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« Reply #840 on: February 14, 2019, 09:32:21 PM »
Should be mentioned that the whole thing was also a bit of a political project, so logistics weren't particularly straightforward during production. Get a load of this map:

Manufacture, assembly, transport, and logistics of various pieces of the Airbus A380. Final assembly in Toulouse.




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« Reply #841 on: February 14, 2019, 09:35:28 PM »
They have showers in them?    Ick.

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« Reply #842 on: February 14, 2019, 09:48:26 PM »
Should be mentioned that the whole thing was also a bit of a political project, so logistics weren't particularly straightforward during production. Get a load of this map:

Manufacture, assembly, transport, and logistics of various pieces of the Airbus A380. Final assembly in Toulouse.




That looks more like a child and/or sex-trafficking network than a normal business; even with all the weird EU rules and tax-dodges!

At least one person also wonders, about things like P2 and Gladio (and others) with those networks... ;)


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« Reply #843 on: February 14, 2019, 09:58:48 PM »
They have showers in them?    Ick.

Emirates first class.



A few airlines have lounge areas on them, which is actually an alright idea except that it's extra noise in the cabin.


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« Reply #844 on: February 14, 2019, 10:07:08 PM »
Emirates first class.



A few airlines have lounge areas on them, which is actually an alright idea except that it's extra noise in the cabin.

Not quite what I expected.  Normally I don't even want to take a squirt on an airplane if I can avoid it.
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2011/03/seat-29e.html

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« Reply #845 on: February 14, 2019, 11:16:59 PM »
So the question is why are the cranes on US aircraft carriers called "Tilly"?


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« Reply #846 on: February 15, 2019, 12:07:02 PM »
That looks more like a child and/or sex-trafficking network than a normal business; even with all the weird EU rules and tax-dodges!

At least one person also wonders, about things like P2 and Gladio (and others) with those networks... ;)

The BAE guys I worked with on JSF had some real horror stories about working with Airbus.  One guy made the analogy it was like ordering a sundae, but having to go to the UK for ice cream, Germany for the chocolate syrup, Italy for the whip cream, and France for the cherry.

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« Reply #847 on: February 15, 2019, 12:42:56 PM »
The BAE guys I worked with on JSF had some real horror stories about working with Airbus.  One guy made the analogy it was like ordering a sundae, but having to go to the UK for ice cream, Germany for the chocolate syrup, Italy for the whip cream, and France for the cherry.

Lol! And who wouldn't feel totally safe flying in an airframe assembled by lowest nation-state vendor bid... :o

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« Reply #848 on: February 15, 2019, 11:36:03 PM »
To be fair, Boeing also have fairly spread out parts production - they even have special 747s to carry components from where they're built in Japan to America.


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« Reply #849 on: February 18, 2019, 09:34:15 AM »
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/investigates/foreign-ownership-of-thousands-of-us-aircraft-cloaked-in-secrecy/287-959247e4-3aba-4c0a-a83b-639145e81a64
Nestled along the piney shores of an East Texas lake, Onalaska lacks an airport.  A WFAA review, however, has found more than 1,000 registered aircraft claiming an Onalaska address. That’s equivalent to one plane for every three Onalaska residents, which is more per capita than anywhere else in the country.  In fact, more planes are registered to Onalaska than the number of registered planes in entire cities such as Seattle, San Antonio, San Diego, or even New York.  Just as surprising, the aircraft are registered to only two Onalaska P.O. boxes. That’s because the aircraft owners do not live there. Not even close.


I recall similar such years ago with banks, trusts, firms, and some companies using some East Texas towns for P.O. and register and use jurisdiction to sue (friendly juries there) or do tax shenanigans.

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« Reply #850 on: February 19, 2019, 07:14:42 AM »
Indian Rays of the Sun  flight demo team crash



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« Reply #851 on: February 19, 2019, 11:16:47 AM »
To be fair, Boeing also have fairly spread out parts production - they even have special 747s to carry components from where they're built in Japan to America.

But they're not the airframe equivalent of FIAT, so there's that...

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I always did dig the counter-rotating props on the Bear.

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« Reply #852 on: February 19, 2019, 11:44:14 AM »
But they're not the airframe equivalent of FIAT, so there's that...

I always did dig the counter-rotating props on the Bear.


But you’re a desperately lonely idiot, so there’s that...

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« Reply #853 on: February 20, 2019, 08:34:57 PM »
Here is an Astonishing Legends show I look forward to hearing.

The topic is Gremlins.  Something that you would think would be covered more on these various podcasts.


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« Reply #854 on: February 20, 2019, 08:46:40 PM »
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/investigates/foreign-ownership-of-thousands-of-us-aircraft-cloaked-in-secrecy/287-959247e4-3aba-4c0a-a83b-639145e81a64

That article is a bit dumb - while it might be used for anonymity in some cases, the vast majority of the planes are registered in America so they can be operated under American laws.
The main reason I've heard people do it for is so their planes come under FAA maintenance regulations, which aren't as strict and expensive as say Australian ones. The pilots of (and maintenance people who work on) an American registered plane still need to be licensed and certified by the FAA, so they're getting background checked and are on records as being competent.

I didn't actually know that there was a requirement for registrants to be American citizens, but I'd have thought foreign owned planes operating under American regulations and paying fees to the US govt would be the kind of thing they'd want encouraged instead of limiting.

JF-17s escort Saudi Crown Prince’s jet when it entered Pakistan airspace:

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« Reply #855 on: February 21, 2019, 03:26:06 AM »

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« Reply #856 on: February 23, 2019, 03:15:57 AM »





Virgin Galactic Sends a Rocket Plane to Space Again, in Its Highest Flight Yet
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It was the company’s fifth supersonic-powered test flight, and it reached an altitude of nearly 56 miles before returning safely to the Mojave Desert runway in California where it took off. Beth Moses, an astronaut trainer and microgravity research expert, was in the cabin as the company’s first test passenger in space.



https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/22/science/virgin-galactic-space.html

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« Reply #857 on: February 25, 2019, 06:32:46 PM »
Ok boys,  how close was this to being a serious incident?



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« Reply #858 on: February 25, 2019, 10:58:40 PM »






nice debris field lol

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« Reply #859 on: February 28, 2019, 11:00:51 PM »
Boeing tanker jets grounded due to tools and debris left during manufacturing
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Boeing leadership was forced to ground its 767-based KC-46 tankers for the past week after the Air Force expressed concern about loose tools and other foreign object debris (FOD) found in various locations inside the completed airplanes, according to internal company memos.

During the process of building aircraft, all airframes are supposed to be routinely swept for any kind of foreign object debris — especially anything metal. A loose object left, say, inside a wall cavity or under a floor, is potentially dangerous because over time it could damage equipment or cause an electrical short.

“The 767 program has been scrambling to get our employees down south … to the MDC to clean FOD from our delivered tankers to get our aircraft back in the air,” the memo states.

The memo notes that eight tools were found in aircraft delivered to the MDC and two more in tankers delivered to the U.S. Air Force.



https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boeing-tanker-jets-grounded-due-to-tools-and-debris-left-during-manufacturing/



Meanwhile, in Ukraine...

Ukraine’s former chief of General Staff arrested, charged with high treason for weakening the air force
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The former chief of general staff for Ukraine’s military has been charged for high treason. Prosecutors say he had weakened the Air Force by disbanding air defense units and 19 air force formations while he was in charge of the military.

Retired Colonel General Volodymyr Zamana also failed to put up a credible defense of Crimea despite knowing the fact that Russia will soon invade, military prosecutors say.

“During his tenure as Chief of the General Staff, anti-aircraft missile divisions armed with the S-300V air defense missile systems were disbanded, namely those were the 874th anti-aircraft missile division, the 137th anti-aircraft missile brigade, the 5001st anti-aircraft missile division, the 281st anti-aircraft missile division of the 208th anti-aircraft missile brigade, 19 military air force units,” Chief Military Prosecutor Anatoliy Matios said at a press conference in Kyiv on Feb. 25.

http://alert5.com/2019/02/26/ukraines-former-chief-of-general-staff-to-be-charged-for-weakening-the-air-force/

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« Reply #860 on: March 07, 2019, 09:58:58 PM »
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NASA has used captured the first ever images of the interaction of shockwaves from two aircraft flying at supersonic speeds.
The pictures show a pair of T-38s from the US Air Force Test Pilot School flying in formation.

In order to capture the photographs, which were taken in monochrome and later colourised, NASA flew a plane outfitted with an updated imaging system at about 30,000 feet while the T-38s stayed in formation while flying at supersonic speeds at the precise moment they were under the camera.
The cameras, which record for a total of three seconds, had to begin recording at the exact moment the T-38s came into frame.



https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-08/nasa-captures-incredible-images-of-supersonic-shockwaves-intera/10882590

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« Reply #861 on: March 11, 2019, 05:18:15 AM »
This is an interesting article from November about the 737-Max system that seems to command nose down trim and which has been speculated to be the cause of the Lion Air crash:

https://theaircurrent.com/aviation-safety/what-is-the-boeing-737-max-maneuvering-characteristics-augmentation-system-mcas-jt610/


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« Reply #862 on: March 13, 2019, 05:30:21 PM »
Last Saturday I flew from Panama City, Panama to Miami in a Copa Airlines 737 Max.  Was much more concerned about safety and well-being driving in and around Miami to get to I75 West (Aligator Alley) on the way home   It seems like every Latino goes full kamikaze when he gets behind wheel. 

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« Reply #864 on: March 19, 2019, 07:30:49 PM »

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« Reply #866 on: March 25, 2019, 05:52:08 PM »
WTF. Pilots don't even notice? Flight from London Cty supposedly to go to Dusseldorf instead flown to Edinburgh. Hilarious but sort of nuts.


https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/25/british-airways-flight-bound-for-germany-lands-in-scotland-by-mistake.html 


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« Reply #867 on: March 27, 2019, 01:46:58 AM »
This article is worth a read:

Boeing Was ‘Go, Go, Go’ to Beat Airbus With the 737 Max
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/23/business/boeing-737-max-crash.html



WTF. Pilots don't even notice? Flight from London Cty supposedly to go to Dusseldorf instead flown to Edinburgh. Hilarious but sort of nuts.

From what I've read, it sounds like the flight plan the crew and ATC were given was for Edinburgh so they wouldn't have noticed. It's odder that the passengers or something didn't notice earlier.

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« Reply #868 on: March 27, 2019, 08:23:08 AM »
This article is worth a read:

Boeing Was ‘Go, Go, Go’ to Beat Airbus With the 737 Max
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/23/business/boeing-737-max-crash.html

The exact same scenario existed back in the 60s, Douglas was frantic to get the DC-10 certified and available to airlines ahead of Lockheed's L-1011.  There was a book written about all the shortcuts taken and questionable decisions made by Douglas and the FAA on the DC-10.

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« Reply #869 on: March 27, 2019, 09:50:04 AM »
The exact same scenario existed back in the 60s, Douglas was frantic to get the DC-10 certified and available to airlines ahead of Lockheed's L-1011.  There was a book written about all the shortcuts taken and questionable decisions made by Douglas and the FAA on the DC-10.
I still remember that horrific crash at O'Hare, when an AA DC-10 dropped an engine on the runway.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_191