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Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #58440 on: October 08, 2017, 08:42:03 PM »
You seem to be the only ones who want to keep bringing race up. Gee, I wonder why?  ::)

You have just proven my point about being narrowly educated.  Read it and weep if you can stand it.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/before-charlottesville-democrats-voted-for-racist-policies-for-more-than-100-years/article/2631947

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #58441 on: October 08, 2017, 08:43:18 PM »

Praise KEK! For the God Emperor! Salute to the Meme War Vetrans. Shalady! Even WWII vets didn't do as much as we did.

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #58442 on: October 08, 2017, 08:47:06 PM »
You have just proven my point about being narrowly educated.  Read it and weep if you can stand it.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/before-charlottesville-democrats-voted-for-racist-policies-for-more-than-100-years/article/2631947

Yeah, I with you on that. My comment was directed at numbers, not you. I'm not sure how you got that?  ???


Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #58443 on: October 08, 2017, 08:57:40 PM »
Aren't you your village's idiot?
That might be your diagnosis, doc.

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #58444 on: October 08, 2017, 09:03:27 PM »
Yeah, I with you on that. My comment was directed at numbers, not you. I'm not sure how you got that?  ???

Like most right wingers, Kidnostad3 is an idiot.

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #58445 on: October 08, 2017, 09:06:08 PM »
Our village idiot wrote:
"Of course if we are to believe them, the Democrats aren't sleazy and unethical - they're straight up racist.  Their argument boils down to blacks being either too stupid or too lazy to get an ID.  Of course we don't believe them - we know their true intent is to make illegal voting easier."


These were the serious responses
1.At this point, you bring up the financial argument, that getting the right ID takes money and resources that those in poverty and close to poverty do not have. And the poor are disproportionately nonwhite.

2.My question is, why are we putting in restrictions that are both not needed and also not even address the problem? In-person voter fraud is probably the least common form of voter fraud. It must just be a coincidence that it also helps reduce turnout among certain demographics that are not too friendly to Republicans.

If you want to discourage in-person voter fraud, require a picture be taken of all people trying to vote without an acceptable form of ID. No one is going to try and pull anything if they know you have their picture to use in a facial recognition search after or during the election. Everybody is latching onto photo ID as if it is the only solution. This is a pretty stunning lack of creativity.

Personally, I don't even feel that is necessary. There is no problem of in-person fraud. To me, this is completely for partisan gain and many Republican politicians and operatives have literally admitted as much over the years. None of this should be surprising though. A black Democratic president rides a wave of minorities and young people into office and suddenly voter fraud is a big deal again. Speaking of which, most voter fraud seems to be absentee-related, yet Republicans craving stricter laws often exempt the absentee process entirely, such as in North Carolina, a top-notch example of extreme partisanship gone wrong.

But if conservatives must have some sort of protection, imo, it would be better to go with the picture taking than strict photo ID requirements. In that case, at least it would only be paranoia holding them back rather than an ID requirement.

Listen Glynis,

You make assertions as if you know something others do not.

The biggest opportunity for voter fraud is non-citizens registering and then voting (with or without ID).

You are wrong about conservative stance on absentee voting, but liberal courts have made decision after decision about lengthening the voting process for both absentee and early voting. The democrats have troubles renting that many buses on a single poll day.

The only time democrats want to discourage absentee voting is for deployed military. That is one time I have seen conservatives call for allowing sufficient time and counting every vote. Democrats don’t like it because the military tends to lean towards republicans.

You can not make any claims about whether or not in person fraud is a problem because there is no check to make sure only citizens registered to vote.

Go check your birth certificate and see if the box for “Live Birth” is checked.

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #58446 on: October 08, 2017, 09:11:43 PM »
Yeah, I with you on that. My comment was directed at numbers, not you. I'm not sure how you got that?  ???


Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #58447 on: October 08, 2017, 09:13:19 PM »
Listen Glynis,

You make assertions as if you know something others do not.

The biggest opportunity for voter fraud is non-citizens registering and then voting (with or without ID).

You are wrong about conservative stance on absentee voting, but liberal courts have made decision after decision about lengthening the voting process for both absentee and early voting. The democrats have troubles renting that many buses on a single poll day.

The only time democrats want to discourage absentee voting is for deployed military. That is one time I have seen conservatives call for allowing sufficient time and counting every vote. Democrats don’t like it because the military tends to lean towards republicans.

You can not make any claims about whether or not in person fraud is a problem because there is no check to make sure only citizens registered to vote.

Go check your birth certificate and see if the box for “Live Birth” is checked.

I didn't write that.  I wrote "these were the serious responses I received"

The person who wrote that is very credible. I wondered a couple things myself, but it's not like I'd believe a word from an FSB disinformation officer like yourself before I'd believe that person.

I'm aware various Secretary of State's offices do spot checks of voting after the fact, so you're wrong on that.

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #58448 on: October 08, 2017, 09:13:39 PM »
Like most right wingers, Kidnostad3 is an idiot.

You think that Hippie fuck is "right wing?" OH SHEYAT! Wait until you get a load of what's coming! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! SEIG! KEK! SEIG! KEK!

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #58449 on: October 08, 2017, 09:15:08 PM »
You think that Hippie fuck is "right wing?" OH SHEYAT! Wait until you get a load of what's coming! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! SEIG! KEK! SEIG! KEK!

In order of lunacy and idiocy
1.Right winger/conservative
2.Fascist
3.Nazi

If you're cheering for the Nazis, you're one sick fuck.

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #58450 on: October 08, 2017, 09:16:38 PM »
You have just proven my point about being narrowly educated.  Read it and weep if you can stand it.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/before-charlottesville-democrats-voted-for-racist-policies-for-more-than-100-years/article/2631947

Shit.  I did it again. My post was intended for numbers.  They say that the mind is the first thing to go.  (Thank God.)

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #58451 on: October 08, 2017, 09:17:31 PM »
In order of lunacy and idiocy
1.Right winger/conservative
2.Fascist
3.Nazi

If you're cheering for the Nazis, you're one sick fuck.

Nazi's are LEFT WING dumb fuck!

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #58452 on: October 08, 2017, 09:22:27 PM »
Shit.  I did it again. My post was intended for numbers.  They say that the mind is the first thing to go.  (Thank God.)

This nonsense is nothing I and others don't know.  The comment ended "Byrd!"

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #58453 on: October 08, 2017, 09:23:38 PM »
Nazi's are LEFT WING dumb fuck!

Nazis (no apostrophe) had no real interest in economic theory (at least not after Hitler took them over, but I dispute they had much interest before that even), but they were a more extreme version of fascists, who are right wing.

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #58454 on: October 08, 2017, 09:33:32 PM »
Nazis (no apostrophe) had no real interest in economic theory (at least not after Hitler took them over, but I dispute they had much interest before that even), but they were a more extreme version of fascists, who are right wing.

You stupid Kanuckistan bastard! You don't even know what "Right Wing" is! You have been taught that two versions of Leftist political ideology constitute a global ideological dichotomy! No, fool, Nazi's (fuck your apostrophe hate) were a command & control economic engine designed to favor the monarchical families that lost power after WWI. Communism was it's counterpart to formulate a Hegelian Dialectic.  Right Wing is the USA, pre-War of Northern Aggression. You have a lot of studying to do. How can you make a judgment call between opposing viewpoints when you're mentally brainwashed to view two slightly different versions of leftist thinking as the alpha and omega of political thought? There aren't "two sides" anyway. There are many! The political leanings of those from 8-21 are the most conservative ever recorded. The Baby Boomers are starting to die and the Millennials didn't have kids.  Gen-X is about a 60/40 split between conservative and liberal viewpoints, and they are the only ones that had children. You're about to see the return of something over 150 years old, not something from 75 years ago! Idiot!

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« Reply #58455 on: October 08, 2017, 09:36:53 PM »
Nazis (no apostrophe) had no real interest in economic theory (at least not after Hitler took them over, but I dispute they had much interest before that even), but they were a more extreme version of fascists, who are right wing.
Like many things the issue is complicated and changed over time. And in certain extremes or situations some folks can make strange bedfellows in politics. But no economic theory or thoughts?  You never heard of Strasser(s)? Or Hjalmar Schacht? Or Darré (he was a forerunner to the green-style lefties of today?) Or Fiche, Feder, etc etc? There was a lot of factionalism and fights, and eventually purges, between the more leftist and conservative/corporatist elements within the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. Though more, so far, violent in what can be seen in the Democrat Party to an extent (nomination election 'fixing,' far-left roots criticizing more corporately oriented and older controllers, fundraisers with deep pockets and even foreign funds and influences, attacking people, looting/burning, etc.) Or in the Republican Party with the more populist and/or, depending on the year, conservative Tea Party, Trump, etc.

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #58456 on: October 08, 2017, 09:37:01 PM »
Nazis (no apostrophe) had no real interest in economic theory (at least not after Hitler took them over, but I dispute they had much interest before that even), but they were a more extreme version of fascists, who are right wing.

This article disputes your disputation.   As a practical matter, there wasn’t a nickels worth of difference between Hitler and Stalin.  Be sure to read all the way to the bottom.

http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/politics/ideology-politics/difference-between-socialism-and-fascism/

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #58457 on: October 08, 2017, 09:47:32 PM »
Our village idiot wrote:
"Of course if we are to believe them, the Democrats aren't sleazy and unethical - they're straight up racist.  Their argument boils down to blacks being either too stupid or too lazy to get an ID.  Of course we don't believe them - we know their true intent is to make illegal voting easier."


These were the serious responses
1.At this point, you bring up the financial argument, that getting the right ID takes money and resources that those in poverty and close to poverty do not have. And the poor are disproportionately nonwhite.

2.My question is, why are we putting in restrictions that are both not needed and also not even address the problem? In-person voter fraud is probably the least common form of voter fraud. It must just be a coincidence that it also helps reduce turnout among certain demographics that are not too friendly to Republicans.

If you want to discourage in-person voter fraud, require a picture be taken of all people trying to vote without an acceptable form of ID. No one is going to try and pull anything if they know you have their picture to use in a facial recognition search after or during the election. Everybody is latching onto photo ID as if it is the only solution. This is a pretty stunning lack of creativity.

Personally, I don't even feel that is necessary. There is no problem of in-person fraud. To me, this is completely for partisan gain and many Republican politicians and operatives have literally admitted as much over the years. None of this should be surprising though. A black Democratic president rides a wave of minorities and young people into office and suddenly voter fraud is a big deal again. Speaking of which, most voter fraud seems to be absentee-related, yet Republicans craving stricter laws often exempt the absentee process entirely, such as in North Carolina, a top-notch example of extreme partisanship gone wrong.

But if conservatives must have some sort of protection, imo, it would be better to go with the picture taking than strict photo ID requirements. In that case, at least it would only be paranoia holding them back rather than an ID requirement.

Not impressed.  You implied these oh so credible posters were going to have something other than the usual tired drivel.    Geez I could write better excuses for why we shouldn't require any documentation to register or vote than this junk.

My favorite part is where she tells us which types of voter fraud are more and less common.  Here all this time I thought the argument is there isn't any.

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #58458 on: October 08, 2017, 09:48:22 PM »
You do realize your electroshock therapy doesn't work and isn't meant to, right?  They just like doing it to you.

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #58459 on: October 08, 2017, 09:53:05 PM »
Not impressed.  You implied these oh so credible posters were going to have something other than the usual tired drivel.    Geez I could write better excuses for why we shouldn't require any documentation to register or vote than this junk.

My favorite part is where she tells us which types of voter fraud are more and less common.  Here all this time I thought the argument is there isn't any.

No, you couldn't come up with better excuses, you're a hopeless retard.

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #58460 on: October 08, 2017, 09:55:18 PM »
This nonsense is nothing I and others don't know.  The comment ended "Byrd!"

You're right of course.  Long time Democrat Senator Robert Byrd got his start in politics as a recruiter for the Klu Klux Klan, and was a leader of his local chapter.  He was one of the Democrat Senators filibustering the Civil Rights Acts.

Other Democrats, such as the Kennedys, had no problem sharing a party with the Klan.  The party has always used race to divide the country, and continues to do so - including using race as an excuse to leave our voter registration system unsecure so their illegal alien mascots can vote.

You should add ''Byrd'' to the end of all your posts, as a reminder of who your handlers are.

Byrd

Re: President Donald J. Trump
« Reply #58461 on: October 08, 2017, 09:55:38 PM »
Not impressed.  You implied these oh so credible posters were going to have something other than the usual tired drivel.    Geez I could write better excuses for why we shouldn't require any documentation to register or vote than this junk.

My favorite part is where she tells us which types of voter fraud are more and less common.  Here all this time I thought the argument is there isn't any.

Also, poor people don't have ID?! If they're really that poor they're most likely on government assistance of some sort and would therefore most likely have some form of ID. Moot point.

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« Reply #58462 on: October 08, 2017, 09:56:47 PM »
Like many things the issue is complicated and changed over time. And in certain extremes or situations some folks can make strange bedfellows in politics. But no economic theory or thoughts?  You never heard of Strasser(s)? Or Hjalmar Schacht? Or Darré (he was a forerunner to the green-style lefties of today?) Or Fiche, Feder, etc etc? There was a lot of factionalism and fights, and eventually purges, between the more leftist and conservative/corporatist elements within the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. Though in not, so far, as violent what can be seen in the Democrat Party to an extent (nomination election 'fixing,' far-left roots criticizing more corporately oriented and older controllers, fundraisers with deep pockets and even foreign funds and influences, etc.) Or in the Republican Party with the more populist and/or, depending on the year, conservative Tea Party, Trump, etc.

I'm not all that familiar with them. After Hitler took over the Nazi Party, they ceased having any practical interest in economics because he had no interest in economics.  I dispute that they had much interest prior to that, they were a fairly small fascist party.

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« Reply #58463 on: October 08, 2017, 09:58:13 PM »
No, you couldn't come up with better excuses, you're a hopeless retard.

At least you admit they're just a bunch of excuses.

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« Reply #58464 on: October 08, 2017, 10:01:43 PM »
You're right of course.  Long time Democrat Senator Robert Byrd got his start in politics as a recruiter for the Klu Klux Klan, and was a leader of his local chapter.  He was one of the Democrat Senators filibustering the Civil Rights Acts.

Other Democrats, such as the Kennedys, had no problem sharing a party with the Klan.  The party has always used race to divide the country, and continues to do so - including using race as an excuse to leave our voter registration system unsecure so their illegal alien mascots can vote.

You should add ''Byrd'' to the end of all your posts, as a reminder of who your handlers are.

Byrd

And now the RepubliKKKans are supported by the 'alt right' racists, you hopeless retard.

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« Reply #58465 on: October 08, 2017, 10:02:24 PM »
At least you admit they're just a bunch of excuses.

Excuses, explanations...

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« Reply #58466 on: October 08, 2017, 10:04:00 PM »
And now the RepubliKKKans are supported by the 'alt right' racists, you hopeless retard.

transparent propaganda that any reasonable person sees through.  ;)

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« Reply #58467 on: October 08, 2017, 10:06:18 PM »
I'm not all that familiar with them. After Hitler took over the Nazi Party, they ceased having any practical interest in economics because he had no interest in economics.  I dispute that they had much interest prior to that, they were a fairly small fascist party.
Tell that to Schacht, Rienhardt, Strasser(s) etc or the companies, dynastys, and families involved (some of whom are still very large industrial/chemical concerns) or had companies/land taken or tax- or, on the other hand, were given large government contracts and free prison labor. Famous historian Shirer  (who talks about all the redtape and regulations and how anti-freemarket Hitler and the policies were. Sound familiar?,) or the many commentators and/or leaders, bankers, historians who write, or lead, the economic policies. NAZIs initial popularity and early success was due to economic and social welfare policy and rhetoric but there were internal divisions and other disputes, especially once reaching national prominence.

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« Reply #58468 on: October 08, 2017, 10:11:18 PM »
This article disputes your disputation.   As a practical matter, there wasn’t a nickels worth of difference between Hitler and Stalin.  Be sure to read all the way to the bottom.

http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/politics/ideology-politics/difference-between-socialism-and-fascism/

The only problem with that article is that it relies on the political science definition of socialism, which is the 'incomplete' version of Communism before the utopian 'withering away of the state' was supposed to occur.  The economic definition of 'socialism' which is the practical definition, is broadly 'a mixed economy' or, more specifically, the type of economic system as implemented by Lenin with his New Economic Policy and by Clement Atlee in the U.K after World War II.  Lenin described it as government ownership of the economic 'Commanding Heights.' 

that article does not provide a comparison to Fascism and the economic definition of Socialism.

I think in this regard it's hard to say if Stalin and Hitler were similar or not because as soon as Hitler took power, he placed the German economy on a war footing, which meant an expanded role for the government in terms of spending and in terms of government directing private business.  What the Nazis economic policies would have been in peace time, who can say?

In regards to Hitler and Stalin, they were both brutal and evil dictators.  Hitler is considered by credible historians as being a right wing extremist, while Stalin is considered to be a left wing extremist.

If by 'reading to the bottom' you meant 'read the comments'  I did not do that.  Comment sections on most of these forums (I didn't look at this one) experience the same 'used lemon' problem that George Akerloff explained.

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« Reply #58469 on: October 08, 2017, 10:13:43 PM »
Tell that to Schacht, Rienhardt, Strasser(s) etc or the companies, dynastys, and families involved (some of whom are still very large industrial/chemical concerns) or had companies/land taken or tax- or, on the other hand, were given large government contracts and free prison labor. Famous historian Shirer  (who talks about all the redtape and regulations and how anti-freemarket Hitler and the policies were. Sound familiar?,) or the many commentators and/or leaders, bankers, historians who write, or lead, the economic policies. NAZIs initial popularity and early success was due to economic and social welfare policy and rhetoric but there were internal divisions and other disputes, especially once reaching national prominence.

I addressed that in my post addressed to Kidnostad.  Immediately after gaining power, the Nazis placed the German economy on a war footing.  I don't think that can be compared with a peace time economy.