, Fast&Furious, IRS scandal, Benghazi, etc etc and burn it all. Instead they need to black-out, lose documents, hide documents, lie to Congress and judges, etc. So much work.
ps: whatever happened to the Lloyd's lawsuit against the Saudis post 9-11? Sort of dropped off radar. Big $$ hushed up settlement?

Re: More secret 9/11/01 documents identified (2014-04-30)
« Reply #239 on: May 06, 2014, 05:53:06 PM »
albrecht...  I do believe that's EXACTLY what happened with that Lloyd's Of London lawsuit.