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Obama's illegals committing atrocities and crimes closer to his home. Though, unlike most citizens, he has the tax-payers funding elite security details for himself and his family. I wonder if any of these precious illegals or "refugees" are attending the elite, private, religious school he sends his daughters? Do Quakers accept Obama's MS-13 member immigrants as students?

http://wjla.com/news/crime/officials-report-a-rise-of-violent-and-brutal-ms-13-related-crimes-in-va

Quote from: NAKASHI on June 30, 2016, 11:47:59 PM
The Clash - Rock the Casbah (heh, heh, heh)  :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ9r8LMU9bQ

Ha, filmed here in part. Though that bar gone, Posse East still open and love it. West now condos or some crap.

Quote from: (Reality) on June 30, 2016, 11:35:47 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Russia had a role in BREXIT vote result. lol

Likely, actually.

Quote from: bateman on June 30, 2016, 11:30:28 PM
Right??

Do a show. Even podcasts, no schedule or regularity. No aspersions cast, but we miss it. And your move could not have been more "horrendous" than RCH's and he has a show, such as it is. 

Quote from: FightTheFuture on June 30, 2016, 11:33:57 PM
You should send a dna sample in to ancestory.com. I`m awaiting my results now. Been about 5 weeks. Only 99 bucks.

Not that you already aren't, but why join the database?   

Quote from: (Reality) on June 30, 2016, 11:25:45 PM
The Soviet period.
From late 1944, Joseph Stalin adopted a pro-Zionist foreign policy, apparently believing that the new country would be socialist and would speed the decline of British influence in the Middle East.
Accordingly, in November 1947, the Soviet Union, together with the other Soviet bloc countries voted in favor of the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine, which paved the way for the creation of the State of Israel.
On May 17, 1948, three days after Israel declared its independence, the Soviet Union officially granted de jure recognition of Israel, becoming only the second country to recognise the Jewish state (preceded only by the United States' de facto recognition) and the first country to grant Israel de jure recognition.


Israeli ambassador to the Soviet Union Golda Meir surrounded by crowd of 50,000 Jews near Moscow Choral Synagogue on the first day of Rosh Hashanah in 1948.
Golda Meir was appointed Israel's minister plenipotentiary to the Soviet Union, with her term beginning on 2 September 1948 and ending in March, 1949.
During her brief stint in the USSR, Meir attended Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur services at the Moscow Choral Synagogue.

In addition to the diplomatic support, arms from Czechoslovakia, part of the Soviet bloc, were crucial to Israel in the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. During the war, the Soviet Union supported Israel when it was attacked by Arab countries that opposed the 1947 United Nations General Assembly resolution for the partition of Palestine into a Jewish and an Arab state.

A major episode in the Soviet relation to the Arabâ€"Israeli conflict was the Suez Crisis, with Egypt negotiating an arms deal with communist Czechoslovakia in September 1955, thereby ending Egypt's reliance on Western arms.
Later, other members of the Warsaw Pact also sold arms to Egypt and Syria.
In practice, all sales from the Eastern Bloc were authorized by the Soviet Union, as an attempt to increase Soviet influence over the Middle East.
Political relations between the two countries remained poor throughout the Cold War, with the Soviet Union helping Arab states such as Syria, Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Algeria and Iraq improve their military capabilities by providing state-of-the-art weaponry and training.

Paul Johnson and other historians argue that November 10, 1975 United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3379 that labelled Zionism as racism was orchestrated by the USSR.
It was rescinded by the Resolution 4686 in December 1991, which coincided with the dissolution of the Soviet Union.

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The intrigue between the finalized, I won't mention the creation of it, Soviet State and the Jews and Muslims versus the "West" and "capitalist" countries is very interesting. One could wonder, considering various moves, who is playing whom?

Quote from: 21st Century Man on June 30, 2016, 07:50:58 PM
My Mom and Her Mom had jet black hair until they were 70, then maybe a couple strands of gray after that.  A couple of my uncles had some Indian features.  They had black hair too.

Yeah, depending on where you live very common. But then do the DNA stuff and, whoops. (At least in her case.) She didn't even tell the older folks or kids because, it was a family story and why make waves and upset the narrative (but not exploiting like Warren etc.) And, if one wished to go there DNA can be spoofed.** I never did one but notice things, Norway is different than lots of Scandi lands, lots of darker hair and more almond eyes etc . But, then again, the ear lobe stuff and the "Viking contracture" hand thing that, I haven't had, thankfully, yet but my granddad and uncle and some others did. Was the poor country, the Samis, and that the country of exploration (and taking slaves/mates.) Wouldn't surprised me if I had some weird 'native' roots.
** http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/18/science/18dna.html?_r=0

Norry will be "Livin' It Up In Asheville" on Sat in Aug twenty-seethveth. A Danheiser/Wagner Entertainment production. $106. More than Hank Jr concert down here. Aint right, I tell ya. And likely some carry-over audience. 

Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on June 30, 2016, 11:01:35 PM
We know the show makes at least enough money to pay for the bumper music Art said he couldn't live without.

Not enough, apparently, to play Red, Red Wine, which I suspect we will hear from Norry since LMH is on.....

Quote from: NAKASHI on June 30, 2016, 10:51:25 PM
What?

I just got back in with a cup of tea.  Did he just way he went down on an alien??!!!??

Eeeeewwwww uuuuggg!!!

Not listening but checking the threads sometimes. Reminds me of Preston Nichols (I think) with one of the gal C2C hosts, I think Connie, and he started on about watching a victim masturbation with "glowing orb" on some cot at Montauk Project child abuse center. It was hilarious, in a way because she was stoned unable to stop him describing and nobody working the boards-  but bizarre and nuts and disturbing.
ps: you will note I say "I think" because if I'm up that late and listening to C2C I might be drinking or, if not, I'm listening to a replay in the day on weekends doing yard-work or in garage involving loud engines (C2C is nice 'white noise' these days.)

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on June 30, 2016, 10:41:41 PM
There were a bunch of Jewish refugees that were floating on a boat (or several) for a year or more after WW2. No country would take them and so they started negotiations for Israel. 

Yep, the great actor Max Van Sydnow, better known for his Bergman stuff but, really, did everything from great movies to bad tv movies, was in a good one about this little known fact called "Voyage of the Damned." Interestingly many countries, especially "neutral ones," were more than willing to take capital from Jews (or those killing them) but not the people.

Quote from: Paper*Boy on June 30, 2016, 10:22:43 PM
There's probably nothing that would have changed anything in the long run.  It was a mistake to create the state of Israel.

Blame the Brits for Balfour intrigue but nothing new to be "managing" the area to their wiles. Honestly some of me thinks it was true that the Brits, French, Russians, US, etc (even Germans under NAZIs) did actually say "fine" go there to "get them out of our hair." Recall that Roosevelt, and most European countries, refused Jewish refugees and the NAZIs also cut deals for a resettlement campaign even. (And others participate in far worse in terms of exportation of Jews to camps and death.) Bizarre. In a way, I think, controversially, the promotion that the German guilt is some way of also expunging our, and other's, guilt- by omission or outright. (Though obviously they bear the most burden.)

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on June 30, 2016, 10:24:40 PM
We're entering Hoagie territory then and should move this over to the OSOM thread. 

Were you listening last night? It was a thing of beauty! 

No, I can't stay up that late these days. But funny. (though things like 'fuzzy' logic are, supposedly at least legit. As is quantum stuff. The problem is the application the guests/hosts appropriate them without understanding and also not fully understood or accepted (and in certain situations not blindly applied to everything etc.) They just throw out terms and what-not, usually.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on June 30, 2016, 10:17:49 PM
Why not take it even further back in history? If the British had "taken care of" their terrorist problem after WW2 we wouldn't be having this discussion at all. 

Ha. Actually, yeah. Deep waters and bad problems. But, as countless Africans and Asians can attest, some of the safest times in their history is under British Colonial auspices. (Not, so much, some of the other powers. And not in terms of what we now call human rights, but simply rule of law, life expectancy, infrastructure, schools, trades, etc.) Heck, I'll even go further out on a limb to be sawed-off and criticized: doesn't anyone here, with numbers, think people, even the natives, are better off in the "Rainbow Nation" now or back in the day or Rhodesia or the modern Zimbabwe? In terms of diseases, death rates, murder and rape rates, HIV/AIDS, infrastructure, food production, etc etc?)

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on June 30, 2016, 10:15:28 PM
I know you're speaking figuratively but I don't think it's wise to believe there's a leftist logic and a conservative logic. There's just logic, and it can be used to see through the bullshit of right or left; or, on that rare occasion, to support a policy you may agree with. 

Yes? Maybe? "Fuzzy" logic and etc though.  (and throw in some "quantum" and old school Manicheanism stuff with the "everything is relative" and "perception is reality" stuff, LOGIC might not apply.

Quote from: NAKASHI on June 30, 2016, 10:15:02 PM
The Origin of the word Swastika
The word 'swastika' derives from an Asian Indian Sanskrit word, in which the meaning of the swastika stands for universal welfare. "Swasti" means well-being of one and all and "ka" means symbol. The swastika is one of the most ancient of all symbols and used as a symbol for peace, life and good luck. It represented the revolving sun, fire or life.

Swastika symbolism is destroyed
The ancient Swastika was adopted as a symbol of the Nazi Party of Germany in 1920 who used it as a symbol of the Aryan race. The events leading to WW2 destroyed the original meaning of the swastika and completely reversed its original meaning from peace and life to war and death. The true meaning of the swastika and its symbolism has probably been destroyed forever but the symbol belonged to ancient cultures long before the terrible events of the 20th century.

http://www.warpaths2peacepipes.com/native-american-symbols/swastika-symbol.htm

Well aware, but was not about the American "Indian" use of it also. Thanks though, like the "Roman," and later "Bellamy" salute taught to school kids. The NAZI stuff eliminated its use (here, still used in Mexico and much of South American when taking a pledge, assuming an office or rank.)

Quote from: Paper*Boy on June 30, 2016, 10:12:45 PM
You have to have a negotiating partner to negotiate.  Israel doesn't have one.

They've made so many mistakes - from not killing Arafat very early on, to giving Gaza to Hamas.  They're in a tough spot, they've been incredibly patient with an enemy who will accept nothing short of the destruction of Israel, but they can't do what any other nation would do and wipe Hamas, the PA, and the rest of the militias out militarily - as that would draw their neighbors in against them.

Do you think if Eisenhower made a different decision it would be different?

Quote from: ItsOver on June 30, 2016, 09:13:59 AM
This, too.

With a rare opportunity to see a Perry episode I haven't seen! And very a propo to current situation? (Rancher who sold mineral rights, via Perry, to an oil company who instead plugs wells and buys, with kickbacks, to an Arab "prince" and rancher might lose land?) Obvious choice. (And LOTS of familiar character actors involved?) MeTV now.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on June 30, 2016, 10:04:43 PM
Well, glad you got it all wrapped up then. They should just send you over to negotiate peace there. I'm sure no one there will mind you just pulling random facts out of your ass.  : 

I just wonder why it has gotten to this point? Why didn't our country just stick with the WASPs, doing well then? Hey, using leftist logic even our Supreme Court is "unbalanced" and "doesn't reflect" the population, in terms of race, religion, creed, or ethnicity (or didn't, not sure how the open-border and "refugee" stuff has effected demographics recently.)

Quote from: Inglorious Bitch on June 30, 2016, 07:57:13 PM
If you wear it upside down it means you're single.

That is funny! Ha. Neo-Nazi singles-bar tip!   
I remember seeing an old book about New Mexico and, I think, the Indians (feather but also apparently with dots) had that symbol on some stuff in old photographs taken. Been several times and never seen it now.

Quote from: 21st Century Man on June 30, 2016, 06:39:46 PM
I've never done any of that but my wife wants me to on ancestry.com.  It is pretty much a known fact with me though.

A cousin's wife did a DNA test and, contrary to family legend and looks of some people in her family, no Indian blood at all. Though I have a friend who looks whiter than me who got a small grant and, maybe, admission-help to law school by claiming some percentage of Cherokee. Which he said was true via Family Tree history, no DNA tests then, but also freely admitted it was, basically, a scam as he had no current connection or involvement with Indians, didn't live on a Res, etc. Okie though so could be true. But, like Warren, just using it to get ahead and for academic admission. Though he didn't play it up for votes etc later, like her. What will be interesting is that now that 'whites,' (more properly "white, non-Hispanic," are a minority in some cities and due to the latest decision by the Court if a school or business will be allowed to promote 'whites' in quotas and hiring? I've also known several businesses abusing the "minority" business stuff. So hilarious. Hire some black guy as a front and then get small business loans, preferential supplier status to companies, etc. Not sure if that stuff is still happening or if they cracked down on it.

Quote from: 21st Century Man on June 30, 2016, 05:13:50 PM
LOL.  Covering his tracks.

Bono. What a hypocrite. Love Ireland, yeah right, but dodge taxes to the tune of millions. Don't get me wrong I'm all in favor of using whatever legal means to limit one's tax liabilities but I point out when big-time liberal types who favor such taxation schemes and social programs do so and take money AWAY from the social programs, infrastructure improvements, schools, etc.

Quote from: I_Speculate on June 30, 2016, 05:09:09 PM
One Sunday mornin as I was going to Mass
I met a bloody Orangeman, and killed him for his pass
I killed him for his pass, me boys

Well, I can believe the criminality (not sure that is something to be proud of maybe quitting the drink and getting a job and one could afford his own pass) but the song-writer left out the part about that strange, uncomfortable tingling sensation he got when he started getting touched in the rectory or locker-room (assuming the singer was underage as the Catholic-types tend to not like them once puberty sets in.) "Don't worry, my son, this is a special confirmation procedure" or, if you were unfortunate to be an Irish lass who "got into trouble." One thing I never understood. Abortion, or even condoms or things that just prevent a pregnancy, are bad and sinful but it is ok to throw babies down the well or bury them in the yards of the 'unwed mother homes' and orphanages? Bad to have sex out of wedlock or without pregnancy or purpose but ok to abuse children, usually male. Homosexuality is bad for consenting adults but ok if you are a Priest or club staff and the boy is underage? Weird, those Papists.

Quote from: I_Speculate on June 30, 2016, 04:53:49 PM
Basically the same thing ; i can't imagine both versions having much difference in taste.

They don't sell smoked meat in your parts?

Are you kidding? Texas? All the time. We basically live on smoked meat and bbq. I just got roped into getting one of those Big Green Eggs to replace my other smoker that sorta rusted away because I didn't have it under cover. Still haven't mastered it. I was just surprised because I've never heard of smoking corned beef since it is already cured.

Quote from: I_Speculate on June 30, 2016, 04:55:34 PM
Come out and fight you pussies.

FTP WATP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMGmuJBKOM8
Just to stir more sectarianism on this already volatile thread. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2GaFlYT9dE

Quote from: 21st Century Man on June 30, 2016, 04:42:28 PM
KKK, on the rise again?  Wouldn't surprise me given the anti-semitic ravings on Bellgab now.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/a8ed212468c741eb993609cd480efe21/ku-klux-klan-dreams-rising-again-150-years-after-founding

It wouldn't surprise if there is a slight rise in some groups, considering the President, terrorism, the illegal/"refugee" invasion, etc but I'm guess that there are more, or at least a high population, of SPLC, FBI/DHS etc plants, informers, and instigators in these groups. Even the past this was so, but under the Obama administration and he constant desire to deflect all the Muslim terrorism to the potential problems with "typical white people," as he calls them, returning Veterans, and Christians. And people like Morris Dees needs these groups- even if they are faked or agent provocateurs or 'astro-turfed'- to make $$$.

Quote from: I_Speculate on June 30, 2016, 04:18:15 PM
We call the corned beef Smoked Meat in these parts.

That is odd, a weird localism? Ah, I looked it up basically corned beef (basically corning is preserving by salt) and then smoked and steamed. Sounds delicious.

Quote from: Value Of Pi on June 29, 2016, 04:49:37 PM
It's too bad that the NRA is not using more of its influence to focus on the enforcement problem as opposed to rallying the troops only when a new law is proposed. Typically, the NRA only talks about enforcement as a way of placing blame on the government.

No problem with placing blame where it's deserved but how about actively demanding that the government do a better job at enforcing existing gun laws? Again, they do talk about the subject but not very loudly.

What also is funny is those on the more fringe or ultra conservative think the NRA sells out gun owners too much! Haha.

Quote from: Rix Gins on June 29, 2016, 02:52:26 AM
The Tonopah Daily Bonanza, June 29, 1916.

Sounds like a great 4th of July celebration! I wish someone had a movie camera and posted the old film on youtube. In particular the "Death Slide" from the top of the Mizpah Hotel by the famous San Franciscan chimney sweep.

Quote from: WOTR on June 29, 2016, 12:41:37 AM
I didn't mean to make it sound like you were pro crusades.

I, on the other hand, welcome a papal bull for the eighth crusade.  I think with modern technology, it could be a lot more fun to march to Jerusalem slaughtering, burning, pillaging and raping.  Naturally, once we reach Jerusalem, it is only fair to expect the modern day Saladin to come destroy us... But at least we would die fighting the infidel rather than becoming a quadriplegic after a keyboard warrior curses us. 

Come on Francis!

I don't see why modern technology couldn't be brought to bear? It is stupid to be fighting with guns except in certain targeted special operations. We know who the enemy is and we've mapped the human genome. Some boys at Fort Detrick could come up with some solution, likely. Even if was targeted for their crops, water supply, and livestock so that they starve and fight each other off (therefore, maybe, not violating some 'human rights' rules and having plausible deniability.) And whatever happened to the "Neutron Bomb?" That way those precious relics being destroyed by Muslims and the oil&gas fields would still remain. Kidding, of course.