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Re: US Navy Japanese container ship collision
« Reply #91 on: November 07, 2017, 04:31:52 PM »


Re: US Navy Japanese container ship collision
« Reply #93 on: January 02, 2018, 06:26:00 PM »
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2017/12/30/exclusive-how-peter-mims-spent-a-week-hiding-in-a-warships-engine-room/
"Before he disappeared from the cruiser Shiloh on June 8, Mims was known for making crazy-yet-sincere claims. Shipmates recalled him saying he had been to space, and that he could shoot fireballs out of his hands.      After he went missing and sparked a massive, 5,500 square-mile man overboard search across the Philippine Sea, the ship’s crew continued a hopeful and fruitless search for him inside the claustrophobic catacombs of the ship’s engineering spaces."

Re: US Navy Japanese container ship collision
« Reply #94 on: January 02, 2018, 06:30:00 PM »
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2017/12/30/exclusive-how-peter-mims-spent-a-week-hiding-in-a-warships-engine-room/
"Before he disappeared from the cruiser Shiloh on June 8, Mims was known for making crazy-yet-sincere claims. Shipmates recalled him saying he had been to space, and that he could shoot fireballs out of his hands.      After he went missing and sparked a massive, 5,500 square-mile man overboard search across the Philippine Sea, the ship’s crew continued a hopeful and fruitless search for him inside the claustrophobic catacombs of the ship’s engineering spaces."

I read that earlier - absolutely crazy stuff.  Let us hope that 2018 is a little better year for the US Navy.  They are still struggling with that  LCS mess -> https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/the-usas-new-littoral-combat-ships-updated-01343/

Re: US Navy Japanese container ship collision
« Reply #95 on: January 16, 2018, 01:41:42 PM »
https://www.defensenews.com/breaking-news/2018/01/16/us-navy-surface-boss-expected-to-step-down-under-pressure-in-latest-collision-fallout/
"Vice Adm. Thomas Rowden is expected to send a letter this week stepping down as the head of Naval Surface Force Pacific, according to sources who spoke to Defense News on condition of anonymity."

Re: US Navy Japanese container ship collision
« Reply #96 on: January 16, 2018, 04:39:44 PM »
Wow.
https://news.usni.org/2018/01/16/former-fitzgerald-mccain-cos-face-negligent-homicide-dereliction-duty-charges-fatal-collisions
Former Fitzgerald, McCain COs Face Negligent Homicide, Dereliction of Duty Charges Over Fatal Collisions

Re: US Navy Japanese container ship collision
« Reply #97 on: January 16, 2018, 05:53:13 PM »
This is very disturbing.  The US Navy is known for being the most secretive of all the services...but this takes the cake. 

Re: US Navy Japanese container ship collision
« Reply #98 on: January 16, 2018, 06:08:29 PM »
This is very disturbing.  The US Navy is known for being the most secretive of all the services...but this takes the cake.
It is and bizarre.
Troubling behavior in allied Navy also recently:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-british-sailors-fired-20171028-story.html

Re: US Navy Japanese container ship collision
« Reply #99 on: January 16, 2018, 06:16:29 PM »
How (or why) is it that we are forced to research this for ourselves?  Is there anyone or group conducting a study of this? (Of both US and Royal Navies?)  I have always wondered what eventually happened to the port and bases at Subic Bay after 2001.  I used to follow USN carrier group movements but found the sources unreliable.

Re: US Navy Japanese container ship collision
« Reply #100 on: January 16, 2018, 08:41:48 PM »
How (or why) is it that we are forced to research this for ourselves?  Is there anyone or group conducting a study of this? (Of both US and Royal Navies?)  I have always wondered what eventually happened to the port and bases at Subic Bay after 2001.  I used to follow USN carrier group movements but found the sources unreliable.

What “research” are we being forced to do?   What does Subic Bay have to do with anything?

Re: US Navy Japanese container ship collision
« Reply #101 on: January 16, 2018, 08:43:23 PM »
Seems to me like the Navy has been really open about the whole mess.

Re: US Navy Japanese container ship collision
« Reply #102 on: January 16, 2018, 11:22:46 PM »
Wow.
https://news.usni.org/2018/01/16/former-fitzgerald-mccain-cos-face-negligent-homicide-dereliction-duty-charges-fatal-collisions
Former Fitzgerald, McCain COs Face Negligent Homicide, Dereliction of Duty Charges Over Fatal Collisions

All deaths are investigated by a formal board of investigation in compliance with the provisions of UCMJ Article 32 and the Manual of the Navy Judge Advocate General.   The UCMJ  defines criminal homicide in order of severity as murder,  manslaughter or negligent homicide. A report of the board of investigation containing the detailed findings and a charge sheet (as appropriate) would have been submitted to the Convening Authority for staff review and a decision by the CA to dispose of any charges by referral to a court martial, non judicial punishment or by dismissing the charges.  in this case the charges will definitely be referred to a general court martial for adjudication.  Of course the defendant is considered innocent until he is convicted of those charges or a lesser included offense.  This is standard procedure and the board’s findings and recommendations are not at all surprising given known circumstances.