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Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« on: September 09, 2019, 01:11:05 PM »
Spring 2018 interview with Michael Decon: says that she first met Art at Ramona's funeral which was January 5, 2006 (Karen mistakenly says "January 2005")
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1HhEXQWZmQV
Fall 2018 interview: claims she's been "Art's gatekeeper for 14 years" ie since 2004
https://vocaroo.com/i/s10vdUeNglhT
Let's say she's bad at math and/or remembering dates does it seem plausible Art would appoint somebody he had never met(despite living in the same town) and had only talked to on the phone a "couple of times" as his family's spokesperson/gatekeeper?

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2019, 01:32:35 PM »
Interview on KTOX
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1OxnPREABgQ
States that Heather was saying in interviews that her and Art were having "a torrid lengthy affair" when pressed by the show's host she claims that it was on other shows, and says that she was told this by others

I have never heard her say anything about "a torrid lengthy affair" in any interview.  Does anybody else remember her making such claims? I'm guessing she either made it up herself or was gamed into saying it by a listener

Airyn's statement: "And lastly, think whatever you want, but in the long run, you are just stirring things up, all you do when you spread unsubstantiated rumors is make it harder for my family and hurt us. I donít have time for this insanity. I have two kids to raise and real-life problems to deal with."
rumors plural. One which Heather spread, one which she did not

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2019, 01:59:31 PM »
The stalker
Karen's account: man pops up in Art's window brandishing a shotgun while the show is on
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1irS8H5MK9B
Karen: "..there's a window in the studio right by where he sits and there was the man in the window with a shotgun..."
Interviewer: "Oh While he was on the air? While he was on the air?"
Karen: "Yeah, while Art was on the air"

Art's account Feb 4 2016 Gabcast:
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1pWDz6ebqfa
no shotgun wielding window stalker mentioned


Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2019, 02:15:46 PM »


Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2019, 03:10:05 PM »
Karen came across like a real fucking weirdo. Post show.

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2019, 03:58:16 PM »
The stalker
Karen's account: man pops up in Art's window brandishing a shotgun while the show is on
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1irS8H5MK9B
Karen: "..there's a window in the studio right by where he sits and there was the man in the window with a shotgun..."
Interviewer: "Oh While he was on the air? While he was on the air?"
Karen: "Yeah, while Art was on the air"

Art's account Feb 4 2016 Gabcast:
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1pWDz6ebqfa
no shotgun wielding window stalker mentioned

bingo! the shotgun wielding man story defies all reason and logic. unfortunately, Karen has totally discredited herself with bizarre and unsubstantiated story. i could be wrong.

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2019, 06:06:52 PM »
You guys are missing the point.  Nobody is saying Karen was an eyewitness, so a charitable interpretation would have her relaying events as told to her by Art.

It strongly suggests that there are now at least two versions of the story where Art saw a prowler outside the studio and almost shot him before he escaped over the fence -- the closest match, since that's the only time IIRC that Art says he saw the guy.  It's tantalizing to speculate that Karen told an early version Art tried out before he went public with it and that Karen told it plain, never dreaming Art had already contradicted it.

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2019, 09:53:16 PM »
...so a charitable interpretation would...
Perhaps so. But a realistic interpretation would be that Art attracted the nut-cases. :)

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2019, 10:41:42 PM »
im almost certain that Karen said she SAW the shotgun wielding man. i could be wrong.

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2019, 11:30:02 PM »
im almost certain that Karen said she SAW the shotgun wielding man. i could be wrong.

i just re-listened to Karen's story, it's completely different than Art's version. She claims to have seen the shotgun wielding man. he allegedly jumped out of his vehicle holding a shotgun in front of Karen at the KNYE mailbox, then allegedly sped off to Art's house and pounded on his door. shotgun man is allegedly short, overweight with flowing white hair. also, unfortunately, i don't find her version of events to be credible.

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2019, 11:36:53 PM »
i just re-listened to Karen's story, it's completely different than Art's version. She claims to have seen the shotgun wielding man. he allegedly jumped out of his vehicle holding a shotgun in front of Karen at the KNYE mailbox, then allegedly sped off to Art's house and pounded on his door. shotgun man is allegedly short, overweight with flowing white hair. also, unfortunately, i don't find her version of events to be credible.

Clearly.... Some Nibba is lying.

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2019, 02:52:26 AM »
Perhaps so. But a realistic interpretation would be that Art attracted the nut-cases. :)

I find your cavalier dismissal of Ms. Jackson's testimony disturbing.  Though any effort to harmonize the accounts founders on the rock of objectivity, there is still valuable information to be gleaned.

Her story about being confronted at the station (the only eyewitness part) by the same guy who later banged on Art's door (an inference) did not figure in Art's narrative, and there is fertile ground for speculation here as to why it may have been omitted.  In contrast with the stories Art made public, the primary difference is that this was a face-to-face encounter with an identifiable person.

If the man in the window (in Karen's retelling) is, indeed, an earlier version, one can sense the operation of that same reluctance to identify a suspect that figured in Art's failure to get a restraining order, among other things, which transformed the stalker from a known fat old white guy to a shadowy ninja easily clearing a 5-foot fence in the dark.

Leaving aside the question of truth for a moment, one can evaluate the stories as myth-making:  Art was always more comfortable in the realm of the mysterious.  His UFO is distant, its occupants unseen and intentions unclear.  His red eyes exist suspended in nothingness.  His ouija board is unbearably frightening but mute.  No 10-foot Pleiadians peddling planetary salvation for him.

In contrast, Karen's threat is concrete, identifiable, and not terribly scary -- if she could get her car around the guy's, through the gate, and close it behind her with the guy still stuck yelling outside, he's awfully slow and bumbly.  This is the sort of guy who (no trespasser he!) might very well go up to Art's door and ring the bell.

Still in the realm of myth, if the man seen in the window is the same as the figure jumping over the fence, one can see how a story with origins in the real world is transformed according to Art's demonstrated personal preference for the nameless unknown.  And loopy, penny-finding Karen is the one with at least a foot in the real world.

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2019, 07:09:39 AM »
I find your cavalier dismissal

Leaving aside

In contrast,

Still in the realm of myth

Stay the way you are. You will go far.................

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2019, 07:33:55 AM »
Karen came across like a real fucking weirdo. Post show.
Michael what did she say or do to make you think that?  What was it post show?  do tell.

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2019, 10:04:54 AM »
Stay the way you are. You will go far.................

Haha I am so full of shit.

But there is a larger point here:  now that the only eyewitness to the stalker events is dead, the stories properly become myths, having more in common with, say, religious revelations in the past than the court matter of pettifogging fact-finders.

Since only a fool confidently asserts that which can never be proven, asking whether they are true is perhaps the least-interesting question about them.  The wise man asks, instead, what they mean.

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2019, 12:13:21 PM »
If it were an isolated a incident it would be understandable. The problem is when you see a repeated pattern of either Senda-esque embellishment if not outright lying

Like an 11yr old (who Art said was at the top of her class) asking "What is dying?"
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1fbNGax399i

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2019, 12:16:02 PM »
Chocolate Coated Jack Boot, do you have the whole recording? I would love to hear this...

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2019, 12:21:36 PM »
If it were an isolated a incident it would be understandable. The problem is when you see a repeated pattern of either Senda-esque embellishment if not outright lying

Like an 11yr old (who Art said was at the top of her class) asking "What is dying?"
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1fbNGax399i

It fits comfortably with all his other stories like the UFO and the ouija board -- you'll get no argument from me there.  Why this one in particular is the one where people draw the line, like whoah buddy now you've gone too far, has amused me from the beginning.

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2019, 12:38:07 PM »

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http://www.knye.com/pahrumpradioinc_009.htm

Just for the record.  :)
"Originally from San Diego, Karenís varied background includes more than 20 years commercial banking, including a Senior Vice President position with South West Bank and 10 years in marketing and advertising. However, managing KNYE has been the ultimate challenge for this accomplished woman."

"The impetus for Stephens's charges appears to be a two-decades-old incident in San Diego, where Bell was running a video dating service at the time. Police raided the business, which they believed was used to make porn films but which in fact sold singles the chance to videotape themselves for viewing by potential dates. Bell ultimately won a $50,000 judgment against the police department, his Web site says."

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2019, 12:44:59 PM »
"Why would be the reason why he would  pick someone from relative obscurity to take over such an important show his radio station"
https://vocaroo.com/i/s185mFqtJFMF

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2019, 12:48:37 PM »
As a bonus, Yentagab's Little Sean calls in to offer his expertise on nasty internet people, online threats, cult-like behavior and following the letter of the law
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0IJoXAB9tXY

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2019, 12:50:58 PM »
i believe Karen Jackson is lying.

Art had had every reason to tell the exact same version Karen did. he did not. not even close. the only thing similar is a person allegedly looked in Art's window and he thought he knew the person's identity. everything else... not so much.

no shotgun man, no shotgun man pounding on Art's door, no shotgun man shooting over Art's head, no description, no evidence of a shooting, "could've been a firecracker", etc, etc etc...


Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2019, 01:32:17 PM »
Art had had every reason to tell the exact same version Karen did.

I disagree.  One reason for telling a different story might be that, in Karen's version, Art would be expected to identify the person, possibly leading to an arrest and testimony.

The conflicting stories make sense if the guy was a known local with a quasi-legitimate beef they thought they could handle and Art was protecting him because he kinda felt guilty and sorry for him because he sold what little possessions he had advertise his movie about a long-thighed knight on Art's show and to hire an asshat to do a lame show on Art's network and who recently expired on a friend's sofa.

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2019, 01:36:42 PM »
If it were an isolated a incident it would be understandable. The problem is when you see a repeated pattern of either Senda-esque embellishment if not outright lying

Like an 11yr old (who Art said was at the top of her class) asking "What is dying?"
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1fbNGax399i

"what is die" lulz

yeah, Karen is full of shit.

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2019, 01:42:57 PM »
The "shotgun" was a roll of posters for a long-thighed knight he was hoping Art would autograph so he could sell them on ebay and recoup a tiny fraction of his losses.

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2019, 03:52:41 PM »
I have to say that, on its literary merits alone, I prefer this version of the stalker narrative to anything I've read previously.  It is almost Solomonic in its refusal to make anyone happy.

Yes, there was a guy with a complaint whose harassment put the nail in Art's career's coffin.  However, the complaint had merit and the glib promoter, whether Art himself or his sales guy, who convinced chucklehead to throw it all in on that abortion of a show, is really at fault though, from his protection of the prime suspect, it would seem Art felt some personal responsibility.  Art's dressed-up version of events partakes of the desert-dweller's paranoia and the faceless darkness to turn it into the stuff of legend.

The Art who emerges is neither the hero sacrificing career for family he wants us to believe nor the scheming manipulator so many on here have denounced.  His motives, though they are complex, can all be guessed at:  fear (though of a rather more defined sort than he let on), disgust, guilt, shame and, ultimately, the determination to cling to his family to the exclusion of all else which, in retrospect, seems wise.

As a story with no heroes, abundant villains, pathos and pride all wrapped up in self-serving myth-making it is, fundamentally, human -- we all do that, if we're honest with ourselves.  It's a story for adults instead of children with their dualist simplicity, and infinitely preferable to the tiresome debate over whether Art lied.  Yes, he did.  Sort of.

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2019, 04:41:35 PM »
I disagree.  One reason for telling a different story might be that, in Karen's version, Art would be expected to identify the person, possibly leading to an arrest and testimony.

The conflicting stories make sense if the guy was a known local with a quasi-legitimate beef they thought they could handle and Art was protecting him because he kinda felt guilty and sorry for him because he sold what little possessions he had advertise his movie about a long-thighed knight on Art's show and to hire an asshat to do a lame show on Art's network and who recently expired on a friend's sofa.

Hey K_Dubb, that is accurate!

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2019, 05:04:38 PM »
I disagree.  One reason for telling a different story might be that, in Karen's version, Art would be expected to identify the person, possibly leading to an arrest and testimony.

The conflicting stories make sense if the guy was a known local with a quasi-legitimate beef they thought they could handle and Art was protecting him because he kinda felt guilty and sorry for him because he sold what little possessions he had advertise his movie about a long-thighed knight on Art's show and to hire an asshat to do a lame show on Art's network and who recently expired on a friend's sofa.

that's a fine theory, K_Dubb.

so, Art was being blackmailed off the air by someone he was protecting?

to be honest, i think both Art and Karen lied about what happened.

Art was always lying about the gunshot err..firecracker/stalker story from day one, and Karen is lying about the shotgun man to make Art's story credible.


Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2019, 05:13:14 PM »
that's a fine theory, K_Dubb.

so, Art was being blackmailed off the air by someone he was protecting?

to be honest, i think both Art and Karen lied about what happened.

Art was always lying about the gunshot err..firecracker/stalker story from day one, and Karen is lying about the shotgun man to make Art's story credible.

I don't know if I would call it blackmail.  More like dealing with a guy who lived in town and knew where you lived took whatever remaining love Art had for the business end of things and punted it sky high.

Remember the ordeal with Asshat and the check he was owed, which Art had to post a picture of to prove he sent it?  I imagine it was something like that.  Calling that "stalking" is a bit like calling a guy a sexual predator when he asks you for a pic of your feet.

Art Bell, cat lady.

Karen Jackson: "I've been Art's gatekeeper for 14 years"
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2019, 05:22:19 PM »
I have to say that, on its literary merits alone, I prefer this version of the stalker narrative to anything I've read previously.  It is almost Solomonic in its refusal to make anyone happy.

Yes, there was a guy with a complaint whose harassment put the nail in Art's career's coffin.  However, the complaint had merit and the glib promoter, whether Art himself or his sales guy, who convinced chucklehead to throw it all in on that abortion of a show, is really at fault though, from his protection of the prime suspect, it would seem Art felt some personal responsibility.  Art's dressed-up version of events partakes of the desert-dweller's paranoia and the faceless darkness to turn it into the stuff of legend.

The Art who emerges is neither the hero sacrificing career for family he wants us to believe nor the scheming manipulator so many on here have denounced.  His motives, though they are complex, can all be guessed at:  fear (though of a rather more defined sort than he let on), disgust, guilt, shame and, ultimately, the determination to cling to his family to the exclusion of all else which, in retrospect, seems wise.

As a story with no heroes, abundant villains, pathos and pride all wrapped up in self-serving myth-making it is, fundamentally, human -- we all do that, if we're honest with ourselves.  It's a story for adults instead of children with their dualist simplicity, and infinitely preferable to the tiresome debate over whether Art lied.  Yes, he did.  Sort of.

sorry, but no. Art has a documented history of seedy behavior going back decades, his nebulous relationship with Heather Wade makes his lies and motives even more bizarre. if Art was just a guy id agree with you. however, he's not just a guy. his prior actions and life choices prove he was a cold and calculated person while living. am i suppose to believe Art felt bad for some guy with a complaint, then let said gentleman blackmail him off the air and allow said gentleman to dictate how people perceived his professional reputation for the last 2+ years of his life? i don't buy it.