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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 05:30:44 PM »
Your fucking plan is fucking brilliant! Why the fuck did we not fucking think of that before? Fucking A, you're a fucking genius!

Also: keep feeding that fucking troll, I dare you.

Not only is it brilliant, it works.  It's what most people do.  It's what most people tell their kids to do.  Even most Libs

Unfortunately the Left will always be with us.  They encourage poverty by telling poor black kids everyone hates them and they have no chance in life.  By telling immigrants to hold to their customs and language and not assimulate.  By luring the lazy with handout programs that will entrap them and keep them impoverished.  By luring poor immigrants across our southern border to do our low level jobs, and teaching them to be resentful instead of how to advance once they get here.  By running our big cities - and everything else they control - into the ground.

The Ds have no interest in helping the poor escape poverty, or help the middle class advance.  Which showed very clearly in the recent election.  The Ds are very aware of this - it's one of their top strategies to seize and keep power.  Now that it's been exposed, at least for the middle class, they still won't address it and change their agenda.  If their inner city supporters ever figure it out, they're toast.

People doing well don't need the Libs and the Left.  They don't need the Democrat Party.  And the Ds know it.  It's why they act the way they do, why they make the outrageous comments they make. 

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Politics / Re: Talk About Your Pucker Factor
« on: January 13, 2018, 05:18:47 PM »
... Turns out she's from there and her parents were completely freaked out and she's still scared

So I didn't hit on her at all...

So you're saying there's a silver lining even in a mushroom cloud?

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 12:03:05 PM »
... But the rich/poor divide is as large as it ever was, since the 80s.

I would council ''the poor'' to go to school and stay there; obtain job skills - either on the job or taking classes; and get up, go to work every day, and do the best job they can.  I guarantee they won't be poor long.  If they won't do that, they can piss off.

And no, I'm not talking about those who have disabilities to the point the above is not feasible.  But they are a very low percentage.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 11:57:47 AM »
Thatcher was many things, but socialist wasn't one of them..Try again...

No, she wasn't, but your system was and is. 

She inherited a Socialist system that was off the rails and heading over a cliff.  She saved your sorry asses.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 11:55:06 AM »
And nowhere in there did you point out a single thing he did to improve the economy, which is what my question was

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 11:54:33 AM »

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

Dated 2012

https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/Documents/20120502_EconomicGrowth.pdf

2016

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/current-us-economic-recovery-may-end-up-as-longest-ever-2016-07-18

Like I said, a rebound is expected after a dip.  It's how an economy works.  Regardless of who the president is.

After a disaster like that, after a period of consolidation, a strong, long term recovery is the expectation.  Regardless of who the president is.

The Obama ''recovery'' drastically underperformed.  That the Fake News Media lauds him because there was a recovery at all, no matter how anemic, isn't a surprise.  Had a Republican been in office, and the recovery been that lousy, they would have roasted him.

Obama set a record as the first president in modern times to never have even one year of growth over 3%.  The ecomony should have bounced back much much stronger.

But I get it.  Obama good.  Trump baaaaad

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 11:48:31 AM »
Trump isn't remotely concerned about military power, blah, blah, blah...

Yes, we should take your insightful comments about Trump very seriously, their accuracy is unchallenged

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 11:46:29 AM »
And tell the audience, what happened after that little miracle. Extra points if you can incorporate 'economic bubble', 'Yuppy', and 'Over leveraged'. It doesn't work you idiot unless you're already rich. Ask the poor sods who lost their jobs through no fault of their own what they thought of it. My ex brother in law who went on to get a PhD in economics sucked in his cheeks with embarrassment when he saw the town he grew up in have an economic collapse and skilled workers went to work on monday morning to be told it was all over. And he was a devout Thatcher disciple.

I really can't comment on your Socialist utopia, other than suggest they dump socialism.

As far as the dotcom bubble burst, to a certain extent it was a normal part of the boom and bust cycle.  Exacerbated as usual by government, in this case the Fed.  The economy got overheated due to excess money in the system, and excess greed during a period when nearly everyone was making a lot of money. 

Tiny startup companies got investor money even though their ideas were bad and they were losing money.  People chose to work for them.  Investors bought their stocks when they had their IPOs.  Other companies sold them goods on credit.  Bill Clinton's Fed allowed too much money to be created.  And that was the result.


Can you at least step back and see the larger picture, say the 25 years from 1982 to 2007?  That didn't work for you? 


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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 11:32:43 AM »


Obama inherited one of the biggest economic slumps in modern history-it was in all the papers, loads of firms closed, people lost their homes and jobs.. (Did you miss that bit?). Trump inherited a recovery and is calling it his own, So therefore Trump has very little to do with the continuing upward trend...  Dispense with the disingenuous shit.

Yep, he certainly did inherit a mess.

Then didn't do a thing to improve it.  No, he came to power interested in social issues, dividing the country as best he could, and weakening it in general when he got the opportunity.  He wasn't interested in the economy, other than to hambstring it when he could

If you can think of any positive steps he took to improve the economy, please let me know because I must have missed them

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 11:27:49 AM »
... Nope...Corporate tax cuts will benefit the execs and shareholders within. There is no such provable animal as trickle down economics.. If there is, please show me..

Golly, I'm shocked the Democrat Fake News Media would insist on such crap.  You know, the people who love ever bigger government and endless tax increases.  The people who hate Reagan and love Obama.  Why would they lie about the benefits of lower taxes?

You want evidence?  How about the economic revolution Reagan unleashed:  25 years of astonishing, record setting growth, the rise of the digital world, including high-tech, communications, bio-tech.  Do you really need to have that pointed out to you?   

You're going to seriously go along with the ''trickle down'' label, then claim it doesn't work?  Unbelievable.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 11:22:02 AM »
... No it isn't...It's been growing since 2009...

The US economy is extremely strong and resiliant.  More so than any economy in the past, or around the world.  It typically runs despite the goings on in Washington DC, despite the politicians, and despite the Fed, strangling regulations, excessive taxes, restrictive employment laws, and all the rest.

Regarding the economy, the government can really only do two things:  put up obstructions, or take them down.  Reagan took them down.  Much of what a president does to influence an economy involves confidence:  either the decision makers have confidence the president is pro-business, or they don't.  With Obama they didn't.  With Trump, they do.  It seems like a small thing, but it's extremely important.

Our economy would have rebounded from the 2008 meltdown regardless.  That the recovery was as anemic as it was was shocking. You can assign the blame for that on Obama:  his actions, his comments, his priorities, and how that affected the confidence the economy had in him.  With Trump, all that negitivity was replaced by the opposite

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 11:13:34 AM »
... I asked this before, but you couldn't answer--Other than those holding shares and milionaires how does this benefit you?...

Nearly everyone in this country who has a decent job has a 401k plan.  Which mostly holds US stocks.

And plenty of people hold shares outside their retrirement accounts.

Besides all that, companies expand when the economy is growing and when they expect a certain level of return on additional investment.  That means more products and services, more competition, more good jobs, and yes - more tax revenue generated.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 11:00:49 AM »
Well Trump hasn't ever remotely criticised Putin for the previous and ongoing cyber attacks on not just US, but other Western allies' electoral and infrastructure systems, although all US security agencies and agencies from the UK, Holland, France, Germany and Italy have brought it to his attention. Or are they all making it up?  ::)

Russia is an important country due to it's size, it's military power, it's natural resources, etc.  Putin happens to be their leader. 

Let's go over some history of how our relationship with them was blown, including what led to Putin became leader in the first place, the abject failure of the Obama Administration in dealing with him, and Bill and Hilary's corrupt dealing with the Russians at the expense of our security.  Then maybe we can criticize Trump for not doing the same.

When the Soviet Union fell, Yeltsin became President of Russia.  They wanted to be freinds with us, although given the historical rivalry there were some suspicions to overcome.  There were also legitimate concerns within regarding the makeup of the governments of the newly created countries on their borders, and Russian citizens living there.

Bill Clinton began meddling in the elections of certain governments, siding with candidates that opposed the preferred candidates of the Russians.  We had no business doing that.  It led to the rise of Putin, who canpaigned against US meddling and won his own election.

Bush II did the same thing.  Clinton and Bush both treated the new Russian state shabbily when there was no need to do so.  We alienated them and pushed them away.  We did that. 

Obama inherited a badly blown opportunity, which he was only too happy execerbate - either through his desire to intentionally undermine the US anyway he could, or through abject incopetence.  Probably both.

Hilary Clinton sold 20% of our uranium supply to the Russians, in a deal that got Bill huge ''speaking fees''.  Obama and some other hack administration officials signed off as well.  I believe the FBI has opened a case to investigate, hopefully they will finally have the will to fully investigate at least one Clinton scandal.  I think looking into the phony ''foundation'' for a source of bribes on this and other activity would be a good start.

These are just some ofthe bigger pieces of corruption and incompetence.  There's more, but you get the idea.


Back to Trump.  Why shouldn't he at least try for a fresh start, or at least improve the relationship?  Seriously.  What good do you think it would do for Trump to start disparaging Putin?  What benefits do you think would come out of that?  We deal with every country depending on a lot of issues.  We don't interact with North Korea the same way we do China.  Or Russia the same way we do France.  Or Pakistan the same way we we Mexico. 

You don't like Trump when he calls people out, and you don't like him when he doesn't.  Go figure.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 10:43:16 AM »

Oh is that the same 'fake news' who preferred Trump by a huge margin but now don't?  ???

Yes

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 10:28:04 AM »
But you're fine that Trump is best buddies with Putin...

Evidence please

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 10:26:20 AM »
... No idea how he ever got the nomination in 2008...

The same way Dole, Bush II, and Romney did.  The Fake News media chose their preferred candidate to run against, and convinced the Republican Primary voters he was ''the only one who can win''.

They did the same with Trump, by the way, with a couple of wrinkles.  1) there was a huge field, so it was easy for them to get away with only covering Trump, and due to the large field it was easy for him to then win primaries with 30% of the vote, and 2) there were some voters voting for Trump who wouldn't normally vote, or vote for the Rs.

But we still hear it now: ''Trump was the only one who could have beaten Hilary''.  As with McCain, et. al. from earlier election years, he was in reality probably the candidate least likely to win - but even he could beat her.

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Random Topics / Re: What a crazy year for baseball...
« on: January 13, 2018, 10:13:15 AM »
30 days until pitchers and catchers report!  8)

My question is whether Brue Maxwell will continue his protest during the flag ceremony regarding the interactions between police and black criminals now that he's been arrested and charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, and disorderly conduct.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 10:08:58 AM »
As issued by the Whitehouse...How do we know? Because its unlikely the doctor qualified if he couldn't even spell his own name....The Trump circus can't even falsify statements convincingly.



I'm going with ABC News, or some PR intern at the White House messed up the name, not the Dr.

Where were you when Obama was falsifying documents?  Documents that were intended to show he was qualified to hold his office, not some press release about a visit to the doctor

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 09:56:27 AM »
I'm sick of faggots whitewashing these scumbags like McCain. You want to discuss him? First know who he really is becuase I ain't buying the fairytale version. He was the deep state's point man for secret ISIS dealings, obviously...and that's just one of many reasons to wish death upon that fucker. How many Americans have died because of him? Do you care? He doesn't.  ::)

You voted for Obama.

I guess my question is whether you've matured politically, or whether you've merely swapped being under one version of the Fake News Media spell, only to fall under a different one.


Here's the thing about that part of the world - most of Africa, and from Turkey and the Middle East to Pakistan.  It's tribal.  It's not a political system the way we understand it.  Tribes and war lords switch alliances almost constantly - which they've been doing since the time humans organized themselves into groups.  The rank and file under the leaders are mostly illiterate, uneducated, and under the spell of ''religious'' leaders.  They do what they're told, and don't know any better.

Governments like Pakistan - all of them really - are leaders or representatives of tribes vying for power with in borders drawn fairly recently by the Western powers.  The dictator - like Assad - puts his tribal members in key positions, and hands out other roles to other tribes in an attempt to keep the peace - when he's not trying to exterminate them.

People like McCain don't understand this.  Most people don't, but it's especially impossible to convince big egos of anything.  So he goes into a situation he understands nothing about, and finds a group who that day have interests that appear to align with ours.  Some of us said at the time not to trust that group, but he was desperate to find an 'ally''.  Over time it became clear he had been wrong about them.

He's not ''the deep state's point man for secret ISIS dealings'', he's a self absorbed know-it-all with an overdeveloped ego, who sees himself as the military expert in the Senate.  Who got duped by an al-Qaeda splinter group.

Obama was the one doing what he could to help ISIS behind the scenes, not McCain.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 01:47:48 AM »
Yeah, but Hilary ...

You want people to simply forget about the smartest woman in history, and the most qualified person ever to run for president?

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Random Topics / Re: Google Adsense is finished on BellGab.
« on: January 13, 2018, 01:45:16 AM »
no.  where did you come up with that?

One of your posts once gave that indication.  I'm not going to look for it

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: January 13, 2018, 01:40:56 AM »
Joorch introduces his first half guest, Timothy Renner, talking about Bigfoot and his new book 'Bigfoot In Pennsylvania....Beyond The Seventh Gate'. Or, as Joorch surreally put it, 'Beyond The Seventh Cafe'.

-GNS

That's hilarious.  Not that it wouldn't have made just as much sense as the actual title.

I think this is the result of George and Tommy joking about the show during lunch, like when he blurts of ''Shroud of Urine'' every time he has a guest on to discuss the Shroud of Turin.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 13, 2018, 01:36:57 AM »

A bit like Baltimore then? Or maybe LA? Or DC?

Dang, Pud - sometimes I start to think you're starting to get it. 

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 12, 2018, 09:54:38 PM »
The encounter was from 2006, a year after he married Melania, but he paid off Daniels in 2016.

Melania is a trophy wife.  She would have married any rich guy.  She got what she wanted, which was money and a luxuriant lifestyle. 

Like that bimbo OJ murdered.  She chose to be with the rich and famous guy - the money, the parties, all that, regardless.  Oh well.

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Random Topics / Re: Google Adsense is finished on BellGab.
« on: January 12, 2018, 09:40:16 PM »
I'm glad he's dying.

Me too.  Still not the same as having Obama.

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Random Topics / Re: Google Adsense is finished on BellGab.
« on: January 12, 2018, 09:37:18 PM »
Nope. He would've been just the same, in the same way that there really wasn't much difference between Barry and W. Two faces of the same globalist coin.

Ok, I pointed out some very specific issues where Obama intentionally damaged the country, and GD150 added Obamacare to the list.  McCain simply would not have done any of that.  And you know it.

He would have done some other bullshit things, and would not have done what was needed to put the country back on course by any stretch, but Obama was an enemy within.  McCain isn't.  Simple as that.

That you voted for the worst person to ever run for president, let alone win, doesn't really say much for your political analytical abilitiies.  Neither does thinking Trump is brilliant for doing the very stupid things he does that turn off potential allies in Congress, and turn off potential swing voters. 

That you can't tell the difference between the run of the mill Democrat and the run of the mill Republican amazes me.  When ObamaCare repeal lost in the Senate, did you look to see who voted for and against it?  All the Ds voted against, all but a handfull of Rs voted for.  How about court nominees?  I think if you check, you'll see a similar result.  How about other bills, or other appointees?  Same result.  You don't know what you're talking about.

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Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
« on: January 12, 2018, 09:19:56 PM »
Since when is Haiti NOT a "shithole country?"...

Since Trump said it was, of course

It will be an impeachable offense by Tuesday

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Random Topics / Re: Where is Art Bell?
« on: January 12, 2018, 09:15:44 PM »
... Radio is his passion!...

Art decided to put the final touches on his legacy by going out in a hail of gunfire.

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Radio and Podcasts / Re: George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium
« on: January 12, 2018, 09:12:12 PM »
This surprises you? He's been phoning it in for years.

No, just a report.  So the rest of us don't have to listen

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