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Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68370 on: December 19, 2015, 01:17:34 PM »
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Saturday - December 19, 2015
6-10pm PT: Art Bell - Somewhere in Time returns to 7/30/97 when Native American elder Robert Ghostwolf addressed what the weird weather really means.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68371 on: December 19, 2015, 01:18:37 PM »
I see. You infer that it is both logical and intelligent to assume  that a man - about whom you know nothing- is telling the truth about a situation - the details of which you can obtain no independent verification of - just because he says so? We must have different a understanding of the words 'logical' and 'intelligent'. It sounds more like you are being a credulous rube to me. Why not just leave it an open question, if nothing else. If he has some hard evidence, then bring it out, that's all we ask. Don't just throw out hints and half-answers, or people (the adults, that is) will start to ask questions. If you want to be told a bedtime story and be given a good sloppy kiss afterwards then feel free, but leave others to exercise a little scepticism at least.

Art's claims have yet to be disproved.  Can you do that?  Do you have any evidence that Art wasn't shot at?

Do you have an proof that he's lying?  If so, please share it with us.  Like an adult.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68372 on: December 19, 2015, 01:19:06 PM »
Have you ever heard the phrase innocent until proven guilty? 

Oh, for god's sake. Nobody is saying he has committed a crime. We are applying logic to whatever evidence there is and it looks like it is falling short. You don't make a witness statement to the police and get butthurt if you are not believed.  You need to back it up. Don't be so bloody stupid.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68373 on: December 19, 2015, 01:19:13 PM »
I could have said I would just take a break till we get this resolved but I said what I said and you can't take words back.

Art

Feel free to make a liar out of yourself at any time on this. I won't mind one bit.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68374 on: December 19, 2015, 01:20:10 PM »
Okay.  Back in the thread.  What have I missed, besides about 60 fucking pages of BS, paranoia, butthurt, panic, innuendo, fear, misdirection, davebots, trolling, sniping and did I say BS?

What has ART posted, in say, the last 48 hours?  What is the hard info or are we just grabfucking everything we can in the dark?   

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68375 on: December 19, 2015, 01:20:25 PM »
Oh, for god's sake. Nobody is saying he has committed a crime. We are applying logic to whatever evidence there is and it looks like it is falling short. You don't make a witness statement to the police and get butthurt if you are not believed.  You need to back it up. Don't be so bloody stupid.

You need to back up your claim that Art is lying.  If you can't do that, then you need to learn to shut up.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68376 on: December 19, 2015, 01:20:36 PM »
Art's claims have yet to be disproved.  Can you do that?  Do you have any evidence that Art wasn't shot at?

Do you have an proof that he's lying?  If so, please share it with us.

All we have is a belief, with nothing else. The burden of proof is with him, not us.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68377 on: December 19, 2015, 01:22:39 PM »
Okay.  Back in the thread.  What have I missed, besides about 60 fucking pages of BS, paranoia, butthurt, panic, innuendo, fear, misdirection, davebots, trolling, sniping and did I say BS?

What has ART posted, in say, the last 48 hours?  What is the hard info or are we just grabfucking everything we can in the dark?

Just the same old bs and whining.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68378 on: December 19, 2015, 01:23:14 PM »
All we have is a belief, with nothing else. The burden of proof is with him, not us.

He doesn't have to prove anything to anyone.  He owes you nothing.

Why do you think Art Bell owes you anything SredniVashtar?  Just what kind of spoiled little shit did your parents bring up?


Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68379 on: December 19, 2015, 01:31:02 PM »
Just the same old bs and whining.

Like a bunch of fucking cherries.  "Hey Gunny, when are gonna get some more water?"  "Hey Gunny, I'm down to one magazine, when we gonna get some more ammo?"  Hey, Gunny, when we gonna get some hot chow?"  "Hey Gunny, I got sand in my clit.  Again."

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68380 on: December 19, 2015, 01:32:14 PM »
He doesn't have to prove anything to anyone.  He owes you nothing.

Why do you think Art Bell owes you anything SredniVashtar?  Just what kind of spoiled little shit did your parents bring up?

Remember, he's British.  He may only sound spoiled due to his affected British Voice of Privilege inflections.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68381 on: December 19, 2015, 01:34:27 PM »
Like a bunch of fucking cherries.  "Hey Gunny, when are gonna get some more water?"  "Hey Gunny, I'm down to one magazine, when we gonna get some more ammo?"  Hey, Gunny, when we gonna get some hot chow?"  "Hey Gunny, I got sand in my clit.  Again."

You da man, Art!

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68382 on: December 19, 2015, 01:35:39 PM »
Remember, he's British.  He may only sound spoiled due to his affected British Voice of Privilege inflections.

+1

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68383 on: December 19, 2015, 01:40:25 PM »
Dude, LMH likes cows. Only dead ones.

That have had their assholes reamed.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68384 on: December 19, 2015, 01:42:20 PM »
All we have is a belief, with nothing else. The burden of proof is with him, not us.
Sorry Sredni, but you're on your own here.  He's burdened enough.  Harping on the subject won't change the conditions.  If you can, just let it go.  It is what it is.  That's all that it needs to be.

Okay, my friend, how is the Christmas Carol coming?  Did ya put me in it?  Even if I'm just the snowman, I'd be thrilled to be in one of your stories.  I do hope Christmas Carol is just the beginning of the "Vashtar Ventures" we could be in for! ;) ;D

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68385 on: December 19, 2015, 01:43:57 PM »
As I've said before, I do not claim, nor have I ever claimed, Art has lied about any part of this.  I mean, it's his word against who...?  That said, I'm a fact guy.  For a fact (assuming the sheriff's press release posted here is both genuine and accurate), Art claims to have taken a death threat (against he and his family) call from a blocked phone number a couple hours before air time.  He had his producer, who apparently was not on-site, call the LEO to report the threat, but declined to talk to the deputies.  When he did talk with them (next day?), he declined to file an official report, thus apparently keeping the police from getting a court order to identity the blocked number.

Those are facts per the press release.  I find that odd.  If others don't, no problem.



Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68386 on: December 19, 2015, 01:45:03 PM »
Feel free to make a liar out of yourself at any time on this. I won't mind one bit.
+1 ;)

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68387 on: December 19, 2015, 01:46:34 PM »
Ballgrabbers are ridiculously out of their minds. They drank the cool aid, took it up the ass, than, kicked to the side of the dirt road and want more. THIS IS MADNESS!  :o

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68388 on: December 19, 2015, 01:47:12 PM »
As I've said before, I do not claim, nor have I ever claimed, Art has lied about any part of this.  I mean, it's his word against who...?  That said, I'm a fact guy.  For a fact (assuming the sheriff's press release posted here is both genuine and accurate), Art claims to have taken a death threat (against he and his family) call from a blocked phone number a couple hours before air time.  He had his producer, who apparently was not on-site, call the LEO to report the threat, but declined to talk to the deputies.  When he did talk with them (next day?), he declined to file an official report, thus apparently keeping the police from getting a court order to identity the blocked number.

Those are facts per the press release.  I find that odd.  If others don't, no problem.

Yes. It is odd.

Then again I have done some odd stuff in my life, and you probably have to.

I agree he should have been more proactive trying to get a trace on the call besides a call to his phone company. Maybe Art did try other tactics. He should definitely hire a private detective. I think Art might actually know who it is, just doesn't have proof.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68389 on: December 19, 2015, 01:50:01 PM »
Ballgrabbers are ridiculously out of their minds. They drank the cool aid, took it up the ass, than, kicked to the side of the dirt road and want more. THIS IS MADNESS!  :o


Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68390 on: December 19, 2015, 01:50:19 PM »
As I've said before, I do not claim, nor have I ever claimed, Art has lied about any part of this.  I mean, it's his word against who...?  That said, I'm a fact guy.  For a fact (assuming the sheriff's press release posted here is both genuine and accurate), Art claims to have taken a death threat (against he and his family) call from a blocked phone number a couple hours before air time.  He had his producer, who apparently was not on-site, call the LEO to report the threat, but declined to talk to the deputies.  When he did talk with them (next day?), he declined to file an official report, thus apparently keeping the police from getting a court order to identity the blocked number.

Those are facts per the press release.  I find that odd.  If others don't, no problem.

I find the whole thing very odd, but not out of  the realm of possibility or even probability in this sad world we live in.  Just look at some of the weirdos coming out of the woodwork after Art's announcement.  Some of them are obviously just kids looking for yet another Internet target, but others are clearly adults with some serious mental health issues.

I don't know if any of you actually recall a guy named Alan Berg?  Some of you might not be old enough to remember him.  If you don't know who I'm talking about, look him up.  You might learn something.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68391 on: December 19, 2015, 01:57:15 PM »
He doesn't have to prove anything to anyone.  He owes you nothing.

Why do you think Art Bell owes you anything SredniVashtar?  Just what kind of spoiled little shit did your parents bring up?

The problem, my dear old darling, is that words are tricky for the uninitiated, so let me walk you through this. Feel free to ask questions if I go too fast for you.

I couldn't care a tinker's damn what Art does or says. I don't say he is lying either. The problem (and where you fall into your self-dug hole) is that you are a moron. It's one think to ask to see evidence for a claim, another to say that someone is flat out lying. I can't make the determination that he is telling a deliberate falsehood, but I can say that he hasn't brought enough to the table to be believed outright.

If you want to believe someone who appears to be losing his grip then you are free to do so. I don't think - on the evidence of the last few months - that you could say that he is operating at optimum mental efficiency. In fact, I might even say that he is giving signs of hosting a small colony of bats in his upper-storey. Perhaps you and Art can go flying drones indoors together - it sounds like the sort of stuff you'd enjoy. Perhaps he'd even let you jerk him off afterwards.

Saying to someone 'you can't prove it's not true' falls into  the same category as all those other claims that think they are strong because they can't be tested. I can't  prove he wasn't shot at, but he can't prove he was. I can't say he's lying, I can only say that he hasn't given enough for us to believe him.

In the great scheme of things, I don't care one way or the other. But don't let me stop you getting Xmas cards from the Tooth Fairy, or putting out a glass of sherry for Santy Claus in the next few days.  We all need our little daydreams, don't we?

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68392 on: December 19, 2015, 01:58:27 PM »
Okay.  Back in the thread.  What have I missed, besides about 60 fucking pages of BS, paranoia, butthurt, panic, innuendo, fear, misdirection, davebots, trolling, sniping and did I say BS?

What has ART posted, in say, the last 48 hours?  What is the hard info or are we just grabfucking everything we can in the dark?
That pretty much covers it.  Oh, MV had Falkie on GabCast last night.  And, of course, Dave still sucks. 

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68393 on: December 19, 2015, 02:03:03 PM »
Remember, he's British.  He may only sound spoiled due to his affected British Voice of Privilege inflections.
The Germans must thank their lucky stars every day they lost the Battle of Britain. 

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68394 on: December 19, 2015, 02:05:45 PM »
That pretty much covers it.  Oh, MV had Falkie on GabCast last night.  And, of course, Dave still sucks.

And there's a few more loons than usual flitting about the last few days.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68395 on: December 19, 2015, 02:07:54 PM »
That pretty much covers it.  Oh, MV had Falkie on GabCast last night.  And, of course, Dave still sucks.

Solid copy.  paladin, out.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68396 on: December 19, 2015, 02:09:50 PM »
And there's a few more loons than usual flitting about the last few days.
Keep your eyes peeled, Zeebo.  They may be looking for snacks.


Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68397 on: December 19, 2015, 02:21:16 PM »
Art's claims have yet to be disproved.
Glad to see you're finally using the correct word for the Saga of Art v5.0.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68398 on: December 19, 2015, 02:30:02 PM »
That have had their assholes reamed.

Reamed, cored out, prolapsed...

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #68399 on: December 19, 2015, 02:30:55 PM »


I couldn't care a tinker's damn what Art does or says. I don't say he is lying either. The problem (and where you fall into your self-dug hole) is that you are a moron. It's one think to ask to see evidence for a claim, another to say that someone is flat out lying. I can't make the determination that he is telling a deliberate falsehood, but I can say that he hasn't brought enough to the table to be believed outright.

If you want to believe someone who appears to be losing his grip then you are free to do so. I don't think - on the evidence of the last few months - that you could say that he is operating at optimum mental efficiency. In fact, I might even say that he is giving signs of hosting a small colony of bats in his upper-storey. Perhaps you and Art can go flying drones indoors together - it sounds like the sort of stuff you'd enjoy. Perhaps he'd even let you jerk him off afterwards.

Saying to someone 'you can't prove it's not true' falls into  the same category as all those other claims that think they are strong because they can't be tested. I can't  prove he wasn't shot at, but he can't prove he was. I can't say he's lying, I can only say that he hasn't given enough for us to believe him.

In the great scheme of things, I don't care one way or the other.

+1

All of what has happened lately with Art reminds me of one of Art's retirements ( can't remember which one) where he quit because of his back, yet he was heard live many a night sitting in his ham radio studio for hours on end, often longer than the duration of the show with the 3840 group.

Add to that his "hanging up the mic" for good.... not be on the air this night or any night", because being on the air is affecting his family's safety, yet less then 24 hours later his is on the air with Heather, however he quit or didn't quit , will do random shows/appearances....or sheesh, excuse me, "never said the word retire" 

I am not saying I believe or disbelieve this time around. Well said above Sredni! What will either believing, not believing or being skeptical do?

At this point I don't think it really matters anymore if Art is lying, not lying, telling half or whole truths.

I agree with what MV said on the Gabcast last night, when he said ( paraphrase) that it looks like Art just didn't want to do the show anymore. If he did, he had many other options to keep going with MITD however chose none.  At this point Art has burned too many bridges( Keith, staff, affiliates, many fans, the Cumulus deal) with his credibility to ever come back to any radio other than some small podcast somewhere...most won't touch him with more than a 1000' pole after this latest whatever.

Very, very sad.... :(