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This is really kind of off topic but...I am so sick of what Noory has done to the show that I have started listening to http://www.theparacast.com/ I can't recommend it highly enough. I will say I lean towards the 'nuts and bolts' school ufology and that is probably my main interest. The show does lean in that direction with a healthy dose of skepticism.

But regardless of your personal taste if you want to hear paranormal subject matter with great guests and actual intelligent questions this is the place to go. You can download shows from the site or through iTunes. The only negative I have found is it is only produced once a week.

Bonus, a promo on the show last week actually said "if you are tired of Snoory..."

The other reason the PHS used to be funnier than it is now is timing. He was at a very fortuitous confluence of events for that type of show to work. Talk radio was growing in popularity and cell phones were becoming ubiquitous.

Phil was on during drive time, first in Miami then L.A. and people would listen for short periods in their car, have a freaking aneurysm and call on their cell phone without listening long enough to get the joke.

At night the audience pool is not large enough and people aren't as pumped up and reactionary as they are while fighting traffic after the work day.

Quote from: b_dubb on July 16, 2011, 01:54:19 PM
that would be a candidate for explaining the triangle sightings.  however, witnesses said that the triangle ufo blacked out the sky. this triangle (in the video on the linked page) does not black out the sky

I realize that, however eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable. Given something that looks plausible, and lacking any pickled in a jar of alcohol aliens, I have to give a lot of leeway between the two.

For years the sighting of giant triangles have been one of the most intriguing UFO mysteries. Here is an explanation I have never seen before but that makes a lot of sense. You have to scroll about a third of the way down to the video labeled Naval Ocean Surveillance System.

While I would love for there to be an other worldly source of UFO I have always assumed that the majority of really good sightings were of classified military projects. This one could clearly be taken as a "giant triangle" type UFO.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/07/secret-space-arsenal/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+wired/index+%28Wired:+Index+3+%28Top+Stories+2%29%29&pid=587&viewall=true

Just wondering how many people here are on Google+ ? If anyone from here would like an invite and does not have one let me know (you can PM me your email if you don't want to post it, you can also spell it out such as "me at me dot com" to prevent it being scraped).

Yeah I just found this yesterday through Stitcher for Android, although it is also available on iTunes and other places. I really liked it a lot! First episode out of the box was a full show with Jim Mosely (Saucer Smear) discussing UFO fakes he has uncovered. I really love this show for all the same reasons I fell for the old C2C back in the 90s.

Then I get in my car about 5 am EST today and listen to George talk to some lady on the phone about Laetril therapy and how the government persecutes secret health treatments.

Paracast strikes me as being very much like the old C2C.

Two things I have noticed:

1. We always hear "Most cops are good, the few bad ones give them a bad name." Yet when something egregious is caught on tape or proven beyond a doubt it turns out that even if only one or two cops were causing the problem others present, sometimes many, kept their mouths shut.

If most cops are truly good we should have no need of video or civilian witnesses to 'out' them, the good cops should be turning them in or speaking out about them, yet that rarely if ever seems to happen.

2. I once fought a traffic ticket, everyone involved, from the cops to the prosecutors lied through their teeth (I still won because I had iron clad proof they were wrong). If they are willing to lie over a traffic issue why should I assume they get more honest in other matters?

Quote from: IanSucks on May 18, 2011, 01:25:02 PM
Noory is just another low life actor that will do anything for a dime.

A Prince of Lies and Illusion aka con artist.



He'd probably stick his pinky finger in that dog's asshole just to see if he could generate a wormhole. Then interview an expert on the topic and try and sell it to the coast audience as a science.

I think a good definition of a dog's asshole would be a "wormhole".

I know I keep saying it, but Jesus Christ I turn on C2C and yes it's another vitamin discussion. It struck me during yesterday's show,about the time George was asking about Al Capones favorite recipes, he is going after the 7 to 25 demographic.

No that's not age, that's number of cats owned by listener.

I listen to the Alex Jones show daily and have found a really fun game. When you have a second and you catch him saying "just Google such and such if you don't believe me" go ahead and do it. Everything he uses as proof is either something from his own site that or something from the main stream media that he is taking wildly out of context.

Just the other day he announced he "could tell" from looking at the photos that the helicopter that crashed in Bin Laden's compound was radio controlled and had no humans on board.

Maybe I just notice it more but....I listen to the show most mornings over the Internet when 640 KFI is replaying it. It seems like 4 out of 5 times now George is discussing some freaking health topic.

Maybe it should just become one of those three hour vitamin and colon cleanser infomerrcials and be done with it.

Quote from: onan on March 19, 2011, 07:51:07 PM

Well said. I remember a Randi Rhodes show several years ago talking about how Shultz took a large handout from some group that other talk show hosts wouldn't touch because of the fear of becoming too indebted.

What I like about Rhodes over all other hosts both conservative and liberal is she not only presents her opinions with lots of supporting information, but she challenges her audience to do their own research. She (at least used to) would state "don't believe me. Don't believe any talking head that gets paid to talk to you. Do your own research." She would then list several places to look for information. And I don't mean liberal websites. It is too bad that she isn't on more stations.

Well Rhodes is nuts in her own right. I used to listen to her occasionally here in South Florida when she was only a local host and she contradicts herself constantly and says things that make no logical sense at all.

That said I heard her live the evening of the 2000 election, just supposition on my part but I believe she was part of a pre planned Democratic operation to cast doubt on the Palm Beach County election results.

Quote from: cwarner on April 12, 2011, 04:39:18 PM
This is true, but you don't need the internet to call a couple schools and their faculty to verify that someone attended. He was telling his story to George Knapp initially, an investigative reporter. Actually, you gotta wonder why Knapp didn't do a more thorough background check and verify that the attended those schools..

Such a silly flaw to such a great story :S

Not only that but what about things like graduation programs, campus directories, paper records etc.? Thousands or probably tens of thousands of pieces of paper would have had to have been located and changed. For instance how many grads would have had copies of the program from their graduation? The government contacted everyone of them, replaced their programs with ones that omitted Lazar's name? And they all went along with this? Or perhaps the government committed thousands of burglaries to obtain these documents?

Also how did he get an MS from MIT and never get his name on a published scientific paper? And the government did not scrub his high school record; how did someone from the bottom third of his class get admitted to MIT in the first place?

I could write several pages about what is wrong with Lazar's story. He is an obvious fraud and there is no even remotely plausible scenario under which he is telling the truth.

All of which is a real shame because I wanted the story to be true and I now when I hear Knapp talk about how you can believe his newer stories because he is "a journalist" I can't help but think how easily he was taken in by Lazar and how to this day he refuses to admit it.

Quote from: Do you think it was angels? on January 24, 2011, 04:16:51 PM
The Soviets had a man on the very team!

Not only that there was a very close to 100% agreement that the Japanese had to be defeated and anyone asked to keep a secret considered it their duty to do so. If you go back and read newspapers and magazines of the time you will be astounded at the amount of public will to win that war.

What truthers want us to believe is that a fairly large number of people, from many walks of life, willingly agreed to kill thousands of their fellow Americans and that every single one of them has kept his or her mouth shut ever since. I was in the military and I assure you that it is not made up of mindless robots that would go along with this. Even if you could get every person to follow the orders to carry this out they sure as hell would not keep their mouths shut afterward.

I worry more about the mind control guests. Some of them have sounded outright crazy and some of the callers they attract are either the ultimate phone trolls or truly deranged. Some of them sound really frantic as well, it's sad to listen to them and even sadder to hear their delusions reinforced.

I've been thinking the same thing. From the material he was obsessed with it's probably a pretty safe bet he had listened to C2C. I think sometimes Noory is irresponsible in allowing some of the blatant nut bags go on unchallenged as he does, particularly the ones that practice quack medicine, but in the end it is the fault of the individual and no one else. He has had some mind control guests that sounded blatantly nuts and the callers even more so.

I find it ironic that Glen Beck keeps getting blamed when it was much more likely the guy listened to Noory.

Quote from: George Drooly on January 12, 2011, 04:30:38 AM
Well OBVIOUSLY the buildings had explosives planted in them from DAY ONE, duh

That's so obvious, why did I not think of that?

Quote from: Do you think it was angels? on January 11, 2011, 02:49:56 PM
Controlled Demolition is the dumbest conspiracy theory I've ever heard.  It can only be believed by folks who have never so much as planned a birthday party.

How true. Either of the towers by themselves would have been the largest controlled demolition in history. Yet we are supposed to  believe that two jobs of this size were prepped in buildings that were inhabited 24/7 and had tens of thousands of workers streaming in and out every day. I've never heard an even remotely plausible theory to explain how this was done.

So far I like him, but the stuff he has discussed about 9/11 bother me. Sure we all know a secret cabal of Jew, Free Masons and Republicans were really behind it, everyone knows that, but were angels involved in any way? That's the sort of thing George would get to the bottom of.

9/11 is up there but barely beaten out by any theory that has the entire medical establishment deliberately keeping people sick to make money. You have to believe that everyone who busts their ass for decades to make it to, and then graduate from medical school somehow gets converted into being a scum bag willing to let your grandma die of cancer so they can make their yacht payments.

I wouldn't worry about the page views or posts. The thing about this board, and the reason it's one of the few boards I visit, is that the posts are generally well thought out and readable. I would rather come here with 50K views than go somewhere with 5 million separate posts, 90% of which are in all caps or free of any intelligible grammar or punctuation.

Did anyone hear this guy the other night? Either George doesn't care or he is in on a scam IMO. This gentleman claimed repeatedly to be a practicing attorney with a busy practice in Vancouver Washington; but a Google search for his law office only turned up one hit and that was one of those free 'business directory' listings with very little info. It looked like something that was thrown together in case someone were to Google him during the show.

Does anyone have access to a directory of lawyer in Vancouver or a Vancouver phone book (frickin' 'pay for phone number sites' have made it impossible to find real directory listings on Google). I can't believe a busy law office would have as little of an online presence as this guy.

Quote from: ShelliesMom on October 07, 2010, 05:07:51 AM

Supposedly, they have over 3,000 members too    

You know considering the audience numbers the show has and the frequency that George mentions the NHZ, I don't think 3,000 is very impressive at all.

Quote from: ringthane on October 09, 2010, 02:51:00 AM
Noory: "You know what they always say... if you think it is, it probably is."

So I really am the world's greatest lover.

Yesterday or the day before he said something like 'the collapse of the twin towers looked like an implosion' and other truther B.S. Not that a sample of one proves anything but.....Geoge = idiot = truther.....

Quote from: MV on June 20, 2010, 02:27:45 AM

The following is a list of documented George Noory  quotes. Known as "Nooryisms"... these non sequitur quips and  half-witted, meandering ramblings serve only to exacerbate my feelings  of disappointment over what has happened since Noory took over Coast to  Coast AM. If you happen to know of others and you can document when  they occurred, please post them in a reply to this topic.

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"Wouldn't it be amazing if one day they discover a buried UFO and flipped a switch and on it goes?" (Another non-sequitur.)

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Maybe he should check with Stephen King on that; I think it was called The Tommyknockers.

My brother has a friend who started going door to door years ago for a Florida environmental group; back when Greenpeace was known for doing the same thing. What few people knew is the folks from Greenpeace and other groups were not volunteers. The standard rate was the solicitor got to keep half of whatever they collected. My brothers friend worked his way up in the group and has made a nice living as an environmental activist.

I am always amazed that certain people will slam 'big business' but never seem to realize environmental groups, labor unions and civil rights groups are also big business, the only difference is they traffic in guilt instead of selling things people might actually want.

Quote from: Strel on September 30, 2010, 01:47:40 PM
I guess I'm jaded because I really used to enjoy RCH segments, I'd look forward to when he was on.  I didn't agree with his notion of artifacts on Mars, etc... but he was entertaining to listen to.  My opinion changed when he began to describe everyone working for NASA as out of touch or conspiratorial.  I remember one show when he said that NASA would either cut off or switch to pre-recorded tape before any images came back from satellites.  Even George didn't accept that.

The fact that's he's now saying that every celestial body from our moon out to the edge of the galaxy is 'strewn' with relics and ancient ruins (and the Gov. is hiding it all) is just too much...  He also seems very angry that real scientists and engineers won't take his ideas seriously.

He also went off on some tangent about how NASA was selecting launch dates and times based on astrological criteria. Who knew NASA was full of astrologers? This was years ago with Art. I think Art must genuinely like RCH because he tried to gently dissuade him and reason with him, but of course RCH would have none of it. After a few weeks he seemed to have dropped the subject though.

Shouldn't 3-d movies really be called 4-d in that it takes time to watch them? (And likewise traditional 2-d movies should actually be referred to as 3-d).

Quote from: timpate on September 24, 2010, 12:27:02 PM
Are you the type of person that would go inside and order food say from Taco Bell. Then wait due to your order being a special order like you want a burrito supreme with no sour cream. Then when you get the fucking burrito it still has the shit on it and and it took you damn near 20 minutes to get the fucking order. Would you go back and say something?

No, I don't expect the people at the fast food place to get my order right so I am never surprised when they don't. Anyhow if I am eating crap from Taco Bell I am just looking for quick calories to stuff in my face. If I was going to be picky about my food I wouldn't be there in the first place.