President Donald J. Trump

[Yorkshire pud]

You post info listing the US at the same level as Cuba and you continue to confirm your stupidity. Bravo!

Did you actually open the link dufass? The USA has been consistently in the lower ranks of health provision/highest cost for decades. Why are you surprised, because you're 'murican and you think its the best because you think so? Jeeze, are you in for a wake up.

Yes we know, Michael Moore went there and said it was the best in the world. Just like Sean Penn telling us how great Venezuela was. Just like the left telling us how great Soviet Union was in the 80s, before Reagan forced their collapse.

Nothing to do with Micheal Moore or Sean fucking Penn..Its an assessment that's conducted by a world wide independent survey. You're a deluded fucking idiot.
As I said, show the real figures if you don't accept what I posted.. Go for it. Please, feel free.

[Gd5150]

The Illuminati thank you for your Christmas present to them.  By 2027 the top 1% wealthiest will reap 83% of the tax cut benefits

"The Republican tax bill got worse: now the top 1% gets 83% of the gains
In its last year, the bill raises taxes on more than 53 percent of Americans." - Vox

Well I guess we were wrong after all. Who’s got the good sense to question a notable and objective group like the: “urban-bookings tax policy center for microsimulation and modeling”


Stop it please I just spit out my coffee. Between you and Pud this place is dangerous with a cup of morning joe. (Note to self: no morning ho or morning pedo with morning joe)

[albrecht]

Did you actually open the link dufass? The USA has been consistently in the lower ranks of health provision/highest cost for decades. Why are you surprised, because you're 'murican and you think its the best because you think so? Jeeze, are you in for a wake up.

I would be curious about how your "study" breaks down between ethnic, regional, and racial groups and also if it included the millions of illegals, and legal, immigrations that waltz across the open border who often, due to their country, poverty, or education, have diseases or unhealthy lifestyles. There are certainly problems in the US healthcare system but, like so many other things, so many illegals, and legal, immigrants don't help the situation and make it much worse.

[Yorkshire pud]

Well I guess we were wrong after all. Who’s got the good sense to question a notable and objective group like the: “urban-bookings tax policy center for microsimulation and modeling”


Stop it please I just spit out my coffee. Between you and Pud this place is dangerous with a cup of morning joe. (Note to self: no morning ho or morning pedo with morning joe)

Again, show your own findings.... Strangely you never do. I wonder why that might be?

[TigerLily]

I've pretty much had nothing but contempt and hatred toward them my whole life though i must confess buying a bunch of their wine when I saw it on sale. It was delicious. Truly some of the best wine I've had. I would serve it at a party celebrating their demise. It's that good! 

But your boyfriend, Trumpet, just gave them a yuuuuge tax credit    and Soros too! 

[Yorkshire pud]

I would be curious about how your "study" breaks down between ethnic, regional, and racial groups and also if it included the millions of illegals, and legal, immigrations that waltz across the open border who often, due to their country, poverty, or education, have diseases or unhealthy lifestyles. There are certainly problems in the US healthcare system but, like so many other things, so many illegals, and legal, immigrants don't help the situation and make it much worse.

Isn't my study. Its the Commonwealth fund. And breaking it down to your liking isn't what its remit is. It bases the rankings on GDP spent on health in relation to provision and efficiency (Bang for your buck) prognosis after diagnosis, and infant mortality, to name a few. All countries are rated in identical ways.

[albrecht]

Isn't my study. Its the Commonwealth fund. And breaking it down to your liking isn't what its remit is. It bases the rankings on GDP spent on health in relation to provision and efficiency (Bang for your buck) prognosis after diagnosis, and infant mortality, to name a few. All countries are rated in identical ways.

All countries, like people, are not the same. The USA has a very diverse population and has an open border with a near 3rd world narco-state. This is far different scenario than other countries. I would suspect if studies are analyzed one will see impacts in countries like Sweden or France now that they have decided to take in 100ks of "refugees." Importing uneducated, often diseased, and violent people is going to impact the healthcare system as it does other systems, like penal system, education system, tourism, etc.
But, back to the real point, if the US and our politics, healthcare, gun rights, etc so bad why did you flee here? Why not return home to paradise? Why would anyone live somewhere they don't like? At least for now we have freedom to travel or even leave (Obama's capital controls withstanding.) (Take back the illegals and DREAMers with you.)

[Yorkshire pud]

. Between you and Pud this place is dangerous

What you found about the USA's world health rankings? Anything yet? No? 

[Dr. MD MD]

But your boyfriend,  Trumpet, just gave them a yuuuuge tax credit    and Soros too! 

Pud keeps telling me that Swishypants is my boyfriend. I wish you guys would make up your minds.  :

[TigerLily]

Well I guess we were wrong after all. Who’s got the good sense to question a notable and objective group like the: “urban-bookings tax policy center for microsimulation and modeling”


Stop it please I just spit out my coffee. Between you and Pud this place is dangerous with a cup of morning joe. (Note to self: no morning ho or morning pedo with morning joe)

Your ignorance knows no bounds. There are plenty of other charts from other sources showing the same numbers. Just thought you would think this one was purty



"The Tax Policy Center (TPC), officially the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center,] is a nonpartisan]think tank ]Washington D.C.] A joint venture of the]Urban Institute and the]Brookings Institution it aims to provide independent analyses of current and longer-term tax issues, and to communicate its analyses to the public and to policymakers. TPC combines national specialists in tax, expenditure, budget policy, and microsimulation modeling to concentrate on five overarching areas of tax policy: fair, simple and efficient taxation, social policy in the tax code, business tax reform, long-term implications of tax and budget choices, and state tax issues.

In 2002, tax specialists who had served in the Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and Bill Clinton administrations established the Tax Policy Center to provide analysis of tax issues. The following year TPC developed a tax simulation model to analyze the federal income tax and proposals to change it. That model has evolved to incorporate new and additional data, changes in federal tax law, and other aspects of the tax system and the economy."


Just sound out the big words and get a Dictionary for Dummies app

[Yorkshire pud]

All countries, like people, are not the same. The USA has a very diverse population and has an open border with a near 3rd world narco-state. This is far different scenario than other countries.

You think Europe doesn't have immigration? The USA is quite a way down the list.. The thing is, you don't want to believe what I posted. But you have nothing to support your thinking.

I would suspect if studies are analyzed one will see impacts in countries like Sweden or France now that they have decided to take in 100ks of "refugees." Importing uneducated, often diseased, and violent people is going to impact the healthcare system as it does other systems, like penal system, education system, tourism, etc.
But, back to the real point, if the US and our politics, healthcare, gun rights, etc so bad why did you flee here? Why not return home to paradise? Why would anyone live somewhere they don't like? At least for know we have freedom to travel or even leave (Obama's capital controls withstanding.)

I didn't flee you fool. I married an American woman and women are funny creatures and she insisted we live together as we're married. I never said I liked it all here or disliked it. I have quite a few friends and I can travel where I like freely whether here or the UK. I guess I have the advantage in I've actually got a passport and travelled to other countries and don't just believe the indoctrination of being told from childhood the country I was born in is better than every other in the world in every respect.

[albrecht]

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/americas-heroin-epidemic/u-s-life-expectancy-falls-second-straight-year-drug-overdoses-n831676

[Yorkshire pud]

Pud keeps telling me that Swishypants is my boyfriend. I wish you guys would make up your minds.  :

I wasn't going to say this, but you're a whore and you change boyfriends on a daily basis.

[Dr. MD MD]

I wasn't going to say this, but you're a whore and you change boyfriends on a daily basis.

Your dad said he'd never tell. 

[Yorkshire pud]

Your ignorance knows no bounds. There are plenty of other charts from other sourcesshowing the same numbers. Just thought you would think this one was purty
The Tax Policy Center (TPC), officially the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center,] is a nonpartisan think tank Washington D.C. A joint venture of the Urban Institute and the Brookings Institution, it aims to provide independent analyses of current and longer-term tax issues, and to communicate its analyses to the public and to policymakers. TPC combines national specialists in tax, expenditure, budget policy, and microsimulation modeling to concentrate on five overarching areas of tax policy: fair, simple and efficient taxation, social policy in the tax code, business tax reform, long-term implications of tax and budget choices, and state tax issues.
In 2002, tax specialists who had served in the Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and Bill Clinton administrations established the Tax Policy Center to provide analysis of tax issues. The following year TPC developed a tax simulation model to analyze the federal income tax and proposals to change it. That model has evolved to incorporate new and additional data, changes in federal tax law, and other aspects of the tax system and the economy.

Trump even lied about the announcement..He said it was the highest tax cut ever...It wasn't. Reagans was bigger as was JFK's. Trump just lies to make himself feel good. Aided and abetted by his obsequious cabinet and GOP..."Dear Leader"...

[Yorkshire pud]

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/americas-heroin-epidemic/u-s-life-expectancy-falls-second-straight-year-drug-overdoses-n831676

Indeed...The main suppliers being the same pharmaceutical companies that fund the GOP, and ensure the USA spends more on all drugs than it needs to. Throw in the commercials on telly promoting drugs (Who pays for that?).

[albrecht]

You think Europe doesn't have immigration? The USA is quite a way down the list.. The thing is, you don't want to believe what I posted. But you have nothing to support your thinking.



I didn't flee you fool. I married an American woman and women are funny creatures and she insisted we live together as we're married. I never said I liked it all here or disliked it. I have quite a few friends and I can travel where I like freely whether here or the UK. I guess I have the advantage in I've actually got a passport and travelled to other countries and don't just believe the indoctrination of being told from childhood the country I was born in is better than every other in the world in every respect.

A passport? Oh so special. Gee nobody has traveled or lived/worked in a foreign country before. Of course Europe has immigration and look it the problems it is causing. You guys even voted to leave the EU in large part due to it. Why do you object to the US enforcing their laws or controlling their borders? When I go to the UK I get stamped "no recourse to public funds" yet you insist that we give free healthcare, schooling, SNAP, etc to illegals and their children?
I never said you shouldn't live with your wife but why not take her over to paradise? We live in a global economy and work can be found everyone if you have the right skills and ambition and UK much easier than some other countries  because there isn't as much (there is in some places, social stratum) language difference or barrier.

[albrecht]

Indeed...The main suppliers being the same pharmaceutical companies that fund the GOP, and ensure the USA spends more on all drugs than it needs to. Throw in the commercials on telly promoting drugs (Who pays for that?).

The direct marketing of prescriptions companies (often European based) is bad, as is the idea that a pill is the solution to everything. And us by our policies subsidizing the world by paying so much more for them. And some of the disclaimers are amazing. I think I accept my headache rather than risk the kidney failure, death, cancer, etc etc the lawyers tell them they must warn about- even if chance is very, very low.
Also all the illegal stuff mfg in China coming over. It is crazy and, if one wanted to be conspiratorial, could say it is a plot. Kids, don't do drugs especially these days when you don't know what you are getting, how strong it is, etc.

[Yorkshire pud]

A passport? Oh so special. Gee nobody has traveled or lived/worked in a foreign country before. Of course Europe has immigration and look it the problems it is causing. You guys even voted to leave the EU in large part due to it. Why do you object to the US enforcing their laws or controlling their borders? When I go to the UK I get stamped "no recourse to public funds" yet you insist that we give free healthcare, schooling, SNAP, etc to illegals and their children?

Where did I say that? You always do this...You misquote me..And every time I ask you to show me where I said that, you can't.

I never said you shouldn't live with your wife but why not take her over to paradise? We live in a global economy and work can be found everyone if you have the right skills and ambition and UK much easier than some other countries  because there isn't as much (there is in some places, social stratum) language difference or barrier.

We live in California because that is where she works, and if she left her employer now, she'd lose her pension.. Is that alright with you that she decided that would be a bad thing?

[TigerLily]

Trump even lied about the announcement..He said it was the highest tax cut ever...It wasn't. Reagans was bigger as was JFK's. Trump just lies to make himself feel good. Aided and abetted by his obsequious cabinet and GOP..."Dear Leader"...

We know his love affair with hyperbole. Here's some for him: Most corrupt. Biggest liar.  Biggest narcissist. Most delusional

[Dr. MD MD]

We live in California because that is where she works, and if she left her employer now, she'd lose her pension.. Is that alright with you that she decided that would be a bad thing?

No. Now I'd like you to both leave my country, please.

[Yorkshire pud]

No. Now I'd like you to both leave my country, please.

It isn't your country...Its Trump's. Using his military. He said so.

[Gd5150]

No. Now I'd like you to both leave my country, please.

They live in Mexico? Must be because Mexico is also ranked higher than the US on Pudo’s healthcare list. 😄

[albrecht]

We live in California because that is where she works, and if she left her employer now, she'd lose her pension.. Is that alright with you that she decided that would be a bad thing?

Nice. True pensions are rare these days even in government jobs. Though also they can encourage a person to stay at one job/business and not realize their real price on the market. I understand the incentive but still don't like it and people should always be looking for other opportunities even if it is just for negotiating with current employer,  sort of like when you see ads for cable or phone company with offers- only to new subscribers. I wonder if customer satisfaction and loyalty would be better if they said to existing customers- "hey we are going to cut your bill."

Goodness, doing Christmas cards and listening to Doc Wallet for laughs, speaking of health. He says cats can easily live into their 30s if on a gluten-free diet and take his supplements and just advised someone on their llama! Also someone's a-fib is "not a heart problem" but a "back problem."

[GravitySucks]

Indeed...The main suppliers being the same pharmaceutical companies that fund the GOP, and ensure the USA spends more on all drugs than it needs to. Throw in the commercials on telly promoting drugs (Who pays for that?).

If you are claiming that the drug companies and other corporate lobbyists only fund the GOP you are either foolishly mistaken or an outright liar.

As far as your rankings of the US healthcare, take GDP out of the equation and tell me where we rank.

[Yorkshire pud]

They live in Mexico? Must be because Mexico is also ranked higher than the US on Pudo’s healthcare list. 😄

You got those world ranking healthcare figures yet?

[Gd5150]

Your ignorance knows no bounds. There are plenty of other charts from other sources showing the same numbers. Just thought you would think this one was purty

Thanks for the purty charts and graphs! And I disagree, my ignorance knows plenty of bounds. 😎


Leftwing lemmings cutting and pasting charts from leftwing websites that are put together by leftwingers who cherry pick data doesn’t impress. It just lives up to the cliche.

“There are three types of lies -- lies, damn lies, and statistics. - Benjamin Disraeli”

[ItsOver]

...Goodness, doing Christmas cards and listening to Doc Wallet for laughs, speaking of health. He says cats can easily live into their 30s if on a gluten-free diet and take his supplements and just advised someone on their llama! Also someone's a-fib is "not a heart problem" but a "back problem."

LOL. 





"Tune into C2C for the latest on llamas!"

[Yorkshire pud]

If you are claiming that the drug companies and other corporate lobbyists only fund the GOP you are either foolishly mistaken or an outright liar.

As far as your rankings of the US healthcare, take GDP out of the equation and tell me where we rank.

I'm not claiming only the GOP get drug money, but they're certainly in no rush to change things with how much drugs cost. Trump might have campaigned on it, but it won't happen or only on loss leaders and the rest will raise to compensate.



The GDP is fundamental. How can it be left out? If money isn't in the equation how can it be judged on an efficiency/value for money basis? The USA spends far more on drugs than any other country, across the board. 

[Yorkshire pud]

Thanks for the purty charts and graphs! And I disagree, my ignorance knows plenty of bounds. 😎


Leftwing lemmings cutting and pasting charts from leftwing websites that are put together by leftwingers who cherry pick data doesn’t impress. It just lives up to the cliche.

Again...Post your own unbiased charts and stats.. Why haven't you?