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Re: 1000s Guns Seized
« Reply #1980 on: May 09, 2019, 07:07:48 PM »
Aren't some of those grandfathered via "curio" laws? Or maybe he held Class III but I guess not considering the raid. Still one anonymous caller results in this kind of raid? Highly suspect, if true. It could be the call lead to deeper investigation and surveillance that THEN resulted in a warrant a raid/seizure. Though I still have some problems with an anonymous caller starting the process, if that is indeed what happened. Also, isn't there some kind of "ex post facto" protection via Article 1, Section 9 Constitutionally if some of his collection was deemed illegal after his initial possession/purchase?

California does not allow ownership of full auto for citizens as well as a few other liberal states. I am not sure on how the grandfathering of non full auto "assault weapons" worked in California. But California did allow new AR15 ownership through legal loopholes, like having a permanently attached 10 round magazine and no pistol grip. All of which was easy to unfuck after buying it and was very easy to do.

example of ways you could neuter your "assault weapon" and be legal








Re: Guns
« Reply #1981 on: June 02, 2019, 10:01:37 PM »

Re: 1000s Guns Seized
« Reply #1982 on: June 03, 2019, 09:18:22 AM »
California does not allow ownership of full auto for citizens as well as a few other liberal states. I am not sure on how the grandfathering of non full auto "assault weapons" worked in California. But California did allow new AR15 ownership through legal loopholes, like having a permanently attached 10 round magazine and no pistol grip. All of which was easy to unfuck after buying it and was very easy to do.

example of ways you could neuter your "assault weapon" and be legal









How do you load rounds into a "permanently attached magazine"?  Through the ejection port with the bolt carrier group locked in the open chamber position, or what?





Re: 1000s Guns Seized
« Reply #1984 on: June 10, 2019, 05:47:02 PM »
How do you load rounds into a "permanently attached magazine"?  Through the ejection port with the bolt carrier group locked in the open chamber position, or what?



On an AR15 you press out the rear take down pin fold barrel down and put round into the mag from the top.



Re: Guns
« Reply #1985 on: June 28, 2019, 11:04:44 AM »

Re: Guns
« Reply #1986 on: June 28, 2019, 09:29:09 PM »
What kind of guns are these where they wear th eammo around their necks?  Does the ammo feed in like thread on a bobbin in a sewing machine?

And what's that pointy Tiffany-blue thing?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-06-27/the-fashion-photographer-who-duped-drug-cartels-and-the-dea?utm_source=pocket-newtab

Re: Guns
« Reply #1987 on: June 28, 2019, 09:37:43 PM »
What kind of guns are these where they wear th eammo around their necks?  Does the ammo feed in like thread on a bobbin in a sewing machine?

And what's that pointy Tiffany-blue thing?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-06-27/the-fashion-photographer-who-duped-drug-cartels-and-the-dea?utm_source=pocket-newtab

Looks like a Russian PKM they are belt fed and the rounds are held together with a belt you can buy here https://ammunitionstore.com/products/7-62x54r-ammo-belt-pkm-machine-gun-100-round.html

>what's that pointy Tiffany-blue thing?

idk, a dildo?


Re: Guns
« Reply #1988 on: June 28, 2019, 09:58:41 PM »
The blue thing seems to be a RPG fragmentation grenade 




Re: Guns
« Reply #1989 on: June 28, 2019, 11:21:14 PM »
Looks like a Russian PKM they are belt fed and the rounds are held together with a belt you can buy here https://ammunitionstore.com/products/7-62x54r-ammo-belt-pkm-machine-gun-100-round.html

>what's that pointy Tiffany-blue thing?

idk, a dildo?


How long have these belt fed guns existed?  Good if you need to kill a pack of wolves.  Googling U.S. wolf attacks very an eye opener.  I guess many people, mostly men, have lived to kill 10 or 12 wolves, only to be killed by the 11th or 13th one.  Unbelievable.  Kind of makes you appreciate guns, especially since the wolf population is rising.  I guess coyotes packing aren't always casual, either.  And now they are interbred!  So God only knows what you get.

Re: Guns
« Reply #1990 on: June 28, 2019, 11:30:01 PM »
http:/www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=2VwSb23oeW8https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=2VwSb23oeW8

Around 0:59 it looks fake because the ammo belt isn't moving.

Weird how some of these types of guns have fire coming out, but other just smoke.

Re: Guns
« Reply #1991 on: June 29, 2019, 11:28:34 PM »
http:/www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=2VwSb23oeW8https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=2VwSb23oeW8

Around 0:59 it looks fake because the ammo belt isn't moving.

Weird how some of these types of guns have fire coming out, but other just smoke.

>Around 0:59 it looks fake because the ammo belt isn't moving.

The gun is not even firing and the guy is clearing a jam

>Weird how some of these types of guns have fire coming out, but other just smoke.

It's a caliber/barrel length thing. The PKM fires a full size cartage 7.62x54r there is a lot of powder in it. The 7.62x54r was originally made for the Mosin Nagant bolt action rife with a 30" barrel. The PKM has about a 25" barrel but the barrels in the video are shorter than that probably around 20".

So when the round goes off and the powder is continuing to burn after the bullet leaves the barrel and you get a lot of flash. If it was being shot out of a longer barrel most of the powder would be burnt before the bullet left the barrel producing much less of a flash. Some guns like AK's and AR's have flash hiders that create turbulence of the gasses leaving the barrel to cut down on the flash.

An AR15 chambered in 5.56 (smaller intermediate cartridge) with a 16" barrel is going to flash without a flash hider. But an AR15 chambered is 9mm (dinky pistol cartridge) will not flash at all even without a flash hider. Because all of the powder has been burnt before the bullet exits the end of the barrel.

Size comparison, 9mm is smaller than the .40S&W in the picture




Re: Guns
« Reply #1992 on: June 30, 2019, 12:03:53 AM »
The Obrez is a Mosin Nagant rifle chambered in 7.62x54r with the barrel cut off to about 6"




Re: Guns
« Reply #1993 on: June 30, 2019, 12:14:37 AM »
The Obrez is a Mosin Nagant rifle chambered in 7.62x54r with the barrel cut off to about 6"





My God!  My M-N carbine is a serious shoulder thumper, I can not imagine what the recoil on a cut down version like the Obrez must be. 

Re: Guns
« Reply #1994 on: June 30, 2019, 03:11:12 AM »
>Around 0:59 it looks fake because the ammo belt isn't moving.

The gun is not even firing and the guy is clearing a jam

>Weird how some of these types of guns have fire coming out, but other just smoke.

It's a caliber/barrel length thing. The PKM fires a full size cartage 7.62x54r there is a lot of powder in it. The 7.62x54r was originally made for the Mosin Nagant bolt action rife with a 30" barrel. The PKM has about a 25" barrel but the barrels in the video are shorter than that probably around 20".

So when the round goes off and the powder is continuing to burn after the bullet leaves the barrel and you get a lot of flash. If it was being shot out of a longer barrel most of the powder would be burnt before the bullet left the barrel producing much less of a flash. Some guns like AK's and AR's have flash hiders that create turbulence of the gasses leaving the barrel to cut down on the flash.

An AR15 chambered in 5.56 (smaller intermediate cartridge) with a 16" barrel is going to flash without a flash hider. But an AR15 chambered is 9mm (dinky pistol cartridge) will not flash at all even without a flash hider. Because all of the powder has been burnt before the bullet exits the end of the barrel.

Size comparison, 9mm is smaller than the .40S&W in the picture


Good to know.  I think  ;).

Re: Guns
« Reply #1995 on: July 16, 2019, 01:17:14 AM »
This is why we guns.

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Tuolumne County, California – Deputies with the Tuolumne County Sheriff’s Office (TCSO) were called out to Deadman’s Campground in Stanislaus National Forrest to a report of a possible shooting at around 2 a.m. Tuesday morning.

When they arrived, deputies found a man dead inside the tent of a couple who said they have no idea who he is. The man was shot after he entered the couple’s tent at around 2 a.m. The woman awakened with the strange 36-year-old man from Watsonville on top of her.

https://california.concealedcarry.com/2019/07/15/ca-tent-intruder-killed-at-deadmans-campground/