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Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110340 on: May 29, 2018, 09:54:08 AM »
The next time there is a Somewhere in Time episode where Art Bell has a Time Traveler dedicated line, we should all try to call in to see if anyone gets through.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110341 on: May 29, 2018, 10:20:35 AM »
Why?  It's no ones business here anyways.  The guy is dead, who cares exactly how it happened.  If he is dying in his sleep  COPD is not the direct cause.  You arent "sleeping" in the final stages, you are medicated, hopefully heavily so as to be freed from the horrible feeling of air hunger.  They certainly aren't taking Viagra, impregnating women or even walking anywhere.

I hope that Art perhaps felt some SOB and decided to take control of his destiny.  I wouldnt wish an actual death from COPD on my worse enemy.  COPD(Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease) is simply a blanket term for the trifecta of emphysema, chronic bronchitis, and refractory(non-reversible) asthma all in varying degrees.  They fight for every breath.  I once carried a woman from her bed to a bath because she was so weak that she had soiled herself and was too weak to even press the call button. She may have weighed 100 pounds max.  I felt so sorry for her, death was a blessing for her.

peace
Hog

Good on you for being there and responding, that had to be a brutally tough time....

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110342 on: May 29, 2018, 10:20:58 AM »


So how many of us are Nevada residents?


Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110343 on: May 29, 2018, 10:51:38 AM »
Art, are you still dead?


Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110344 on: May 29, 2018, 10:52:11 AM »
Art, are you still dead?

You're going to need to fire up the Spiricom to find out... ;)

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110345 on: May 29, 2018, 10:57:52 AM »
You're going to need to fire up the Spiricom to find out... ;)

okay, but i need to run to the store real quick for some smokes....

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110346 on: May 29, 2018, 11:07:38 AM »
okay, but i need to run to the store real quick for some smokes....

LOL! ;D

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110347 on: May 30, 2018, 10:07:42 AM »

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110348 on: May 30, 2018, 11:09:27 AM »


Lol...

Last night Noory opened by reporting that Knapp had just called the coroner's office but there were no results. Noory implied Knapp will be calling back on an almost daily basis. Coast is not letting it go...they must suspect it wasn't simply routine, or they wouldn't be leading with news that their investigative reporter is hounding officials for an ailing old smoker's COD. Stay tuned.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110349 on: May 30, 2018, 11:11:44 AM »
We let's just say Art fentanyl'd himself off to the other side and let it go at that, right?

Does it change anything, except perhaps in the administration of a life insurance policy?




Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110350 on: May 30, 2018, 11:13:52 AM »
We let's just say Art fentanyl'd himself off to the other side and let it go at that, right?

Does it change anything, except perhaps in the administration of a life insurance policy?
Inquiring minds want to know.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110351 on: May 30, 2018, 11:25:02 AM »
We let's just say Art fentanyl'd himself off to the other side and let it go at that, right?

Does it change anything, except perhaps in the administration of a life insurance policy?

A public figure's suicide is always newsworthy, it seems. Many life insurance policies no longer list suicide as a nullifier, so the results may not impact a payout. In any case, the future well-being of whatever heirs he specified may not be as dependent on life insurance as you'd expect in most cases.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110352 on: May 30, 2018, 11:38:59 AM »
We let's just say Art fentanyl'd himself off to the other side and let it go at that, right?

Does it change anything, except perhaps in the administration of a life insurance policy?

I remember him saying he didnít have life insurance.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110353 on: May 30, 2018, 12:10:45 PM »
OK then, the life insurance angle is tenuous which leads us back to the Russians.

And firecrackers.

 :o

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110354 on: May 30, 2018, 01:34:39 PM »
So how many of us are Nevada residents?

Money is fungible, and every district, county, city, and the state of Nevada itself receives federal funds. 

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110355 on: May 30, 2018, 01:36:10 PM »
I remember him saying he didnít have life insurance.

He said a lot of things.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110356 on: May 30, 2018, 03:59:31 PM »
Interesting to think about in context.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110357 on: May 30, 2018, 04:05:05 PM »
Money is fungible, and every district, county, city, and the state of Nevada itself receives federal funds.

That's an awfully nebulous money trail to travel for a Nye County autopsy report...

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110358 on: May 30, 2018, 07:21:40 PM »
So much for what George said about releasing the vaults. I heard this episode of SIT yesterday on one of the streams on Tunein. We need more classic episodes that aren't already easily available.

George has no interest in doing that. I believe secretly Noorie hates the fact SIT runs, it shows just how bad at his job he is.

Knapp calling to get toxicology report is not note worthy. Knapp is just living up to his word. When he was on when Art first died he promised he would get to the bottom of it. Knapp almost hinted he was poisoned, at least that is what I took out of it.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110359 on: May 30, 2018, 09:17:02 PM »
George has no interest in doing that. I believe secretly Noorie hates the fact SIT runs, it shows just how bad at his job he is.

Knapp calling to get toxicology report is not note worthy. Knapp is just living up to his word. When he was on when Art first died he promised he would get to the bottom of it. Knapp almost hinted he was poisoned, at least that is what I took out of it.

Audio of this?

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110360 on: May 30, 2018, 09:22:48 PM »
Are you leaving for good?

Don't be so passive aggressive, metro

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110361 on: May 30, 2018, 09:24:33 PM »
Audio of this?

I canít recall if it was the night of 13th or tribute show. Knapp doesnt come out and say it, I believe he says something like Iíll call medical examiner for toxicology report everyday until I get the results.

You may interpret that any way youíd like. But that is how I took it. I donít want to start a bad rumor because there are already so many accusations without one shred of evidence on bellgab.

He could have just been wanting to ensure that Art wasnt over prescribed pain pills or something, really I have no idea. Another option is Art was on a lot of pills, there could be negative interactions, etc. If my life long friend died you would bet Iíd be beating down doors fo a toxicology report. I know Knapp has done shows on the drug problem of this country from a lot of angles. Knapp could have meant a lot of things by that statement.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110362 on: May 31, 2018, 06:06:05 AM »
We let's just say Art fentanyl'd himself off to the other side and let it go at that, right?

Does it change anything, except perhaps in the administration of a life insurance policy?
From what it sounds like the final stages of COPD consist of- I would have offed myself with narcotic medication- Just going to sleep sounds a whole lot better than fighting for each and every breath.

I was a heavy smoker and this was the catalyst that got me to quit- All last winter I had a horrible cough that wouldnt go away and bordered on bronchitis and I was starting to get pretty concerned and then I heard about Art dying (even if it turns out to have been at his own hand it would have been more euthanasia because of the COPD) and I gave em up. The cough is already gone and I canmt ever remember breathing this well.

Still have half a carton in the freezer and no ghosts stealing them as of yet.

I'm now a bit past a month and a half of being (cigarette) smoke free- I had done alot of thinking over this and I dont want to ever find myself in a place where i'm in such pain that I would willing take my life- And in the late stages of COPD I would have to face that choice.


Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110363 on: May 31, 2018, 09:03:17 AM »
From what it sounds like the final stages of COPD consist of- I would have offed myself with narcotic medication- Just going to sleep sounds a whole lot better than fighting for each and every breath.

I was a heavy smoker and this was the catalyst that got me to quit- All last winter I had a horrible cough that wouldnt go away and bordered on bronchitis and I was starting to get pretty concerned and then I heard about Art dying (even if it turns out to have been at his own hand it would have been more euthanasia because of the COPD) and I gave em up. The cough is already gone and I canmt ever remember breathing this well.

Still have half a carton in the freezer and no ghosts stealing them as of yet.

I'm now a bit past a month and a half of being (cigarette) smoke free- I had done alot of thinking over this and I dont want to ever find myself in a place where i'm in such pain that I would willing take my life- And in the late stages of COPD I would have to face that choice.

Right on man!

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110364 on: May 31, 2018, 09:41:09 AM »
I saw somebody who said I only care about myself and not the listeners who were with me for Decades, nothing could be further from the truth, I will take to my grave the connection I have felt for those who spent countless late nights with me and were loyal to a fault. Without the support of those of you who loved the show as I loved doing it there would have been no show. I was never in this for the money, not ever, I was in it for the love of doing it, the subjects covered and the joy it brought to those who listened.

Art

worth re-reading.

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110365 on: May 31, 2018, 10:36:37 AM »
worth re-reading.
Very nice.

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peace
Hog


Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110366 on: May 31, 2018, 10:42:18 AM »

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110367 on: May 31, 2018, 11:10:58 AM »
Good on you for being there and responding, that had to be a brutally tough time....
Thank you, it was a tough time.  No family visited her, a few friends visited but once in Palliative Care they couldn't bear the sight.  We couldnt give her Oxygen as she was what was called a "retainer" or her body was unable to "blow off" the body's Carbon Dioxide in their breath. Hypercapnia is the elevated level of CO2 in the blood, this extra CO2 is what causes the body to speed and shallow the breathing in order to get more O2, if this reflex is absent, death can result.   This "reflex" when operating nominally will cause arousal(awakening) and the neck to twist around.It's the same system which causes SIDS(Sudden Infant Death Syndrome). As hypercapnia increases(CO2 levels in the blood rise) the blood Ph begins to drop and respiriatory acidosis will occur. 

 People always think that when they hyperventilate that they get "light headed" from "the extra Oxygen", but the light headness is caused by hypocapnia or a too low CO2 value.  If healthy your Blood Oxygen Saturation should already be 100%(or 100% of the hemoglobin is saturated by O2) so simply breathing more cant give you more O2, it merely "blows off" more CO2.

If you want to feel the feelings of COPD, breath in and out into a plastic bag for a few seconds. Eventually the 21% O2 level in the bag will drop as O2 is absorbed and CO2 fills the bag, at the same time your CO2 levels will begin to rise, this acts on your brain stem and you will have the urge to breath faster and faster, eventually a panicked feeling will set in. 
Now couple that with a helping of Asthma-that is constant and non-episodic(breathing through a straw) with a helping of Emphysema which is the Alveoli and other lung tissues that have suffered from Elastin breakdown and instead of being soft and compliant like rubber, feels more like leather which even if you can get air in, its difficult to get back out as the lungs cant stretch during inhalation and then rebound during exhalation. And lets no forget the Chronic Bronchitis which is giving us lots of phlegm and mucous to deal with as we are breathing with lungs made of leather through air passages the size of a straw.

I always thought that drowning would be the worst way to go, and while not great, at least there would be that few seconds of panic before you lost conciousness.  With end stage COPD its like days/weeks of waterboarding.

peace
Hog

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110368 on: May 31, 2018, 11:13:37 AM »
From what it sounds like the final stages of COPD consist of- I would have offed myself with narcotic medication- Just going to sleep sounds a whole lot better than fighting for each and every breath.

I was a heavy smoker and this was the catalyst that got me to quit- All last winter I had a horrible cough that wouldnt go away and bordered on bronchitis and I was starting to get pretty concerned and then I heard about Art dying (even if it turns out to have been at his own hand it would have been more euthanasia because of the COPD) and I gave em up. The cough is already gone and I canmt ever remember breathing this well.

Still have half a carton in the freezer and no ghosts stealing them as of yet.

I'm now a bit past a month and a half of being (cigarette) smoke free- I had done alot of thinking over this and I dont want to ever find myself in a place where i'm in such pain that I would willing take my life- And in the late stages of COPD I would have to face that choice.

Congrats, I wish you well.  The positives of quitting smoking begin minutes after your last cigarette and the healing will continue for a decade or two.  The human body is an amazing system.

I need to follow your lead.

peace
Hog

Re: Art Bell
« Reply #110369 on: May 31, 2018, 08:59:51 PM »
From what it sounds like the final stages of COPD consist of- I would have offed myself with narcotic medication- Just going to sleep sounds a whole lot better than fighting for each and every breath.

I was a heavy smoker and this was the catalyst that got me to quit- All last winter I had a horrible cough that wouldnt go away and bordered on bronchitis and I was starting to get pretty concerned and then I heard about Art dying (even if it turns out to have been at his own hand it would have been more euthanasia because of the COPD) and I gave em up. The cough is already gone and I canmt ever remember breathing this well.

Still have half a carton in the freezer and no ghosts stealing them as of yet.

I'm now a bit past a month and a half of being (cigarette) smoke free- I had done alot of thinking over this and I dont want to ever find myself in a place where i'm in such pain that I would willing take my life- And in the late stages of COPD I would have to face that choice.


Congratulations and thanks for sharing!  I hate the big tobacco companies that have taken so many special people from our midst.  Maybe we would still be hearing new classic Art shows if tobacco had not robbed us of the pleasure.  Maybe Art's death did some good by helping you to quit.  Spread the effect and tell all your friends to stop using tobacco.  If there are any folks growing tobacco out there, let me plead with you to stop growing it and choose some other crop.