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Random Topics / Re: Ask Liberace Anything
« on: October 12, 2018, 04:29:13 PM »

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Great video, only 25% of us have an inner dialog?

Oh no...that it so Shrillary:



But to his point she likely does, as too Soros, it's just an EVIL inner dialog.

And yeah I've seen the cracks in Jordan Peterson's schtick too.

 ???


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Politics / Re: dude weed lol
« on: October 12, 2018, 04:09:48 PM »
That's not my argument.

Actually it HAS largely been your "argument"...

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You keep quoting criminals and traitors. It's not terribly persuasive./quote]

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Your arguments aren't really sound here. Check for an update from your handler.

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I really don't think you've thought this through. I really don't.

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Given that you're quoting a known traitor with an established agenda and zero credibility ("this kind of ethanol, but not that kind"), it's difficult to hypothesize what you're imagining that you're wondering about.

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I do not think you are clear on what 'wonder' means. I really don't.

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Keep studying.

See it's that kind of fact-free obfuscation that dulls your point. Stick to the hard data and account for the major market forces and players and this becomes a useful chew toy.

Play shoot the messenger and allude to palliatives that have largely been stymied isn't a winning hand of cards.

You do recall what happened to most of Obummer's green energy miracle companies, yes?

https://www.dailysignal.com/2012/10/18/president-obamas-taxpayer-backed-green-energy-failures/

The complete list of faltering or bankrupt green-energy companies:

Evergreen Solar ($25 million)*
SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
Solyndra ($535 million)*
Beacon Power ($43 million)*
Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)
SunPower ($1.2 billion)
First Solar ($1.46 billion)
Babcock and Brown ($178 million)
EnerDel’s subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
Amonix ($5.9 million)
Fisker Automotive ($529 million)
Abound Solar ($400 million)*
A123 Systems ($279 million)*
Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($700,981)*
Johnson Controls ($299 million)
Brightsource ($1.6 billion)
ECOtality ($126.2 million)
Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*
Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
Range Fuels ($80 million)*
Thompson River Power ($6.5 million)*
Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)*
GreenVolts ($500,000)
Vestas ($50 million)
LG Chem’s subsidiary Compact Power ($151 million)
Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*
Navistar ($39 million)
Satcon ($3 million)*
Konarka Technologies Inc. ($20 million)*
Mascoma Corp. ($100 million)
*Denotes companies that have filed for bankruptcy.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2012/10/18/president-obamas-taxpayer-backed-green-energy-failures/

That's what happens when gubmint tries to pick winners in the "free marketplace" - always....

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https://www.teaparty.org/disgruntled-democrats-want-constitutional-convention-leave-union-205051/
(NTK Network) – On Tuesday, disgruntled Democrats held a forum to discuss the possibility of replacing the Electoral College.

Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) conceded that Democrats could not get rid of the Electoral College due to the way the United States Constitution is written.

“I don’t think we can sustain our American democracy by having the majority ruled by the minority. And so the question is how to fix this since the Constitution is written in such a way that it’s almost impossible to amend,” Lofgren said.

Lofgren went on to say she is open to a Constitutional Convention, “We are three states away from calling for a Constitutional Convention. It’s something I’ve always been opposed to, …. But I’ll say because, for the second time in sixteen years, people the American voters elected did not become president. Rational people, not the fringe, are now talking about whether states could be separated from the U.S., whether we should have a Constitutional Convention. And I think as time goes on that is apt to become more the case unless we here can figure an answer to preventing the majority from being ruled by the minority.

 >:( >:( >:(

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Politics / Re: dude weed lol
« on: October 12, 2018, 03:56:39 PM »
I hadn't realized how bereft of actual data you are. 'Shoot the messenger' is a failed argumentation from the get go.


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Politics / Re: Random Political Thoughts
« on: October 12, 2018, 03:53:59 PM »
I think it'll take too long to get them all back up in there, frankly. Surely there's another solution.

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Politics / Re: dude weed lol
« on: October 12, 2018, 03:50:28 PM »
Fuck them.

You've found some masterful way to get around them?

Share.

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So build them.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/let-american-farmers-grow-hemp-once-again-create-jobs-and-rebuild-rural-economy/

And then what happens if Trump doesn't stay past 2020?

I mean i suppose we could hope the dems would pander for votes there and keep it rolling, but somehow that never seems to happen.

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Your arguments aren't really sound here.

Oh?

If so we'd have a viable, if not burgeoning, switchgrass ethanol industry by now, wouldn't we?

From 2010:

https://www.manufacturing.net/article/2010/08/25-million-acres-corn-nowhere-go

The EPA projections are:

Switchgrass (perennial grass): 7.9 Bgy
Soy biodiesel and corn oil: 1.34 Bgy
Crop residues (corn stover, includes bagasse): 5.5 Bgy
Woody biomass (forestry residue): 0.1 Bgy
Corn ethanol: 15.0 Bgy
Other (municipal solid waste): 2.6 Bgy
Animal fats and yellow grease: 0.38 Bgy
Algae: 0.1 Bgy
Imports: 2.2 Bgy
The EPA and USDA differ materially on switchgrass and other energy grasses (the USDA projecting 13.4 Bgy from this source), and both groups have not considered the use of short-term wood biomass crops, such as poplar.

Why is this news? Monsanto has projected that corn yields will reach an average of 300 bushels per acre by 2030, and Ceres CEO Richard Hamilton has stated that he is comfortable with a range of 12 tons per acre for switchgrass yields by 2022, based on current trends.


https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/us-bioenergy-statistics.aspx

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Check for an update from your handler.

I don't rate enough to have a "handler", sorry... :'(


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Politics / Re: dude weed lol
« on: October 12, 2018, 03:01:19 PM »
I really don't think you've thought this through. I really don't.

bleeding = mass market forces (big oil/corn/et al.)

edge = hemp/switchgrass

tech = lack of actual refineries

...I love the smell of fry oil diesel and the idea of hemp ethanol. But I've seen what Obummer and Biden did to "green energy".

 :(

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Politics / Re: dude weed lol
« on: October 12, 2018, 02:44:34 PM »
Just need cars that run on the oil from fried Twinkie’s and we’re set. Renewable energy!

BioWillie!

Unfortunately market forces punished the alternative.

https://www.glocktalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.5yearcharts.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F04%2Fcrude-oil-vs-cpi-5y.png&hash=a191ae21dd3a4691a8ca183eb0311d31

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Politics / Re: dude weed lol
« on: October 12, 2018, 02:41:01 PM »
Growing weed... is "bleeding edge?" Humans have been doing it for thirteen thousand years. Reconcile.

Distillation to ethanol functionally speaking is bleeding edge weed tech.

Which partly why it never panned out past subsidy.

Big awl don't like to play with weeds.

https://junkscience.com/2011/12/wsj-the-cellulosic-ethanol-debacle/

"An October 2011 report on biofuels by the National Academy of Sciences concluded that the mandates “may be an ineffective way to reduce global greenhouse gas emissions.” Because production is so low, advanced cellulosic fuels also do very little to reduce U.S. dependence on foreign oil. The report notes that “currently, no commercially viable biorefineries exist for converting cellulosic biomass to fuel.”

Why? Because of what the National Academy report calls “the high cost of producing cellulosic biofuels compared with petroleum-based fuels, and uncertainties in future biofuel markets.” The report does say that technological breakthroughs could make cellulosic fuels cost-competitive in the future, but that same leap of faith has driven subsidies to alternative energy for 40 years.

To recap: Congress subsidized a product that didn’t exist, mandated its purchase though it still didn’t exist, is punishing oil companies for not buying the product that doesn’t exist, and is now doubling down on the subsidies in the hope that someday it might exist. We’d call this the march of folly, but that’s unfair to fools. [Emphasis added]"

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/410675-oil-industry-green-groups-join-to-oppose-trumps-ethanol-plan

The oil industry, however, has a different concern. They’re worried that the change would reduce the incentive for the ethanol and corn industries to negotiate major reforms to the Renewable Fuel Standard, the federal policy that requires fuel refiners to blend specified amounts of ethanol into gasoline.

Oil companies also stand to sell less traditional gasoline, while their costs could go up, if Trump’s plan is implemented.

“I can’t overstate how disappointed we are with this decision by the president,” said Chet Thompson, president of American Fuel and Petrochemical Manufacturers, which represents fuel refiners.
Environmental advocates and the oil industry both say the new policy would violate a Clean Air Act provision that limits the volatility of fuels that can be sold. The EPA has concluded numerous times, most recently in 2011, that allowing E15 in the summer — when ozone pollution levels are highest — would violate the law.

“What he’s telling EPA to do is unlawful,” said Thompson. “If the president moves forward, it leaves us zero options but to challenge it.”


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Radio and Podcasts / Re: The Michael Decon Program
« on: October 12, 2018, 02:31:50 PM »


"They Live!"


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Random Topics / Re: Ask Liberace Anything
« on: October 12, 2018, 02:21:02 PM »

... he did? So lonely.

Well I saw some posts there in the main forum from you (not very many) so...didn't he?


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Politics / Re: dude weed lol
« on: October 12, 2018, 02:17:50 PM »
Given that you're quoting a known traitor with an established agenda and zero credibility ("this kind of ethanol, but not that kind"), it's difficult to hypothesize what you're imagining that you're wondering about.

That is the point in analyzing what really happens when gubmint runs into bleeding edge farm subsidy tech, no?

Ergo "King Corn"...Roundup, terminator seeds...duh...

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You're better than this. Can't you renew your schtick?

Until we get some cranium rattling leftards in here to light up, it'll be scout team silage reps only.

 :-\

 

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Random Topics / Re: Ask Liberace Anything
« on: October 12, 2018, 02:11:54 PM »
There simply is no level of depravity to which that degenerate will not sink. Appalling.

Bart paroled you from his cuckshack for what reason???

 :-X

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Random Topics / Re: Ask Liberace Anything
« on: October 12, 2018, 02:10:05 PM »
Thank You!   ;D :-*

Yes, I was informed about how he has childishly defaced my posts announcing that Bellgab was back online.   ;D

Near as I can tell from my cuckshack window the only sin you ever committed there was liking HLW.

Now there's some crime against the parapodverse, eh?

 :(

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Politics / Re: dude weed lol
« on: October 12, 2018, 02:03:44 PM »
Well I'm not wondering about yield.

 :o

https://junkscience.com/2011/12/wsj-the-cellulosic-ethanol-debacle/
WSJ: The Cellulosic Ethanol Debacle

“Congress mandated purchase of 250 million gallons in 2011. Actual production: 6.6 million.”

The Wall Street Journal editorializes,

‘We’ll fund additional research in cutting-edge methods of producing ethanol, not just from corn but from wood chips and stalks or switch grass. Our goal is to make this new kind of ethanol practical and competitive within six years.”

—George W. Bush, 2006 State of the Union address

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Random Topics / Re: Ask Liberace Anything
« on: October 12, 2018, 01:59:17 PM »
Doesn't he have anything better to do than hang around a website that doesn't want him?



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Sorry, silly question... :-[


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Random Topics / Re: Ask Liberace Anything
« on: October 12, 2018, 01:55:16 PM »
I had my fun with those stupid twats. Then I got bored. I’d say that’s pretty typical alpha behavior.  :P

...and had a smoke afterward...lol...


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Radio and Podcasts / Re: Best of Styx
« on: October 12, 2018, 12:48:04 PM »

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Politics / Re: dude weed lol
« on: October 12, 2018, 12:43:38 PM »
I wonder...is hemp the next switchgrass?

 ???




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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: October 12, 2018, 12:37:47 PM »

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: October 12, 2018, 12:17:08 PM »

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Random Topics / Re: Ask Liberace Anything
« on: October 12, 2018, 12:14:47 PM »

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Politics / Re: dude weed lol
« on: October 12, 2018, 12:11:42 PM »



word

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Random Topics / Re: Sardine Talk/Rate The Sardines
« on: October 12, 2018, 12:09:11 PM »

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Politics / Re: dude weed lol
« on: October 12, 2018, 11:57:39 AM »
You have roped me in Jackstar!





 ;D ;D ;D

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: October 12, 2018, 11:54:57 AM »
https://classicrock939.com/2018/10/11/mike-love-jeff-skunk-baxter-and-sam-moore-join-president-trump-at-white-house-for-signing-of-the-music-modernization-act/
The Beach Boys‘ Mike Love, ex-Doobie Brothers guitarist Jeff “Skunk” Baxter and soul legend Sam Moore of Sam & Dave were among the well-known music artists who showed up at the White House on Thursday to stand by President Donald Trump as he signed the Music Modernization Act into law.
The Music Modernization Act changes how songwriters and publishers are paid for their songs played on digital streaming services. Specifically, it improves the process by which rights holders are paid when their music is streamed online, and provides a legal process for artists to receive unclaimed royalties. Additionally, royalties will be paid to songwriters and artists for songs recorded before 1972.
Love spoke at the event, and shared that Trump had once tried to help the late Whitney Houston with her drug-abuse issues.
“[You] tried your best to help Whitney. And she’s not the only one you’ve benefited,” said Love. “And people can say what they want, but you’ve always been a big supporter of some of the best music that America’s ever made.”
Moore also spoke, calling the legislation a “historic bill,” and noting that it was something that President Obama couldn’t get done.


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Random Topics / Re: Sardine Talk/Rate The Sardines
« on: October 12, 2018, 11:49:01 AM »
Yes.  King Oscar is the only sardine as far as I am concerned.  I can still see Grandma lining them up carefully on rough bread, for herself.  They were not squandered on children.
Very classy indeed!

Let the nippers feast on:


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