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Critical Omissions with Douglas Dietrich
« Reply #15480 on: December 02, 2019, 07:29:50 PM »
Fair enough... I just know that as much as Norry sucks- there was a time when I listened quite often and posted here. I had said that I hoped he would be unceremoniously dumped from broadcasting- but in reality, I was enjoying myself too much to really hope for that.

With that said, Noory did not dox me, and it was not really a true hatred. That is mostly why I am wondering if there is a small part of Gunner who hopes that he keeps broadcasting- or if he really does hope the guy drops off the face of the earth.

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« Reply #15481 on: December 04, 2019, 09:48:49 PM »
During the show Dietrich made some comments which seemed to mock the writings of Moon about the Montauk Project and the people involved and Moon had to defend himself and those people and Moon made some corrections about Dietrich's version of history which seemed to catch Dietrich off guard and irritate him.. I could sense a tension rising between both of them. Perhaps Moon will now realize what an arrogant know it all piece of shit Dietrich really is and get the heck out of there asap. He should forget about the three books about Dietrich he said he was working on. The idea is ridiculous since everything Dietrich has been telling him has been lies and fantasy. Dietrich even said he would talk to Moon privately about how his father was involved in the Philadelphia Experiment! Just how much more of this nonsense can Moon take?  But Moon is too professional and courteous to allow his feelings to get the better of him no mater how much Dietrich upset him but I am sure he will call it quits and tell Dietrich go shove his lies up his ass.

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« Reply #15482 on: December 06, 2019, 02:43:00 PM »
Not a peep from Gunner. Must be busy with the harvest...LOL.
Dietrich has been silent too.


Dietrich's last shit show was a steaming load of fictitious anti-historical crap
« Reply #15483 on: December 06, 2019, 04:34:23 PM »
Dietrich's last shit show was a steaming load of fictitious anti-historical crap.

Part one

When Dietrich wasn't ranting leftist political ideology and defamation and slander of a long list of detractors and others, he was vomiting up revisions of history involving the first Naval battle of the Savo Islands, Guadalcanal (1942-43), the exposure of an entire division of US Marines to nuclear radiation (1945), and that an "Axis bomb" was transported to the US by Charles A. Lindburgh (1944) who was really a Nazi and eventually relocated to Argentina.

At 3:32:00, Dietrich recited a posting by one of his cult followers George Knight and inserted his own typical disjointed commentary claiming:

"After the US went nuclear and detonated the 'Fatman' (the plutonium bomb) and the axis bomb 'Little Boy' (uranium bomb) which itself was a mass-produced axis-standardized piece of ordinance, atomic ordinance but standardized nonetheless and this was standardized in mass-production because they had so much uranium by which to produce it, so one was of taken from, ah, uh, at the time the Americans were overrunning parts of Germany, actually was brought back by Charles Lindbergh under direct orders of Harry S. Truman"

Dietrich went on to claim that Lindbergh was a "friend" to the 3rd Reich and brought back the "Little Boy" bomb (how and when Lindbergh did this was not mentioned) because Truman had promised not to use it on Germany. And that Lindbergh spoke fluent German and had loyalty to Germany and had many Nazi connections. So much so that he actually relocated to Argentina following WW2.  Dietrich said "If the US had won the war they would have hanged Lindbergh as a traitor", but the Nazis demanded Lindbergh be left alone.  Dietrich called Lindbergh "the Benedict Arnold of World War Two."

Even a cursory search for any of this bullshit by anyone with a brain will show this to be false. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Lindbergh
I find this particularly disturbing because Charles A. Lindbergh was one of my heroes as a child, and even after researching the man's life (biographies) and history, still is.  This is yet another example of Dietrich's hateful and pathetic efforts to discredit established historical fact with propaganda. 

I could spend a great deal of time refuting Dietrichs' claims about Lindbergh. But would simply point out that Lindbergh was not the only famous person accused of being a Nazi sympathizer.  The awarding of a low level diplomatic medal by the Germans is often cited:

In 1938, Hugh Wilson, the American ambassador to Germany, hosted a dinner for Lindbergh with Germany's air chief, Hermann Göring and three central figures in German aviation, Ernst Heinkel, Adolf Baeumker, and Willy Messerschmitt. At this dinner Göring presented Lindbergh with the Commander Cross of the Order of the German Eagle. Lindbergh's acceptance proved controversial after Kristallnacht, an anti-Jewish pogrom in Germany a few weeks later. Lindbergh declined to return the medal, later writing, "It seems to me that the returning of decorations, which were given in times of peace and as a gesture of friendship, can have no constructive effect. If I were to return the German medal, it seems to me that it would be an unnecessary insult. Even if war develops between us, I can see no gain in indulging in a spitting contest before that war begins."[145] Regarding this, Ambassador Wilson later wrote to Lindbergh, "Neither you, nor I, nor any other American present had any previous hint that the presentation would be made. I have always felt that if you refused the decoration, presented under those circumstances, you would have been guilty of a breach of good taste. It would have been an act offensive to a guest of the Ambassador of your country, in the house of the Ambassador."[142]

In fact, three other Americans were presented the same award by the Germans prior to WW2:

Thomas J. Watson, chairman of IBM, 1937. Watson was also president of the International Chamber of Commerce in 1937; the medal was awarded while the ICC was meeting in Germany that year.[10]

James Mooney, General Motors' chief executive for overseas operations, was awarded Order of the German Eagle 1st Class.[2]

Ernest G. Liebold, Henry Ford's private secretary, was awarded Order of the German Eagle 1st Class in September 1938.[11]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_German_Eagle

I suspect that his involvement with isolationism, (as did Henry Ford before WW1) has much to do with Dietrichs shared agenda of disinformation and deceipt. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Committee

Lindbergh flew 50 combat missions in the Pacific during WW2. In his six months in the Pacific in 1944, Lindbergh took part in fighter bomber raids on Japanese positions, flying 50 combat missions (again as a civilian).[189] His innovations in the use of Lockheed P-38 Lightning fighters impressed a supportive Gen. Douglas MacArthur.[190] Lindbergh introduced engine-leaning techniques to P-38 pilots, greatly improving fuel consumption at cruise speeds, enabling the long-range fighter aircraft to fly longer range missions. P-38 pilot Warren Lewis quoted Lindbergh's fuel saving settings, “He said, ‘...we can cut the RPM down to 1400RPMs and use 30 inches of mercury (manifold pressure), and save 50 - 100 gallons of fuel on a mission.’”[191] The U.S. Marine and Army Air Force pilots who served with Lindbergh praised his courage and defended his patriotism.[188][192]

On July 28, 1944, during a P-38 bomber escort mission with the 433rd Fighter Squadron in the Ceram area, Lindbergh shot down a Mitsubishi Ki-51 "Sonia" observation plane, piloted by Captain Saburo Shimada, commanding officer of the 73rd Independent Chutai.[188][193]

Lindbergh's participation in combat was revealed in a copyrighted story in the Passaic Herald-News on October 22, 1944.[194]

In mid-October 1944, Lindbergh participated in a joint Army-Navy conference on fighter planes at NAS Patuxent River, Maryland.[195]

After the war, Lindbergh toured the Nazi concentration camps and wrote in his autobiography that he was disgusted and angered

After World War II, Lindbergh lived in Darien, Connecticut and served as a consultant to the Chief of Staff of the United States Air Force and to Pan American World Airways. With most of eastern Europe under Communist control, Lindbergh believed that his prewar assessments of the Soviet threat were correct. Lindbergh witnessed firsthand the defeat of Germany and the Holocaust, and Berg reported, "he knew the American public no longer gave a hoot about his opinions."

In 1954, on the recommendation of President Dwight D. Eisenhower, Lindbergh was commissioned a brigadier general in the U.S. Air Force Reserve. Also in that year, he served on a Congressional advisory panel that recommended the site of the United States Air Force Academy.

Lindbergh spent his last years on the Hawaiian island of Maui, where he died of lymphoma on August 26, 1974, at age 72. He was buried on the grounds of the Palapala Ho'omau Church in Kipahulu, Maui.

Dietrich then (5:33:00) presented (read from a source in his best "narrative voice"), the first Naval battle in the Guadalcanal campaign as a victory for the Japanese greater than Midway.  He said the invading US Marines were then totally cut off from resupply for 3 months and resorted to cannibalism to survive and of course Dietrich confirmed this by reading reports he destroyed.

What Dietrich neglected to contextualize in his recitation of the 30-minute engagement, is 1. There were 3 additional Naval battles related to Savo Island and Guadalcanal 2. The Japanese admiral Mikawa failed to destroy the American transports, a tactical mistake which allowed transports and other support ships to continue to re-supply the Marines for almost 6 months and 3. The Japanese failed to secure the Island and withdrew with heavy losses.  The Japanese offensive was broken and the Pacific War eventually won by the Allies.

"From the time of the battle until several months later, almost all Allied supplies and reinforcements sent to Guadalcanal came by transports in small convoys, mainly during daylight hours, while Allied aircraft from the New Hebrides and Henderson Field and any available aircraft carriers flew covering missions. During this time, Allied forces on Guadalcanal received barely enough ammunition and provisions to withstand the several Japanese drives to retake the islands.[29]"

"Despite their defeat in this battle, the Allies eventually won the battle for Guadalcanal, an important step in the eventual defeat of Japan. In hindsight, if Mikawa had elected to risk his ships to go after the Allied transports on the morning of August 9, he could have improved the chances of Japanese victory in the Guadalcanal campaign at its inception, and the course of the war in the southern Pacific could have gone much differently. Although the Allied warships at Guadalcanal that night were completely routed, the transports were unaffected. Many of these same transports were used many times to bring crucial supplies and reinforcements to Allied forces on Guadalcanal over succeeding months. Mikawa's decision not to destroy the Allied transport ships when he had the opportunity would prove to be a crucial strategic mistake for the Japanese.[1]:121"

"On December 12, the Japanese Navy proposed that Guadalcanal be abandoned. Despite opposition from Japanese Army leaders, who still hoped that Guadalcanal could eventually be retaken from the Allies, on December 31, 1942 Japan's Imperial General Headquarters, with approval from the Emperor, agreed to the evacuation of all Japanese forces from the island and the establishment of a new line of defense for the Solomons on New Georgia. The Japanese evacuated their remaining forces from Guadalcanal over three nights between February 2 and February 7, 1943, conceding the hard-fought campaign to the Allies. Building on their success at Guadalcanal and elsewhere, the Allies continued their campaign against Japan, ultimately culminating in Japan's defeat and the end of World War II.[44]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Savo_Island
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cape_Esperance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Battle_of_Guadalcanal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tassafaronga




VC

Dietrich's last shit show was a steaming load of fictitious anti-historical
« Reply #15484 on: December 06, 2019, 04:42:40 PM »
I hope Dietrich and/or his cohorts or supporters mentions your Gunner65 name and/or BG often in his rantings. What about in YT comments or chat too?

Or, is Dietrich not wanting the added controversy and traffic it might generate for all concerned?

Dietrich's last shit show was a steaming load of fictitious anti-historical
« Reply #15485 on: December 06, 2019, 04:58:04 PM »
I hope Dietrich and/or his cohorts or supporters mentions your Gunner65 name and/or BG often in his rantings. What about in YT comments or chat too?

Or, is he not wanting the added controversy and traffic it might generate for all concerned?
I anticipate Dietrich will continue with his slander of me.  But he will not mention Bellgab or my blog because he does not want his followers/listeners to discover the truth.  In the past few weeks, I have observed many guests to this thread. At one point there were almost 100 on a certain day/time.  Other days I have noted almost 50 for a sustained period of hours during the day.

I believe he can no longer use certain slander/defamation because he has embellished it to the point of uselessness.  So he has resorted to a ten-minute rant at the beginning and end of each shit show where he has "prepared" remarks.  His slander of me now seems to be restricted to the debunked "Mars Marine" bullshit.

You have made a very observant point here VC.  We will see what he does. As far as his live stream You Tube chat comments etc. he has his own cult followers functioning as moderators who will delete comments and ban/hide anyone challenging him. He also seems immune to any reports to You Tube regarding hate-speech etc.



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« Reply #15486 on: December 06, 2019, 05:11:54 PM »
Not a peep from Gunner. Must be busy with the harvest...LOL.
Dietrich has been silent too.
I have been busy Taffer. Harvest what with two feet of snow on the ground? There you go with your bullshit insinuations that I must be Douglas Dietrich. People like you are best ignored.

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« Reply #15487 on: December 06, 2019, 05:31:27 PM »
Anyway, from what Dietrich has divulged he may be facing a colonoscopy on Monday, December 9th. And will be taking his prescribed "potion" during his Sunday "shit show"  ;D

Any miscalculation may result in Dietrich's "shitting his bed". I would love to hear that live!

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« Reply #15488 on: December 06, 2019, 05:36:14 PM »

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« Reply #15489 on: December 06, 2019, 05:40:00 PM »

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« Reply #15490 on: December 06, 2019, 05:43:25 PM »

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« Reply #15491 on: December 06, 2019, 05:45:04 PM »
Good luck Douglas Dietrich...you fucking racist lying piece of shit!  ;D  Somehow, I think you might actually enjoy it and talk about it later!
Hell, you could convince Peter Moon to write about it for you and add a bit of science fiction to embellish or support it!  :o

Since your hoarding habits are so severe you cannot even have a space heater, I hope you have cleared a path to whatever "head" you have, in proximity to your bed! Otherwise, you are going to shit your bed!

And that is pitiful!  Really!  A guy who admits his house is so "hoarded" with clutter that he cannot deploy a space heater for risk of fire, is now telling people that he is going to be blowing shit out his ass - but others are the problem!

Are you fucking kidding me!?  I hope you shit all over your place Dietrich. 

Your best bet is to take your worthless ass to the hospital the night prior so you can shit yourself !

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« Reply #15492 on: December 06, 2019, 06:19:41 PM »
If nothing else, it will be an exercise in humility for which you are destined to face.

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« Reply #15493 on: December 06, 2019, 06:23:09 PM »
Only fitting you would get your "ass probed" on December 9.

Dietrich's last shit show was a steaming load of fictitious anti-historical crap
« Reply #15494 on: December 06, 2019, 07:57:34 PM »
Dietrich's last shit show was a steaming load of fictitious anti-historical crap
Part Two

Dietrich quoted a source as saying 10,000 US Marines died during and after WW2 of radiation poisoning.  Saying Marines of the 2nd Marine Division were tasked by order of the Japanese to "clean up" Hiroshima and Nagasaki and bury bodies.  Dietrich cited Greg Mitchell's book "The Atomic Coverup" published 12 July 2011





"Last Train from Hiroshima offers a "you are there" time capsule, gracefully wrapped in elegant prose. At the narrative's core are accounts, some eyewitness and some to still be substantiated, of those who experienced the atomic explosions firsthand - both Japanese civilians and American fliers in the air. Thirty people are known to have fled Hiroshima for Nagasaki - where they arrived just in time to survive the second bomb. According to Pellegrino, one of them is the only person who experienced the full effects at ground zero both times. Pellegrino weaves spellbinding stories together within a narrative that challenges the "official report", showing what happened - and providing an explanation into the why.

Recently, there have been questions about the accuracy of some parts of this book. At this time, Audible will continue to make it available to our customers, but we wanted to make you aware of the issues.
A Note from Henry Holt and Company and Macmillan Books:

"It is with deep regret that Henry Holt and Company announces that we will no longer print, correct or ship copies of Charles Pellegrino's The Last Train from Hiroshima due to the discovery of dishonest sources of information for the book. It is easy to understand how even the most diligent author could be duped by a source, but we also understand that this opens that book to very detailed scrutiny. The author of any work of non-fiction must stand behind its content. We must rely on our authors to answer questions that may arise as to the accuracy of their work and reliability of their sources. Unfortunately, Mr. Pellegrino was not able to answer the additional questions that have arisen about his book to our
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Dietrich claims he has a book written by Charles Pelligrino "The Last Train from Hiroshima: The Survivors Look Back" which he states is worth thousands of dollars because of a dispute with the publisher who recalled the book and ordered all copies burned or destroyed!:

The book was then edited and published as:



You can buy both for 30-60 dollars!

And the history contradicts Dietrich! He Contadicted himself!  The 2nd Marine Divsion did not "occupy" Nagasaki or Hisoshima. And the the deaths resulting from exposure were not as Dietrich claims.

But you can look that shit up yourself!








Dietrich's last shit show was a steaming load of fictitious anti-historical crap
« Reply #15495 on: December 06, 2019, 08:13:56 PM »
Dietrich quoted a source as saying 10,000 US Marines died during and after WW2 of radiation poisoning.  Saying Marines of the 2nd Marine Division were tasked by order of the Japanese to "clean up" Hiroshima and Nagasaki and bury bodies.  Dietrich cited Greg Mitchell's book "The Atomic Coverup" published 12 July 2011





"Last Train from Hiroshima offers a "you are there" time capsule, gracefully wrapped in elegant prose. At the narrative's core are accounts, some eyewitness and some to still be substantiated, of those who experienced the atomic explosions firsthand - both Japanese civilians and American fliers in the air. Thirty people are known to have fled Hiroshima for Nagasaki - where they arrived just in time to survive the second bomb. According to Pellegrino, one of them is the only person who experienced the full effects at ground zero both times. Pellegrino weaves spellbinding stories together within a narrative that challenges the "official report", showing what happened - and providing an explanation into the why.

Recently, there have been questions about the accuracy of some parts of this book. At this time, Audible will continue to make it available to our customers, but we wanted to make you aware of the issues.
A Note from Henry Holt and Company and Macmillan Books:

"It is with deep regret that Henry Holt and Company announces that we will no longer print, correct or ship copies of Charles Pellegrino's The Last Train from Hiroshima due to the discovery of dishonest sources of information for the book. It is easy to understand how even the most diligent author could be duped by a source, but we also understand that this opens that book to very detailed scrutiny. The author of any work of non-fiction must stand behind its content. We must rely on our authors to answer questions that may arise as to the accuracy of their work and reliability of their sources. Unfortunately, Mr. Pellegrino was not able to answer the additional questions that have arisen about his book to our


Dietrich claims he has a book written by Charles Pelligrino "The Last Train from Hiroshima: The Survivors Look Back" which he states is worth thousands of dollars because of a dispute with the publisher who recalled the book and ordered all copies burned or destroyed!:

The book was then edited and published as:



You can buy both for 30-60 dollars!
That guy Pelligrino has been on C2C before.

https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2019/02/15 

https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/04/08



Dietrich's last shit show was a steaming load of fictitious anti-historical crap
« Reply #15496 on: December 06, 2019, 08:20:17 PM »
That guy Pelligrino has been on C2C before.

https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2019/02/15 

https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/04/08
I bet he has an opinion of Dietrich...facts are Dietrich is full of shit!

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« Reply #15497 on: December 06, 2019, 08:29:25 PM »
And Dietrich better grab a bucket

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« Reply #15498 on: December 06, 2019, 09:35:07 PM »
And Albrect I do not have a paid subscription to C2C! So your post is mute.  I respect you but you give me BS I can neither see nor hear nor analyze

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« Reply #15499 on: December 06, 2019, 09:47:49 PM »
This is precisely what I am talking about.  Historians and Veterans who have the balls to engage in a discussion, not simply a "hit and run"

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« Reply #15500 on: December 06, 2019, 09:49:28 PM »
Show me where I am wrong and investigate me for yourself!

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« Reply #15501 on: December 06, 2019, 09:51:22 PM »
I will guarantee you we will find Douglas Dietrich to be a liar and a fraud.

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« Reply #15502 on: December 06, 2019, 09:53:19 PM »
And Albrect I do not have a paid subscription to C2C! So your post is mute.  I respect you but you give me BS I can neither see nor hear nor analyze
I was just referencing that the author had been on the show. Not his veracity, as you mentioned his publisher even had to suspend sales and/or revise books, or to give you "BS." If you have some basic skills you can find the shows, not saying they are of worth a listen, for free on the interwebs, torrents, etc. -Not that I am advocating downloading content for free without permission of copyright holder-

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« Reply #15503 on: December 06, 2019, 10:00:11 PM »
I was just referencing that the author had been on the show. Not his veracity, as you mentioned his publisher even had to suspend sales and/or revise books, or to give you "BS." If you have some basic skills you can find the shows, not saying they are of worth a listen, for free on the interwebs, torrents, etc. -Not that I am advocating downloading content for free without permission of copyright holder-
Yeah. And what Dietrich and his cult boy George Knight assert is the opposite!

You are a decent researcher yourself I know this...you cannot then attack me for not knowing!  You can only attack me for what you know~

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« Reply #15504 on: December 06, 2019, 10:00:59 PM »
Or think I know  It is a game of perception

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« Reply #15505 on: December 06, 2019, 10:03:54 PM »
Yeah. And what Dietrich and his cult boy George Knight assert is the opposite!

You are a decent researcher yourself I know this...you cannot then attack me for not knowing!  You can only attack me for what you know~
I wasn't attacking you.  :o I don't think? I just mentioned that the guy's book was redacted and then changed and so suspect as a source (that, apparently, DDD uses.) Now, as an author this could have been not his fault but sources were found to be false. History etc is always being revised as new information is found. On the other hand, there are also authors who cherry-pick or just plain make stuff up for sales. Or do the "I'm writing it as a fiction but it is 'true' but easier for the reader" crap.

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« Reply #15506 on: December 06, 2019, 10:05:35 PM »
If you don't believe I am Richard K Cole Jr, just say so! But I have presented my documents and you have not! Can you see where I am going with this?

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« Reply #15507 on: December 06, 2019, 10:08:41 PM »
This book series is NOT proof of what Douglas Dietrich claims!  He is NOT a historian!  History is revised! But it is also protected.  Douglas Dietrich cannot impact or change history.

Yet this is what Dietrich intends to do.  So what will you do?

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« Reply #15508 on: December 06, 2019, 10:15:36 PM »
You are not even HERE!

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« Reply #15509 on: December 06, 2019, 10:18:01 PM »
So unless you have the balls to figure it out and comment I would do some research.
 Dietrich can claim to be able to shit himself on December 9 but the world knows what Dietrich is.