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Bernie Sanders 2016 Thread

Started by Jackstar, January 02, 2016, 02:04:57 AM

albrecht

Quote from: Zoo on February 12, 2016, 09:54:33 AM
I think Bernie did a lot better in the debate last night. We all know Hillary is a true Master-Debater but Bernie is getting better and better. I also thought it was funny when Bernie first started she was saying they did not need to debate more. Then she almost lost in Iowa and then she is all about debating more. I also like how he told her she is not president quit yet. Feel the Bern Hillary!!1
Bernie did great, especially when he went in on Kissinger. Unfortunately the moderators or Billary, or himself was stopped and Billary was allowed to hedge and change subjects- and then he didn't finish the issue but went back to other wars. He was killing her on the Kissinger stuff (at least to me or those old enough to remember.)

There maybe a new meaning to feeling the bern.

Looks like Fidel has garnered the devil worshiper vote

http://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1158276457516057&set=gm.1083785344975324&type=3&theater

Quote from: FightTheFuture on February 12, 2016, 02:11:14 PM
There maybe a new meaning to feeling the bern.

Looks like Fidel has garnered the devil worshiper vote

http://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1158276457516057&set=gm.1083785344975324&type=3&theater

I just saw that.  That's an endorsement that he could do without.  Though Bern in Hell has a nice ring to it.

Bodryn

I am a Bernie Sanders supporter, and was a long time Art Bell listener.  I still miss JFK, that former Senator who became a very influential President despite less than 3 years in office; Bernie is a lot like JFK was: intrepid, unafraid to face down the Soviets during the Cuban Missile crisis of October, 1962.   JFK had the advantage of wealthy parents who got their kids interested in politics at an early age, and could afford private schooling.  Bernie has had to grow up in poor conditions, an immigrant family, yet has gone toe to toe with the power structure, the bullies who now dominate our media to an extent unprecedented in modern history.  Bernie follows a great tradition that would be recognized by Minnesotans of years ago when the legendary Floyd B. Olson, who helped start the Democratic Farmer/Labor party in the early 1900's did so in order to avoid being called Communist by these same GOP characters who gain election points just by defaming their opponents, the same old ad hoc attacks on people's reputations rather than the issues that the PEOPLE dare about.   The people who rail against "socialism" really are just channeling the same old GOP scorched earth talk that has gone on for over 100 years just to try and keep the people scared.  It's the same kind of talk Joe McCarthy used when he went after people like Humphrey Bogart, Lloyd Bridges, many others who believed that their political beliefs were NOT anybody else's business, especially not HUAC.  Bernie represents the PEOPLE's last chance to try and stay free of foreign Corporate domination, rigged by the TPP to even supersede our own laws.  There is a lot to know, and few ways to find out about it in this new Dark Age, the slow strangling of our free speech in the US and in the world. 

Zoo

Quote from: albrecht on February 12, 2016, 09:57:12 AM
Bernie did great, especially when he went in on Kissinger. Unfortunately the moderators or Billary, or himself was stopped and Billary was allowed to hedge and change subjects- and then he didn't finish the issue but went back to other wars. He was killing her on the Kissinger stuff (at least to me or those old enough to remember.)

My favorite part is when he said the people are not stupid..... And that Wall Street just gives money to Politicians for the fun of it!!1


Quote from: Bodryn on February 14, 2016, 04:45:10 PM
I am a Bernie Sanders supporter, and was a long time Art Bell listener.  I still miss JFK, that former Senator who became a very influential President despite less than 3 years in office; Bernie is a lot like JFK was: intrepid, unafraid to face down the Soviets during the Cuban Missile crisis of October, 1962.   JFK had the advantage of wealthy parents who got their kids interested in politics at an early age, and could afford private schooling.  Bernie has had to grow up in poor conditions, an immigrant family, yet has gone toe to toe with the power structure, the bullies who now dominate our media to an extent unprecedented in modern history.  Bernie follows a great tradition that would be recognized by Minnesotans of years ago when the legendary Floyd B. Olson, who helped start the Democratic Farmer/Labor party in the early 1900's did so in order to avoid being called Communist by these same GOP characters who gain election points just by defaming their opponents, the same old ad hoc attacks on people's reputations rather than the issues that the PEOPLE dare about.   The people who rail against "socialism" really are just channeling the same old GOP scorched earth talk that has gone on for over 100 years just to try and keep the people scared.  It's the same kind of talk Joe McCarthy used when he went after people like Humphrey Bogart, Lloyd Bridges, many others who believed that their political beliefs were NOT anybody else's business, especially not HUAC.  Bernie represents the PEOPLE's last chance to try and stay free of foreign Corporate domination, rigged by the TPP to even supersede our own laws.  There is a lot to know, and few ways to find out about it in this new Dark Age, the slow strangling of our free speech in the US and in the world.

Well said and I could not agree more!!1

Quote from: Bodryn on February 14, 2016, 04:45:10 PM
I am a Bernie Sanders supporter, and was a long time Art Bell listener.  I still miss JFK, that former Senator who became a very influential President despite less than 3 years in office; Bernie is a lot like JFK was: intrepid, unafraid to face down the Soviets during the Cuban Missile crisis of October, 1962.   JFK had the advantage of wealthy parents who got their kids interested in politics at an early age, and could afford private schooling.  Bernie has had to grow up in poor conditions, an immigrant family, yet has gone toe to toe with the power structure, the bullies who now dominate our media to an extent unprecedented in modern history.  Bernie follows a great tradition that would be recognized by Minnesotans of years ago when the legendary Floyd B. Olson, who helped start the Democratic Farmer/Labor party in the early 1900's did so in order to avoid being called Communist by these same GOP characters who gain election points just by defaming their opponents, the same old ad hoc attacks on people's reputations rather than the issues that the PEOPLE dare about.   The people who rail against "socialism" really are just channeling the same old GOP scorched earth talk that has gone on for over 100 years just to try and keep the people scared.  It's the same kind of talk Joe McCarthy used when he went after people like Humphrey Bogart, Lloyd Bridges, many others who believed that their political beliefs were NOT anybody else's business, especially not HUAC.  Bernie represents the PEOPLE's last chance to try and stay free of foreign Corporate domination, rigged by the TPP to even supersede our own laws.  There is a lot to know, and few ways to find out about it in this new Dark Age, the slow strangling of our free speech in the US and in the world.

The only thing Bernie and JFK have in common is Fidel Castro. JFK wanted to whack him, and Bernie wants to be him.


Zoo

I agree with Bernie Sanders and what he stands for. I want to see his ideas come true. I want a revolution in the Government I want to is it Bern Down. If he does not win then I am voting for Trump and I hope it gets so fucking bad we have no choice as "The People"we have to burn it down!!1 

Quote from: Zoo on February 15, 2016, 06:08:10 PM
I agree with Bernie Sanders and what he stands for. I want to see his ideas come true. I want a revolution in the Government I want to is it Bern Down. If he does not win then I am voting for Trump and I hope it gets so fucking bad we have no choice as "The People"we have to burn it down!!1


Marx and Engels would love you.

Zoo

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 15, 2016, 06:11:22 PM

Marx and Engels would love you.

I truly care not if I am loved or hated. I speak my mind without fear of what others think about me or do to me. I believe if you have something on your mind say it and worry not what others may think. Never be afraid to speak exactly what is on you mind no matter how controversial it maybe. But thank you for saying others might care or hate me 8)!!1   


Zoo

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 15, 2016, 06:19:13 PM
Increase the national debt by 50 trillion dollars.

Do you get your information from?


Jackstar

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 15, 2016, 06:19:13 PM
Increase the national debt by 50 trillion dollars.

I don't think you have a rational grasp of how financing works. Start here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqvKjsIxT_8

Bodryn

Bernie is the only candidate who can save the US from losing its sovereignty.  Nobody here can understand the truth of this until they learn about the centralization of the world's banks, a Global Domination strategy which has largely been enabled by elites here and around the world.  Until you take the time and effort to understand the world banking system, and what this does to the largest industrial nations including the US, you cannot intelligently comment on superficial labels that just tend to separate people, which the superrich LOVE to do, while they rob us blind.  One good way to learn is to listen to a podcast available on CBC radio's "The Current" with Anna Maria Tremonti.   CBC tends to give more scholarly and professional information to the public than anything done in the US, and on a variety of subjects.  It is silly and puerile to dismiss Sanders with simplistic labels.  I support his agenda because he is so much like the leaders we had long ago when I could go to a doctor for $2, stay in a hospital 2 days for about $75, and not pay huge money for pharmaceuticals.  People who laugh at Bernie now have no idea how much they are being ripped off every day by their wealthy overlords, and make the vast majority of Americans more miserable than they used to be.   

NowhereInTime

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 15, 2016, 06:19:13 PM
Increase the national debt by 50 trillion dollars.

First off, not really.

Secondly, AND?

Really.  You're born, you live, you die.  Why do you care about the National Debt?

NowhereInTime

Quote from: Bodryn on February 16, 2016, 03:24:29 AM
Bernie is the only candidate who can save the US from losing its sovereignty.  Nobody here can understand the truth of this until they learn about the centralization of the world's banks, a Global Domination strategy which has largely been enabled by elites here and around the world.  Until you take the time and effort to understand the world banking system, and what this does to the largest industrial nations including the US, you cannot intelligently comment on superficial labels that just tend to separate people, which the superrich LOVE to do, while they rob us blind.  One good way to learn is to listen to a podcast available on CBC radio's "The Current" with Anna Maria Tremonti.   CBC tends to give more scholarly and professional information to the public than anything done in the US, and on a variety of subjects.  It is silly and puerile to dismiss Sanders with simplistic labels.  I support his agenda because he is so much like the leaders we had long ago when I could go to a doctor for $2, stay in a hospital 2 days for about $75, and not pay huge money for pharmaceuticals.  People who laugh at Bernie now have no idea how much they are being ripped off every day by their wealthy overlords, and make the vast majority of Americans more miserable than they used to be.   

This.

onan

Quote from: NowhereInTime on February 16, 2016, 05:29:36 PM
First off, not really.

Secondly, AND?

Really.  You're born, you live, you die.  Why do you care about the National Debt?

Where you been, Jim?.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: onan on February 16, 2016, 05:30:39 PM
Where you been, Jim?.

Busy as heck.  I've been shadowing (and listening to Gabcasts).

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: NowhereInTime on February 16, 2016, 05:32:57 PM
Busy as heck.  I've been shadowing (and listening to Gabcasts).

You didn't miss much. Art was back and quit again. So I take it you're supporting Bernie? The left could do worse. I think he's at least an honest guy with sincere intentions, which is a major point in his favor being a politician, though I think his politics are more suited for a European country than here.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on February 16, 2016, 05:39:39 PM
You didn't miss much. Art was back and quit again. So I take it you're supporting Bernie? The left could do worse. I think he's at least an honest guy with sincere intentions, which is a major point in his favor being a politician, though I think his politics are more suited for a European country than here.

I've been trying to keep up!  Apparently you've become the Angry Dolphin on some of the Art Bell threads.  No, I get the criticism of Bernie's politics; the truth is that, even if elected with a slew of democrats in the House and Senate, the changes he proposes would require a re-sculpting of the American psyche that would require full buy-in from the millennials (and the Boomers and X'ers to die off).  Certainly Bernie wouldn't be around to see it to fruition. The best way to save "American style capitalism" is to have a socialist make it accessible to everyone again.
Any new books in the works?

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: NowhereInTime on February 16, 2016, 05:46:51 PM
I've been trying to keep up!  Apparently you've become the Angry Dolphin on some of the Art Bell threads.

Well, you know me, always feisty. I finally broke my silence and hosted a couple gabcasts with MV last year, I got several PM's as a result from people surprised that I wasn't picking fights and yelling.

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No, I get the criticism of Bernie's politics; the truth is that, even if elected with a slew of democrats in the House and Senate, the changes he proposes would require a re-sculpting of the American psyche that would require full buy-in from the millennials (and the Boomers and X'ers to die off).  Certainly Bernie wouldn't be around to see it to fruition.

I agree. But hey, at least he's shaking things up along with Trump. Our system needed that.

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The best way to save "American style capitalism" is to have a socialist make it accessible to everyone again.

I can't disagree. I've actually come to realize lately that the end result of capitalism is socialism. The capitalists will automate everything seeking to increase profits, the human race will go unemployed, the market will die as a result and the government will have no choice but to nationalize the means of production.

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Any new books in the works?

Yes, one with my publisher almost ready to go out, two others in the works.

Jackstar

Quote from: NowhereInTime on February 16, 2016, 05:32:57 PM
Busy as heck.

I'm legitimately glad you're back! It's been so long, I don't remember what you're wrong about!

I'm going to vote for Bernie in the primaries. Not because I am a supporter but because I think he would make a terrible general election canidate.

Lena

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCjC9BjPgoc

Bernie Sanders fans are weird.
Where they find such?
New Age Hippies and Communists.
Do they want US turn into Soviet Rossiya? Why?

Lena

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eC8VpwOmEU

Bernie Sanders was a bum who didn’t earn a steady paycheck until he was 40 years old. He was a slob who lived in a shack with a dirt floor. He later wrote about masturbation and rape for left-wing rags for $50 a story. The Socialist then wormed his way into politics.

onan

Quote from: Lena on February 17, 2016, 08:10:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eC8VpwOmEU

Bernie Sanders was a bum who didn’t earn a steady paycheck until he was 40 years old. He was a slob who lived in a shack with a dirt floor. He later wrote about masturbation and rape for left-wing rags for $50 a story. The Socialist then wormed his way into politics.


I have it on good authority that he stole candy from a baby.


albrecht

Quote from: onan on February 17, 2016, 08:57:09 AM
I have it on good authority that he stole candy from a baby.
But only so that he could redistribute said candy fairly amongst ALL the babies; each according to their need.

Zoo

I love ignorance it helps with the world come to a end even faster ;D. I love the fact that the American public final gets someone who wants to stop the 1% and people hate him. I think it is absolutely hilarious how much a word can scare people. Yes, do not vote for someone who has your best interest in mind. Just thought people would want to help each other. Shit people I if you really want to fuck things up lets do it!!1

Lena

Quote from: albrecht on February 17, 2016, 02:25:54 PM
But only so that he could redistribute said candy fairly amongst ALL the babies; each according to their need.
People who support Bernie Sanders must have mental Illness.

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