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Re: Music
« Reply #7530 on: May 19, 2019, 04:04:26 AM »
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It sounds like your clock is missing a spring or two. You're supposed to be Norwegian not Swiss. Comparing his verses to machinery. Sniff! How velly velly vulgar.

I am demonstrating competence, not creating high art.  Don't make me dig up that metrically adventurous limerick of yours.

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« Reply #7531 on: May 19, 2019, 04:31:08 AM »
In the interests of equality, the way Brits pronounce "yoghurt" is absolutely awful. I think it's particularly grating when it comes from someone with the more upper class/educated accents.



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« Reply #7532 on: May 19, 2019, 05:08:24 AM »
I am demonstrating competence, not creating high art.  Don't make me dig up that metrically adventurous limerick of yours.

You're the IKEA of poetry. It's cheap and reasonably pleasant at first glance, but on closer inspection none of it fits together and it's basically rather nasty.

This isn't the first time you've made opprobrious remarks about my marvellous limericks. I don't know whether you ate some dodgy gravlax and it upset your judgement, but they have been widely praised by discerning connoisseurs. I don't expect simpering poetasters to appreciate the finer points. I write for the cream not the scum (tosses head disdainfully).


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« Reply #7533 on: May 19, 2019, 05:11:08 AM »
In the interests of equality, the way Brits pronounce "yoghurt" is absolutely awful. I think it's particularly grating when it comes from someone with the more upper class/educated accents.



I don't think Morrissey sees himself as either of those things. Certainly not upper-class. That's not a dig at him either.


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« Reply #7534 on: May 19, 2019, 05:22:40 AM »
You're the IKEA of poetry. It's cheap and reasonably pleasant at first glance, but on closer inspection none of it fits together and it's basically rather nasty.

This isn't the first time you've made opprobrious remarks about my marvellous limericks. I don't know whether you ate some dodgy gravlax and it upset your judgement, but they have been widely praised by discerning judges. I don't expect simpering poetasters to appreciate the finer points. I write for the cream not the scum (tosses head disdainfully).

A more-circumspect person might conclude, from the fact that the end-rhymes of my first four sonnets feature (in order) poo, pee, shit, and piss, that nastiness and I are old friends.  And please, I am not one of your sighing garret-bound poets in an open collar; I am a dread skald -- the similarity to "scold" is not coincidental -- at whose words princes tremble:

And all should cry, Beware! Beware!
His bloodshot eyes, his unkempt hair!
Weave a circle round him thrice
And tie him up before he leaves;
That shot of mead went to his head,
You won't believe the things he's said;
His honeydew was overripe,
We're not quite sure what's in his pipe.
Go fetch the coat with longish sleeves;
He might write something that's not nice.

Re: Music
« Reply #7535 on: May 19, 2019, 05:39:32 AM »
You idiots don't pronounce the aspirate in 'herb' either. How can these people be trusted?

This is actually a very interesting case.  Nearly all Anglo-American disputes over pronunciation can be broken down thus:  you tell us we sound uneducated and rustic while say you sound overly fastidious, i. e. gay.  Here it is the other way 'round.  I can't think of another like it.  I suspect it is the fear of sounding like Eliza Doolittle that preserves your h here.

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« Reply #7536 on: May 19, 2019, 05:46:56 AM »
I don't think Morrissey sees himself as either of those things. Certainly not upper-class. That's not a dig at him either.

Song and artist unrelated

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« Reply #7537 on: May 19, 2019, 06:08:03 AM »
This is actually a very interesting case.  Nearly all Anglo-American disputes over pronunciation can be broken down thus:  you tell us we sound uneducated and rustic while say you sound overly fastidious, i. e. gay.  Here it is the other way 'round.  I can't think of another like it.  I suspect it is the fear of sounding like Eliza Doolittle that preserves your h here.

Weirdly, people over here who naturally drop their aitches aspirate the letter aitch, pronouncing it 'haitch'. It's the only time they ever do it.

Re: Music
« Reply #7538 on: May 19, 2019, 06:41:05 AM »
Also, you keep trotting out "poetaster" like a cat with a dead bird.  If you must abuse, use the culturally appropriate "skaldfifl" (poet-fool), which is right out of Snorri.

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« Reply #7539 on: May 19, 2019, 07:05:03 AM »
 :-[i
Also, you keep trotting out "poetaster" like a cat with a dead bird.  If you must abuse, use the culturally appropriate "skaldfifl" (poet-fool), which is right out of Snorri.

How are ewww?


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« Reply #7540 on: May 19, 2019, 11:44:55 AM »
Also, you keep trotting out "poetaster" like a cat with a dead bird.  If you must abuse, use the culturally appropriate "skaldfifl" (poet-fool), which is right out of Snorri.

Interesting. Of all the barbs I've thrown at you, that one got under your skin, eh? Of course, now I know it annoys you I'll NEVER use it again. This is why the Vikings ultimately came to grief, you people lack tactical know-how. While you're clambering out of your longships, waving your axes around, we have our caltrops ready on the beach and a piquet of bowmen waiting to push you creatures back in the sea. You're like Siegfried; he might have thought he was safe, but wait till his backs turned and WALLOP, Hagen sticks his spear right through his coat of mail.


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« Reply #7541 on: May 19, 2019, 12:16:10 PM »
Interesting. Of all the barbs I've thrown at you, that one got under your skin, eh? Of course, now I know it annoys you I'll NEVER use it again. This is why the Vikings ultimately came to grief, you people lack tactical know-how. While you're clambering out of your longships, waving your axes around, we have our caltrops ready on the beach and a piquet of bowmen waiting to push you creatures back in the sea. You're like Siegfried; he might have thought he was safe, but wait till his backs turned and WALLOP, Hagen sticks his spear right through his coat of mail.

Huh.  That should have pulled him out of his  Fjord.

I'm guessing the K-Man is still passed out. I'm over in the New World smiting evil.   

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« Reply #7542 on: May 19, 2019, 12:31:49 PM »
 
Huh.  That should have pulled him out of his  Fjord.

I'm guessing the K-Man is still passed out. I'm over in the New World smiting evil.

Yes, I see a serpent in the garden of Eden, a fly in the ointment, a frog in the salad bowl. And you're just standing there, you louse.

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« Reply #7543 on: May 19, 2019, 12:37:03 PM »
Interesting. Of all the barbs I've thrown at you, that one got under your skin, eh? Of course, now I know it annoys you I'll NEVER use it again. This is why the Vikings ultimately came to grief, you people lack tactical know-how. While you're clambering out of your longships, waving your axes around, we have our caltrops ready on the beach and a piquet of bowmen waiting to push you creatures back in the sea. You're like Siegfried; he might have thought he was safe, but wait till his backs turned and WALLOP, Hagen sticks his spear right through his coat of mail.

You can stop right there:  it's Sigurd.  None of your debased southern variants for me.

There's a lot of cool stuff in the saga he didn't put in, like the hair-washing scene where Brynhild and Gudrun are washing their hair in a stream and Gudrun tells Brynhild she must wash her hair downstream because her husband is not as brave.  Brynhild says no one can be braver than the man who rode through the fire, and that is how she finds out.  As a sketch of the Nordic female, it's spot on.  The old-lady frenemies who visit each other and talk behind their hands about how much thinner they can roll their lefse are just reenacting.

I just thought you would think "skaldfifl" was a cool word, that's all.  Bleat about poetasters all you want.

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« Reply #7544 on: May 19, 2019, 12:39:11 PM »
Weirdly, people over here who naturally drop their aitches aspirate the letter aitch, pronouncing it 'haitch'. It's the only time they ever do it.

It is like how you can only say a terminal r where it doesn't belong.  I felt sorry for Princess Dianer the same way I feel sorry for the poor Pilipinos, stuck in a country they can't pronounce.

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« Reply #7545 on: May 19, 2019, 12:41:36 PM »
You can stop right there:  it's Sigurd.  None of your debased southern variants for me.

There's a lot of cool stuff in the saga he didn't put in, like the hair-washing scene where Brynhild and Gudrun are washing their hair in a stream and Gudrun tells Brynhild she must wash her hair downstream because her husband is not as brave.  Brynhild says no one can be braver than the man who rode through the fire, and that is how she finds out.  As a sketch of the Nordic female, it's spot on.  The old-lady frenemies who visit each other and talk behind their hands about how much thinner they can roll their lefse are just reenacting.

I just thought you would think "skaldfifl" was a cool word, that's all.  Bleat about poetasters all you want.

Skaldfifl doesn't exactly roll off the tongue though. I think there's a bard called a gleaner who deals in all the stupid stuff that goes on in a battle, maybe that's your metier.

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« Reply #7546 on: May 19, 2019, 12:44:28 PM »
It is like how you can only say a terminal r where it doesn't belong.  I felt sorry for Princess Dianer the same way I feel sorry for the poor Pilipinos, stuck in a country they can't pronounce.

I've never heard anyone here say Diana like that. Sounds like something they might say over there on the East coast.

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« Reply #7547 on: May 19, 2019, 12:46:47 PM »
I've never heard anyone here say Diana like that. Sounds like something they might say over there on the East coast.

It's called epenthetic r, and you probably don't even hear it.  It usually happens when the next word starts with a vowel or a schwa.

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« Reply #7548 on: May 19, 2019, 12:55:43 PM »
It's called epenthetic r, and you probably don't even hear it.  It usually happens when the next word starts with a vowel or a schwa.

Could be worse.  He could be saddled with the intrusive R and drop a "Wershington D.C." burger on you. 

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« Reply #7549 on: May 19, 2019, 12:57:53 PM »
It's called epenthetic r, and you probably don't even hear it.  It usually happens when the next word starts with a vowel or a schwa.

OK, I see what you mean, it's a kind of bridge. Otherwise it would involve a bit more effort to separate the words.

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« Reply #7550 on: May 19, 2019, 01:00:27 PM »
Could be worse.  He could be saddled with the intrusive R and drop a "Wershington D.C." burger on you.

Ugh now I gotta warsh my ears out with soap.  He just needs to say "Diana and I" three times fast.

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« Reply #7551 on: May 19, 2019, 01:01:43 PM »
OK, I see what you mean, it's a kind of bridge. Otherwise it would involve a bit more effort to separate the words.

Yeah some of you glottal-stop it but that's not what I hear the most.  And man is it ugly.

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« Reply #7552 on: May 19, 2019, 04:15:33 PM »
Ugh now I gotta warsh my ears out with soap.  He just needs to say "Diana and I" three times fast.
Far from being some fairy tale she was a Spencer (important family that also included Churchill by extension but most importantly Duke of Marbourgh and lots of real estate) and marrying into the latest German house ruling the UK- who changed their name lest the Kraut name offend British sensibilities.  I seem to vaguely recall some even more Masonic-Joose-Satanic-VenetianFamily-SumerianCult theories along with, of course, the whole Roman Diana and various date/astrological issues  ;)   related to Spencer but can't place them now. Maybe Springmier's stuff? Or vintage Russell Pine aka Jordan Maxwell? I forget it was many a SW radio broadcast ago....



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« Reply #7553 on: May 19, 2019, 04:16:06 PM »
Yeah some of you glottal-stop it but that's not what I hear the most.  And man is it ugly.
I've had a glottal-stop after some lutefisk or certain brands of snus. 



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« Reply #7554 on: May 19, 2019, 09:24:35 PM »
Far from being some fairy tale she was a Spencer (important family that also included Churchill by extension but most importantly Duke of Marbourgh and lots of real estate) and marrying into the latest German house ruling the UK- who changed their name lest the Kraut name offend British sensibilities.  I seem to vaguely recall some even more Masonic-Joose-Satanic-VenetianFamily-SumerianCult theories along with, of course, the whole Roman Diana and various date/astrological issues  ;)   related to Spencer but can't place them now. Maybe Springmier's stuff? Or vintage Russell Pine aka Jordan Maxwell? I forget it was many a SW radio broadcast ago....

We should ask Shreddie about those theories.  They'd be fun to hear, and he would know all about them since he has the commemorative plate.



And no one got my Xanadu joke.  Oh well.

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« Reply #7555 on: May 19, 2019, 09:58:10 PM »
We should ask Shreddie about those theories.  They'd be fun to hear, and he would know all about them since he has the commemorative plate.



And no one got my Xanadu joke.  Oh well.
I got an AMAZING thing that is a Rubic's Cube celebrating some Dutch royal marrying a daughter of a SA despot. Amazing. You can manipulate the cube to see stages of their courtship, no pun intended (?) and the grand event. So weird, so when I saw had to buy. It was a big deal, with some controversy- though, come on the queen at the time had an ex-NAZI as consort, as I recall. I could be wrong the Royalty stuff gets weird.

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« Reply #7556 on: May 19, 2019, 10:18:57 PM »
I got an AMAZING thing that is a Rubic's Cube celebrating some Dutch royal marrying a daughter of a SA despot. Amazing. You can manipulate the cube to see stages of their courtship, no pun intended (?) and the grand event. So weird, so when I saw had to buy. It was a big deal, with some controversy- though, come on the queen at the time had an ex-NAZI as consort, as I recall. I could be wrong the Royalty stuff gets weird.

Oh you should post a pic I would love to see!  But the Nazi stuff must be wrong; there were no German Nazis left after WWII  ;)

Re: Music
« Reply #7557 on: May 19, 2019, 10:31:43 PM »
Back to the subject at last a great cartoonish Oud-Hollands suite -- you can practically hear them klomping around.



He wrote a beautiful double oboe concerto, too.

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« Reply #7558 on: May 19, 2019, 10:41:10 PM »
Back to the subject at last a great cartoonish Oud-Hollands suite -- you can practically hear them klomping around.



He wrote a beautiful double oboe concerto, too.


 So I can't find the magic cube. But I think name Maxima. Aside from dictorship the recalldd to me Jap toy giant soldiers that could shoot stuff. Thanks dad for months away.

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« Reply #7559 on: May 19, 2019, 11:13:36 PM »

 So I can't find the magic cube. But I think name Maxima. Aside from dictorship the recalldd to me Jap toy giant soldiers that could shoot stuff. Thanks dad for months away.

Oh yeah she is queen now.  I actually watched their coronation or whatever they call it on thuh teevee.  I remember they puttered around the harbor on a little boat (this is around the time Queen Elizabeth was majestically propelled down the Thames on a giant red-painted floating casino they insisted on calling the Royal Barge, so water stuff was hot) viewing a pageant of Dutch culture -- total schlag, but fun.  There was a half-naked danseur cavorting on a special platform that made their king look quite uncomfortable hahaha