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Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2019, 04:11:08 PM »
How can you not like girls?

Even girls like girls

I get it that some dudes like dudes. But they gotta like girls too.

You're a genius.

Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2019, 04:14:44 PM »

Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2019, 04:22:52 PM »
There is a really interesting sect that lives near my big sis on the Kenai Peninsula -- actual Old Believers.  She says they are creepy and nobody likes them.

https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/05/a-17th-century-russian-community-living-in-21st-century-alaska/275440/
So far- "family gather in his living room for fish pie, salted salmon, and shots of Jose Cuervo 1800" what is not to like?

And ends with -"Everyone feasts on halibut chowder and salmon burgers, and the adults wash it all down with Coronas and shots of vodka." -What is not to like?  (Except a 5 HOUR church  service?)


Though I wonder how the tequila and Mexican beer got into their tradition? Sort of weird? Acquired the taste when they were down in SA? There are some Mormons in Mexico that apparently fight against (some say are) the cartels.

I got into a fight with a SJW relative over my admiration for sects like this, Mennonites, off-shoot Mormons, crazy Orthodox, Amish, crazy families living in the hills with their guns, etc because of being able to resist, or attempt to do so, modernity and maintain bloodlines and a community over different countries, persecution, purges, holocausts, etc. She said they are all so backward, abuse women, etc and didn't get my point in that I don't admire whatever sexual practices, gender theories, but the resolution and ability to still exist. And, I like to remind her, much of our Country was founded by sects, nutjobs, exploiters, persecuted religious minorities, witch-hunters, drunks, and people who just wanted to be left alone. 


Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2019, 04:29:08 PM »
So far- "family gather in his living room for fish pie, salted salmon, and shots of Jose Cuervo 1800" what is not to like?

And ends with -"Everyone feasts on halibut chowder and salmon burgers, and the adults wash it all down with Coronas and shots of vodka." -What is not to like?  (Except a 5 HOUR church  service?)


Though I wonder how the tequila and Mexican beer got into their tradition? Sort of weird? Acquired the taste when they were down in SA? There are some Mormons in Mexico that apparently fight against (some say are) the cartels.

I got into a fight with a SJW relative over my admiration for sects like this, Mennonites, off-shoot Mormons, crazy Orthodox, Amish, crazy families living in the hills with their guns, etc because of being able to resist, or attempt to do so, modernity and maintain bloodlines and a community over different countries, persecution, purges, holocausts, etc. She said they are all so backward, abuse women, etc and didn't get my point in that I don't admire whatever sexual practices, gender theories, but the resolution and ability to still exist. And, I like to remind her, much of our County was founded by sects, nutjobs, exploiters, persecuted religious minorities, witch-hunters, drunks, and people who just wanted to be left alone.

Profound observation


Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2019, 04:54:18 PM »
Intersectionality, absolutely!  And thank you for reminding me about the August vacation -- he's probably roasting in Corfu.  I was beginning to worry that my calling him a fat, treasonous sheep-fucker might have driven him away.

Not to worry- Shreddi sent out some video postcards and he's having a great time with his little dingy.


Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2019, 04:55:03 PM »
So far- "family gather in his living room for fish pie, salted salmon, and shots of Jose Cuervo 1800" what is not to like?

And ends with -"Everyone feasts on halibut chowder and salmon burgers, and the adults wash it all down with Coronas and shots of vodka." -What is not to like?  (Except a 5 HOUR church  service?)


Though I wonder how the tequila and Mexican beer got into their tradition? Sort of weird? Acquired the taste when they were down in SA? There are some Mormons in Mexico that apparently fight against (some say are) the cartels.

I got into a fight with a SJW relative over my admiration for sects like this, Mennonites, off-shoot Mormons, crazy Orthodox, Amish, crazy families living in the hills with their guns, etc because of being able to resist, or attempt to do so, modernity and maintain bloodlines and a community over different countries, persecution, purges, holocausts, etc. She said they are all so backward, abuse women, etc and didn't get my point in that I don't admire whatever sexual practices, gender theories, but the resolution and ability to still exist. And, I like to remind her, much of our Country was founded by sects, nutjobs, exploiters, persecuted religious minorities, witch-hunters, drunks, and people who just wanted to be left alone.

Yeah preserving culture as the highest form of human expression -- not just your own but everybody else's, too -- is inherently conservative, which is why the new missionaries like your relative are nearly always opposed by traditionals in every society they try their Maoist reeducation trick on, who know the threat of conformity when they see it.

Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2019, 04:58:52 PM »
Not to worry- Shreddi sent out some video postcards and he's having a great time with his little dingy.



Haha poor little thing is getting all red!  I hope someone is sunscreening him properly and sees to his fresh muffins daily, for his own safety.

Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #37 on: August 07, 2019, 05:06:55 PM »
Yeah preserving culture as the highest form of human expression -- not just your own but everybody else's, too -- is inherently conservative, which is why the new missionaries like your relative are nearly always opposed by traditionals in every society they try their Maoist reeducation trick on.
Near here there are a lot of "painted" churches from the various sects/denominations who came over after various Papal Bulls, as Princes took sides on what religion their lands would be, and wars. The Sorbs/Wendish are known also for elaborate Easter Eggs. Pretty much all assimilated but still carry on some traditions and some old timers still speak the lingo. 




Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2019, 05:08:12 PM »
Not to worry- Shreddi sent out some video postcards and he's having a great time with his little dingy.


Ha. Midgets are always funny. Or is it dwarves? I forget. One is funny the other is angry and dangerous.

Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2019, 05:12:12 PM »
Near here there are a lot of "painted" churches from the various sects/denominations who came over after various Papal Bulls, as Princes took sides on what religion their lands would be, and wars. The Sorbs/Wendish are known also for elaborate Easter Eggs. Pretty much all assimilated but still carry on some traditions and some old timers still speak the lingo. 





Cool!  I was surprised to find so many places selling what they call kolaches in Texas (this was Dallas area) -- nothing like E. Europe but still, as a devotee of sweet yeast-dough pastries, I was delighted.

Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #40 on: August 07, 2019, 05:21:40 PM »
Cool!  I was surprised to find so many places selling what they call kolaches in Texas -- nothing like E. Europe but still, as a devotee of sweet yeast-dough pastries, I was delighted.
A lot of Czechs, Slovaks, Wends, and of course Germans moved here back in the day. There are certain areas known for tem. And then lots of mixing of traditions so you get kolaches called that even though, properly, that term is not used for the meat kind but only the fruit kind. There are polka stations you can still get on radio, especially on weekends in rural areas. One notices a lot of similarity between certain Mexican music and polka (both like accordians.) I knew a real Czech gal and when she was visiting I played her some polka and stopped off for BBQ and kolaches and she said that "people talk like her grandfather, children, or old books." I would imagine the dialects etc in Mennonite/Amish/Orthodox/OldBeliever groups would be even more different situation. Time sort of stopped in certain communities and the major languages/culture back home has evolved/changed.
On all the major highways, going East-West or North-South! 

http://www.hruskas-bakery.com/bakery 
https://www.weikels.com/bakery
 http://www.czechstop.net/our-menu/

Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #41 on: August 07, 2019, 05:45:55 PM »
The English are a race of inveterate busybodies.  I think it comes from living cheek by jowl in those tenements with a common loo.

They keep an entire extended family under glass in a sort of public terrarium for everyone to gawp at whose antics fill their newspapers.

I wonder if the Japanese are similarly wired or if the infamous loss of face reigns their sociopathic tendencies in.

Or it may just be tentacle porn soothes the savage breast.

Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2019, 05:48:25 PM »
ps: Being a Brit I figure Sredni is taking the usual August vacation? But I could be wrong. Maybe one of those friendly Muslims got him?

Sahib Pushtar, in the roundabout, with a Land Rover.

Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2019, 05:51:47 PM »
Ha. Midgets are always funny. Or is it dwarves? I forget. One is funny the other is angry and dangerous.
Midgets don't respond to pliers, dwarves must.

Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2019, 05:54:01 PM »
Sahib Pushtar, in the roundabout, with a Land Rover.
You won! I had figured Mrs.Peacock in the Conservatory with a candlestick.


Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2019, 06:12:35 PM »
I wonder if the Japanese are similarly wired or if the infamous loss of face reigns their sociopathic tendencies in.

Or it may just be tentacle porn soothes the savage breast.

I do not know any Japanese people, unfortunately.  I do know a lot of Chinese, Koreans, and Indians, however, and I would say they are more likely to get involved in your business than I am comfortable with for what must be cultural reasons.

It's difficult to be really good friends with anyone who doesn't share what I'd call the (particularly late Western) concept of existential irony, i. e. the knowledge that one's being is, to some degree, ridiculous.  That "gung ho" is an imported word is not coincidental; it is impossible for a Westerner to be truly gung ho about anything, and I think it is this natural self-doubt that keeps us out of each other's way.

Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2019, 06:22:50 PM »
You won! I had figured Mrs.Peacock in the Conservatory with a candlestick.




Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #47 on: August 07, 2019, 06:27:00 PM »
I do not know any Japanese people, unfortunately.  I do know a lot of Chinese, Koreans, and Indians, however, and I would say they are more likely to get involved in your business than I am comfortable with for what must be cultural reasons.

Yes but that is innate bossiness, the hive mind and so on, not familial outings, as it were...I think I'll take Kabuki theater over Downton Abbey-Pyongyang edition. Too many characters to write out.

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It's difficult to be really good friends with anyone who doesn't share what I'd call the (particularly late Western) concept of existential irony, i. e. the knowledge that one's being is, to some degree, ridiculous.  That "gung ho" is an imported word is not coincidental; it is impossible for a Westerner to be truly gung ho about anything, and I think it is this natural self-doubt that keeps us out of each other's way.

Yes, so how about:




Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #48 on: August 07, 2019, 06:32:14 PM »
Yes, so how about:



Both are utterly terrifying.

Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #49 on: August 07, 2019, 06:33:48 PM »
Both are utterly terrifying.

So different sides of the same goofball existential coin?

Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #50 on: August 07, 2019, 06:35:29 PM »
Ha. Midgets are always funny. Or is it dwarves? I forget. One is funny the other is angry and dangerous.

I don't think Shreddi is either. I'd classify him as a fractionally angry garden gnome commonly found occupying a backyard compost pile.

Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #51 on: August 07, 2019, 06:46:23 PM »
So different sides of the same goofball existential coin?

Yes.  The self-assurance is completely alien.  To be human is to doubt, to struggle, to question -- that goes back at least to Socrates.  From that springs tolerance (the other guy might just know better than you) and individual liberty (who am I to tell someone else what to do?) and laughing at yourself, the sweetest laughter of all.

Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #52 on: August 07, 2019, 06:59:06 PM »
I don't think Shreddi is either. I'd classify him as a fractionally angry garden gnome commonly found occupying a backyard compost pile.
So a "Brownie?"


Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #53 on: August 07, 2019, 07:14:35 PM »
So a "Brownie?"



Brownies are known as the industrious fairies. I don't think our little fractional fairy has everything worked out.


Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #54 on: August 08, 2019, 05:00:46 AM »
Ha. Midgets are always funny. Or is it dwarves? I forget. One is funny the other is angry and dangerous.

How this thread devolved into ridicule of the disabled, is beyond me. I expected more from you.

Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #55 on: August 08, 2019, 05:31:19 PM »
Yes.  The self-assurance is completely alien.  To be human is to doubt, to struggle, to question -- that goes back at least to Socrates.  From that springs tolerance (the other guy might just know better than you) and individual liberty (who am I to tell someone else what to do?) and laughing at yourself, the sweetest laughter of all.

Just so we can agree Asians have existential thinking too?

https://www.existentialbuddhist.com/

“Do not go upon what has been acquired by repeated hearing; nor upon tradition; nor upon rumor; nor upon what is in a scripture; nor upon surmise; nor upon an axiom; nor upon specious reasoning; nor upon a bias towards a notion that has been pondered over; nor upon another’s seeming ability; nor upon the consideration, ‘The monk is our teacher.’ Kalamas, when you yourselves know: ‘These things are good; these things are not blamable; these things are praised by the wise; undertaken and observed, these things lead to benefit and happiness,’ enter on and abide in them.

– The Kalama Sutta

Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #56 on: August 08, 2019, 05:33:30 PM »
How this thread devolved into ridicule of the disabled, is beyond me. I expected more from you.
May not have heard:



It's like Garrison Keilor on crack.

Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #57 on: August 08, 2019, 06:57:25 PM »
Just so we can agree Asians have existential thinking too?

https://www.existentialbuddhist.com/

“Do not go upon what has been acquired by repeated hearing; nor upon tradition; nor upon rumor; nor upon what is in a scripture; nor upon surmise; nor upon an axiom; nor upon specious reasoning; nor upon a bias towards a notion that has been pondered over; nor upon another’s seeming ability; nor upon the consideration, ‘The monk is our teacher.’ Kalamas, when you yourselves know: ‘These things are good; these things are not blamable; these things are praised by the wise; undertaken and observed, these things lead to benefit and happiness,’ enter on and abide in them.

– The Kalama Sutta

You might as well pull "your heart will tell you what is true" out of a fortune cookie.  It is eggshell existentialism.  Where is the allowance for faulty perception and the obligation for constant toughening self-examination and reappraisal, the possibility of good-faith error, of honorable failure, of redemption?

Bigger-picture, where is the understanding that absolute truth is perceived dimly, through a glass darkly, and that whole philosophies that try to capture it and for which men fight and die in one generation are despised in the next -- I will probably misquote Tennyson here but

Our little systems have their day,
They come and go and cease to be.
They are but broken lights of Thee,
For Thou, O Lord, art more than they.

It is what permits the Western man to stand outside of himself and laugh and make allowances for himself and others but still persist as best he knows.

I don't know you from Adam or from what culture you hail but I hope you understand that in my culture engaging you directly and forcefully is intended as respect, and that an equally forceful reply showing me where I'm wrong is the best thing I can hope for.

Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #58 on: August 08, 2019, 07:17:10 PM »
You might as well pull "your heart will tell you what is true" out of a fortune cookie.  It is eggshell existentialism.  Where is the allowance for faulty perception and the obligation for constant toughening self-examination and reappraisal, the possibility of good-faith error, of honorable failure, of redemption?

I think that's all sovereign individual decision making.

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Bigger-picture, where is the understanding that absolute truth is perceived dimly, through a glass darkly, and that whole philosophies that try to capture it and for which men fight and die in one generation are despised in the next -- I will probably misquote Tennyson here but

Our little systems have their day,
They come and go and cease to be.
They are but broken lights of Thee,
For Thou, O Lord, art more than they.

It is what permits the Western man to stand outside of himself and laugh and make allowances for himself and others but still persist as best he knows.

You mean not succumbing to the hive mind or collectivism, true?

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I don't know you from Adam or from what culture you hail but I hope you understand that in my culture engaging you directly and forcefully is intended as respect, and that an equally forceful reply showing me where I'm wrong is the best thing I can hope for.

So if I go all Lebowski chill on you then this construct, and few others, they just collapse, right?

I wonder where that leaves the Dalai Lama and Richard Gere. I've always found either to be pretty existential. I'm staying mainstream here as philosophy can be its own obtuse enemy when it demands doctrinal purity and eschews this "modern" world.

Re: Sredni Vashtar (Missing in Action)
« Reply #59 on: August 08, 2019, 07:30:44 PM »
i heard he was part street-shidder. i could be wrong.