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Re: 2018 Winter Olympics PyeongChang
« Reply #60 on: February 19, 2018, 05:51:54 PM »
How in the hell do you fail a doping test in Curling?

Re: 2018 Winter Olympics PyeongChang
« Reply #61 on: February 19, 2018, 07:29:04 PM »
How long before two skaters, both born with peepees are entered in the pairs competition because one identifies as a woman?
I guess that could also happen in mixed pairs curling as well, which made its Olympic debut at the South Korean 2018 Olympics.

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Aside from the question of sexual self-identification discussed above.  There is the "issue" of natural conditions that cause females to have too much endogenous(naturally produced by the body) called hyperandrogenism.

Then there is Caster Semneya from Africa.  She was born with natural hyperandrogenism that gives her naturally high testosterone levels. 
After her winning at the World Championship having beaten her previous personal best at the African Junior Championships just ONE month earlier, suspicions of drug use were rampant.
In 2009 she made improvements of 25 seconds in her 1600 meter(0.994194 miles known as the Metric mile) race and 8 second improvements in her 800 meter(0.497097 mile).  The IAAF(International Association of Athletic Federations) was "obliged" to follow up with her and asked her to take a sex verification test.  Though the results were never officially released, some of the results were leaked and that she did have an intersex trait.


""United States Olympic Committee president Avery Brundage requested, during or shortly after the 1936 Summer Olympics in Berlin, that a system be established to examine female athletes. According to a Time magazine article about hermaphrodites, Brundage felt the need to clarify "sex ambiguities" after observing the performance of Czechoslovak runner and jumper Zdeňka Koubková and English shotputter and javelin thrower Mary Edith Louise Weston.""

Zedenke Koubkov


Mary Edith Louise Weston


""Both individuals later had sex change surgery and legally changed their names, to Zdeněk Koubek and Mark Weston, respectively.""

""Chromosome testing was introduced by the International Olympic Committee during the 1968 Summer Olympics.[10] This tested for the presence of the SRY gene, which is found on the Y-chromosome, and was designed to identify males potentially disguised as females. This method of testing was later abolished, as it was shown to be inconclusive in identifying maleness.""

""The International Association of Athletics Federations ceased sex screening for all athletes in 1992, but retained the option of assessing the sex of a participant should suspicions arise. A resolution was passed at the 1996 International Olympic Committee (IOC) World Conference on Women and Health "to discontinue the current process of gender verification during the Olympic Games". The International Olympic Committee's board voted to discontinue the practice in June 1999.
 Chromosome testing was last performed at the Atlanta Olympic Games in 1996.""

""The practice of chromosome testing came under scrutiny from those who feel that the testing was humiliating, socially insensitive, and not entirely accurate or effective. The testing is especially difficult in the case of people who could be considered intersex. Genetic differences can allow a person to have a male genetic make-up and female anatomy or body chemistry. In the Journal of the American Medical Association, Simpson, Ljungqvist and others stated:

          Gender verification tests are difficult, expensive, and potentially inaccurate. Furthermore, these tests fail to exclude all potential impostors (eg, some 46,XX males), are discriminatory against women with disorders of sexual development, and may have shattering consequences for athletes who 'fail' a test ...
Gender verification has long been criticized by geneticists, endocrinologists, and others in the medical community. One major problem was unfairly excluding women who had a birth defect involving gonads and external genitalia (i.e., male pseudohermaphroditism). ...

     A second problem is that only women, not men, were subjected to gender verification testing. Systematic follow-up was rarely available for athletes "failing" the test, which often was performed under very public circumstances. Follow-up was crucial because the subjects were not male impostors, but intersexed individuals.""

HORMONE TESTING
     "In August 2009, South African athlete Caster Semenya was subjected to mandatory sex verification testing. In the wake of the Semenya case, testosterone testing was introduced to identify cases where testosterone levels were elevated above an arbitrary level, termed hyperandrogenism, with national Olympics committees tasked by the IOC to "actively investigate any perceived deviation in sex characteristics".

     ""In football, FIFA's current gender verification policy dates to May 30, 2011.  In June 2012, in advance of the 2012 Summer Olympics, the IOC released "IOC Regulations on Female Hyperandrogenism", which addressed cases of female hyperandrogenism. The regulation includes the statement, "Nothing in these Regulations is intended to make any determination of sex. Instead, these Regulations are designed to identify circumstances in which a particular athlete will not be eligible (by reason of hormonal characteristics) to participate in 2012 Olympic Games Competitions in the female category. In the event that the athlete has been declared ineligible to compete in the female category, the athlete may be eligible to compete as a male athlete, if the athlete qualifies for the male event of the sport."

     ""As with previous forms of sex testing, testosterone testing has been regarded as humiliating, unnecessary and discriminatory. Katrina Karkazis, Rebecca Jordan-Young, Georgiann Davis and Silvia Camporesi argued that the new IAAF policies on hyperandrogenism in female athletes will not protect against breaches of privacy, will require athletes to undergo unnecessary treatment in order to compete, and will intensify "gender policing". They recommend that athletes be able to compete in accordance with their legal gender.""

     ""In 2013, it was reported by Patrick Fénichel, Stéphane Bermon and others that four elite female athletes from developing countries were subjected to partial clitoridectomies and gonadectomies (sterilization) after testosterone testing revealed that they had an intersex condition.  Members of the same clinical hormone evaluation team report there is no evidence that innate hyperandrogenism in elite women athletes confers an advantage in sport. The case has been criticized as showing vulnerability of women athletes to unnecessary medical interventions under duress, with no evidence of cheating and no evidence of athletic advantage.""

     ""Policies on hyperandrogenism were suspended following the case of Dutee Chand v. Athletics Federation of India (AFI) & The International Association of Athletics Federations(IAAF), in the Court of Arbitration for Sport(CAS), decided in July 2015. Chand had been dropped from the 2014 Commonwealth Games at the last minute after the Athletic Federation of India (AFI) stated that hyperandrogenism made her ineligible to compete as a female athlete. The ruling found that there was insufficient evidence that testosterone increased female athletic performance. In doing so the court suspended the practice of hyperandrogenism regulation used by the IAAF. The practice will be declared void if the organization fails to present better evidence by July 2017.""

     ""In November 2015, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) held a meeting to address both its hyperandrogenism and transgender policies. In regards to hyperandrogenism in female athletes, the IOC encouraged reinstatement of the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) policies suspended by the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS). It also repeated an earlier policy statement that, to "avoid discrimination, if not eligible for female competition the athlete should be eligible to compete in male competition".  In February 2016, it was made known that the IOC would not introduce its own policies that would impose a maximum testosterone level for the 2016 Summer Olympics.""

     ""In April 2016, the United Nations Special Rapporteur on health, Dainius Pūras, criticized current and historic sex verification policies, describing how "a number of athletes have undergone gonadectomy (removal of reproductive organs) and partial cliteroidectomy (a form of female genital mutilation) in the absence of symptoms or health issues warranting those procedures".
     "Sporting organizations must implement policies in accordance with human rights norms and refrain from introducing policies that force, coerce or otherwise pressure women athletes into undergoing unnecessary, irreversible and harmful medical procedures in order to participate as women in competitive sport. States should also adopt legislation incorporating international human rights standards to protect the rights of intersex persons at all levels of sport, given that they frequently report bullying and discriminatory behaviour, and should take steps to protect the health rights of intersex women in their jurisdiction from interference by third parties.""   Dainius Pūras-April, 2016

     ""The cases of Dutee Chand and Caster Semenya were widely reported during the 2016 Rio Olympics.   Immediately preceding the games, Genel, Simpson and de la Chapelle were again published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) starting:
     "One of the fundamental recommendations published almost 25 years ago ... that athletes born with a disorder of sex development and raised as females be allowed to compete as women remains appropriate":  with the passage of time and the recurring public spectacle of young women ... having their underlying biology indiscriminately scrutinized in the world media, it has become evident that the hyperandrogenism policies are no more salutary than earlier attempts to define sharp sex boundaries.""

Dutee Chand-India-born on 3 February 1996, 22 years of age-pictured with her Bronze medal in the 100m sprint @ 11.52 seconds just 13-hundredths of a second behind the Gold winner Viktoria Zyabkina with an 00:11:39 earned at the 22nd Asian Athletics Championships in Bhubaneswar, Odisha State, India.


Mokgadi Caster Semenya-South Africa-born 7 January 1991, 27 years of age, pictured at the 2017 Worlds in London England, running the 1500m earning a Bronze medal with a 04:02.90.  At the same meet she won Gold in the 800m with a World Leading Time(best time posted anyone that season) & National South African Record 1:55.16.


peace
Hog




Re: 2018 Winter Olympics PyeongChang
« Reply #62 on: February 19, 2018, 09:18:09 PM »
I am having trouble categorizing the above within realms of (respectively) Richard Simmons, John Wayne and Kevin Spacey gayness. 

Re: 2018 Winter Olympics PyeongChang
« Reply #63 on: February 19, 2018, 11:41:31 PM »

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/olympics/winter-olympics-2018-freestyle-skiingheaven-is-a-halfpipe-for-unconventional-swaney-20180219-h0wceh.html

Re: 2018 Winter Olympics PyeongChang
« Reply #64 on: February 20, 2018, 07:22:41 AM »

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/olympics/winter-olympics-2018-freestyle-skiingheaven-is-a-halfpipe-for-unconventional-swaney-20180219-h0wceh.html

I love stuff like this. Just fucking around on a global scale for your own amusement.

Re: 2018 Winter Olympics PyeongChang
« Reply #65 on: February 21, 2018, 01:40:06 AM »

Re: 2018 Winter Olympics SPOIlER
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Re: 2018 Winter Olympics Overtime!!!
« Reply #68 on: February 22, 2018, 12:26:05 AM »
Women’s gold medal game, CAN vs USA going to overtime. 2-2


Re: 2018 Winter Olympics Overtime!!!
« Reply #69 on: February 22, 2018, 01:24:56 AM »
Women’s gold medal game, CAN vs USA going to overtime. 2-2



And America took it in a shootout.  A well fought game.  I was whooping and my heart was really thumping at the end there.

Re: 2018 Winter Olympics PyeongChang
« Reply #70 on: February 22, 2018, 01:25:01 AM »

Re: 2018 Winter Olympics PyeongChang
« Reply #71 on: February 24, 2018, 02:47:09 AM »


 ;D

Re: 2018 Winter Olympics PyeongChang
« Reply #72 on: February 24, 2018, 06:30:00 AM »
Oh Canada... first you lose to Germany at ice hockey, and then this happens:

Canadian athlete, his wife and coach arrested for stealing car in Pyeongchang
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South Korean police say they have detained a Canadian ski cross competitor, his wife and a coach for allegedly stealing a car during the Pyeongchang Olympics.

Police on Saturday said the three allegedly got into a car in front of a bar and drove it near the Pyeongchang athletes' village before they were detained by police on patrol.

All three were intoxicated when they were stopped, the police said.

Canadian Olympic Committee chief executive Chris Overholt said an "incident occurred" just after midnight.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-24/canadian-athlete-wife-coach-arrested-stealing-car-pyeongchang/9481752   ::)

Re: 2018 Winter Olympics PyeongChang
« Reply #73 on: February 24, 2018, 10:16:22 AM »
Oh Canada... first you lose to Germany at ice hockey, and then this happens:

Canadian athlete, his wife and coach arrested for stealing car in Pyeongchanghttp://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-24/canadian-athlete-wife-coach-arrested-stealing-car-pyeongchang/9481752   ::)

Damn, it’s stupid enough to steal a car here. But these idiots doing this “practical joke” crap in foreign countries where you end up in a tin box prison cell for 10 years.


Re: 2018 Winter Olympics PyeongChang
« Reply #74 on: February 25, 2018, 10:34:58 AM »
TigerFurry!  So many beautiful, fierce women in the Olympics this year













Re: 2018 Winter Olympics PyeongChang
« Reply #75 on: February 25, 2018, 11:08:04 AM »
TigerFurry!  So many beautiful, fierce women in the Olympics this year









https://www.npr.org/sections/thetorch/2018/02/21/587513454/kikkan-randall-the-only-mom-on-team-usa-just-won-a-gold-medal-in-her-last-event
This was the best, but why NBC post some different announcer than the excited play-by-play when it was live?? WTF?

Re: 2018 Winter Olympics PyeongChang
« Reply #76 on: February 25, 2018, 09:36:46 PM »
The Jessie Diggins, Kikkan Randall gold medal was amazing. That’s one of the all time great American moments in the Olympics. Just watching cross county makes me tired. 😂


Re: 2018 Winter Olympics PyeongChang
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Re: 2018 Winter Olympics PyeongChang
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Re: 2018 Winter Olympics PyeongChang
« Reply #79 on: February 27, 2018, 08:05:35 AM »
Final medal standings. Choke on it, goofballs ;D

https://www.pyeongchang2018.com/en/game-time/results/OWG2018/en/general/medal-standings.htm
Ah yeah, it was a good games.  The best we ever did.


So far 4 dopers, we'll have to wait 10 years to see how the medals stand.

peace
Hog

Re: 2018 Winter Olympics PyeongChang
« Reply #80 on: February 27, 2018, 10:35:19 AM »
Ah yeah, it was a good games.  The best we ever did.


So far 4 dopers, we'll have to wait 10 years to see how the medals stand.

peace
Hog

About the time the Canadians will get out of the gulag for car theft.

Re: 2018 Winter Olympics PyeongChang
« Reply #81 on: February 27, 2018, 11:31:22 AM »

Last Olympics 2018 Champion. Yang Tae Hwan. This kid shreds

https://mobile.twitter.com/NBCOlympics/status/967939136920477696/video/1






Re: 2018 Winter Olympics PyeongChang
« Reply #82 on: February 27, 2018, 12:34:42 PM »
About the time the Canadians will get out of the gulag for car theft.
I had to go look this event up as I didn't hear about it.  What a bunch of drunken idiots. Let's steal a car in a foreign country while we're drunk.  I hope they throw the book at them. 
That's almost as bad as that Ryan Lochte incident in Brazil.

I don't know much about the Republic of Korea, but I know enough that I don't want to go to any of their prisons.

Here's a Reuters story
https://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCAKCN1G809D-OCATP

Here's the CNN story.  It includes the Blood Alcohol Level of 0.162% 1 hour after stealing the car. South Koreas legal limit is 0.05%, his level was more than thrice that.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/24/sport/canada-david-duncan-olympian-trnd/index.html

877 days 17 hours and 26 minutes until the 2020 Summer Olympic Games in Tokyo Japan.  Another Olympics that is 14 hours ahead of my Eastern time zone.

https://days.to/until/summer-olympic-games

peace
Hog

Re: 2018 Winter Olympics PyeongChang
« Reply #83 on: February 27, 2018, 01:22:23 PM »
I had to go look this event up as I didn't hear about it.  What a bunch of drunken idiots. Let's steal a car in a foreign country while we're drunk.  I hope they throw the book at them. 
That's almost as bad as that Ryan Lochte incident in Brazil...

If they were black, Ivanka would have pressed for their release the way Trump did for those basketball players in China.  My guess is South Korea will quietly let them go so as to remove a mar on the Games