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Bernie Sanders 2016 Thread

Started by Jackstar, January 02, 2016, 02:04:57 AM

Value Of Pi

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 03, 2016, 05:04:17 PM
My opinion is that people from either party that have been politicians all of their life are suspect. And that is my opinion no matter which party they claim to be in.

I have an opinion as well, that Senators do not make good candidates for President. I do not remember a good Senator that I would have supported as President.

Trump is not my first choice.

The presidency is an executive office. There are several governors that I did, or could have supported, but none of the current candidates impress me.

As an executive, it is all about surrounding yourself with all of the smart people and actually managing. To me, that takes someone that has experience doing that.

I am not sure who I will vote for in the primary. I know who most closely reflects my conservative ideals, but I am not sure I want that person as President.

It will be interesting to see who the nominees will be. I won't hide behind a smokescreen.  I won't vote for Sanders because I don't agree with his socialist tendencies and I don't think he has the executive experience. I won't vote for Clinton for too many reasons to list here. There were two elections I refused to vote for the Republican candidate, I voted third party instead. If there was a third party candidate this year, I might be inclined to do that again if they represented my conservative values.

I wish the Libertarian party could field a strong candidate. If you look at the results of the last several elections, there is not much difference between the parties once they get elected.

I don't think things will get better until term limits are instituted for Congress and a balanced budget amendment is put in place.

It is sad really. The campaigns try to label and divide the electorate. My guess is that 75% of the US pretty much have the same morals. 5-10% are far right and 15-20% are far left.

But what do I know.

JFK? By today's standards, he was fairly conservative. He might have been before your time.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Value Of Pi on January 03, 2016, 05:16:03 PM
JFK? By today's standards, he was fairly conservative. He might have been before your time.

I was 5 when he ran for office, so it is hard to give a totally objective answer. Anyone can argue I have the value of hindsight.

That being said, I probably would have voted for Nixon due to his experience as Vice-President. Eisenhower gave much more responsibility to Nixon than most vice-presidents. From what I can tel, people were very happy with Eisenhower throughout the country, I probably would have chosen to keep the status-quo.

If it wasn't for the ballot shenanigans in Texas and Illinois, he probably would have been elected as president. Hell, if he had worn makeup In the televised debates, he probably would have been president.

Zenman

I'm with Juan. If Bernie gets elected, I will go back to college for free.

If Trump gets elected, I will get out the popcorn. THAT will be a wild ride.  :D

chefist

Im not a socialist, but I respect Sanders for standing up to the Democrats! Good for him!

GravitySucks

Quote from: chefist on January 03, 2016, 07:05:13 PM
Im not a socialist, but I respect Sanders for standing up to the Democrats! Good for him!

I would never vote for him in the election, but I may cross over and vote for him in the primary

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on January 03, 2016, 03:29:52 PM

And just because Trump hits home with occasional truths (I've agreed with him on many occasions), it doesn't mean he's qualified or capable of running the country.  Putin and other dubious world leaders can also see that Trump's box is empty under the shiny wrappings and are poised to exploit his buffoonery.

Well said, Uhura!  Your posts are always succinct and commonsensical.  What the heck are you doing hanging around here?   :D

Trump    76%
Rand      72%
Sanders 70%

Not surprising, as I am against reckless immigration, reckless military spending, reckless governmental surveillance, and wanting to tax the extreme wealthy to pay for education of American citizens.

I absolutely detest this cuck but if we can't have a competent President, I guess I'd rather have Bernie over Hilary because the corruption would be so intense and the fed would be so dysfunctional that I would probably make a lot of money. Hopefully I could become an ex-pat before his destroyed the country.

Designx

Bernie has just as many bat-poop crazy ideas as Trump has and there's no way in hell that Bernie (just like Trump) will get any of his ideas put into law.
Bernie is too one-dimensional in his take from the rich to prop up the poor and middle class ideas. When I hear him speak it's like a tape recorder playing the same sound bytes.
Yes there is huge inequality but I don't think taking from one group to give to another group is ever the answer.

Jackstar

Quote from: Designx on January 05, 2016, 12:48:01 PM
Bernie is too one-dimensional in his take from the rich to prop up the poor and middle class ideas.


It's not "take from the rich," it's "abolish the elite criminal class." You're right. Perhaps Bernie's subtext is too deep.

Quote from: Jackstar on January 05, 2016, 04:55:28 PM

It's not "take from the rich," it's "abolish the elite criminal class." You're right. Perhaps Bernie's subtext is too deep.

How is that going to happen? Our entire system is founded upon bullshit created by the elite criminal class. How is this guy who can't handle community college washouts cucking up his speech going to take power and wealth away from the most powerful people in the world?

Socialists and extreme liberals talk a good game but always wind up getting in bed with the elite squeezing the already dead American middle class and rallying the poor against them. Why is this old white man going to be any different? At least with Hilary you know she's a corrupt piece of shit, it's out front. This guy is delusional on top of being weak.

Help me to believe and feel the Bern because I'm so disenfranchised with the current candidates.

Quote from: VoteQuimby on January 05, 2016, 12:16:29 PM
I absolutely detest this cuck

I wish there was a system in place that every time someone used the term cuck, 4chan's /po/ would get a dollar.







Hmm.  The Mad Hatter description is apt. 

OK.  That's all for now.

Jackstar

Quote from: VoteQuimby on January 05, 2016, 07:45:43 PM
Our entire system is founded upon bullshit created by the elite criminal class. How is this guy who can't handle community college washouts cucking up his speech going to take power and wealth away from the most powerful people in the world?

Say goodbye to your system.

Quote from: Margaret MeadNever doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.

One way or another, that commode is gonna get flushed.

Quote from: Jackstar on January 05, 2016, 11:22:20 PM


http://priceonomics.com/which-major-has-the-most-expensive-textbooks/

I'm gonna fucking major in pixies.

No kidding!  There's gold in those customized history and science texts Texas demands because the other versions don't get those subjects right.


Jackstar

Quote from: VoteQuimby on January 05, 2016, 11:36:21 PM
What does that even mean?

You wrote "our system," and I wished to make it clear that I, myself, claim no ownership of the revolting cavalcade that western civilization has become. I am merely an observer here.

Ye were warned. I warned ye.

Quote from: Jackstar on January 05, 2016, 11:41:59 PM
The revolting cavalcade that western civilization has become


Isn't that the title of a Kantner/Slick song?

VtaGeezer

Sanders could be Washington + Lincoln + Teddy R + Moses+ Jesus reincarnate but his self-inflicted wound of labeling himself a socialist, regardless how parsed, is a mortal one.

onan

Quote from: VtaGeezer on January 06, 2016, 12:23:44 PM
Sanders could be Washington + Lincoln + Teddy R + Moses+ Jesus reincarnate but his self-inflicted wound of labeling himself a socialist, regardless how parsed, is a mortal one.

Truer words, truer words.

Jackstar

The electorate en masse believes that a "socialist" is one skilled at utilizing social media. You old dinosaurs are adorable, the way you turn on your own.


Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on January 05, 2016, 11:50:29 PM
Isn't that the title of a Kantner/Slick song?

"We Built This City On Graft And Coke"

GravitySucks

Mark Levin just cracked me up.

Chris Mathews of msnbc was trying to pin DWS of the DNC down as to whether the deems were going to allow Sanders to speak during prime time at the convention and all she would say was that he would speak at "an appropriate time"

Mark Levin retorted with "I can tell you when they're going to let him speak. At 1am when all that is listening is the Art Bell crowd!"

So, we all got a shout out on the Mark Levin show!

Quote from: Jackstar on January 06, 2016, 04:34:12 PM
The electorate en masse believes that a "socialist" is one skilled at utilizing social media. You old dinosaurs are adorable, the way you turn on your own.


"We Built This City On Graft And Coke"

That, too, although The Revolting Cavalcade That Western Civilization Has Become was a leftover outtake from Baron Von Tollbooth and the Chrome Nun.  It was later briefly considered as a B-side to Ride the Tiger from 1974's Dragon Fly, the first album by Jefferson Starship (nee Airplane), but was rejected because it was eight minutes long and didn't have a beat the kids could dance to.

Quote from: The King of Kings on January 05, 2016, 10:00:20 PM
I wish there was a system in place that every time someone used the term cuck, 4chan's /po/ would get a dollar.

/pol/ is a board of peace.

Zoo

Sanders is a fucking pimp! If you like getting fuck in the ass by your government and the elite you will not like him. So take a long look in the mirror and ask your self do I really like it in the ass. If you say yes you are not a Bernie Sanders supporter. i recommend you buy lube in bulk!!1

Quote from: 21st Century Man on January 05, 2016, 11:21:22 PM

da man knows wot he talkin about
spoken like a tru cuck
only fair to invite some of me bros from the hood and watch his wife get blacked
compensation for slavery and blacks building Amerikkka

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