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Started by The General, February 11, 2011, 01:33:34 AM

paladin1991


Quote from: Jackstar on December 21, 2017, 01:52:55 PM
That's Gatorade. Iced urine looks completely different.

source: I'm a scientist. taste tester.


fixed


paladin1991


Quote from: Spy on December 23, 2017, 01:41:12 PM
Nikki Haley: “I will be taking names of countries that disagree with Trump.”






you posted a picture of a loser. Why not post a picture of a winner?  Let's see who, oh who could you post a picture of....  Hmmmm.


https://youtu.be/Qsvy10D5rtc


paladin1991


Quote from: PaulAtreides on December 23, 2017, 03:34:07 PM
What, do you have gaydar under that funny hat?


It goes off every time you post.

paladin1991


Quote from: PaulAtreides on December 23, 2017, 01:55:33 PM

What she fails to comprehend is that no country (or individual, for that matter) is afraid of Trump.


Apparently you are.

albrecht

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on December 23, 2017, 12:49:52 PM
No one is supposed to point out the flaws of past Democrats - especialy Hillary Clinton and Berock Obama. 

However it is ok to lie about Bill Clinton, for example to give him credit for Newt Gingrich balancing the budget, and it is ok to lie about Reagan from time to time when need be.  We must also be regularly reminded that some of the Founding Fathers and some of the Framers of the Constitution owned slaves.  No fair bringing up the racism of the previous wave of ''progressives'', FDR, Woodrow Wilson, Margaret Sanger and the rest though


By the way, Hilary was supported overwhelming by those collecting handouts, criminals, illegal aliens, big city busybody Libs who think they should be running everyone else's lives, Occupy Wall St-type thugs, and the rest of the rabble, losers, and low information voters.  Real Americans - the people who should be deciding - voted overwhelmingly for Trump.  Thankfully 200+ years ago the afore mentioned slave holders had the foresight to include an Electoral College system in our governing documents.
Buried in the article (that mentioned that a HP author apologized for calling Rep. Tim Scott R-SC for being a "prop," a racist thing, after he learned that Scott helped write and push through the new tax plan) was the fact that South Carolina has had only 3 black Representatives ever- ALL OF THEM REPUBLICANS.

GravitySucks

I can’t stop laughing.

This guy has taken trolling to a whole nother level...

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/944666448185692166

Quote from: Spy on December 23, 2017, 01:41:12 PM
Nikki Haley: “I will be taking names of countries that disagree with Trump.”





Yes, to determine whether we should continue their foreign aid.  Somehow that part was left off, which makes the motivation, honesty, and integrity of whoever put that together suspect..

Please explain why we should continue funding governments that oppose us in the UN or oppose our policies in general.  I'd really like to know.  While you're at it, please explain what any of that has to do with Hitler, I'm not sure the Nazis even sent foreign aid to other countries.

Oh wait.  Any lie, smear, or attack against Trump or his administration de facto demonstrates integity and honesty.  Sorry, I forget the new rules sometimes.

GravitySucks

#winning

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/12/trump-doj-denies-los-angeles-federal-law-enforcement-cash/

If they hadn’t set up an $11 million legal fund to defend illegals they might not have asked for money for “law enforcement “

Gd5150

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on December 23, 2017, 05:59:42 PM
the motivation, honesty, and integrity of whoever put that together suspect..



Just your typical idiot lemming.

albrecht

Quote from: Spy on December 23, 2017, 01:41:12 PM
Nikki Haley: “I will be taking names of countries that disagree with Trump.”

"On Thursday, there will be a vote at the UN criticizing our choice. And yes, the US will be taking names."
But it is a matter of course for the Left and Democrats to make up quotes. I thought the line was hilarious and clearly some were worried. I would like that Congress cuts off much of the funds we send to other countries unless it is in specific US interest. And any amounts given are docked against against illegal aliens- or legal  immigrants they send us who have committed crimes. And considering Christmas, the "taking names," like Santa "having a list," was a nice jab at the Leftists who hate Christmas.  ;)

ItsOver

Quote from: albrecht on December 23, 2017, 06:34:24 PM
"On Thursday, there will be a vote at the UN criticizing our choice. And yes, the US will be taking names."
But it is a matter of course for the Left and Democrats to make up quotes. I thought the line was hilarious and clearly some were worried. I would like that Congress cuts off much of the funds we send to other countries unless it is in specific US interest. And any amounts given are docked against against illegal aliens- or legal  immigrants they send us who have committed crimes. And considering Christmas, the "taking names," like Santa "having a list," was a nice jab at the Leftists who hate Christmas.  ;)
I'd be down with some lumps of coal in certain countries' stockings.



Quote from: albrecht on December 23, 2017, 06:34:24 PM
"On Thursday, there will be a vote at the UN criticizing our choice. And yes, the US will be taking names."
But it is a matter of course for the Left and Democrats to make up quotes. I thought the line was hilarious and clearly some were worried. I would like that Congress cuts off much of the funds we send to other countries unless it is in specific US interest. And any amounts given are docked against against illegal aliens- or legal  immigrants they send us who have committed crimes. And considering Christmas, the "taking names," like Santa "having a list," was a nice jab at the Leftists who hate Christmas.  ;)

Going back to at least the Cold War, these third world kleptocracies knew they could side with the Soviet Union in forums like the UN, stay in Moscow's good graces, and there would be no downside in their relationship with us.  Including a continuation of foreign aide and the rest of the goodies we and other western countries provide.  And by doing so they could also pander to certain groups inside and outside their countries.

Everyone knew most of that aid money wasn't going to go to build the schools, hospitals, roads, etc, it was earmarked for, but would end up in the Swiss bank accounts of the top gov officials and the owners of the construction companies hired to build them.  We were paying them in order to keep them out of the Soviet orbit, not withstanding their UN votes.

The Cold War is long over.  The only countries whose opinions matter on where our embassy in Israel is located are Israel's and ours.  The decision is not up for discussion or a vote.  If any of these places want to insert themselves into our business and hold a vote, go right ahead - but if anyone wants to vote against our decision on this, why shouldn't we tell them to piss off?   Regardless of how many images of Hitler people want to post.

albrecht

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on December 23, 2017, 10:56:19 PM
Going back to at least the Cold War, these third world kleptocracies knew they could side with the Soviet Union in forums like the UN, stay in Moscow's good graces, and there would be no downside in their relationship with us.  Including a continuation of foreign aide and the rest of the goodies we and other western countries provide.  And by doing so they could also pander to certain groups inside and outside their countries.

Everyone knew most of that aid money wasn't going to go to build the schools, hospitals, roads, etc, it was earmarked for, but would end up in the Swiss bank accounts of the top gov officials and the owners of the construction companies hired to build them.  We were paying them in order to keep them out of the Soviet orbit, not withstanding their UN votes.

The Cold War is long over.  The only countries whose opinions matter on where our embassy in Israel is located are Israel's and ours.  The decision is not up for discussion or a vote.  If any of these places want to insert themselves into our business and hold a vote, go right ahead - but if anyone wants to vote against our decision on this, why shouldn't we tell them to piss off?   Regardless of how many images of Hitler people want to post.
Should be obvious. There always is DOS, CIA, and military version of "how best" to do things internationally. And, sometimes, they coincide, other times, no dice. Now, if one wants to get really conspiratorial, one could ask about USAID, and other, budgets, and the performance. Venezuela, for one, comes to mind? How soon can we get back in, do we WANT to,  and how does it effect domestic production and the current OPEC politics (which is interestingly fracturing?)


paladin1991

Quote from: PaulAtreides on December 23, 2017, 08:14:58 PM
You wish, soldier boy.

I  am a salty soldier, as you well know.  Savor the Flavor, Counselor.

PaulAtreides

Quote from: paladin1991 on December 24, 2017, 03:07:27 AM
I  am a salty soldier, as you well know.  Savor the Flavor, Counselor.

No, you're a saltine, otherwise known as a cracker.

Quote from: Swishypants on December 21, 2017, 04:47:29 PM
A study based upon data from the OBAMA years dumb fuck! Trump STILL hasn't been in office quite one year. BOOM!

No, no, no, you must be wrong.  Didn't you read the part about the survey being ''independent''?

He didn't mention independent of what or who, or the difference between surveys that are independent and those that aren't, or why surveys that are said to be ''independent'' are assumed to have no bias, but dammit it's independent.

Swishypants

Quote from: paladin1991 on December 24, 2017, 03:07:27 AM
I  am a salty soldier, as you well know.  Savor the Flavor, Counselor.

Don't you mean, Marine! ;)

albrecht

Not that anyone would consider it a legitimate"news" organization this article on HuffPost is remarkable for the representation of how politics in "news"  and editorializing is done. And the feedback loop and self-referential relationship between Democratic Party  "news" organizations (HP using a CNN poll, for example.). The spin in this case is that they admit, finally, the tax cut is good and helps average Americans but because it was under Trump nobody believes it! Even though the "news" was claiming for weeks how bad the tax cut was and how it would hurt average people.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-falsehoods-tax-cuts_us_5a3d72a1e4b06d1621b44a8c

"Having passed tax cuts that provide modest help to most Americans, Trump and GOP leaders are finding that most Americans just don’t believe it."


Yorkshire pud

Quote from: albrecht on December 24, 2017, 12:13:07 PM
Not that anyone would consider it a legitimate"news" organization this article on HuffPost is remarkable for the representation of how politics in "news"  and editorializing is done. And the feedback loop and self-referential relationship between Democratic Party  "news" organizations (HP using a CNN poll, for example.). The spin in this case is that they admit, finally, the tax cut is good and helps average Americans but because it was under Trump nobody believes it! Even though the "news" was claiming for weeks how bad the tax cut was and how it would hurt average people.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-falsehoods-tax-cuts_us_5a3d72a1e4b06d1621b44a8c

"Having passed tax cuts that provide modest help to most Americans, Trump and GOP leaders are finding that most Americans just don’t believe it."


Such a pity you couldn't find room to quote more of the piece. Let me help please:


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In reality â€" at least until the individual tax cuts expire at the end of 2025 â€" the vast majority of families will benefit from the cuts, although not necessarily that much for the typical middle-income family. While the overall benefits skew toward the wealthy because of the dramatic 40-percent reduction in the corporate income tax rate, some 80 percent of taxpayers will see a tax reduction next year, according to the non-partisan Tax Policy Center, while 5 percent will get a tax increase and the remainder will see little difference.


That disconnect is not surprising to Neil Newhouse, a prominent Republican pollster. “The data you’re seeing is measuring voter reaction to the Trump-GOP tax plan, and neither of those brands is scoring particularly well right now,” Newhouse said. “Voters are responding less to what’s actually in the tax plan and more to who’s taking credit for it.”



Trump ― as he has done regularly whenever confronted with news he does not like ― blamed the media for the plan’s unpopularity. “The Massive Tax Cuts, which the Fake News Media is desperate to write badly about so as to please their Democrat bosses, will soon be kicking in and will speak for themselves,” the president tweeted on Thursday. “Companies are already making big payments to workers. Dems want to raise taxes, hate these big Cuts!”
Many Republicans agree with Trump that the news media have emphasized how much the tax plan will benefit the wealthy â€" including Trump himself â€" but failed to point out that the typical middle-class family would also benefit by about $78 per month.
“Republicans are correct to assume that the bill will become more popular when people see it in their paychecks,” said Rory Cooper, once a top aide to former Republican House Majority Leader Eric Cantor.
But Cooper and others acknowledge that some of the public’s skepticism is based on Trump’s apparent inability or unwillingness to communicate truthfully â€" a trait that has extended to the tax cut bill as well.
On Wednesday, for instance, on a day that Trump might have simply stated the facts about the bill’s final passage and the benefits it contained, he instead decided to embellish, so that the first three statements he made about the bill were all untrue.
Trump claimed that tax legislation “really hasn’t been done” before â€" which was false.

He then claimed that the bill was “the largest tax cut in the history of our country” â€" which was also false.

And then he claimed that the tax cuts for individuals totaled $3.2 trillion â€" which is not remotely close to true. The bill cuts taxes in all by about $1.8 trillion over 10 years, of which $1.2 trillion goes to individuals and households.

“Completely unnecessary,” said Republican political consultant Rick Tyler about Trump’s string of falsehoods. “He thinks that just because he says something, people will believe it. He probably believes it. Because he exhibits all the symptoms of a pathological liar.”
Tyler, like most Republicans, supports the tax cuts. He argues that the wealthy pay most of the federal taxes that are collected, so it’s not unreasonable to see them benefit the most from a tax cut.
“I think the administration and the Republicans made a communications error by saying it’s going to be a huge break for the middle class,” Tyler said, adding that families will be able to make their own decision about the law once they start seeing changes in their paychecks.
But Republicans counting on the tax cuts to give them a big political boost come next Election Day may be in for a disappointment.
President George W. Bush’s 2001 tax cuts were larger than the ones just passed, and even included $600 “rebate” checks mailed to taxpayers. Yet just two years later, only 19 percent of Americans believed their taxes had gone down, while 32 percent believed their taxes had risen.
President Barack Obama and a Democratic Congress passed a payroll tax cut in 2010 that saved the typical family $1,000 through reduced payroll deductions. Voters again did not seem to notice it, and believed their taxes had gone up.


You're welcome. :)

GravitySucks

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 24, 2017, 04:46:31 PM

Such a pity you couldn't find room to quote more of the piece. Let me help please:



You're welcome. :)

Totally unbiased- until you realize the 2010 tax cuts signed by Obama and passed by the Democrats was not a tax cut at all... it was simply an extension of the Bush tax cuts that were due to expire.

You’re welcome.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: GravitySucks on December 24, 2017, 04:56:04 PM
Totally unbiased- until you realize the 2010 tax cuts signed by Obama and passed by the Democrats was not a tax cut at all... it was simply an extension of the Bush tax cuts that were due to expire.

You’re welcome.

Pud only knows what he wants to know and he didn’t want to know that. 

Quote from: GravitySucks on December 24, 2017, 04:56:04 PM
Totally unbiased- until you realize the 2010 tax cuts signed by Obama and passed by the Democrats was not a tax cut at all... it was simply an extension of the Bush tax cuts that were due to expire.

You’re welcome.

That was an independent article, dammit

GravitySucks

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on December 24, 2017, 05:13:09 PM
That was an independent article, dammit

Then don’t tell him that it was only a temporary extension of the Bush tax cuts and Obama let them expire in his second term.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on December 24, 2017, 05:13:09 PM
That was an independent article, dammit




Just like Breitbart and Fox. No wait.




I don't care much for HP, but if something is going to be used as an appeal to authority, it's only right that the whole is taken in context, including that he's a pathological liar.


Okay, be honest here, if you were in a position to do so, knowing what you do about Trump and his immediate family, who would employ him and trust him with their company, its finances (down to petty cash), its reputation and future standing?


If you say you would, you're overlooking his many bankruptcies, his scams, his cheating (in business), his terrible reputation with almost anyone who has done business with him, and of course his inability to be trusted to keep his hands to himself with your other half, your female employees and pretty much anyone he fancies.

edit:
Oh you could also throw in the mix that he's so incredibly immature, narcissistic, thin skinned and dense with pretty much any topic, the only position you might give him is looking in a mirror all day. Its unlikely anyone would want or be capable of working with him before they either batted him with a base ball bat, resigned, or both.

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