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« Reply #450 on: February 24, 2011, 06:12:52 PM »
suspected killer, alleged gun man ... I have to think that's just semantics. I don't think anyone doubts his guilt. He's obviously insane

Agreed.  I believe that I may have been going through a light bout of second-hand PTSD, contacted through my relation to the community and some of the people involved. Feeling better now.

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« Reply #451 on: February 24, 2011, 06:56:23 PM »
onan ... i have to agree with you.  responsibly used/prescribed ... antidepressants/anxiolytics/etc can be extremely helpful. 

however, i knew a couple girls who got prescriptions for clonazepam and were popping it like Pez candy.  mixing it with booze.  and they had no business being on that med in the first place.  it was prescribed by a general practitioner who clearly wasn't doing anything to monitor how they were using their meds.  it was like they had bottomless refills.  i think that someone eventually wised up to what they were doing and shutdown their party train.  frankly i don't see how they were able to function.  it was a little scary.  i told them what they were doing was pretty damn dangerous

Yeah, it happens and too often. People in general the lay people have no idea how dangerous benzodiazepines (the anxiolytics) can be. Withdrawing from a benzo can be more dangerous than withdrawing from an opiate. The problem is not so much an errant doctor as it is people doctor shopping. It is nearly impossible to keep track of 3 doctors from 10 nearby towns all seeing the same patient who just recently lost their (pick your family member or pet) loved one. Compound that with multiple drug stores all trying to beat their bottom line and blammo.

But the point of the previous posts was (as I took it) the time bomb that antidepressants appear to be. That is just plainly and painfully misinformed thinking.

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« Reply #452 on: February 24, 2011, 11:12:30 PM »
It isnt popular to post the supposition that medicine may be better served with a socialist point of view on a mostly libertarian forum but so be it. Like it or not it is true. Mental illness does not lend well to those that can hold down jobs, forget the high paying ones.
it might surprise you, but i agree with you totally on the value of socialized medicine.  i think it has a place along with our capitalistic system.  i just don't want people to be forced to participate in that system if they would rather go the private route and pay for care themselves... without government interference.


we can talk about "personal responsibility" and all of that law-and-order shit until we're blue in the face, but how is a nut supposed to find and keep a job that pays well enough and provides insurance benefits that are sufficient to sustain treatment for psychological issues?  hell, it's probably common for people to lose their jobs shortly after their employer learns of the ongoing treatment of their condition.  "johnson, i want you to fire him.  we don't need a nut working for us."


for whatever reason, we place very little emphasis on treating psychological afflictions in this country.  see all those homeless people digging around for garbage in your city?  those people would have been committed to a nut house only a few decades ago.  at some point, in the name of compassion or civil rights, we stopped doing that.  well, i don't see a lot of compassion in letting a schizophrenic dig through a dumpster just because he's too bat-shit crazy to have a job.


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« Reply #453 on: February 25, 2011, 12:31:38 AM »
agreed. you can thank Reagan for that


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« Reply #454 on: February 25, 2011, 12:34:58 AM »
I am not sure what the nonsense is. I have to say I am quite impressed that number of protesters showed up. It isn't an issue summed up in a sound bite. It gives me some hope that perhaps people aren't as acquiescent as I have posited so many times.


audio (scroll down) of Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker being duped by a alt press blogger/publisher posing as a Koch


http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/02/scott-walker-koch-brother-crank-call-wisconsin




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« Reply #455 on: February 25, 2011, 12:39:40 AM »
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/25/nyregion/25roger-ailes.html?_r=1&hp

roger ailes - this months human shit pile.  joe barton has previously been shit pile of the month

former nixon heading fox news.  fair and balanced my ass

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« Reply #456 on: February 25, 2011, 02:37:14 PM »
i'm sick of this stupid, formulaic approach to reality shows where the intro rolls and proceeds to show the participants, all with angry faces, standing with their arms crossed like tough guys.  fucking wankers.

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« Reply #457 on: February 25, 2011, 03:56:33 PM »
i'm sick of this stupid, formulaic approach to reality shows where the intro rolls and proceeds to show the participants, all with angry faces, standing with their arms crossed like tough guys.  fucking wankers.

Deadliest Catch has been doing that since day one. It's for a change.

Along that line-
Commercials that use played out mainstream songs to hype their products.

George Noory and E-Foods direct. "This food is so good. Without a doubt this is the best food I have eaten."

The little icon at the bottom of the TV screen letting you know about some new series or show that debuts in 5 months.

All the yuppie women in commercials. For once I'd like to see a metal chick instead of some yuppie woman with a pixie cut talking like she's 16.

TV pisses me off anymore!


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« Reply #458 on: February 25, 2011, 05:24:55 PM »
Deadliest Catch has been doing that since day one. It's for a change.
what's even worse is that the screen capture above is not from deadliest catch.  it's from a copy-cat show called "swords"... as in sword fish.  bleh.

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« Reply #459 on: February 27, 2011, 06:33:42 AM »

<<<<<<<<< the beat kinda goes with da gif <<<<<<<<<

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« Reply #460 on: February 27, 2011, 12:28:42 PM »
very cool.  Cash rules

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« Reply #461 on: February 27, 2011, 02:57:37 PM »
Damn this thread is still hot.  I am sick of the high price we are charged for tv internet all of it. What the fuck? And digital air tv sucks. Thanks for netflix and orb.

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« Reply #462 on: February 27, 2011, 06:07:50 PM »
Yeah, it happens and too often. People in general the lay people have no idea how dangerous benzodiazepines (the anxiolytics) can be. Withdrawing from a benzo can be more dangerous than withdrawing from an opiate. The problem is not so much an errant doctor as it is people doctor shopping. It is nearly impossible to keep track of 3 doctors from 10 nearby towns all seeing the same patient who just recently lost their (pick your family member or pet) loved one. Compound that with multiple drug stores all trying to beat their bottom line and blammo.

Meanwhile, for every one of these stories, there's a patient with a legitimate ailment who finds it next to impossible to get the medicine they need.  My girlfriend has ADD, but getting a prescription from her doctor is a ridiculous ordeal involving two weeks of tormenting his secretary for an appointment.  And then finding a pharmacist that carries adderall took a few more days of phone calls, and then starts the three-way dance between the pharmacist, the insurance company, and the doctor's office again, debating on whether it's covered.  Finally after two weeks of this the pharmacist lost the prescription and now my girlfriend looks like a drug abuser going back and trying to get a second prescription.

This is bullshit.  This is why I think everything should be made available over-the-counter!

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« Reply #463 on: February 27, 2011, 06:26:52 PM »
Meanwhile, for every one of these stories, there's a patient with a legitimate ailment who finds it next to impossible to get the medicine they need.  My girlfriend has ADD, but getting a prescription from her doctor is a ridiculous ordeal involving two weeks of tormenting his secretary for an appointment.  And then finding a pharmacist that carries adderall took a few more days of phone calls, and then starts the three-way dance between the pharmacist, the insurance company, and the doctor's office again, debating on whether it's covered.  Finally after two weeks of this the pharmacist lost the prescription and now my girlfriend looks like a drug abuser going back and trying to get a second prescription.

This is bullshit.  This is why I think everything should be made available over-the-counter!

You make a very good point. And to make it even better I have a similar story... I took a perscription to my pharmacy a few years back for a similar medication and guess what? When I went to pick the Rx up I was asked if I had actually left the perscription with them. When I irritatedly said of course I was, they acted like they had never gotten it. I had to threaten to get the police to take a look at the camera recordings before they agreed to write a letter to my physician to request another perscription. Yeah that crap happens too.

I will stop short of suggesting all drugs should be available to all customers. Although I think that is appropriate in most cases the complications of multiple medications is extremely serious. Too serious for the lay person to manage. Also certain physical impairments make drugs react differently in certain populations. But no one should be suffering from any condition because of pathetic beauracracies... I wish you and your girlfriend a much smoother path.













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« Reply #464 on: February 28, 2011, 02:16:48 AM »
Damn this thread is still hot. 
Yup. I told u u had a hit on your hands with this one. Personally, this is my favorite thread.

Sent from my Droid X.

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« Reply #465 on: February 28, 2011, 03:03:39 PM »
     Congressman David Wu, from Oregon.   
Ore. congressman says mental health not a job issue
"I'm tiger now."


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« Reply #466 on: February 28, 2011, 03:46:24 PM »
     Congressman David Wu, from Oregon.   
Ore. congressman says mental health not a job issue
"I'm tiger now."




why is it that some can get away with this, and some cannot?  can you imagine a scenario now where we could have a president who didn't have half his brain fried on drugs from "youthful indiscretion"?  Improbable.

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« Reply #467 on: February 28, 2011, 03:55:09 PM »

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« Reply #468 on: February 28, 2011, 08:15:06 PM »
     Congressman David Wu, from Oregon.   
Ore. congressman says mental health not a job issue
"I'm tiger now."

Keep Portland Weird!

Like the guy I saw today waving a furniture store liquidation sale sign whilst wearing a Hannibal Lecter mask. 

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« Reply #469 on: March 01, 2011, 06:30:14 AM »



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« Reply #470 on: March 01, 2011, 01:44:25 PM »
Why do people buy into the bullshit of health food store supplementations? Bee pollen, apple cider vinegar, chlorophyll (powdered greens), royal jelly, chelation, kombucha tea, colloidal silver, algae, etc. You can't have a rational conversation with proponents of this quackery. Even though most of these products have had little to no research to back up the often extraordinary claims. And some are deadly, like colloidal silver. I just don't get it. What's the pathology of these people? 

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« Reply #471 on: March 01, 2011, 01:48:50 PM »
Why do people buy into the bullshit of health food store supplementations? Bee pollen, apple cider vinegar, chlorophyll (powdered greens), royal jelly, chelation, kombucha tea, colloidal silver, algae, etc. You can't have a rational conversation with proponents of this quackery. Even though most of these products have had little to no research to back up the often extraordinary claims. And some are deadly, like colloidal silver. I just don't get it. What's the pathology of these people?

It can derive from a mental pathology whereby anything "mainstream" is suspect, and anything "fringe" is somehow more effective.
 
Let's call it the "Snakeoil Pathology". 

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« Reply #472 on: March 01, 2011, 01:54:21 PM »

It can derive from a mental pathology whereby anything "mainstream" is suspect, and anything "fringe" is somehow more effective.
 
Let's call it the "Snakeoil Pathology". 

I like it. And you're right, it usually goes hand in hand with people who think mainstream medicine is all a conspiracy, fluoride is used to placate the masses, and vaccines cause autism (which they would never accept for their own children yet are happy to benefit from near-eradication of diseases on the backs of everyone else's children).

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« Reply #473 on: March 01, 2011, 03:33:09 PM »
Why do people buy into the bullshit of health food store supplementations? Bee pollen, apple cider vinegar, chlorophyll (powdered greens), royal jelly, chelation, kombucha tea, colloidal silver, algae, etc. You can't have a rational conversation with proponents of this quackery. Even though most of these products have had little to no research to back up the often extraordinary claims. And some are deadly, like colloidal silver. I just don't get it. What's the pathology of these people?


I've seen people drink this stuff like it was water.  They could become a candidate for the blue man group.

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« Reply #474 on: March 01, 2011, 04:10:25 PM »

It can derive from a mental pathology whereby anything "mainstream" is suspect, and anything "fringe" is somehow more effective.
 
Let's call it the "Snakeoil Pathology". 

I see similar thinking in "fringe" political thinking. Obama care has death panels. Taxes are destroyinig our freedom.

Carl Sagan in his book the Dragons of Eden stated it best. And I paraphrase "most people are more willing to believe than to learn".

But yes we have always had snake oil salesmen. Steve Allen comedian popular in the 50's and 60's once said something to the effect: "The reason we do not become more enlightened is because every 20 years we raise a new bunch of dummies" certainly a truism.


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« Reply #475 on: March 01, 2011, 04:21:24 PM »

I've seen people drink this stuff like it was water.  They could become a candidate for the blue man group.

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« Reply #476 on: March 01, 2011, 04:43:09 PM »
I see similar thinking in "fringe" political thinking. Obama care has death panels. Taxes are destroyinig our freedom.

Carl Sagan in his book the Dragons of Eden stated it best. And I paraphrase "most people are more willing to believe than to learn".

But yes we have always had snake oil salesmen. Steve Allen comedian popular in the 50's and 60's once said something to the effect: "The reason we do not become more enlightened is because every 20 years we raise a new bunch of dummies" certainly a truism.


... and even fewer able to understand.

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« Reply #477 on: March 01, 2011, 05:06:20 PM »
I 'believe' in a lot of alternative medicine.  Because it works.
It has worked for me anyway.  Vitmans, herbs, & natural remedies often work better than drugs.
Don't forget, most medicines come from plants, fungi, etc... Natural sources.
But I don't mind being called a 'fringe thinker,' though.  So no harm there.

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« Reply #478 on: March 01, 2011, 05:55:44 PM »
I 'believe' in a lot of alternative medicine.  Because it works.
It has worked for me anyway.  Vitmans, herbs, & natural remedies often work better than drugs.
Don't forget, most medicines come from plants, fungi, etc... Natural sources.
But I don't mind being called a 'fringe thinker,' though.  So no harm there.


I don't think we are talking with that much of a broad brush.  I take vitamin supplements every day, and even Melatonin as an occasional sleep aid.  We're referring to people who partake of natural remedies, and have absolutely no scientific basis to believe that the substance is effective, or safe, at any quantity.  Some natural remedies become more of a substantive placebo rather than a proven, safe alternative to mainstream medicine.  For some, the more doubt surrounding a remedy, the more attractive it is.

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« Reply #479 on: March 01, 2011, 06:17:33 PM »
i haven't seen anything about colloidal silver (research wise) that makes me think people need to be using it. i don't see silver as a fringe supplement.  i see it as a 'bereft of sense' supplement.  vitamins and herbs - at recommended daily dosages - are a good idea.  but colloidal silver?  wahhhhhhhh?