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President Donald J. Trump

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aldousburbank

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on April 11, 2018, 08:19:23 PM
Your mom's a whore and your country is a nation of feminized soyboys. ;D

But your wimmenz are hhhot!

albrecht

Quote from: PaulAtreides on April 12, 2018, 07:06:47 AM
Here's the deal.  Once Donny John federalizes the National Guard, the Guard is subject to the Act.  He has federalized them.
And like before when Democrats were ignoring Federal law and curtailing civil rights at Little Rock HS the President can use them to restore order. Also, the Insurrection Act (Marines were used in LA when the blacks were rioting and decades earlier various troops were used during black riots) and post 911 changes has changed Posse Comitatus Law, for good or bad.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-4986 :
"The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy, if it (1) so hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or (2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws. In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution. (2) PROCLAMATION TO DISPERSE. Section 334 of such title is amended by striking or those obstructing the enforcement of the laws after insurgents. (3) HEADING AMENDMENT.The heading"

Also we could use the broad semi-exception to  the 4th Amendment that Customs and Border Patrol has for 100 miles into the country to help round-up illegals, criminals, and terrorists.
https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/1084/~/legal-authority-for-the-border-patrol

Dr. MD MD

Styx is running for governor of Virginia. Vote no shirt! ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-Q8t7K6Sas


Juan

Virginia Vermont, what’s the difference.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Juan on April 12, 2018, 02:16:17 PM
Virginia Vermont, what’s the difference.

They both start with V.

analog kid

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on April 12, 2018, 12:31:11 PM
Styx is running for governor of Virginia. Vote no shirt! ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-Q8t7K6Sas

Is she running on an Anton LaVey platform?

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: analog kid on April 12, 2018, 02:30:02 PM
Is she running on an Anton LaVey platform?

No. Also, I know your standards are almost non-existent but that's a man.



analog kid

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on April 12, 2018, 02:42:17 PM
No. Also, I know your standards are almost non-existent but that's a man.

Bullshit.


analog kid

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on April 12, 2018, 03:06:54 PM
No, Hillary really lost the election. Accept it!

No idea what that's supposed to mean.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: analog kid on April 12, 2018, 03:08:42 PM
No idea what that's supposed to mean.

That's nothing new. Go back to sleep. The new world order is taking care of all your needs.

paladin1991

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on April 12, 2018, 03:13:51 PM
That's nothing new. Go back to sleep. The new world order is taking care of all your needs.

DisInfo Troll.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: paladin1991 on April 12, 2018, 03:35:22 PM
DisInfo Troll.

Braindead, whiny faggot. Why don't you go SJW someone else for awhile or put me on ignore if I offend you so? Stupid bitch! ::)





PaulAtreides

Quote from: albrecht on April 12, 2018, 10:47:55 AM
And like before when Democrats were ignoring Federal law and curtailing civil rights at Little Rock HS the President can use them to restore order. Also, the Insurrection Act (Marines were used in LA when the blacks were rioting and decades earlier various troops were used during black riots) and post 911 changes has changed Posse Comitatus Law, for good or bad.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-4986 :
"The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy, if it (1) so hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or (2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws. In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution. (2) PROCLAMATION TO DISPERSE. Section 334 of such title is amended by striking or those obstructing the enforcement of the laws after insurgents. (3) HEADING AMENDMENT.The heading"

Also we could use the broad semi-exception to  the 4th Amendment that Customs and Border Patrol has for 100 miles into the country to help round-up illegals, criminals, and terrorists.
https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/1084/~/legal-authority-for-the-border-patrol

Nope.  The Court would find these  "work arounds" to but mere  attempts  to circumvent the intent of the Act.  Judges don't like that.


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: PaulAtreides on April 12, 2018, 05:30:28 PM
Nope.  The Court would find these  "work arounds" to but mere  attempts  to circumvent the intent of the Act.  Judges don't like that.

Wouldn't it depend on the judge?

ItsOver

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on April 12, 2018, 03:13:51 PM
That's nothing new. Go back to sleep. The new world order is taking care of all your needs.
Heh, heh, heh.

Kidnostad3

 
Quote from: albrecht on April 12, 2018, 10:47:55 AM
And like before when Democrats were ignoring Federal law and curtailing civil rights at Little Rock HS the President can use them to restore order. Also, the Insurrection Act (Marines were used in LA when the blacks were rioting and decades earlier various troops were used during black riots) and post 911 changes has changed Posse Comitatus Law, for good or bad.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-4986 :
"The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy, if it (1) so hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or (2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws. In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution. (2) PROCLAMATION TO DISPERSE. Section 334 of such title is amended by striking or those obstructing the enforcement of the laws after insurgents. (3) HEADING AMENDMENT.The heading"

Also we could use the broad semi-exception to  the 4th Amendment that Customs and Border Patrol has for 100 miles into the country to help round-up illegals, criminals, and terrorists.
https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/1084/~/legal-authority-for-the-border-patrol

The "Big A" sure do know his shit don't he?

ItsOver

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on April 12, 2018, 05:31:38 PM
Wouldn't it depend on the judge?
Say, for example, a FISA judge?


albrecht

Quote from: PaulAtreides on April 12, 2018, 05:30:28 PM
Nope.  The Court would find these  "work arounds" to but mere  attempts  to circumvent the intent of the Act.  Judges don't like that.
The 9th might but the Court has already said it is legal and constitutional for 100 miles on the border:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1357#a_3
United States v. Montoya De Hernandez, 473 U.S. 531 (1985)
United States v. Martinez-Fuerte, 428 U.S. 543 (1976)

Wondering if you think it was illegal or unconstitutional when Federal agents, troops, and National Guard were used in places like Little Rock, Mississippi, etc over the decades when Democrats were rebelling or afterwards when Democrats were denying some people civil rights? Or in Watts or LA later? What about during the Civil War? Was the use of Federal military troops illegal?

ps: Trump should pull a Jackson and just tell certain Courts to pound sand on some of these political decisions, especially the 9th. "You go ahead and enforce it." As Jefferson, Democrat, said at some point it becomes ridiculous "absurdly sacrificing the ends to the means." If you don't have a border, you don't have a country.



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