The Other Side of Midnight - Richard C. Hoagland - Live Chat Thread

[CronkitesGhost]

Neal Adams should stick to his art on comic books.  He was one of the best.

what year is the Green Lantern drugs issue from?

I grew up with comic books but never got into the superhero ones much, I liked Archie, Sad Sack, Richie Rich type ones.

[21st Century Man]

He just drew it. Denny O'Neil was the writer during that era, I believe. Anyway, I'm sure you're friend is good but Neal is top pantheon in the industry. I'm not saying that makes him a scientist but he's likely richer than your friend...a lot richer!

Yep, one of my favorites.  Denny O'Neill wrote Batman from the late 60's to the mid 80's.  The best era, IMHO.  Like I said though, Neal really should stick to comic books.

[Dr. MD MD]

I grew up with comic books but never got into the superhero ones much, I liked Archie, Sad Sack, Richie Rich type ones.

Serious question: Are you gay (not that there's anything wrong with that)?

[21st Century Man]

what year is the Green Lantern drugs issue from?

I grew up with comic books but never got into the superhero ones much, I liked Archie, Sad Sack, Richie Rich type ones.

I believe it was 1971 though give or take a year.  The 25 cent price was for extra pages than most comics which ran at 15 cents at the time.  15 cents.  LOL.

[comaphobe]

Yeah, I have much of his work.  Did a hell of a lot of covers in his day.

When would his heyday have been? In terms of sales/popularity/consumption etc? Between approx what years or decades?

[Dr. MD MD]

When would his heyday have been? In terms of sales/popularity/consumption etc? Between approx what years or decades?

70s

[Dr. MD MD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f6hcGJbjL0

[=Schlyder=]

this fucktard doesn't know the difference between a theory, and hypothesis.  Yet all of science is wrong. LOL  he is an anti Trumptard too.. that should explain everything.

[21st Century Man]

When would his heyday have been? In terms of sales/popularity/consumption etc? Between approx what years or decades?

I'd say late 60's to mid 70's. Still did a lot of covers until the 80's.  In the 80's he started his own comic book company and he produced original comic books but the writing was crap and they didn't sell.

[CronkitesGhost]

Serious question: Are you gay (not that there's anything wrong with that)?

lol no. and i had no friends who were reading Marvel/DC comics - the only peer of mine I knew was a big Marvel/DC comic book reader/buyer was my cousin, a socially awkward nerd. This would be mid 70s era, my cousing was a few years older.

[=Schlyder=]

yes his era was late 60s 70s.  I collected batman comics in my youth, as well as Sgt Rock. Russ Heath was also a great comic book artist in that era.

[Dr. MD MD]

lol no. and i had no friends who were reading Marvel/DC comics - the only peer of mine I knew was a big Marvel/DC comic book reader/buyer was my cousin, a socially awkward nerd. This would be mid 70s era, my cousing was a few years older.

I didn't really mean it as an insult. I just associate those with girls reading them when I was a kid. I read them sometimes when I'd get stuck with an issue or two when I'd buy used comics bundles at the used book store. This was back before comics were as collectible as they are now.

[21st Century Man]

Adams seems to have been somewhat busy with DC and Marvel again the last 10 years but I don't have any of that stuff as I had stopped collecting in the 90's.

[Dr. MD MD]

Adams seems to have been somewhat busy with DC and Marvel again the last 10 years but I don't have any of that stuff as I had stopped collecting in the 90's.

I have a lot of his stuff in digital scans now for the iPad.

[=Schlyder=]

I collected these comics when they were originally released.

[Morgus]

Neil told Hoagie comics are boring to him now, he prefers science...

[Dr. MD MD]

Neil told Hoagie comics are boring to him now, he prefers science...

Maybe he should do some comics about science?

[21st Century Man]

yes his era was late 60s 70s.  I collected batman comics in my youth, as well as Sgt Rock. Russ Heath was also a great comic book artist in that era.

I saw where Joe Kubert is still somewhat active and he's been around since the early 40's.  I liked his work.  Of course some of my other favorites were Berni Wrightson,  Walt Simonson, Michael Golden, and Mike Kaluta.   Of course I love artists not as flashy like John Byrne, Steve Ditko, Jack Kirby and the like.

Oops, Kubert died in 2012 though I have this interview for a hardcover anthology of comics that I got at Costco this past Christmas.

[Dr. MD MD]

I saw where Joe Kubert is still somewhat active and he's been around since the early 40's.  I liked his work.  Of course some of my other favorites were Berni Wrightson,  Walt Simonson, Michael Golden, and Mike Kaluta.   Of course I love artists not as flashy like John Byrne, Steve Ditko, Jack Kirby and the like

I'd say Kirby could be pretty flashy. I think he did Rock for a stretch too.

[21st Century Man]

I collected these comics when they were originally released.

Not me.  I was an infant or young child during his peak.  I bought most of them in the late 70's and 80's.

[21st Century Man]

I like talking comics.  I could probably get back into them but

a)  They are so damn expensive now running what 3 or 4 bucks an issue?

b)  Multiculturalism and political correctness has inundated the industry. Sorry I don't want a gay Spider-man or any of that shit.


I could see Wonder Woman as a bi character given where she came from but really don't go there if it bucks the history of the character.

[21st Century Man]

I'd say Kirby could be pretty flashy. I think he did Rock for a stretch too.

Kubert was the main one on Sgt. Rock.  Kirby, yes could be flashy especially as time went on and his work became more angular especially in the 70's.

[Dr. MD MD]

Kubert was the main one on Sgt. Rock.  Kirby, yes could be flashy especially as time went on and his work became more angular especially in the 70's.

Right Joe Kubert not Jack Kirby. It must've been the common initials that threw me. Yeah some of Kirby's stuff on the Fantastic Four and Silver Surfer could be pretty freaky back then, almost psychedelic. Not that I knew that back then but when I've looked at it as an adult it seems pretty clear to me he probably tried dropping acid at some point.

[=Schlyder=]

For Sgt Rock, the best artwork was the Russ Heath artwork. IMHO. He did most of my fave issues.  Kubert was good too. That was a really good comic series.  GI Combat was another good one I collected.... And as I said Batman, and Spiderman, I also collected.

[ItsOver]

b)  Multiculturalism and political correctness has inundated the industry. Sorry I don't want a gay Spider-man or any of that shit.

Bravo Sierra is everywhere.  I'll take Rock or Sgt. Fury.

[crankshaft]

Hmm...

A Richard C. Hoagland Comic Book would obviously be a BIG hit. It could pull in millions of guffaws and maybe even make a few Internet$.

I wonder if it could be done without running afoul of defamation/libel statutes. I supose that depends partially on whether RCH is a big enough 'public person' or not. It may have to be anonymously published from some third world shithole.

I think it's worth looking into. 


NB: I'm already laughing so hard I can hardly breathe. And I may have pissed myself.

[astroguy]

I wonder if it could be done without running afoul of defamation/libel statutes. I supose that depends partially on whether RCH is a big enough 'public person' or not.

Puh-leese.  Science advisor to Walter Cronkite?  Good friend of Gene Roddenberry, Ike Azimov, and Arthur C. Clark?  You're covered.

In all seriousness, I would suspect that yes, his own self-aggrandizement is enough to consider him a public figure for the sake of parody without defaming.  But I'm not a lawyer.  But I used the same argument against an astrologer when she started to try to sue me: She billed herself as "World Famous Celebrity Astrologer" and it was on all her websites and social media.

[ItsOver]

Hmm...

A Richard C. Hoagland Comic Book would obviously be a BIG hit. It could pull in millions of guffaws and maybe even make a few Internet$.

I wonder if it could be done without running afoul of defamation/libel statutes. I supose that depends partially on whether RCH is a big enough 'public person' or not. It may have to be anonymously published from some third world shithole.

I think it's worth looking into. 


NB: I'm already laughing so hard I can hardly breathe. And I may have pissed myself.

[comaphobe]

Hmm...

A Richard C. Hoagland Comic Book would obviously be a BIG hit. It could pull in millions of guffaws and maybe even make a few Internet$.

I wonder if it could be done without running afoul of defamation/libel statutes. I supose that depends partially on whether RCH is a big enough 'public person' or not. It may have to be anonymously published from some third world shithole.

I think it's worth looking into. 


NB: I'm already laughing so hard I can hardly breathe. And I may have pissed myself.

There was a "Henry+Glenn Forever" comic circulating internet about 10 years ago. Rollins was amused but Danzig was not. These 2 used to be friends in the early 1980s to early or mid 1990s. The comic portrays them as gay lovers.

It would be effortless to do something similar with RCH. Plus you could do a Michael in Japan spinoff centered around a short and pudgy sedentary lifestyle femme with stubble beard, carebears backpack, iPad, iDildo, and iThing, and reward APP for 7-Eleven, Pizza Hut, and Taco Bell. One episode could cover a trip to the nearest  7-Eleven with Wireless Hotspot and could be based on creating the typical Slurpee; IE 1 layer of Coke, a layer of blue raspberry, one layer of Mountain Dew, one layer of lime green, another layer of Coke, and top it off with a jigglyswirl of cream soda on the top with a quick plop of Orange Crush on the very very top, leaving just enough to clip the tit-shaped dome lid on top of the Megasized Super Cup with built-in harness and reusable corrugated flourescent pink flexi-straw, printed with the theme of the latest blockbuster summer flop. The possibilities are endless.

All one would need to do is write short little scripts based off of OSOM dialog/material or soundbites. You could sum up the entire Chicken Neetza incident in just a few frames. Include easter eggs to unlock an episode based on the 1.5 frames that reveal an Asian escort in the motel room.

To avoid paying royalties you could just change everybody's name like they did with Tesla in the 1940's animated Superman serial.

https://www.amazon.com/Henry-Glenn-Forever-Tom-Neely/dp/1934620939

[albrecht]

I'm just glad that RCH interrupted with a "in a tunnel" when Neal was going into his explanation of the difference between gravity and pressure using an analogy of "going through a mountain."

And the parting comments of Neal Adams: "facts are like an ermine" (presumably, due to the way he was talking about it, the fur- not the live weasel) and a refusal to come on again and "talk about comics."