President Donald J. Trump

[albrecht]

Go back to the 19th century? Then wave goodbye to NASA. Wave goodbye to nearly all the aerospace companies (Including the Bell X1 supersonic jet). Wave bye bye to computing, wave bye bye to all major medical breakthroughs, and 1000's of other everyday things you and I take for granted. Your idea supposes that the immigrants would want to go to a country that they wouldn't be welcome in after a given period. You see, it works both ways.

Yeah because the engineers and doctors at NASA and Medical Centers were illiterate, diseased, criminal illegals. 

[Dr. MD MD]

What is the Democrat plan for fixing the ACA?  I've heard nothing but generalizations that involve throwing more $ at the problem.  I think a single payer plan is inevitable at this point but it won't be a conscious choice of the populace.  It will be a designed lurch into socialism by means of deception.

I don't think it will be totally socialized, more like two tracks: one guaranteeing a basic level of health coverage and then a paid system for non-essential things like plastic surgery or for those who want to cut to the front of the line. The problem is right now the drug and insurance companies have everyone by the balls. If it wasn't so exploitive in this way I could see maybe continuing but I can't think of a better way to make those cheaper unless you're buying in bulk, so to speak, for all your citizens. However, I agree that this is a dangerously slippery slope that needs to be handled with care or else we wind up in some sort of fascistic technocracy eventually.

[Dr. MD MD]

But they chose him anyway? Weird. 

No, WE THE PEOPLE chose him. You still don't understand the fundamental difference between our countries.  :

[Dr. MD MD]

Go on then Barbie, what would YOU do if you were completely broke through no fault of your own and had to choose between health care or eating? Be specific.

To Do List:
1. Kill pud
2. Smoke a cigar while sitting on his bloody carcass.

[PB the Deplorable]

Yeah because the engineers and doctors at NASA and Medical Centers were illiterate, diseased, criminal illegals. 

It's true, Albert Einstein was a west-hating illiterate Muslim with no jobs skills until he got to Princeton.  It's a heartwarming American story.

[Lt.Uhura]

I always assumed he was, and posted on here all the time to take his mind off it.

Those on SSDI will be the first to be eliminated. The GOP "plan" is essentially healthcare rationing.

[paladin1991]

Yeah, and remember this travesty of justice?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOtGr1JFCnE

I wonder how many of these fine young gentlemen are still on track with their declared goals?  In prison?  Dead?  Slinging dope?

[Dr. MD MD]

I wonder how many of these fine young gentlemen are still on track with their declared goals?  In prison?  Dead?  Slinging dope?

I was thinking more like sleeper cell. 

[paladin1991]

No vitriol--just a simple statement of fact. According to DELOITTE the corporate tax rate in the U.S. is 35% as compared with the U.K 20%, Ireland 13%, Japan 24%, S. Korea 20%.  Corporations have fled overseas to get a fair deal and people have lost their jobs.  Under the Obama Administration the middle class shrank by 12-15%, welfare roles increased by 32%, food stamps increased by 70% and the national debt doubled.   The richest 20% of the population pay 87% of total tax revenue as it stands today.  The lowest 40% not only do not pay taxes but actually recieve money from the government through tax credits.   You and your compadres continue to spout the same tired leftest horse shit in the face of incontrovertible facts .  That makes you a fucking idiot.
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There it is, 'in the data.'

[paladin1991]

They already are and that's simply because they lost.
To the 45th president of the United States, Donald J Trump.

I just know that seeing that pic posted in threads all over the internet makes libs feel the burn.   

[paladin1991]

I will guarantee you that adoption of a single payer system will neither reduce costs nor improve patient care in this Country.  The U.S. is not the U.K., France or Sweden (thank God.)  We value independence and personal choice.

That is true, Kid.  And so far, we've been willing to pay the price. But look around, bro.  How much of our country is happy to have a system where they get tax credits or just someone else outright paying for their existance. Because they are entitled to it. 

[PB the Deplorable]

But they chose him anyway? Weird. 

Yes, it's unprecedented at the presidential level in modern American history. 

Although Bernie Sanders also registered as a Democrat after years of being a Socialist ''Independent'', just so he could run in their primaries

Keep in mind Trump didn't win a majority of votes in the Republican primaries, which means most Republicans voted for someone else - but that vote was split among 15 other candidates.  Most of his votes in the general election were anti-Hilary votes, from people who were also hopeful he would enact the agenda he ran on. 

[PB the Deplorable]

No, I thought that obvious by now.  :

Pud has told us many times friends and colleagues in the UK don't discuss who they voted for, and have no idea what views other people they know hold - or whatever his exact comments on that were. 

Does that mean politics in general aren't discussed in Uk, and all they know is what the media tells them?  If so, it would explain his interest in discussing our political matters, and his naiveté.

[Yorkshire pud]

No, WE THE PEOPLE chose him. You still don't understand the fundamental difference between our countries.  :

NO, the Republican party chose him as their candidate, even though they knew he was a fraud and completely out of his depth. You chose to vote for a rep who was Republican.

[Yorkshire pud]

Yeah because the engineers and doctors at NASA and Medical Centers were illiterate, diseased, criminal illegals. 

You know they weren't? Werner von Braun was a war criminal...

[Yorkshire pud]

Pud has told us many times friends and colleagues in the UK don't discuss who they voted for, and have no idea what views other people they know hold - or whatever his exact comments on that were. 

Does that mean politics in general aren't discussed in Uk, and all they know is what the media tells them?  If so, it would explain his interest in discussing our political matters, and his naiveté.

Nope, but the tribal attitude doesn't prevail in the UK to the same percentage as it does in the US. Extremists are a tiny tiny minority; liberal doesn't equate with communism as it does in the USA; Conservatives don't (most of them anyway) like the idea of people dying simply because they're poor. And there isn't anywhere near the level of paranoia in the UK as there is in the US. And the UK doesn't need to have everyone armed to repel the government they voted in...LOL

[Yorkshire pud]

Yes, it's unprecedented at the presidential level in modern American history. 

Although Bernie Sanders also registered as a Democrat after years of being a Socialist ''Independent'', just so he could run in their primaries

Keep in mind Trump didn't win a majority of votes in the Republican primaries, which means most Republicans voted for someone else - but that vote was split among 15 other candidates.  Most of his votes in the general election were anti-Hilary votes, from people who were also hopeful he would enact the agenda he ran on.

Serious question: That being the case, in actual numbers, how many people chose him as a candidate?

[K_Dubb]

Serious question: That being the case, in actual numbers, how many people chose him as a candidate?

You don't really get the primary system, do you?

[21st Century Man]

Serious question: That being the case, in actual numbers, how many people chose him as a candidate?

On average 38-43% of Republicans voted for him to be the candidate.  It was much as Paperboy said.  I voted for Cruz in my primary.  I don't know anyone personally who voted for Trump to be the candidate except for my sister-in-law and she had been a liberal Democrat.

[paladin1991]

Can I look for all the 'legal' rapes and murders? My guess is my list will outstrip yours by miles. And how about listing the links of dreamers who have perhaps done good, maybe changed things in a significant way for the greater good? Doctors? Engineers? Teachers? Hey, even some of the rescue parties now working in TX.

How would those numbers stack up when looked at proportionally?  If there are 10,000 rapes amongst a target pop of 300 million (legal citizens) and 10,000 rapes in 10 million illegals (err dreamers?) how does that work out in your Socialist equation?  Are the percentages in the citizens 'favor?'

Doctors, Engineers, Teachers.  Hmmm.  Good question.  I have a good one for you.  Why don't they go back to their home of origin, apply for residency (they'll get a fast track, I'm sure)?  Or, maybe, they should go to their homelands and effect change there so that you can applaud them even harder?  Hell, I'll join you in the applause. 

Rescue parties?  They are just doing what, I believe, comes naturally to most Human beings.  Hell, when I was overseas, we'd level a a city block after 'they'  ambushed us and then go in looking to aid survivors. 

[Dr. MD MD]

NO, the Republican party chose him as their candidate, even though they knew he was a fraud and completely out of his depth. You chose to vote for a rep who was Republican.

Because it would've been political suicide to go against the wishes of the majority of their constituents, WE THE PEOPLE! 

[21st Century Man]

You don't really get the primary system, do you?

I was close.  My figure came from the top of my head.  The 44.9 includes those primaries after everyone else had dropped out so my memory seems to be about right.

[paladin1991]

But you're happy with deporting people who have never known a life outside the USA to a country their parents came from? What about moving that back to say just after the end of WW2?

Want help packing your bags?

[Dr. MD MD]

I don't know anyone personally who voted for Trump to be the candidate except for my sister-in-law and she had been a liberal Democrat.

And yet you remain oblivious to that trend and still think that "the Republicans" won, whatever that means these days.  :

[paladin1991]

I think you'll find the USA traditionally invests itself in other country's business, often unwanted by the population.

You mean like this?


https://youtu.be/SVfBFRBrutY

[Yorkshire pud]

You don't really get the primary system, do you?

Yeah, I just didn't know what percentage he had..I thought it was obviously more than the next highest, I just didn't know what the difference was.

[21st Century Man]

And yet you remain oblivious to that trend and still think that "the Republicans" won, whatever that means these days.  :

I think the Democrats lost. Big difference.  The Republican Party as it is now is represented largely by a bunch of cuckolds.

[Yorkshire pud]

Want help packing your bags?

You better PM the wife and tell her..She might get tetchy...but try by all means. 

[Yorkshire pud]

You mean like this?


https://youtu.be/SVfBFRBrutY

I was thinking the covert stuff... 

[Dr. MD MD]

I think the Democrats lost. Big difference.  The Republican Party as it is now is represented largely by a bunch of cuckolds.

And they lost because they lost support from a BIG segment of their base by alienating us with their identity politics and other sundry bullshit. There's no way in hell I would've voted for a corporate cock sucker like Cruz though.