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Quote from: (Redacted) on July 16, 2015, 05:40:06 PM

Is this typical behavior in radio, or is it only Dave?

To me it seems very, very stupid- if it is. Television, NPR, Sports, and other radio stations have frequently the same guests. They don't blackball someone if a politician goes on Meet the Press from going on This Week. Or if a ballplayer talks to ESPN and then the next day goes on Fox Sports. Or Letterman has some brain-dead Hollywood starlet on and then she is on TMZ tomorrow. It is crazy the way iHate and Norry are working....publicity is usually a win-win. Someone hears/sees a person somewhere might listen/watch the person somewhere else. And that person gets their face, name, team, political agenda, etc out.

Quote from: Izintit? on July 16, 2015, 06:38:42 PM
This `Nero Blaze` is intriguing to me. According to Wikileaks, the main character,loosely based on Noory himself travels back in time to 27 A.D.,the early ministry of Jesus in hopes of saving Jesus from the Jews. The hero,Nero Blaze (changed from G.N. Blaze) first saves future apostle Paul during a fishing accident and introduces Jesus to Paul and his brother Andrew.Unbeknownst to Blaze however,the evil archvillain Dr. February (Robert Davi) has entered the Blaze compound and subdued  T.D. Doublestuff (Blazes` slow but trusted assisstant) and now controls the time machine- the AB2003. Blaze is stuck in time! This is the entirety of the outline Noory submitted but he did add that Bill Mumy was contacted for the title role.  … DISCLAIMER: This is a parody of Mr.Noory`s writing ability and should be taken as such. It is not known if Mr. Mumy and/or Mr. Davi have been contacted for said roles in `Nero Blaze`but no defamation was or is intended by their inclusion in this parody.

I look forward to the interview and book review in the 22nd century by the great radio host "Dexter Monterrey" from HELL-TO-HELL-AM since Dave Norry, aka Nero Blaze, "saved" Jesus in his time machine and thus interrupted the plan and we were all doomed there by original sin and no salvation. Thanks Dave.
-GNS

Quote from: lrgmnky on July 16, 2015, 02:53:06 PM
According to NPR there are about 900 member stations.  Not to say that listenership is as big...  How many Subarus are there out there?

Richard Syrette should do the NPR interview. Just to lead to much confusion of Subaru and Prius drivers as to who is the NPR host and who is the guest.

Quote from: 136 or 142 on July 16, 2015, 02:22:20 PM

I'd rather be a resident of Cascadia than of Canada.

Yeah, I think people would be happier in smaller, more homogenous countries. They would also be more democratic and people's vote would actually matter.

It also would, if we still had a good defense pact and trade and means to move, mean less wars (or at least less "bad" wars.) Go to a country like Norway, Switzerland, etc and it is so clean, people are happy, the economy is good, the wages (but prices) are high, etc. There are many good places in the US and Canada also, mainly smaller towns, where it is clean and nice, people are friendly and hardworking, sense of community, etc. But the multicultural wastelands of our cities, now even larger towns, with the smells, violence, traffic, cultural problems, poverty, crime, etc suck. Even in good countries the bigger cities (like Oslo has areas that are awful due to bad immigration policy and being too nice to other cultures and taking in refugees who won't assimilate, rape, etc. Sweden now has one of the highest rape rates in the world, especially developed countries directly due to the types of immigrants and refugees they took in.)

Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez has been identified as the shooter although "though FBI Special Agent in Charge Ed Reinhold said authorities were still investigating a motive."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-police-officer-shot-near-tennessee-army-recruiting-center/

We have enough shooting problems in this country with crazy white guys, video-game addicted goth teens, and inner-city blacks- do we need to import Muslims, or those cartel members, to do their fun and games also? Stop immigration, even legal, from these areas.

ps: ISIS tweeted about the attack before it happened, supposedly. I guess we get intel from Twitter posts? Is that why they are still allowed to use it? If we can go after some kid who downloads a song illegals with full force of government why can't we at least cut off radical Muslims from posting to twitter or communicating with the Fifth Column already in our countries?

Typical leftist anti-crime make-work program busted for having guns and drugs in Democratically run Baltimore.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-safe-streets-raid-20150714-story.html#page=1

"City officials have suspended operations of the Safe Streets anti-violence program in East Baltimore after police officers found seven guns and drugs stashed inside the Monument Street office."

"They were identified as Artez Harris, who had been a "violence interrupter" for Safe Streets since September 2013, and Ricky Evans, who had worked for Safe Streets since February.Both were charged with drug and gun offenses and were jailed. Neither had an attorney listed in online court records."

Quote from: 136 or 142 on July 16, 2015, 02:00:50 PM

With the exception of Virginia and North Carolina (and Florida and Texas which are barely southern states, much of Florida has completely different demographics and Texas is actually in the south west) the South is by far the poorest region in the United States, even when taking into account purchasing power parity, which is somewhat dubious anyway.


I think many Americans in the rest of the U.S wouldn't care one way or the other if the south succeeded.

I would the more ideal break-up would be to individual states to have more autonomy or along cultural/political lines (say the South, SW, MidWest, Mountain West, Inland Empire NW, and some of Northern California) as a bloc and the Eastern Seaboard and most of the coastal west coast as a block.) With some treaty between us for mutual defense and trade but allow the individual areas, or states, to determine their culture and society and laws and to control immigration, since the Federal government won't do so at all.

Quote from: HorrorRetro on July 16, 2015, 11:05:36 AM
I usually take evening walks by the bay, since we live less than 5 minutes from the beach. Last night I decided to walk through the marsh behind my house instead. I'm glad I did. I had my first owl encounter! He let me get very close. He was as curious about me as I was about him. I love owls, so this was a really great experience.     Not the best shots, since I didn't have the right flash on, but I got some okay shots.

http://ginagothejackson.smugmug.com/Pacific-Northwest-Nature/i-zFkDgpC/A

http://ginagothejackson.smugmug.com/Pacific-Northwest-Nature/i-42r6xFd/A

http://ginagothejackson.smugmug.com/Pacific-Northwest-Nature/i-w4zwMjH/A

http://ginagothejackson.smugmug.com/Pacific-Northwest-Nature/i-tPB7BL7/A

http://ginagothejackson.smugmug.com/Pacific-Northwest-Nature/i-6J9TxC6/A

Great photos! I had some baby owls in my hollow tree last year but my lack of ability and saw only at night I couldn't get photos. It would seem the human eye can see in darkness much better than a smartphone or Point-And-Shoot digital camera. I had same problem with a whole family of ducks (Black-Bellied Whistling Wood Ducks) that decided my yard was a pond, after the floods, and live in the trees. Mamma and Daddy leading 10 ducklings (that have amazing camouflage) in a row across my yard. I wish I had my camera.
Good news, if you will likely be able to hear Art's new show MITD on KLX-FM in your area! I'm jealous.

Quote from: Georgie For President 2216 on July 16, 2015, 01:14:05 PM
Conversely, we should all be reading the same news stories, reciting the same memes, and watching the same videos.  Hence if there is a global consciousness it should be largely in sync unlike ever before.

I don't know. It would seem to be that the thousands of channels on cable tv, political bent of news sources for any political opinion, the millions of different blogs, porn fetishes, news sites, and propaganda sites and instant streaming and ability to watch almost any genre of movie, documentary, cartoon, porn, tv shows, or cat videos would make us "less" connect to a common mind, or global consciousness, memes, political opinions, religion, etc. I would think this would tend to splinter, not unite. I could be wrong though.

Quote from: No Quarter on July 16, 2015, 11:48:47 AM
unless their ships are parked somewhere in our solar system   

But those types of radio waves don't travel well underwater, so the UFO/USO are lucky and they don't need to here that music.

Quote from: 136 or 142 on July 16, 2015, 11:10:00 AM

You are aware that would shift the New USA considerably to the left and completely marginalize the U.S South and diminish the 'religious' right even further?

Sounds like a good idea to me.

More on my crazy idea:
Yeah, but I would be ok with that because under my paradigm the self-defense treaty (and trading bloc) is common language, race/culture, not based on religion- although all Islamic states would be prohibited from joining or trading and immigrants kicked out and deported. (So basically an Anglo-European based group of nations) but the individual countries (or States/Provinces depending on how each country decides) still control their language, laws, social issues, welfare programs, currency, borders, etc. (So if Texas want to have a "Christian state" and prayer in schools or California wanted a "homosexual state" and circle-jerks in class it would be their citizen's decision, if Germany wanted to ban guns but UK wanted to bring them back? Fine. Individual countries (or states/provinces) make own laws. Movement within countries is still allowed (and movement between bloc countries is allowed depending how each country decides, there could be borders, or not, or even mini-treaties, like Schengen inside the bloc.) Non-white countries (Japan, Common-Wealth countries, etc) if proven stable, could join up, at least for trade, and maybe defense if they prove themselves willing. The main idea though is allow more local rule, focus on defense (of countries, border, fishing, mineral, oil&gas rights) and to cut-off the bad regions, religions, and countries until they grow up or kill each other off.

Quote from: paladin1991 on July 16, 2015, 12:00:09 AM
Dammit Albrecht.  Are you reading my mind again?  Stop it, right fucking now.  It tickles, dammit.

I demand a rebate for all shows and classes I took from Ingo Swann, Ed Dames, and Geller! I was trying to remote view the lotto numbers and the locker room of the Dutch girls field hockey team and I get your thoughts instead?!? (Now I gotta use bleach on my brain remotely.)

But does anyone know the "reach" of Portland's KLX-FM? Any DXers for FM out there? Any chance of the signal reaching the Inland Empire (Spokane,Coeur d'Alene, etc, area?)

Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on July 15, 2015, 07:37:22 PM
That moonshine did look painful. When I was a kid, they used to sell an awful alcohol called "Everclear" that was the same thing.

Nah, the highest proof of this moonshine brand is 100. So about that of a decent whiskey or whisky, if aged or bonded. Everclear, and the various others of that type "grain alcohol" are, roughly, 190 proof (the highest proof you can get by distillation (95% alcohol by volume) due to a weird effect on boiling points between water and alcohol.

"Everclear", or more properly any grain neutral spirit is actually the most "clean" tasting, when watered down to a more palatable level. Everclear etc is "nasty" because it tastes so astringent- because it is almost pure alcohol. (It is meant/sold as a mixer- like a hs or frat party with trashcan punch etc. And packs a "punch" and is relatively taste-less when mixed.)

ps: The "story" goes that Dmitri Mendeleev, yes, that guy, said that vodka (grain neutral spirits in our USA legal lingo) ideal proof should be 80 (40%abv).

Quote from: 136 or 142 on July 15, 2015, 10:56:58 PM
Albrecht, I should just add that if the U.S only traded with democracies, not only would it lose trade (and the jobs from them) with the dictatorships, it would also lose some trade and probably a considerable amount of trade with the democracies.


Companies buy inputs from the dictatorships.  No doubt American made replacements could be found in most cases (though not with the rare earth minerals the U.S mostly gets from China) but they would either be at a higher cost or be of lower grade or quality.  How do I know this? Because I assume that most businesses know what is in their own best interests when they are deciding who their suppliers will be. So, given the higher prices and/or lower quality of the inputs, U.S goods will be less competitive on the world market and this will result in a loss of trade to the democracies.

Sure, the problem of all attempted cartels (or similar) or socialist/communist plans. That is why it would need to be something above simply profits as motivation. Like common defense, culture, religion, etc. But also simply the savings of our military costs (protecting other country's borders, all our wars, protecting shipping lanes around the globe) and no more foreign aide (in any form) should off-set the higher prices.

Currently they depend on our trade more than our economies do (we export less.) How would the Saudi, Qatar, Mexico, Venezuela, etc etc handle it if we didn't buy their gas and oil? Or China if we didn't buy their cheap (and now better) crap? Reckon they could control their population, maintain their social structure with the imbalances of wealth, or even feed themselves? For how long? Africa would be be screwed, but that's the norm. And we have greater resources naturally than China or most other countries, especially more immediately needed stuff (one can do without an iPhone but without oil or food? (Which is why it would be great to get Russia involved as they have rare earth in addition to oil&gas and AG production, when run efficiently, that Europe needs though if protected from immigration or wars, it could likely still survive with some hardship and trade with us, even if not.)

As I said, with my crazy theorizing, the genie is out of the bottle due to our friendliness and trusting nature (and avarice) so with things already "out there" like nukes, bio/chemical technology, and a 5th column of immigrants already in our borders my "plan" would likely not work. But, who knows, some measures could be adopted to at least stem the tide, a bit.

Quote from: 21st Century Man on July 15, 2015, 10:43:11 PM
You are not advocating a North American Union are you, Albrecht?

Ha, sorta, but more like an Articles of Confederation; local politics, laws, regulations, social issues, welfare schemes, currency, etc are up to the sovereign States (and/or states, provinces, etc) but a mutual protection and trading bloc consisting of Western Nations with a, relatively, common background and culture. And cutting off trade, and help in any form, to others. A pipe-dream, of course, and the course has been set because genies are notoriously hard to get back into the bottle. But maintain our technology, medical, and military supremacy and let the other nations fail due to in-fighting, famine, disease, and corruption, or, succeed, on their own internal merits. A 100years, or so, too late now. Though we could still take some measures (like with immigration and limiting/eliminating foreign wars and better trade pacts only with decent people.)

Quote from: Jorch Einstein on July 15, 2015, 10:15:58 PM
A few more recent Nooryisms:

"Things are going to get scary as we lurk into the future."

"I would guess that with every tremendous creation and discovery, we're going to have some clunkers too I guess, so, y'know, let's just hope that the discoveries of the good things are better."  This was klashik. You could tell the guest was taken aback by Jorch's sheer stupidity, and stammered, "I-I agree with that."

"You can't judge a writer by its cover."

Hahaha. We need a thread just for Norryisms. And, whoever, needs to release another complication of Norryisms onto youtube. The two out there are just klashiks- but there is so many more malapropisms, mixed metaphors, and bumblings that deserve a new compilation.

Quote from: 136 or 142 on July 15, 2015, 09:27:19 PM

Jobs would actually decline considerably from the loss of foreign trade.  Also, the loss of rare earth minerals from China would be devastating to much of the high tech industry.


Turning inward was also very bad for China from the 1400s to the 1900s, though you haven't suggested entirely turning inward, and China turned its back on progress entirely, which you also don't suggest.


I also don't see how this would prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon if it desired.

None the less, according to Noory, your writing of this today can't be a coincidence, as one person who likely agrees with virtually everything you wrote, Gerald Celente will be on Coast to Coast tonight, unless, of course, Noory has suddenly changed his economics adviser. 


(If anybody takes that literally, and I actually think most people get my 'joke',  I'm fully aware that Noory has four 'economics advisers' who appear seemingly at random on his show: Celente, Fitts, Egleshon and Shedlock.)


Were you aware that Celente would be on tonight?  I have to say I'd be surprised if you were.

I was not aware of Celente being on tonight. But, I must have been aware subconsciously or via a remote viewing- since, as we know- there are no coincidences. The "American Plan" of Clay, Hamilton, etc lead to some of the best growth of the USA and it consisted of high tariffs, subsidies for infrastructure, support for farmers, etc. (Though would need to be updated for modern times.) But I'm not advocating a complete autarky (though arguably with a country as large as we have it could work with some serious planning and some hardship) but simply trading only with "good" people and looking after ourselves first. And avoiding foreign wars unless directly impacted (self-defense.) Western Nations, right now, have the edge. Don't give it up for political correctness, white guilt, or thinking that other countries/culture's will "appreciate" our help and be thankful for it. They will/are using our openness, trusting nature, weapons, and honestly against us. Given the other side of the coin they would annihilate, or at least take severe advantage of, us in a heartbeat.

Our priorities should be, first, after looking after one's family, is protecting the borders, our people, our waters, and then our friends. But no more aide to the 3rd world- humanitarian, militarily, or otherwise- and no more technology transfers and immigration. End the wars there and let them sort it out. China likewise, their society would crumble before ours (though it is true that they would, as a centralized authority, be quick to "deal" with any problems with people- so could survive, but not thrive anymore.) Then, when they all grow up, maybe trade with the rest of the world again. A combo of NATO, EU, Nordic Countries, OZ, NZ, and especially with Russia on board could successfully trade and survive and thrive. But I'll bet even a "North American Island" could do as well. Remember we would still have advantage of nukes, bio/chem, and tech to repel/dissuade invaders. And that is all I'd want. I don't want world domination or police man/nanny to the world.

Quote from: 136 or 142 on July 15, 2015, 09:02:21 PM

Most, if not all, of North Korea's nuclear technology and materiel came from Pakistan (though the Pakistani government lies that they had nothing to do with it and it was the result of the rogue A Q Khan).  I have no doubt that North Korea had the money to pay for this irrespective of the sanctions.


This happened under Clinton (1998) but it was in September of 2003 when North Korea finalized their bomb, after the U.S invaded Iraq and almost certainly at least partly as a response to that invasion.


I don't disagree that 'appeasement' has had a mixed track record, but war has had a much worse track record.  Care to come up with another option?

Here's a crazy idea. "Fortress North America," Ill call it.

No more wars without direct, actual national interest (self-defense.) Zero, no foreign aid, humanitarian or otherwise, and zero/no trade with countries not aligned with our Western values. No selling weapons to "bad" countries. No "free trade" deals with 3rd world or corrupt countries but actual "free" trade amongst decent nations between companies and individuals but tariffs and ban trade from other "bad" countries. Fortress North America, even, for a time being (we have plenty of resources and land, especially without immigration. Prices will rise but employment will go up and think of savings from no more foreign wars or social spending on immigrants.) But trade also with Europe, Australia, New Zealand, UK, etc and maybe, if they can get their act together, even Russia (lots of minerals etc there and they share some historical links with European religion and culture and have an enemy in Islam and, used to be- until we screwed that up- China.) Kick out immigrants and do not accept anymore from "bad" countries. Secure the borders and our oceans, and the fishing waters, mineral rights, oil&gas, etc from foreign, or non-aligned nations. No buying, or selling, of technology to those countries, bring back that here (for security reasons if not also for jobs.) Other countries, mainly common-wealth nations, or developed countries like Japan, etc can be traded with also as the trading bloc expands but immigration, even from them, will be limited.

Let the others waste away by war, disease, and famine with their corruption, inter-cine religious and ethnic warfare, and general backwardness. Or, maybe, they will grow up and join the modern, or at least 19th century, world and we can trade and have relations with them also (but no immigration for at least a century or two.)

Quote from: 136 or 142 on July 15, 2015, 08:45:11 PM

The argument that North Korea would not have developed nuclear weapons were it not for the agreement is counterfactual and I highly doubt there is any validity to it.


Did I write "Shaw"?  Well, I do own stock in Shaw Communications.

Well sure. One can't "prove" an alternative outcome but I think giving technology, feeding their people, and providing them energy likely stabilized the regime and sped up their progress. It certainly would not have have SLOWED it down. That is just logic and probably reasonable. I could imagine Clinton could argue that our help (food, energy, technology) avoided a regime collapse and then a war, that while not being nuclear, could've devastated the region. Similar to Obama's Iran "deal," likely. Delay, delay, delay, and then "it is not my problem," or, giving them a benefit of the doubt, hope that the regime/society will change during the time it takes to develop the nuke and delivery system so that by the time the technology is developed the leader, government, or society will be more benign and not a threat. I'm not saying appeasement NEVER works but it seems not to have a great track record recently (especially against dictators.)

ps: Yes, you wrote Shaw but typos are understandable on message boards, especially if "Shaw" was on your mind vis-a-vis investments.

Quote from: slippingaway on July 15, 2015, 07:37:26 PM
"Hi Art, how are you?" Everyone asks, even though the caller directly before asked.  I wonder how many times Art has been asked that question in his career.  That's 4 seconds per caller. Let's say he hears it 30 times a night. At at 30x 5 nights a week, 50 weeks (vacations) for 20 years. If those guestimates hold true, Art would have been asked that 150,000 times and it would have wasted 10,000 minutes of air time. That's 166.66 hours of pleasentries.

...That being said, the first thing out of my mouth when I hear that static/cut to live will probably be, "Hi Art, how are you." 

I read, think in Art of Talk, that Art's heart starts racing every single time before he goes on the air.  I imagine that's the same feeling that I get every time I've gotten when I've called and it actually rings. 

If my girlfriend could make my heart race like that, I'd marry her 

Oh and Jaz, your promos are amazing. My piddly little attempt was good in concept, but failed to deliver.  I blame my choice of software, laregly. Windows Live movie maker is kinda weak-sauce.

Yep, bad radio people like Dave LOVE the obligatory "how are you?" "how you doing?" etc because it eats up air-time and allows him to reply which eats up air-time. My local AM guy, Jeff Ward has weaned callers off it over the many years by replying "do you care?" Than every so often if a caller says "yes" he will say "fine." Most callers/listeners have gotten the point. It wastes air time.

It would take a lot of work and be a real labor of love (for someone who would try to sue you if he knew) but I wish someone would make, as "somebody" did with old Art shows, an "ultimate torrent" of Hendrie's stuff. There are torrents out there but there is no "complete, ultimate" and no common naming and date format so many duplicates, bad quality, missing shows, over population of popular shows, etc.

Quote from: Paper*Boy on July 15, 2015, 07:49:03 PM
Listened to a few minutes of Bella-Haven last night, NB said the Snorge had commissioned her at one point to ghost-write a novel about a time traveler.  The main characters name was to be 'Nero Blaze'.

People realized the name was awful, and demonstrated a complete lack of creativity and tone deafness on his part, and tried to talk him out of it - but he insisted.   

Nero Blaze, Time Traveler, by George Noory.  Ugh.

Ugh. Though it could've been an interesting show with some talent and humor. Dexter Monterrey, the famous radio host from the future, could've interviewed Norry, in our time, about his book, featuring Time Traveler, in the future, Nero Blaze. Riveting radio!

Quote from: 136 or 142 on July 15, 2015, 07:40:25 PM

Convenient of you to leave out that it was under the Cheney Administration when North Korea finished assembling its nuclear weapons, to the degree that they have nuclear weapons.  They accomplished this in September 2003, almost certainly as a reaction to the U.S illegal, stupid naive and downright dangerous invasion of Iraq.

The help we gave N.Korea made them able to develop and test the weapon(s.) Of course it takes time to develop an operational weapon. Nobody (or at least I'm not saying) says Obama simply is allowing Iran to make a weapon tomorrow. They will likely (barring Isreali action etc) develop one in several years- probably under a Republican President- so he can be blamed. That could, even, be a reason for the deal. (Obama gets some accolades now and the bonus that a Republican will be blamed once Iran has some.) But Clinton's, with the champagne swilling Albright's help, "Agreed Framework" gave N.Korea the time, technology, and took pressure off the regime with all the energy, tech, and food aide that allowed them to develop the weapon(s.)

ps: it was the "Shah" that we brought to power, and then abandoned in favor of more radical leadership, in Iran- not the "Shaw," as you call him.

pps: I still am more comfortable with Persians, in general, than our supposed allies and close friends (especially of Bushes- but also to the ever-bowing Obama) in other Sunni Gulf states that export even more radical Islam which destabilize the world with their export of it and funding. Not that I like any Muslims, really. Much rather they fight each other, than emigrate to our countries.

I seem to recall hearing the various "experts" co-opt some misunderstood "quantum physics" as an excuse, "We cannot know time and position and same time" "by observing it, the observation changes state of time or position of event", translational issues "quatrains used a different calendar"  "torah/Bible code Aramaic vs Greek, calendar issues"...,  or the usual make a prediction of a major terror attack all the time and then "remind" listeners/viewer of how your predicted it (ignoring other times you predicted something that didn't happen.) But never, ever just say: I was wrong.

Quote from: 136 or 142 on July 15, 2015, 06:19:59 PM

In regards to specifics in this post
1.Bombing the nuclear plants (if Iran has nuclear plants) won't work as they supposedly have deep ground bunkers that can't even be destroyed by so called bunker busters.


2.Nobody is 'giving Iran $120 billion'  I don't know over how many years Iran is supposed to be 'given $120 billion' but they already have an annual GDP of $415 billion, so while even $120 billion in one year wouldn't be insignificant, it's not going to be a game changer for Iran.


3.North Korea was able to get nuclear weapons despite their economy being a basket case.  As I said in the other thread, if Iran is trying to make nuclear weapons, they are likely already putting all their nuclear scientists and resources into it, so the additional cash, at least in the short and medium term, won't change anything.


4.So, given what I said above, I have no idea how an inspections process and Iran's agreement to give up much of their nuclear material makes it more likely for them to develop nuclear weapons, despite the Orwellian lies from known dissemblers like Cheney that you are regurgitating here.  I'm aware Saudi Arabia has said they will try to develop their own nukes in response to this, but it's likely just bluster as Saudi Arabia knows that closer relations between Iran and the U.S will make it much more difficult for them to be an actual enemy of the United States while mostly pretending to be an ally.


5.I agree that $120 billion will make Iran, at least in the short term, a bigger threat to Israel. The trade off is the hope that remaking Iran a member of the world community will hopefully make them a more responsible nation.  Didn't work for China, but China is much more able than Iran to snub its nose at the world.

I think you are correct. This "deal" is very much like the Clinton/Albright "Agreed Framework"deal with North Korea. The one where Clinton sent Albright to meet swill champagne, and celebrate the Workers Party in a grand parade, with the dictator. And, as we know, N.Korea never developed, and certainly, never tested any nuclear weapons.

Having said that I'd trust Persian people over many of our supposed "allies" in the area with their worse version of Islam, inflated/rapid wealth to become "royal," and who never had a culture to speak of and spread their version of Islam all over the world creating. It would be better, of course, not to have to deal with Muslims at all but get rid of the Ayatollah types I think Iran could turn around, certainly more quickly than the Sunni radical areas with their version of Islam, large wealth discrepancies, corrupt "royals", and non-diversified economies.

Quote from: NXOEED on July 15, 2015, 05:52:27 PM

We totally should have called it Pearl Harbor.

No, then we'd get into even more trouble.
No disrespect to the Orientals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HczcZf0TIFY

Stephen Grey's segment on the splisth-show was actually good. Norry didn't even mess it up that much. I guess he was on a high from their possible facebook antics against Art. Or handler Tommy wasn't there to shut him down and start in on alternative health topic. He even let callers finish their thoughts (even some of the more odd ones.)  I hope Art has Stephen Grey on. He was interesting.

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on July 15, 2015, 11:53:30 AM

  I say that out loud daily as the bus and train I'm stuck on is filled with strollers/double strollers-"Can't afford a car, you shouldn't have kids yet". I reference ZPG programs as well.

   The two busiest stops for strollers on the bus? The housing projects and the ER.

Which is why I always vote against any bond issues for more public transport and especially fight against bus lines reaching out to my neighborhood.

ps:  my favorite was watching the news when Washington legalized weed (which I have no problem with, personal choice) but the people waiting in line who were interviewed were hilarious. And the number one question was "what bus line dropped off near the few first stores to open." They have time in the middle of the day to travel, and wait in line for hours, for weed but don't have a job or class during that time- or even a car? Priorities there.

Quote from: LESTAT1900 on July 15, 2015, 12:28:23 PM
Just made a funny little edition of the area 51 frantic caller line when art went off the air.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg3fSuBIQ9I

Hilarious. Nice job!

Quote from: ASC on July 15, 2015, 12:41:31 PM
This station will reach me near Sacramento. That is a HUGE pull.

Does any listener in that region know the approximate distance you can pull that station in? Any chances of picking it up in the Inland Empire area (Spokane, Coeur d'Alene, etc?) Or is that too far away with all mountains before.