I was asked by Michael Vandeven to respond to comments on this forum, which date back several years, and so I will take this opportunity to address the most current one.
First, with the exception of John Razimus, I see that there are no real people posting here, i.e. just a bunch of screen names where one would expect to see real, given names…if the people were honest, courageous enough to be themselves and of course actually...knowledgeable. (One commentor noted that Meier's name was spelled wrong by the rest of the "experts" here.) As someone who's been publicly presenting this material for almost 30 years, I've never been confronted or debated by anyone with these names, in fact with the exception of a couple of misguided and easily defeated radio hosts, no one has ever publicly debated me on the facts in the case…despite my willingness to do so.
In the pretend world of the online armchair experts, who have nothing better to do than display their ignorance and ineptitude, it's become acceptable not only to remain anonymous but to defame people one has never met, knows nothing about and whose character and accomplishments they can in no way ever hope to equal.
The "UFO experts" have succeeded in trivializing the topic to tabloid status…playing right into the hands of the disseminators of the disinformation in the first place, i.e. the intelligence, military, political, financial and religious interests. It's beyond ironic how all these geniuses have willingly spread falsehoods, lies, idiocy, etc. - while thinking they were doing exactly the opposite. BTW, if anyone's concerned about slander, etc., just read the comments above directed at Meier and me.
In the most current post here by John Razimus he repeats the same untrue, inaccurate, inane and unsubstantiated defamatory comments that he's made in his videos and Twitter account. In addressing these, many of the other equally ridiculous claims and attacks from the older comments may well be answered. Let's take them in order:
1. "The guy claims anyone who doesn't worship Billy Meier as the messiah of mankind is a coward, etc. etc."
MH: All that's necessary here is for Razimus to quote where I EVER said that. The truth is that I call him a coward because he has posted the defamatory attacks and run from being confronted by me in a live, broadcast debate on his factual accuracy. Of course I expect him to continue to do so. He's like the little bully who creeps up behind a kid, hits him in the back and then runs and hides behind his mother's skirts when he's about to get totally punched out.
2. "I really feel sorry for the UFO cult members suckered into the Meier trap."
MH: What "cult" is he talking about? I won't waste a lot of time with this here but it really helps to know what constitutes a cult and to be able to show that there actually is one in this case. My personal experience - over 36 years and 15 trips to Switzerland - has never revealed any kind of cult. Razimus' trips are solely inside his empty head.
3. "I did what many have done, made some obvious observations that one of Meier's flying saucer toys was made from a garbage can lid which is undeniable…"
MH: Razimus is not only incorrect, relying on thoroughly discredited information - Phil Langdon who promoted that theory failed also failed to show up for a debate he challenged me to on the William Piper show - he's failing to acknowledge that he was given links to the recent independent expert analysis of the WCUFO and to information showing how anyone, even a child, can prove the authenticity of the WCUFO themselves. His only response was to attempt to attack the credibility of the analysis but he failed to understand that the protocols were included so that anyone could duplicate the testing themselves, in accordance with the scientific method…something Razimus doesn't have even a nodding acquaintance with.
4. "Michael Horn wanted to debate me on Art Bell's new show but Art doesn't seem to want anything to do with it…"
MH: This is simply another lie. It was Razimus who tried to make a debate with him contingent upon Art Bell's hosting it, when Bell had nothing to do with it. Here is one of a number of his Tweets to that effect:
"Jun 19, .@Michael812 Have you emailed Art Bell @ArtBell51 like I have? Email Art to prove you have the stomach to debate me #billymeierdebate #ufo"
He also mentions his emailing Art Bell here: http://hoaxhunter.blogspot.com/2015/06/john-razimus-is-ready-to-debate-michael.html
It should be obvious to anyone that Razimus is a cowardly, immature, inept attention seeker who doesn't have the faintest clue as to what he's talking about, which is pretty much the standard in this field anyway. And, for those who care about such things, he's a blatant liar who's accusing good, honest people of lying.
The whole UFO topic is dealt with as simply high entertainment by most people, especially online, etc. It's a refuge for the most unscientific, unqualified people who wouldn't be able to conduct themselves similarly in any other field, where the scientific method and standard investigative procedures are applied. It's all part of what I refer to as the UFOCI, the UFO Community and…Industry. This is a BIG business for vast numbers of people and it's been conducted as such…at great, great cost to humankind.
I didn't load this response up with links to the voluminous amount of substantiated evidence, prophetic scientific information, etc., since the purpose was to address the unsubstantiated claims of a nasty, stubbornly deceitful wannabe who thought he could get away with his dishonest attacks. All of the other nonsense by the various "experts" on this forum - who have ZERO verifiable expertise in ANYTHING - have long been refuted, which anyone can determine by doing just a little bit of research. And that includes the claims by pseudo-scientist Stuart Robbins, another…rabbit running from the truth.
I will add that we are now in the long foretold and forewarned times that Billy Meier has written about, since 1951. For those who've been paying attention, who've been noticing, things are…changing. And not for the better. The very specific things Meier and the Plejaren warned about - for decades - are now upon us and can no longer be prevented.
As they continue to unfold, all of the useless gibberish from the know-nothing defamers and self-styled "UFO experts" will not only be irrelevant but a painful testament to the utterly inane, short-sighted, superficial, greedy, life-wasting, squandered opportunity to benefit from the great gifts freely given to us by an actual advanced, space traveling extraterrestrial human race and their contactee Billy Meier, who happens to be the only authentic contactee and the prophet for the New Time. These are simply statements of facts, not of exclusivity, nor for the sake of celebrity, personal gain, etc., as will become inescapably obvious in the coming time.
Circus clowns like John Razimus simply epitomizes the shallow, completely dishonest, incompetent, self-deluded, insignificant and unaccomplished human beings who trivialize life itself and try to tear down those who would bring the truth to humankind.
If anyone here is sincerely interested in the Meier case, and has questions for which they haven't found the answers (start by searching www.theyfly.com
), I'll try to provide them or show you where they can be found.
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"But, to reflect on the statement that's in the film, I also remember seeing a shot on the Super8 reel that showed a UFO circling around a fairly tall tree. According to that shot, we said that we can't conclusively say whether it's real or not, but it seemed impossible to stage that kind of a shot with a miniature (it would have to be hanging on a very tall crane, with wires - but even then the movements would be hard to achieve.) So, yes, in regards to that shot, we mentioned that we could definitely do it today with CG, but at the time these were supposedly shot - it would have been very hard, probably even impossible, to fake this kind of shot."
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Here is just a sample of what the media is saying about Michael Horn:
Even nationally syndicated conservative talk radio host Michael Medved had to admit “… Look, I’m intrigued by this because, again, some seemingly very bright people seem to believe this. Michael, I appreciate your spirit of openness and sharing all of this with us and your willingness to bring us all up to date on the Billy Meier controversy involving flying saucers and extraterrestrials.”
- Michael Medved - National talk radio host
"I enjoyed visiting with you on the air very much and the audience enjoyed it as well judging by the amount of positive e-mail. We should do this again some time and I look forward to meeting you in person out there where the weather is so much nicer!"
- John B. Wells - Coast to Coast AM
"Thanks very much! Our audience loves this topic."
- Alan Colmes Show - Fox News
“Michael Horn has appeared on Kevin Smith Show several times, and he is always a fascinating guest with a powerful command of his information. He does not demand that others believe his information, but very politely presses them to know his information and investigate it. One thing he does that makes his appearances stand out is that he provides a lot of corroborating evidence from other sources. It is always a pleasure to have Michael Horn on the Kevin Smith Show.”
- Kevin Smith, Host – Kevin Smith Show
“… And that is without a doubt the best show that I think I’ve ever done on the Meier case. Actually, I didn’t do it, I just hosted it. Michael Horn did it so he goes down as the best spokesman for Meier that I’ve ever had on.”
- Art Bell - Coast to Coast AM (after interviewing Michael for four hours)
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"You're a fantastic guest!"
- Ian Punnett - Coast to Coast AM (after interviewing Michael for three hours)
And, typical of the effect that Michael is making nationwide, mainstream talk radio host Karen Grant summed it up perfectly “Michael is a phenomenal guest. Whether you are a skeptic or not, he brings information that is fascinating and keeps the audience glued to their radios. The responses I receive after he has been on my show have been overwhelming. The one guest you want to have when it comes to the Meier case and contacts in general.”
- Karen Grant - National talk radio host
"Michael Horn, always a fascinating guest when he appears on Coast to Coast."
- George Noory - Talk radio host
"Thanks again for doing my show a few weeks ago. I rarely get email from listeners but I did get a few that really enjoyed hearing you and wanted your website info."
- Arielle Ford - Talk radio host, leading publicist
Regarding Michael's presentation of the scientific proof for the Billy Meier UFO contacts, and the prophetic material (documented and published by Billy Meier in 1975, 1987 and 1995) that specifically gave advance warning of the destruction of the WTC, the upcoming attacks by the USA and the president, and other events unfolding right now...legendary, conservative talk show host Barry Farber said:
"... I didn't dream I could ever enjoy a discussion of this nature, but Michael, you amaze me. It's supremely enjoyable...If you can prove one of them...then you're gonna change the world. I'm sitting here as a fascinated listener and talk host having a good hour. But if you can prove that anything [like that] came down...then I'm telling you pal, you're wasting time on the Barry Farber Show. You can change the world... It was a delight! You handle skepticism well and kept things going briskly. I've already put your material in the "volcano" file" meaning hot guests who are welcome repeatedly on the show."
- Barry Farber - Talk radio host
"You were great! You are very articulate and knowledgeable. I thoroughly enjoyed our chat and I hope you did, too. Would you like to come back on in the future? I appreciate you coming on and you were such a gentleman and very charitable about the questions. Thank you so much."
- Gianni De Vincent Hayes - Christian talk radio host