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Nope. But, I think Art is histrionic. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histrionic_personality_disorder

Art Bell

Re: Art Bell Quits Dark Matter

« Reply #22435 on: February 06, 2014, 08:02:59 PM »

As I have posted on Facebook and as I promised on this Forum, as soon as I am released from the Sirius/XM NC I will begin streaming my own show. The article so well written about JBW only confirms what I have felt for YEARS.

I might have better luck asking Julie for a release of my NC…….I say this because while I was trying to talk to Sirius/XM two days after I left, I simply could not understand why they were not responding to my offer to return if they would only allow streaming until Sirius fixed their problems, when I finally did get a response it was to inform me that Coast would be taking my spot on channel 104 (emphasis added).

It is my feeling that “they” want me kept off the air, ho hum, I will fool them by staying healthy and kicking their ass as soon as I can get free.

It's a niche market.

Quote from: rekcuf on December 13, 2015, 04:56:57 PM
Your asserting the sole intent behind these incident(s)--terrorize Art into quitting. There's no evidence supporting that specific claim.

Well. Partly, I agree. There is only hearsay. But, you can read/listen about it on the previously mentioned people's posts. Frankly, I'm done. I need to go back to the land of reality and be a professor again. It's Finals week after all.

Quote from: rekcuf on December 13, 2015, 04:47:34 PM
Art couldn't tell if what he heard was a firecracker or gunshot... Art, could only hear a couple words... Redacted wasn't there...

If you think I'm denying that something happened, I'm not.

That was the final straw, not the only incident. Don't be so droll.

Seriously, there are only two logical reasons that AB quit (and he already posted why).

1) He simply wanted to retire and didn't know how to tell his fans.

2) He was threatened with his hand his family's lives to quit.

Quote from: rekcuf on December 13, 2015, 04:37:37 PM
Prove your assertion. Derp!

Are you serious? Read Redacted and AB's posts about the situation!

Quote from: rekcuf on December 13, 2015, 04:35:03 PM
You'd probably need proof first... Did Art recieve specific demands,  including--stop broadcasting or else?

Yes. Derp!

Quote from: rekcuf on December 13, 2015, 04:26:50 PM
You'd have to verify intent first, correct?

Obviously the intent is to stop AB from doing what he likes--Terrorism.

Quote from: Claudius on December 13, 2015, 04:10:51 PM
The dictionary is not your best friend for this. Terrorism experts squabble all the time about what is and what is not terror, using the lowest common denominator definition is not a good idea.

The federal classification which you just listed does not in any way support your claim of terrorism.

I completely disagree. In broad terms, terrorism is an act of violence meant as a threat to the free expression of philosophical ideas. This is supposedly what is happening with AB.

Quote from: Meister_000 on December 13, 2015, 04:03:53 PM
I'm thinking there's a whole lot more to such definitions than those reported above. Besides, it seems a bit Orwellian to allow the Government to Define the limits and usages and meanings of that term, "Domestic Terrorism" -- given Governments timeless associations with Tyranny! It's probably wise to have Citizen input into the creation and maintainance of such definitions. "We the People" . . . having certain "Inalienable Rights" . . . the "Consent of the Governed" . . . and all that.

Excellent thought!

Quote from: munbeam666 on December 13, 2015, 03:59:36 PM
Stalking IS terrorism. Especially if it involves a gun.
Another nutcase with a gun who shouldn't have one. Lie the others previously, a lot of damage has been done

First and second sentence, I agree with. Third sentence, go take your meds.

Quote from: slippingaway on December 13, 2015, 03:55:36 PM
I fall on the U.S.C. definition because the letter of the law is the only definition that can cost prison time? Is that not sound enough judgement for ya? It bares the most weight, considering the legal definition. This is beyond harrassment. If shots are fired, this guy is endangering the general population as well as creating ripples on a nationally syndicated talk radio show.

Since Art's push to terrestrial radio, he should enjoy all the protections that our Bill of Rights guarantees against the infringement on his Freedom of Speech/Press. There's a reason it's the first ammendment: it's the most important.

Nope. But all of your other reasoning fits the historical definition of terrorism.

Quote from: VoteQuimby on December 13, 2015, 03:54:49 PM
Even if this guy or girl who's been shooting at or lighting fireworks near Art's place gets caught, does anyone think Art is really coming back?

Not me. He's 70. I am 36 and can't stay up that late regularly.

Quote from: coaster on December 13, 2015, 03:51:25 PM
I'm no law professional, but I do believe the stalker is a poopyhead in the first degree.

Nice. I only care about law in so far as it concerns reality.

Quote from: slippingaway on December 13, 2015, 03:39:09 PM
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/terrorism/terrorism-definition
I'll take the U.S.C as my definition, ftw.

Why? It's a relatively new definition/legal definition?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_terrorism

Quote from: slippingaway on December 13, 2015, 03:32:29 PM
"Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:

    Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
    Appear intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination. or kidnapping; and
    Occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S.

18 U.S.C. § 2332b defines the term "federal crime of terrorism" as an offense that:

    Is calculated to influence or affect the conduct of government by intimidation or coercion, or to retaliate against government conduct; and
    Is a violation of one of several listed statutes, including § 930(c) (relating to killing or attempted killing during an attack on a federal facility with a dangerous weapon); and § 1114 (relating to killing or attempted killing of officers and employees of the U.S.).

Dictionary.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorism

noun
1.
the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
2.
the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3.
a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

These supposed incidents easily fulfill the first definition.

Quote from: Claudius on December 13, 2015, 03:21:43 PM
This is not terrorism. I'm not sure why people on this forum keep calling it that. It's a potential stalker, and if everything AB thinks is happening is happening I would still not call it terrorism.

What is your definition of terrorism?

Quote from: trostol on December 13, 2015, 03:17:52 PM
add onto that..i am not sure what leads they can follow from what we have been told..

i do wonder, since i cant remember..the first incident..was there any bullet holes found in his studio?

I'm pretty sure the answer is no. I guess that a couple kids with a bunch of fireworks are laughing their asses off.

Quote from: morgana213 on December 13, 2015, 03:16:16 PM
What worries me is that bullies/stalkers enjoy the power they receive when their victims succumb to being bullied/stalked.  I'm worried that Art's quitting has given this psycho such a high that he/she/they will continue to terrorize.  I hope not, but still I worry about it.

You don't need to worry about if. The terrorism will continue. Bank it. This/these person/people feed off of fear.

Quote from: Yining_Wu_F.U. on December 13, 2015, 03:01:10 PM
Some of the stuff on C2C was bogus but I would say about 95 percent is true. YOU need to open your eyes

Bullshit!

Quote from: slippingaway on December 13, 2015, 02:18:15 PM
You don't think his topic are controversial enough to warrant electronic harassment? You don't think he entertains AND informs?
He sheds light where others ought naught.  The only person that comes close is JBW and AJ, and AJ is fed enough disinfo to discredit the real points he's making.

Shortly after delving into the Hubrids thing, and after everyone is retiring from the field. A void is coming in paranormal talk/investigation. They want it that way.  Get the whole genre disenfranchised. They strip away our unity and then we are easy targets if we make too much of a stink.

There is a war on for our minds, as well as our souls.  They already won the war on our bodies with GMOs, at least state-side.

No, he doesn't. Come on. These shows are largely entertainment. Not reality! Grow up.

Quote from: eddie dean on December 13, 2015, 01:26:19 PM
http://artbell.com/the-future-of-midnight-in-the-desert-and-dark-matter-radio-network/

It has just sunk in for me after reading this ^
It's sad that it has to end like this for Art, DMDN and everyone involved with the show.
Tough situation for Keith and Red as well.

Unfortunately, Art will be stewing in his own fear for awhile. If the stalking is true, people like this just don't quit. Their joy comes from their victims fear.

Quote from: K_Dubb on December 13, 2015, 01:18:39 PM
Ok I resubscribed to Hoagie -- though he's still an ass -- just cuz I want Keith's network to stay up.  The alternative is too horrible to contemplate.

Assuming Heather's 30 days aren't just to fulfill some contracts' requirements and keep the lawsuits at bay, at this point I'd love to see her crank out some businesslike, quality shows with Art hovering in the background.  Nothing will silence the critics and ease the disappointment but that will do wonders.

Here's some unsolicited, and possibly unwelcome - sheesh - , advice:

Making the show about the veracity of a guest's claims is pointless and self-defeating cuz most of 'em are making it up.  They're tale-spinners; just draw it out of them, make them go dancing out on that limb.

Relax and have fun.  This is mindless entertainment for most of us, and if you're having fun we probably are, too.

Be strong and confident but keep the posturing for the mirror at home.  You can't afford to alienate anyone actually engaged with the show.  Putting out a quality product is the only rejoinder you need.

Good luck, I hope for all of us this is a star-is-born moment.

I think this the "bargaining" stage of grief.

Relatively new her. But, I have some advice. Whoever is the guest, hold their feet to the fire and make them squirm. Nothing is better than listening to a charlatan get their comeuppance!

Quote from: WOTR on October 22, 2015, 12:00:42 AM
Anybody want to start a pool as to how long it will be before Dave realizes this makes for interesting radio and claims an intruder in the radio station?

"Oh my, Tommy has just informed me that the intruder alarms are going off and the elevator appears to be coming to this floor. "

That may have been Dave or Tommy getting shot by the cops.

Art. Hang up on this idiot.

I vote that John be the first man on Mars.

Quote from: Bellathor on August 05, 2015, 11:21:07 PM
That would be epic!

+1

Please hang up professor.

Quote from: boilingpitsofsewage on August 05, 2015, 10:54:39 PM
This guest is about as bad as people who believe in Global Warming lol.

Did John provide an explanation for night yet?

Someone needs to ask John if he knows what a null hypothesis is.