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Quote from: trostol on January 17, 2019, 01:57:31 AM
is this show still a thing? lol

Oh yeah.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtUxDbWcVTc

Quote from: coaster on June 09, 2017, 02:45:26 PM
I'm surprised that Hoagland doesn't have the number one radio show in the nation. What with him saving Jimmy Carter's life and all. You're a hero, Hoagland.

It was Art Bell who started this, the proof is here (summarized within the first 5 minutes)

2001-10-18 â€" Art Bell / Richard C. Hoagland â€" Mass Consciousness Experiments
http://sitarchive.com/?p=5421

Art conducted this experiment on Richard's behalf when he was in hospital and Richard became a believer as a result.  (described at 01:18:01)  Why not criticize Art for doing it first?  You really have a hypocritical double standard here.  Carter was pro-disclosure and that is why Hoagland thinks he deserved our support.  You are not a newbie, you are being dishonest by purposely omitting background information in order to make this sound like a publicity stunt to people who don't know the history.  My take is that Carter only deserves our support if he acknowledges that he was threatened with the Kennedy treatment by the U.S. intelligence community.*  The first step in ending the suppression is to expose it.  Much of the rest here is pointless by comparison and you are merely part of the background noise.

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlWFnBGvMPo#t=25m13s

Quote from: expat on June 09, 2017, 09:01:46 AM
I have to agree that Hoagland is an extremely gifted public speaker--but as a writer, not so much. Here's part of his chapter in Richard Grossinger's book New Horizons for a Lost Horizon:

That's all one sentence, folks.

Hmm... is that the entire (unedited) statement?

Quote from: GravitySucks on June 09, 2017, 02:05:34 AM
If you are such an RCH fan, pay the $5 and join Club 19.5.

1.  You quoted a whole screen full of text and graphics just to say THAT?  You're either lazy or purposely being a nuisance.

2.  Why should I go to the trouble of subscribing when I only need two shows?  Don't be an ass.

3.  Well I'm obviously NOT a fan if I am asking that, right?  I am simply an interested party who is not hostile, because I think he truly believes in what he is doing (unlike some other hosts such as George Noory who are totally insincere and nothing but popularity hounds.)  I don't like when Richard frequently interrupts the guest â€" or when he demands they go into long explanations of things we already know, just for the benefit of a theoretical "broader audience" (as if they can't use the internet and there isn't enough lamestream media already.)  Sometimes he does seem a little uptight and maybe he just needs to have a timeout with 'puff the magic dragon' before he goes on the air.  But I also don't like when people fill up discussion forums with pointless play-by-play commentary on every show (you know, the kind of ephemeral offhand remarks which belong on IRC.)  That's not a dig at anyone in particular here but it is why I typically visit this place only when I need more information about a show that interests me.  This forum has nearly 4000 pages but only a few core members stick around because a handful of bad actors have turned it into an asynchronous chat room that's full of shitposts.

Quote from: CronkitesGhost on June 08, 2017, 11:34:05 PM
why is he only doing 2 nights a week? probably driving for Domino's 5 nights.

Radio actually does involve planning and a fair amount of preparatory work.  It's better to have two good shows a week than five mediocre ones.  I think a lot of radio programs would benefit from several days off, or even rotating hosts.  But I am not convinced it's a good idea to go up against Coast on the weekends: a lot of people who can't stand George Noory ONLY listen to Coast on weekends because he is not hosting.

Quote from: ShayP on June 03, 2017, 09:55:38 PM
I am not a member of Club 19.5 yet I received an email.  I'll take it as a personal invitation from Hoagie. 

I didn't get the memo.  Could someone please share the 2 new shows either publicly or privately so I can catch up?

Quote from: (Sandman) Logan-5 on June 04, 2017, 11:36:58 PM
LOL - There's almost 30 scripts running on the player page. Whoever set up the talkstream page knew what they were doing as far as the js goes. Anyone that connects to that page has a web beacon follow them around the net. I won't use the players because they send your mac address to whoever is running the site / stream. That means you can be blocked from the stream unless you use a different device if they decide to black-list your device.

The beacons and spyware can be defeated by Ublock Origin and ScriptSafe or NoScript (depending on the browser).  But if you could point out the script with the MAC address code, I'd really like to see how they do that.

Quote from: zeebo on June 05, 2017, 11:08:51 PM
I think he sees himself as something grander than a typical scientist, a kind of free-thinking visionary not beholden to such rigid ways of viewing reality.  But it's odd - he insists he's got good data like any scientist would require, but then he dismisses that this data doesn't hold up to peer scrutiny, which is directly at odds with the scientific method.  

Genius is next to insanity.

Quote from: K_Dubb on June 05, 2017, 11:18:20 PM
Nah, he's just an old-fashioned fast-talking con man, like the duke and the dauphin in Huck Finn.  Quick but lazy, he's charmed and blustered his way through life, papering himself with bits of other people's frauds like one of those camouflaging insects.  Once in a while the mask will drop and he'll refer to himself deprecatingly as "your crazy host" or something like that, but his is an act, born of imagination, and I appreciate its art.

I think it's more like frustration with pervasive, organized suppression of the evidence that we are playing in the ruins of a great civilization which once spanned the solar system (of which "Forbidden Planet" is a thinly-disguised allegory.)  Despite what Kennedy said in that famous speech, we did not go the moon because it sounds like a fun challenge: that was a cover story every bit as ridiculous as "weapons of mass destruction" and "islamic terrorists attacked these buildings because they hate our freedoms." Some of us are just fed up with being lied to by the establishment on a continuous basis about practically everything.

https://youtu.be/oHxGQjirV-c?t=3h45m32s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlWFnBGvMPo

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on June 05, 2017, 10:54:11 PM
Fraud would imply that he was intentionally trying to deceive and I don't think that's it at all. It's probably more like he's deluded himself into thinking he's an amateur scientist of sorts because of his work as a media consultant for NASA.

I have met native english speakers with Ph.D's who don't know basic english grammar and can't write or speak even half as well as Richard.  The bottom line is that anything a professor could teach you for hire you can learn on your own through research and observation.  Those who choose the latter method because they are pursuing truth instead of a high-paying job often deserve a title more than the former.  Hoagland has been threatened and harassed more than most people know, and that implies he is onto something worthwhile.  I once saw a manager from JPL get rather upset over things which Richard published that they were not ready to discuss in public.  The government's disclosure initiative moves at a snails pace, and this is by design.