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Quote from: TigerLily on December 14, 2015, 12:21:36 AM
I'll bite

I love Art and Red...but I'm not biting anymore... They need to earn my loyalty and dollars...

Quote from: nooryisawesome on December 14, 2015, 12:19:22 AM
Kanpp probably could have got a job doing it full time. However, he doesn't want to do it full time. He really doesn't even want to do it part time as he has missed time writing a book, and concentrating on his reporter gig. Knapp already has a full time job as a reporter, and has stated numerous times he is not leaving that job to do radio full time.

Why does he continue then?

Quote from: trostol on December 13, 2015, 11:40:13 PM
Art Bell
Just now ·
Just a thought, if Heather does well and I am sure she will and if things are quite here for some time I may do a unannounced fill in once in a while. The biggest problem I had was the exact routine I had to follow with this stalking jerk. We are watching every car on our street and there have been a few. Living life like this is less fun.

Red is a capable professional... She will make it on her own, without the need for an Art Bell random appearance. ..

Go get them Red!

Quote from: (Redacted) on December 14, 2015, 12:01:27 AM
I am grateful beyond words to have the chance to keep the fire lit for Art... it's been... emotional.  I will cover many of your favorite topics; suggestions are still, and always welcome.  I do not have the science background Art has, but have a healthy curiosity of everything science related, especially AI. 

I am not Art, but there will be a noticeable Art influence, for I know no other way to do this.

If it is quiet at Art's place for a length of time, he may make un-announced appearances from time to time.  I have told him anytime he is ready, the show is his on a moment's notice, for it is his rightful place.

God speed and good luck!

Quote from: (Redacted) on December 13, 2015, 11:41:41 PM
Everything ok in here?  How many arms have been chewed off today?   

Red...please make a statement for the opportunity Art says he's giving you...what is your new show going to be about?

Quote from: (Redacted) on December 13, 2015, 11:41:41 PM
Everything ok in here?  How many arms have been chewed off today?   

Hi Red.. No, nothing ok...we are Art Bell fans..

Quote from: trostol on December 13, 2015, 11:37:17 PM
another issue is...really..the guests do the circuit..all the same shows so in the end there is very little new ..news to report

Exactly ..goes back to the small market explanation. .

Quote from: JamesMcDonald on December 13, 2015, 11:23:56 PM
Yeah.  If I had to take a stab at it, I'd say it had something to do with the genesis of Art's career.  He's basically always been into ham radios and it's like his shows grew out of that inherent desire to reach out and talk to the world and listen back to what the world had to say.  It was a natural growth as opposed to just another guy who went to journalism school then sought out a job at a radio station.

Good points...and he was a trusted purveyor of truth...a Mulder on the radio...powerful

Quote from: JamesMcDonald on December 13, 2015, 11:18:06 PM
It's a great question.  I've wondered about this for decades.

Lol seems silly...I loved Art's old shows...but its just an old radio show...can't recapture our youth let alone an old program from am radio

Maybe not enough people care about these topics to have any influence.

I'm just deluding myself... There is no market here...

Am I wrong?

Quote from: trostol on December 13, 2015, 11:05:14 PM
the alternatives atm that run in bear the same time slot

C2C
JBW
Ground Zero
Schrader

probably a few others

Yup...if they were of quality... They would be #1 in the ratings...even if there was a conspiracy, online subscriptions would prove otherwise

Quote from: Gumby, Dammit on December 13, 2015, 11:01:58 PM
Maybe you came in with George and didn't here Art back in the day.
And Dickless Dave's "popularity" quotient is manufactured. Yeah, sad is right.

I was listening in the 90's...but if there is a superior alternative... It will win out...I think the market is too small...

Quote from: trostol on December 13, 2015, 11:01:01 PM
it is probably combo of things...ability, time slot..over saturation of the "product"

I think that's the issue... Small market...people up late listening to talk radio...

Quote from: jazmunda on December 13, 2015, 10:55:49 PM
This.

Mozart was an alternative to Beethoven... That's my point...

Quote from: Gumby, Dammit on December 13, 2015, 10:54:50 PM
There's a simple explanation.

And here it is:

ART is the consummate interviewer, easily reading a guest's logic and  thought-vectors, plying reason and sometimes random tangents with conversational aplomb.

ART's style is solid as a rock, for which any guest no matter how nervous or insane can cling to and have fun despite themselves. This is why he's so good with newer guests and why the old crowd of manipulators had him at a disadvantage.

ART has individual STYLE that is unassuming and casual. His voice anchors the night unlike anything. There is no pretense other than what he wills-out with a tacit P.T. Barnum understanding: yer gonna be rocked tonight.

ART has ZERO phony "radio voice" affect, i.e. unlike sublime assholes like George Noory and his intolerable nauseation, along with 99.999% of other radio hosts. Art is Mr. Natural himself.

There are more I can think of. But THIS is why, I think, We all love ART the most. Because he is one COOL MOTHERFUCKER and we all know it. We'll miss him because he's what's missing most in our lives these days: GENUINE talent and mastery of communicating with others.

Dammit, Art.

Ok, so being an "art" is more complicated than being Elvis...

I'm just not sold on there being only one...but reality is only Dave is closest in popularity... Sad

Quote from: K_Dubb on December 13, 2015, 10:24:38 PM
For me it's entirely style and delivery.  Both Art and Knapp are throwbacks in their style and have so thoroughly become the characters they play over the years that they seem wholly unaffected, unlike Wells, for example.  Their voices are right out of film noir, giving the ridiculous subjects they cover a gravitas that makes it easier to believe, or suspend disbelief, for a while.  Hosts of a younger generation just sound whiny, embarrassed or self-regarding.  They just don't make them like that any more.

A deeper connection... I can understand that... But life often reminds us of it's inherent capriciousness...

Quote from: The General on December 13, 2015, 10:22:10 PM
Why has there never been an acceptable alternative for..
Coffee?  Beer?
Stevie Wonder?
Chocolate chip cookies?
Mozart?  Beethoven?

Because when you define the very genre, you're irreplaceable.
I don't want to listen to some dipshit talking about paranormal shit,
I want to listen to my friend Art talk to crazy people.  It's not about the paranormal.
It's about Art Bell being a riveting radio host, entertainer, and interviewer.

I want Art Bell...regardless of the topic...that is a start explaining things...

Quote from: Paper*Boy on December 13, 2015, 10:19:24 PM
Because up and coming broadcasters don't want their careers 'locked' into a kook genre?

Then that explains it...political folk believe it is a calling... This genre really has no legs...the market is too small...that explains the issue...

Quote from: norland2424 on December 13, 2015, 10:15:13 PM
I think the problem has been coast 2 coast, yea alot of us dislike noory but for every one of us there are more idiots who are content with noory.

McDonald's is falling from Grace for those seeking quality...perhaps late night talk can find a renaissance...

Why has there never been an alternative to Art?

Rush has dozens of alternatives that have been on the air for years...

Why can't there be one for Art? Yea, Dave sucks...George Knapp is loved, but why hasn't he been offered full time pay?

Why is it Art or nothing?

Quote from: K_Dubb on December 13, 2015, 09:25:52 PM
I'm supporting in the (desperate) hope of any alternative to the vacuity that is Dave.

Alternative to Dave.... Everything Else! Music, George Knapp, Meditation, Silence, a Hobby, Sex, Masturbation...etc

Quote from: Freyja on December 13, 2015, 09:14:54 PM
I think it may be time to let go...it's OVER.

According to Art, Airyn said quit or else and Art did...end of story.

All the other speculation and options are a mute point now.

Yup...Art's past successes gives him options... Good for him...

Quote from: K_Dubb on December 13, 2015, 09:10:11 PM
You're supposed to sign up to show your support.

Wish Art all the best...but support...not my responsibility...

For the love of God, Keith still has "Become a Time Traveler" banner ads at artbell.COM.

Stop the madness!

Quote from: PrairieGhost on December 13, 2015, 08:58:42 PM
I just like radio and I'm going for it... I do hope DMDN keeps going though. I want everyone to do well.

Realistically DMDN is gone...the shows that were on it may continue if there is enough demand...perhaps they can continue on your new network... Do what you love! Everything else will work out! God speed!

Quote from: PrairieGhost on December 13, 2015, 08:37:21 PM
The new Dark City will be rescheduled because technical difficulties / windows sucks!

Things happen! MIB!

Good move starting your own network... Smart!

Quote from: trostol on December 13, 2015, 08:46:25 PM
Don't call it a comeback
I been here for years
Rockin my peers and puttin suckas in fear
Makin the tears rain down like a MON-soon
Listen to the bass go BOOM
Explosion, overpowerin
Over the competition, I'm towerin
Wreckin shop, when I drop these lyrics that'll make you call the cops
Don't you dare stare, you betta move
Don't ever compare
Me to the rest that'll all get sliced and diced
Competition's payin the price

Cool...

Has Art announced his comeback yet?

Quote from: VoteQuimby on December 13, 2015, 04:05:07 PM
It's amazing how fast this went completely to hell. Art is posting about open lines on Friday, then a hour later announces he's quitting then a few hours later Keith pulls the plug, then one of Art's biggest affiliates bails and now we've got Heather or Art replays for 30 days to fulfill the contracts. In the process this fucked literally dozens of people, destroyed about two and half years or work and completely disgraced Art. All of it falling apart in hours.

I guess the terrorists won.

That means it was always balancing on the edge of a knife... My gut felt that, but I was trying to be optimistic... You can never go home...why?...home isn't just a place, but a place in time...lost to the echos of the past...dust in the wind...

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 13, 2015, 02:52:16 PM
SNAFU?

Probably... Jilted lovers? Mildly annoyed clientele?