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Quote from: Zenman on October 09, 2017, 12:28:52 AM
This article makes it sound like Trump ordered Pence to walk out of the Colts game earlier today. The TV news all evening made it sound like it was Pence's idea. Either way--GIVE ME AN EFFING BREAK!

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on October 09, 2017, 01:34:17 AM
One of the illiterate ballplayers accused Pence of a premeditated PR stunt.  Of course the player's actions aren't premeditated PR stunts.

The players "stunt" didn't cost the tax players one single dollar. Pence stunt does. Remember Conservative, this is the type of thing you hated

Did he pay for ticket? He certainly didn't pay for his travel, what about added security personal and for the stadium for him to go to perform this meaningless stunt. After Tom Price and the question of many others in the administration abusing their privilege . Drain the swamp indeed

We aren't even talking the bitch factor. Something you complain about for weeks, go to the event anyway, the thing you complain in the first place happens at said event, leave event, cry and complain about it on social media. Come on, how old are we here. It's amazing everything the right used to mock the left for from celebrity worship to snowflakery they are now acting it out in full since Trump arrived.

Not even getting to the gong show that Trump HAS to make it about himself and Pence story of it being "spontaneously" outrage decision, Trump contradicts it by saying they talked about doing it before hand.

Quote from: 21st Century Man on September 27, 2017, 12:21:53 AM
Rex Reed is not a conservative movie reviewer and he's been around since 1970. He is also rather flamboyantly gay not someone I think of as a conservative.  The other review was from, yes, a conservative source. I thought Black Swan was boring and Noah stupid but to each his own.  The Wrestler was good though. Mind you, I'll probably check mother! out when it comes out on video just because I like many bizarre films. I have quite the subsection of bizarre movies in my movie collection.  Many a conservative would blush just reading some of the titles and no, I'm not talking about XXX porn.  We all have different perspectives about what is offensive.

I like my share of what some may call heretical films but I'm uncomfortable of things that I've heard about mother! I'm sick to death of the Christ-bashing coming from filmmakers. Yes, be critical of the church but don't mock the Trinity and Mary (I'm not a Catholic but I believe she should be respected). It is definitely one of the most panned dramas that I can remember in recent history and it has been panned by many mainstream critics and movie audiences. I read all sources, liberal and critical.So far Aronofsky is 1 for 3 in my book but we'll see.

I do respect your opinion though.  I'm tired of big stupid films and prefer films that are more cerebral. I'll be sure to let people know what I think when I do manage to finally see it.  Seriously, you'd probably call me a bit schizophrenic if you saw my collection.  lol

You are totally right, it was wrong of me to lump the two reviewers in the same category. That was unfair.

I watched IT three  Friday after the release an there was a 7pm showing and a 7:20, the 7PM was close to a sell out so I decided to go to the 7:20 and got decent seats but by the time the movie started that theater was sold old as well. It's really a juggernaut. Like most I thought it was really well done, but at times I think they rushed through each kids experience, but it's understandable in just a 2:15  film.  It's still in the top 3 in it's 5th week, that's just crazy.

Quote from: 136 or 142 on October 06, 2017, 11:28:37 PM
Can't find the Jimmy Church thread. People here need to listen to the guest. He's an old fashioned Coast to Coast paranoid loon.  He believes his Youtube videos were edited and that he was hacked 'just like Sony was.'

He just said at the bottom of the hour "Every time I tried to send something using Fed Ex, there would be a person blocking the door."

This guy is pretty entertaining. I like that he thinks the government is giving his movies "one star" to get his rating down, and not some random assholes online for laughs

He also thanks his "supporters" replying  to the negative reples (he probably talking about himself) but the rating keeps going down

Like you said 136, classic coast. Very welcomed

Quote from: 136 or 142 on October 04, 2017, 10:00:39 PM
Yes, and I slept through nearly all of last night's program.

I think I have to take that back. The first guest Tuesday night was okay (Protect the Grid guy) but the CIA guy gave us this gem

Caller : What you think of Antifa
Guest : That's what I love C2C, it's not political
Noory: That's RIGHT
Guest: This is a surprise but I am Conservative
Me: Noooo shiiiiiit. A conservative as a C2C guest.
Guest : Let's just say I don't like Antifa

So does everybody who talks to Jorge has to take his dumbpills because I don't think they know what the words"not" and "don't do" mean.

This 24 hours black out was probably for the best for me as my face was buried in my phone refreshing the LV tread pretty much all week. I was able to look up at people faces, nice seeing all those beautiful faces. Now back looking down at bellgab screen 

Quote from: GravitySucks on October 04, 2017, 06:53:22 PM
https://twitter.com/owenbenjamin/status/915398198872690693

Pretty accurate, all male as well. But Bill Maher views on religion as a whole is much more negative than the rest.

But you do know how liberals feel when tunning in corperate AM radio

The fairness doctrine repeal givith and taketh away 

Las Vegas shooter recalled as intelligent gambler well-versed on gun rights

An Australian man who came to know Stephen Paddock intimately in recent years has offered the most detailed public portrait yet of the Las Vegas mass killer.

He said Paddock was a highly intelligent, strategic though “guarded” individual who won a fortune applying algorithms to gambling, and studied arguments for his right to own weapons under the US constitution.

Their acquaintanceship, through more than half a dozen encounters in the US and the Philippines between 2013 and 2015, revealed Paddock’s generosity â€" which had his overseas guests living in “palatial” style â€" and the existence of a “gun room” at his home in Mesquite, Nevada.

“Yes, I was familiar with him,” the man, speaking on condition of anonymity, told the Guardian at his Brisbane home on Wednesday. “He was extremely intelligent, methodical, conservative â€" guarded â€" and strategic. A planning, thinking type of guy.”

But nothing at the time, including their “robust” discussions about US gun laws, rang alarm bells to suggest that he was capable of “such an inhumane, terrible, vicious act”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/04/las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock-intelligent-gambler-gun-rights

Quote from: Lord Grantham on October 04, 2017, 08:06:39 PM
White House walks back Trump's Puerto Rico comments as Wall Street reels
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/04/trump-puerto-rico-debt-white-house-response-243452

On Wednesday, the Trump administration indicated it has no current plans to take the unprecedented, politically dangerous and probably illegal step of wiping out the owners of Puerto Rico's bonds


Trump's Puerto Rico drop-in was a monumental insult
http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/353872-trumps-puerto-rico-drop-in-was-a-monumental-insult
Trump then visited a church and started throwing out rolls of paper towels like he was the star of a cheap halftime show shooting T-shirts at adoring fans. He also gave out flashlights but then yelled out, “But you all don’t need flashlights anymore do you!” in a clear attempt to highlight the “great work” he has done to bring the island back from disaster.

People DO need flashlights, however: Just 8.6 percent of the population has electricity. In addition, just 48 percent have access to drinking water. Trump was then taken to survey the affected areas and speak to disaster survivors about their needs â€" except he didn’t.

this part is especially interesting
Trump and the Republicans had better ensure that the Puerto Rico recovery happens quickly and normalcy returns to the island. If that doesn't occur, there will be a massive exodus of hundreds of thousands of American citizens who are immediately eligible to register and vote when they settle into states like Texas and Florida.

They come from an island where the voting participation rate is almost 100 percent. I don't think that will bode well for Trump or Republicans in 2018 or 2020.

The way he acted in Puerto Rico I really wish he did a line of coke on the plane before getting out, it would at least explain it.

Going there and blaming them for the "ruining the budget?" and playing Crocodile Dundee "This ain't a tragedy, now that was a tragedy"

The problem with Trump saying "Giving himself an A and everything going great in PR" is when at the same time he saying a mass shooting in LV with a record breaking death count and a 75 minute response time as "a miracle" the job local authorities did

When he hypes LV response as some miraculously perfect it's hard to take him serious about any other thing he claims he was doing great at.

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 04, 2017, 08:41:14 PM
Thanks man, everybody is posting good ones.  I have the Van Halen, Dio and Iron Maiden Albums that have been mentioned.  You can see I have a broad taste in music.  I'd post a Beatles one probably Abbey Road but they don't have them on youtube.

I think Abbey Road is my favorite as well. But so many are so good it's hard to pick just one. But Sgt Pepper and Rubber Soul is up there too

90s is a pretty good time for people experimenting with music. I really loved the mid/late 90s when everybody was trying to find what will be the next big music genre (then it turned out to be pop boy bands  )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSYxT9GM0fQ

Last night show wasn't too bad. But of course the streak of good shows from Noory has a record of 1. Today back to crap with Joe Wallet.

Quote from: bateman on October 04, 2017, 03:20:22 PM
Women + gay and bisexual men means the majority of people suck some cock.

Does this count for guys who suck their own like Steve Bannon

Oh Mooch you left us too soon

Quote from: chefist on October 04, 2017, 02:44:51 PM
Agreed. However, what would be the best response if a reporter came to your door about your brother. Almost anything you say or didn't day would be taken negatively.

Probably, but I think I would be in such shock and freaking out so much that it wouldn't even cross my mind how I would look PR wise. I think my reaction would be to lock the door and get in the fidal position in the corner of my house. Not sure how effective that is lol but I don't think i can see myself chatting it up with the media for 10 minutes.

Quote from: TigerLily on October 04, 2017, 02:04:30 PM
What do you think Trump would consider worse; an alien probe or a Russian probe? Asking for a Russian alien friend

If the alien is one of those sexy ones from Star Trek, definitely alien

Quote from: bateman on October 04, 2017, 02:24:25 PM
https://twitter.com/darkcityfm/status/915671258070753280

There is something about that family that seems very nonchalant about the whole thing.

I still can't get over the brother doing a full press conference on his front yard the day after. Isn't the normal reaction is to go into hiding and maybe have your lawyer give a statement.

Quote from: Billy Joe Mulgreavey on October 04, 2017, 01:29:25 PM


Zeta, what would you propose?  What are you going to limit in the way of capacity, of caliber, of what the gun looks like?  Once you take an honest look at any such proposal, you will quickly see that it is indeed a slippery slope.

There is no easy answer, especially with states having their own set of rules. First I would do is look back 10 years and see what were the laws then, and what are they now. What' been changed and what's been lax. If the number then are better then the numbers now. Why is it worse. And are the changes or relaxing of laws helping or hurting the bottom line

A good chart of year by year numbers of mass shootings (4 or more killed) for the past 35 years was done on Time Mag

2013-2017 :  245 killed - 29 incidents 
2008-2012 :  147 Killed - 18 incidents 
2003-2007 :    95 Killed - 11 incidents 
1998-2002:     68 Killed - 10 Incidents 
1993-1997:     44 Killed -  9 Incidents 
1988-1992:     68 Killed  - 9 Incidents 
1982-1987:     55 Killed -  5 Incidents

This chart shows that something has happened in this century for number of incidents to go up and the number of casualties in those incidents to go up. The biggest mass shootings all happened in the last 10 years, the 3 out of the top 4 happened in the last 5 years. If gun laws have been more relaxed during this time, and the number of these incidents keep going up I don't think it's unfair to connect the two.

http://time.com/4965022/deadliest-mass-shooting-us-history/

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on October 04, 2017, 12:48:27 PM

What is interesting about the LV shooting is Trump doesn't want to talk about an answer. He is very very keen to tweet before the bodies are cold when its a terrorist attack, even when he's wrong on the specifics he tweets. But on LV he offers platitudes, and no answers.

Quote from: Billy Joe Mulgreavey on October 04, 2017, 12:27:51 PM
It's hard to simply shelve your beliefs, culture, memories of unpleasant events. Etc, Pudwood.  Here are two very recent stories from the town I'm from. 

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article174850906.html.  Little girl killed.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2017/10/02/lawrence-kansas-shooting/723505001/  Three kids gunned down on the sa!e night as the LV shootings.

While I believe in my right to bear arms and protect my family and myself, and that I feel justified in my belefs, I acknowledge that this crap is way out of line, I'm willing to consider reasonable measures.  I just don't know what they are.

Well said, I am not nearly as anti-gun as people would think. I am okay with home use. Now I might think a gun might end up causing more problems than it  worth but I am okay with people making their own decision at home.

What I think has happened is that we have lost respect for the gun. Look at the youtube videos with losers "showing off" and hell even congressmen ads using the gun in ridiculous manners to show some sort of "street cred".

The maturity of being responsible gun owners has seem to be less and less and it's more about status symbol or penis extension. Do I think everybody who accumulates 40 guns is a psycho? No. But I don't think it's out of the question to ask, why is it necessary and what purpose does it serve. 

Quote from: Billy Joe Mulgreavey on October 04, 2017, 01:07:13 PM
Sorry Zeta, but isn't that a little hypocritical?  You say that "you hear what you want to hear," but you are selecting not to hear or acknowledge " slippery slope?'  It is a slippery slope when you want to ban certain guns based on capacity and stuff.

But it doesn't have to be a slippery slope from banning guns with the capacity to banning every gun that can protect your home. In the past decade we have gone so much the other way, while at the same time mass shootings and body count records keep going up.

The argument of you will never stop a nut is true. But you can hopefully limit his  damage. A nut with a knife on the street can do just so much damage before hopefully being stopped. I guy with a pistol with 6 bullets before reloading can do damage but hopefully be stopped as he has to reload. As we seen in Vegas a guy that can shoot long range and spray bullets is a totally different ball game in damage capability

Quote from: chefist on October 04, 2017, 12:43:20 PM
There is a certain well funded and vocal percentage of those on the left that want to completely repeal the 2nd. All guns from private citizens to be confiscated by the government.

Until I hear a majority on the left denounce this, i just don't see any common ground.

Seriously I think you hear what you want to hear. Sure maybe some want to remove all guns, but majority on the left either don't want that or know that is not a possibility. What I do hear if there's any sort of push buck on removing guns like the LV shooter was using which the sole purpose is mass casualties, the automatic response from the right is "But slippery slope!"

Quote from: albrecht on October 04, 2017, 12:03:09 PM
Paddock's girlfriend's background is almost Obama-esque according to some reports. Lots of mystery and bizarre background, multiple SS numbers, bigamy, multiple addresses, and officials won't comment on her various residency and immigration status due to her 'privacy.' She also has lawyered up.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/paddocks-girlfriend-used-two-social-security-numbers-and-was-married-to-two-men-at-the-same-time/ar-AAsSelw

And...now the story is retracted. So who knows?
http://www.newsweek.com/marilou-danley-gunmans-girlfriend-social-security-number-677033

All she needs is to be registered as the opposite sex in another state and their might be an opening in this administration 

ihttps://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/915371086249971712

What do you guys think of this? Ignoring the odd placement of "quotes". Normally when somebody does this they are being sarcastic 

Calling this a "Miracle" (quoting somebody is another proper use of quotes) seems really tone deaf and absurd on the biggiest mass shooting ever in our soil and even though I am not willing to throw the LVPD under the bus yet (even though I do think an investigation is proper) it take them over an hour to find the guy after he knocked off a record 59 people is as far as miraculous as I can think of

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 03, 2017, 10:44:32 PM
To wrap up my thoughts about this, I'm very surprised a mass shooting of this scope has never happened before.  It was bound to happen sooner or later.  Hopefully it will be another few hundred years before it happens again.

Regretfully I will hav to take the UNDER 100 years on this one,

What caught me a bit of a surprise the top 4 mass shooting happened in the last 10 years. Three of those four events happened in the last 5 year and we had "record breakers" in back to back years. We are in a real horrible pattern.

Now that's a depressing note to end the day

Quote from: Norm on October 03, 2017, 09:33:30 PM
FACTS:

The guy who shot up Vegas checked every color that you are not counting

Quote from: albrecht on October 03, 2017, 04:52:23 PM
Recall the stories and reports about a Hispanic woman who was saying that 'all going to die tonight?' Weird coincidence of a crazy, upset person spouting nonsense and an unrelated crazy person who commences shooting?

For a country concert that is unusual. But if it's a Goth Rock concert headlined by the Cure, that would be pretty darn normal.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on October 03, 2017, 11:38:57 AM
No-one has yet said that if everyone on the ground had been armed, they'd have been able to defend themselves. That's the problem that overlooks that as soon as the police turn up, and they see the shooting, they can see their potential target (so can everyone else with a gun). How will they know that someone with a gun isn't the original assassin? They shoot people who reach for a wallet or give them a funny look, so you're on dangerous ground if you're carrying a firearm in an area where gun fire is reported.

Man real great point. Not just police. What happens if Person A see's the guy at the building firing down and starts firing back (not sure how much good would that do) would Person B, lets say 20 feet away from Person A think that Person A was the original shooter as he see's him with his gun firing and starts shooting him..... And so on and so on and so on.

NRA mouthpiece John Lott was on Noory yesterday who's normal solution was if every "good folk" had a gun, this wouldn't happen. Was silent on that point last night

Quote from: 21st Century Man on October 03, 2017, 01:36:12 AM
Well less guns and more crime seems to be the rule of day in Chicago.  My point is that only the bad guys in Chicago have guns.  I do sympathize with you and think he should not have had Lott on but I don't listen much anyway.

Chicago is not nearly as dangerous as the media portrays it. It's Ghetto are bad, absolutely. But that is where most of the gun crime is and contained in there. You're right bad guys are the ones with guns, but they are also shooting other "bad guys" who supposedly have guns. The odds of a middle-class person in Chicago who doesn't associate with gang members is not really any larger in Chicago than anywhere else. Chicago also has a large total number because of the size of the population, so the numbers stand out more.

Are you ready to get shocked, Chicago is not even in the top 5 of most dangerous major cities. Chicago has 27.9 murders per 100,000 do you know who's in first per capita. Ironically Jorge hometown (well one of them) St. Louis they have 59.3 per 1000,000. Over double of Chicago. Jorge brought up Chicago yesterday, I wonder why he didn't bring up his own beloved St. Louis? Could it be as Chicago an easy target because it's a liberal state/ anti gun/  Obama connection and Missouri is a consistent red state that's very gun friendly ? Kansas City (another Missouri) is right up there with Chicago on murder rate at with 26.6/100,000

I actually don't blame you 21st, the media as a whole seems to be piling on Chicago and ignoring the per capita numbers. I wouldn't have even known if my friend from Chicago didn't tip me off on it. But a good rule to live by is whatever Noory says, it's a good idea to double and triple check.

So how is Jorge a shithead let us count the ways

-Criticize people bringing up gun control during the day, yet brings in a NRA spokesperson  every time
- Put himself in victim place that he never met and said "They would want everybody to move on"
- Again said somehow it feels less worse to be killed by an "wacked out" American  than a terrorist

No mention of More Guns, Less Crime as it probably not the best title today when the killer had over 20 guns on him

Quote from: WOTR on October 02, 2017, 11:31:31 PM
Thanks  Doc.  Being as Jackstar seems not to be around right now, I was hoping that you could help.  My nieces were just given a social studies assignment to write a report on any mass shooting.

I was really hoping that you or Jack could help me to make a recommendation... Was there ever a mass shooting that the government was not behind?  Is there anything that I could recommend that they research which was not a false flag?

Thanks

Muslims? Probably blacks as well

Listening to these guys talk to the woman who talks to horses

What I will do to avoid Noory