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Live Shooters Las Vegas Several Dead at Mandalay Bay

Started by chefist, October 01, 2017, 11:27:34 PM

Quote from: Swishypants on October 02, 2017, 05:48:08 PM
I was listening to the breech live fuckers. They said "a few" (that means three if you're educated) and that's what was there. The 19 guns is total bullshit. He had a pistol and a couple of semi-automatic RPD's or RPK's that were illegally modified. It's easy to modify a weapon for full auto. There is shot all over the interwebs on how to do it and it can be done with shit from Home Depot and a Dremel Tool. That's not news to anyone with more than 3 brain cells. He may have had a GMPG or M-60 clone in semi-auto that was also modified rather than the RPK. Point is, there were three guns. 19 is MSM political bullshit.

Did you listen to the last update about an hour and a half ago? 19 guns.  There is no point in being nasty.

Lord Grantham

Quote from: starrmtn001 on October 02, 2017, 03:19:51 PM
You're not required to look while you listen. ;)

That's what I had to do. Suffer not the chest hair to live.


Swishypants

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 02, 2017, 05:49:54 PM
Did you listen to the last update about an hour and a half ago? 19 guns.  There is no point in being nasty.

Your introduction to me was to call me a "LOSER" Schizoid. You set the tone. Live with it. I listened to them actually breech the room and put three rounds into his already dead body early this morning.

Quote from: Swishypants on October 02, 2017, 05:53:36 PM
Your introduction to me was to call me a "LOSER" Schizoid. You set the tone. Live with it. I listened to them actually breech the room and put three rounds into his already dead body early this morning.

Well, the 19 guns comes from the last update by the police department from an hour and a half ago. You obviously need to go back and listen to it.   Yeah, I went after you because I thought you were theOne.  I've since decided that you are not theOne. If you want a complete apology, you'll have to make an attitude adjustment.

Zetaspeak

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 02, 2017, 05:45:28 PM
I have 9000 movies,  thousands of comic books and cd's and hundreds of books (never counted the number of books but probably several thousand).   19 guns were in the hotel room in the last update I heard.

Good call on that, I definitely have over 30 DVD, and CD's are in and around that mark, but I am considering of putting them into audio file because of the clutter but not sure if I will miss the physical CD. Good call on the books as well.

If anybody is interested in specific Nevada gun laws.... Here is what I found in a neat little write up.






Swish, I didn't find out about this until late this morning, but the audio I heard (before hearing what the cops and media were saying) sounded a lot like a SAW, not modified AK or M4.
Just sayin'

Swishypants

Quote from: Original Larry on October 02, 2017, 06:01:47 PM
Swish, I didn't find out about this until late this morning, but the audio I heard (before hearing what the cops and media were saying) sounded a lot like a SAW, not modified AK or M4.
Just sayin'

The first video clip posted with that massive RIP of fire was 7.62 x51mm NATO. It's unmistakable. It was at a way lower RPM than a regular M-240/GPMG. Later some of it sounded like 7.62 x 39 (AK ammo). I reckon he had a GMPG and an RPD. (You can buy semi-auto clones of them all day long and he did and then modified them) The reason they are saying 19 Guns is because Vegas is DEMOCRAT controlled and the Police Chief is a political appointment. It's horse-shit but it's to be expected. They do it every time! SWAT breached and shot the body. They flicked on the lights and found 3 weapons. One was a pistol. The other two are open to shallow speculation. It wasn't 5.56 x 45 (AR ammo) for sure! At no time were those sounds heard.

Swishypants

Homeboy was ready to check out. He was older and had a grudge. He set-up his LP/OP and key-holed. From an operational standpoint he did a good job!

Quote from: Zetaspeak on October 02, 2017, 05:58:26 PM
Good call on that, I definitely have over 30 DVD, and CD's are in and around that mark, but I am considering of putting them into audio file because of the clutter but not sure if I will miss the physical CD. Good call on the books as well.

If anybody is interested in specific Nevada gun laws.... Here is what I found in a neat little write up.



I always wanted to have a massive library in case of doom and I've got my wish.  Hopefully doom won't include losing electricity. lol.  I have to have physical copies. It is just not the same if it isn't physical.  Some of my movies are not dvd but blu-ray.

Swishypants

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 02, 2017, 05:57:35 PM
Well, the 19 guns comes from the last update by the police department from an hour and a half ago. You obviously need to go back and listen to it.   Yeah, I went after you because I thought you were theOne.  I've since decided that you are not theOne. If you want a complete apology, you'll have to make an attitude adjustment.

You don't mean enough to me to care. I shit bigger than you. LOL !


Quote from: Swishypants on October 02, 2017, 06:12:30 PM
You don't mean enough to me to care. I shit bigger than you. LOL !

My pinky is bigger than you, fool.

Zetaspeak

Is it unusual for it to be almost 19 hours and not a single hint of a motive yet?

And no I don't buy secret IS member, I just do see a clean shaven, gambling loving with no hint to family at all fitting the demo as for angry liberal, again having collected 30 guns over a time period doesn't seem like somebody who a diehard Lib.

I am leaning that it has something to do with casino grievances, putting a stain on the image of the casino hotel with something like this.


Swishypants

Quote from: Zetaspeak on October 02, 2017, 06:24:16 PM
Is it unusual for it to be almost 19 hours and not a single hint of a motive yet?

And no I don't buy secret IS member, I just do see a clean shaven, gambling loving with no hint to family at all fitting the demo as for angry liberal, again having collected 30 guns over a time period doesn't seem like somebody who a diehard Lib.

I am leaning that it has something to do with casino grievances, putting a stain on the image of the casino hotel with something like this.

The spin doctors are hard at work trying to come up with one, but the truth is he had money issues and his woman left him. He figured "FUCK IT! I'll make others feel my pain and take my own life so they don't get the satisfaction of killing me. I win! I WIN MOTHERFUCKERS!" Or something like dat! :)

Gd5150

Crazy the gunman was shooting from 1500ft away. People were shooting video from
The foundation room on the 46th floor of Mandalay Bay and had no idea he was right below them to the left. They could have easily seen the gun fire but were looking towards the stage.


Swishypants

Be nicer to people. Stop working harder for less than your Grandparents would tolerate. Stop being P.C. and get off your fucking internet devices and go interact with other human beings face to face! That's what you should take from this. Isolation and money issues will drive anyone crazy given enough time. Mean-ness sets it off and then look out! The government can't protect you and guns are here to stay. Be polite and kind, or deal with shit like this! Your choice!

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Swishypants on October 02, 2017, 06:29:23 PM
Be nicer to people. Stop working harder for less than your Grandparents would tolerate. Stop being P.C. and get off your fucking internet devices and go interact with other human beings face to face! That's what you should take from this. Isolation and money issues will drive anyone crazy given enough time. Mean-ness sets it off and then look out! The government can't protect you and guns are here to stay. Be polite and kind, or deal with shit like this! Your choice!

https://youtu.be/4rrXR6n0RTY

Quote from: Gd5150 on October 02, 2017, 06:27:25 PM
Crazy the gunman was shooting from 1500ft away. People were shooting video from
The foundation room on the 46th floor of Mandalay Bay and had no idea he was right below them to the left. They could have easily seen the gun fire but were looking towards the stage.



Crazy... when i first heard this i thought this was in a night club or stadium and the gunman was in the back or on a balcony overlooking the concert. It's crazy he could rack up so many kills and injuries from so far away and at that elevation. I doubt he was shooting at specific targets he was more than likely spraying and hoping to hit people shooting from elevation throws your point of impact off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mhX4VQb-A4

GravitySucks

Quote from: Gd5150 on October 02, 2017, 06:27:25 PM
Crazy the gunman was shooting from 1500ft away. People were shooting video from
The foundation room on the 46th floor of Mandalay Bay and had no idea he was right below them to the left. They could have easily seen the gun fire but were looking towards the stage.



Makes you wonder if he planned it after he saw where his room was, or if he requested the rooms on that specific wing of the hotel. I’ve been in the Mandalay but never stayed there so I don’t remember the layout.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: crescent fresh on October 02, 2017, 06:39:45 PM
Crazy... when i first heard this i thought this was in a night club or stadium and the gunman was in the back or on a balcony overlooking the concert. It's crazy he could rack up so many kills and injuries from so far away and at that elevation. I doubt he was shooting at specific targets he was more than likely spraying and hoping to hit people shooting from elevation throws your point of impact off.



Seems pretty much what he did. It looks unlikely from what has been released so far that he aimed for anyone specifically.

Swishypants

He was just spraying and praying. In a crowd of 40,000 and shooting at the center of it, you're bound to hit a few!

Swishypants

Most people died because the EMT's were held back and they bleed to death waiting for help that wasn't coming.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: GravitySucks on October 02, 2017, 06:41:56 PM
Makes you wonder if he planned it after he saw where his room was, or if he requested the rooms on that specific wing of the hotel. I’ve been in the Mandalay but never stayed there so I don’t remember the layout.


Or he planned it and asked for the two specific suites to carry it out?

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Swishypants on October 02, 2017, 06:43:46 PM
Most people died because the EMT's were held back and they bleed to death waiting for help that wasn't coming.


Yeah because when there's someone spraying a gathering, the safest place for EMT's is in the fire zone so they can be killed and be useless at saving anyone else's life... Most important person is yourself, because unless it is, you can't help anyone else.

Swishypants

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on October 02, 2017, 06:44:09 PM

Or he planned it and asked for the two specific suites to carry it out?

Shit like this is impulse driven. He probably modified the weapons early in the day and stayed mad or drunk all day so he could hit the target that night. He may not have even known what even he was shooting at. If concerts are there every night then he knew somebody would be there to die for him.

Swishypants

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on October 02, 2017, 06:46:05 PM

Yeah because when there's someone spraying a gathering, the safest place for EMT's is in the fire zone so they can be killed and be useless at saving anyone else's life... Most important person is yourself, because unless it is, you can't help anyone else.

The problem is how SAFE SWAT is these days. They have so many rules that is slows down response times. If the two Texas Rangers at the University of Texas had not charged up that clock tower in the 60's a lot more people would have died. Now they're not allowed to, and hence....a lot of people die!

Zetaspeak

Quote from: Swishypants on October 02, 2017, 06:43:09 PM
He was just spraying and praying. In a crowd of 40,000 and shooting at the center of it, you're bound to hit a few!

Yeah there was no target, it was fish in a barrel

Or kind of like how I play Goldeneye video game

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Swishypants on October 02, 2017, 06:46:11 PM
Shit like this is impulse driven. He probably modified the weapons early in the day and stayed mad or drunk all day so he could hit the target that night. He may not have even known what even he was shooting at. If concerts are there every night then he knew somebody would be there to die for him.


Impulse? He had ten suitcases that had been taken into the hotel since the 28th september. I'm not Alexander the Great, but I'd say that's tactical and strategic.

Swishypants

There are very few situations were "COWBOYING THE FUCK UP" and rushing in are warranted, but stuff like this is one of them.

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