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Quote from: SomeVelvetMorning on February 21, 2013, 11:41:39 PM
Do I think we will be sued?  No.  Is Noory stupid enough to threaten if not out right try to sue?  Yes.
Forgive me if this has already been posted.  Back in 2007, the Nooron made similar threats against the Fantastic Forum:
From George Noory <george@coasttocoastam.com>
May 17, 2007 4:11 PM   
subject: FF

Once again, your  forum is being used for hate and inaccuracy. The Sci-Fi show IS NOT a paid for informercial, but has been produced for Sci-Fi and will run at their expense.

Additionally, I have informed my attorney to immediately begin plans to sue various members for libel and to obtain from you either voluntarily or in court appropriate IP addresses, etc.

I take my career seriously and have NO problems with honest criticism and critique, but it's gotten out of hand.

I am asking you, as the administrator for the LAST TIME to clean this up, and will hold you personally responsible for such libelous attempts by your members to libel me and the show.
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http://www.fantasticforum.com/1res/showthread.php?threadid=27940

Love George's post.  Too bad he doesn't come play with us.

The "I take my career seriously and have NO problems with honest criticism and critique"  is hilarious but you left off the best part, at the end when he says:

"Time to clean it up folks!"

Maybe George's angle is he's not a public figure.

Looks around courtroom 'you honor, has anyone in this room heard of me before today?'

Quote from: mombird3 on February 21, 2013, 02:17:07 AM
... I cannot believe any lawyer would take the case for Noory.

If I were to, heh, offer my opinion that George is about as cheap as he is dumb and lazy, then he's not hiring any attorneys himself.

But he wouldn't have to.  My understanding is Big Corporations have attorneys on staff with nothing much to do except register logos, figure out ways to funnel employee pensions to the exec's, and defend malfunctioning products in court - if told to go harass people on behalf of George Noory, that's what they would do.

George thought all he had to do was get the job, sit there and have guests on to carry the show, and a built in audience would think he's just wonderful - maybe a few that really preferred Art Bell would drop off and go away leaving only people that would buy his t-shirts, posters, and coffee mugs.

At some level he knows he doesn't put effort into the show and that he wouldn't be very good even if he did, but he has excuses for each bit of his suckage ('I can't read 5 books a week so I won't read any', 'it's for the new listeners', 'the show isn't about yelling and screaming', 'it's the guests job to get their information out', 'he must have hung up', 'I was born with a speech defect', etc, etc, etc). 

He thought he could get away with being unprepared and all the rest because he doesn't realize everyone else actually listens when people talk and is interested in the world around them.  He thought Art and the listeners were a bunch of kooks, and that the kooks wouldn't be all that discerning when it came to his show.

He probably thought all that right up to last month, and that except for the 5 of us 'haters' causing trouble, no one would even realize how bad he is at hosting an interview show.  When Art chipped in with a few comments, it may have really shocked George.

Stump dumb, lazy man,
burnt mouth, ruined show, won't go,
gunna sue 'em all

Quote from: IvannZ on February 20, 2013, 09:00:24 AM
George and his group are getting ready to take legal action on this site soon and get you shut down.


Enjoy it while you can George Haters, your days are numbered!

What are the things you like best about George?

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Quote from: Marc knight on February 19, 2013, 12:36:01 PM
Louisiana's incarceration rate is nearly five times Iran's, 13 times China's and 20 times Germany's.

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2012/05/louisiana_is_the_worlds_prison.html

I'm not sure Iran China and Germany are good comparisons.  Maybe Newark, Oakland and Detroit.  Seemed like there were still a lot of unjailed criminals operating in and around New Orleans after Katrina.

The question is, are there any people in jail there that shouldn't be.

George comes off as a cry baby mama's boy.

One of his personal stories was about the time the neighborhood kids all turned on him (imagine that) and were chasing him with squirtguns.  Ma Noory ended up soaking them with a hose - further endearing him around the neighborhood no doubt.

From time to time he's claimed she stays up and listens to every show, calling him afterword with comments and ideas.  'Like havin' uhnuthur perducer' says our mama's boy.  Guess who's telling him he ought to sue.

Quote from: HorrorRetro on February 19, 2013, 12:26:12 PM
...  If these simpletons believe they can successfully pursue legal claims against those who nitpick a public figure, they are crazy...

I wonder how far into the 10,000 hours of show broadcasts the judge would have to hear before dismissing the case.

(5 days a week x 50 weeks x 10 years x 4 hours per show)

Quote from: NoMoreNoory on February 12, 2013, 06:41:45 PM
... There was also this cracker at the top of one of his commercials: 'Do you know what the Wow! factor is? It's when you look at something and say Wow!'

Without George's clarification, that little puzzler would have haunted me to my grave...

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Quote from: Seraphim27 on February 19, 2013, 09:15:17 AM
... I remember when he first started hosting after Art, I felt halfway hopeful, like, "OK, there'll never be another Art, but maybe this guy can at least pull it off." It's only been during the past few years that his out-of-left-field ridiculous questions and spacey way of conducting interviews have started irritating me...

I think he has gotten worse over time.  I haven't listened for 2 or 3 years now but he was still worsening when I finally stopped.   But I also think it takes a while to notice all the suckiness and realize each sucky bit is another in a series and not an isolated event - for example it takes awhile to realize he never asks a follow up unless it's on one of the 2 or 3 topics he's interested in or if it's one of the handfull of regular guests he's comfortable with.

That may be George's biggest problem (well, that and laziness) - still after 10 years he just does not seem comfortable with people other than his regulars.  Seems like a bad thing for a radio talk show host.

Quote from: CrabbyOld Bat on February 19, 2013, 09:58:45 AM
... so I sent George an email of my own...



From: "george@coasttocoastam.com" <george@coasttocoastam.com>
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:00 AM
Subject: RE: Quick question

Actually we call them the way we see them….rude ….and bordering on defamation….we already have an attorney checking into the site.
Thanks for your email…..

I remember George once praising Lex for what looked like very minor changes to the website, and mentioned that it had taken him something like a year or two to get it done.  Putting together a lawsuit is a bit more involved in that, maybe we'll all get served by Team Norry in about 30 years.

Quote from: UnscreenedCaller on February 18, 2013, 07:55:18 PM
... Noory's Friday schedule has been shrinking over the past year with a lot of fill-ins by Wells and Simone, and sometimes Knapp. It also makes sense that he might be turning Friday, or at least a Friday rotation over to Wells...

Which would mean George Noary skipping out early on Thursdays... but would he still play UFO Phil

Quote from: NoMoreNoory on February 18, 2013, 05:32:51 PM
... <<On Feb 18, 2013, at 5:53 PM, <george@coasttocoastam.com> wrote:

We think about 5 of you…at 200,000 a piece lol>>...

'We'?  So not only do they read the forum, they talk about it.  Nice.

When new folks show up here, they mostly have some version of 'until now I've been wodering if I'm the only one that thinks George sucks'.  Maybe George has about 5 lissners that truly like him.

Quote from: MV on February 18, 2013, 02:42:06 PM

he really does seem entirely uneducated and illiterate to me.  how he got this job, i can not imagine.

The grammar, the spelling, the content, the great thing is we know it's George for sure - no intern or fairly educated underling would sent those responses out.

Quote from: MV on February 18, 2013, 02:39:00 PM
oh, and there are a lot of reasons why i love this forum, but at the top of the list is this:
while every other coast forum is busy sucking george noory's ass just so they can get mentioned on his shitty little overnight radio show, we're busy trolling him via email and any other form of communication we can find.  meanwhile, we're many times larger than any of those other forums.  the irony.


george noory sucks.

When the first GLP 'George Sucks' thread reached 2500 pages I sent George a congradulatory email and asked if he could give us a shout out. 

He replied that we were lowlifes (sic) and we could 'wallow in our dispair'.

It's great to know we are at least annoying to him.

Quote from: West of the Rockies on February 18, 2013, 01:30:41 PM
Hi, Paperboy... I think you make some solid points, but I don't agree with you (or at least with what I think you're inferring) that the U.S. media is especially the lapdog of liberals.  Think about AM radio.  Aren't the vast majority of voices heard there pretty conservative?  Dennis Miller, Rush, Hannity, Beck, Savage, et al.  Yup, there's MSNBC, but there's also FOX News (with its larger audience).  CBS is owned by the corporate giant Westinghouse.  NBC is jointly owned by Comcast and General Electric; I'm pretty sure they're very focused on bottom-line profits.  Most newspapers and TV and radio stations are corporate-owned.  Sure, there's NPR and PBS, but if you ever surf over to the comments made in the various discussion forums of both broadcasters, you'll find that they are regarded as either rightwing or leftwing (depending on the filters of the various listeners).  I think they lean a little -- but not a lot -- to the left.

You could certainly name a list of left-wing writers/editors.; others could present a list of rightwing writers/editors.  The Wall Street Journal (owned by Murdoch) is regarded by many now as leaning politically right (along with the Washington Post and other papers).  The San Francisco Chronicle and Sacramento Bee are certainly more leftwing.

I think the idea that the mainstream media is leftist is one of the big lies in this country.  The lovely Sarah Palin (I mean that) calls the MSM the "Lamestream Media", but that is a snarky bit of reductionist rhetoric.  Once again, we're back to that point:  reducing the other side to a simple set of basic principles.  I have no doubt that I sometimes do that myself.

Yes, the Conservatives have talk radio.  That is dwarfed by the main stream media.  A tiny percentage of the country listens to, say, Rush Limbaugh.  There is also Fox which is less one sided and more even (apparently, I've never watched it), and the internet with all sides presented if one looks.

The Big Media outlets are mostly owned by big conglomerates.  Maybe certain exec's are 'Conservatives', but as a whole Big Business and the Fortune 500 aren't.  They lobby and finance the campaigns of both sides, more goes to the candidates they think will win.  They are mostly just buying access.  It seems to me most CEOs are Democrats - I'm forever hearing about some D or Lib cause they are supporting.  I would argue that the largest companies love high taxes and lots of regulations because they have te resources to aviod them, while the taxes and regs stiffle any competition coming along.

The Fortune 500 are more Globalist than anything else.  So is the National Democrat Party.  So is the leadership and majority of the National Republican Party.   Quick - what side of the following is the MSM on:  abortion, death penalty, gun ownership, higher or lower taxes, bigger or smaller government?  When the thugs like Occupy go on a vandalism rampage, how is it reported  - as favorably as possible, or as harshly as possible?  Obviously the MSM are Libs.  Clearly.

One way to tell is to read a few newspapers and watch some TV news for a certain time.  And also listen to talk radio.  The thing about Rush and the rest is that the stuff they present that is completely missing from the Mainstream Media. Just completely ignored.  So the talk radio hosts play clips or read comments made by politicians, then comment on them.  Of course it's with a Conservative slant, but in my experience, it's rarely not taken out of context, although sometimes it is (just like the MSM).  It is often comments made to specific audiences that the politician was confident the Main Stream reporters will ignore and bury.  Or it's coments made in committee or in reference to policy or legislation that the MSM again have ignored and tried to bury.

It is extremely clear to me - reading the paper, looking at MSM websites, then listening to bits of talk radio here and there when I can or visiting 'right wing' websites and finding otherwise buried information -  that the MSM is actively engaged in a very one sided campaign.  They are Liberal and they are Globalist.  They are not 'putting it all out there' and letting us 'decide'.

Quote from: West of the Rockies on February 18, 2013, 01:20:00 PM
... To a small segment of our body politic, however, "let's work together" goes into the ears but what is heard is "Let's be socialist" or maybe "You didn't build that."...

Actually, what was said was 'You didn't build that'.  What was heard by many (or at least spun) was 'let's work together'.

Now interpreting the 'you didn't build that' line, I assume some part of what he meant truly was 'let's work together'.  But why didn't he just say that - remember this is supposed to be the smartest person in the room, the best thinker and speaker, all that.  So why was 'you didn't build that' what came to mind for him? 

When you include some of the other stuff he's said, the distain he shows for the private sector and 'the millionaires and billionaires' (any family earning $200,000), the 20 years sitting in that Marxist church, he is certainly a man of the Left and DID mean what he said.  He just didn't mean to say it.  Can you imagine a Reagan saying something like that, trashing entrepeneurs, when he meant to say 'let's work together'?  No.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on February 18, 2013, 11:46:36 AM

... Communsim has never worked because it isn't communism; it's always been a form of fascism...

I would be quite happy if people, say 10 100 or 1000, got together and formed a company they then all worked at as equals.  And there are a few small business around like that.  But that is not typically how it works.

Usually it's one guy, or maybe several, or sometimes outside investors setting something up, that start something, often put years of time and energy into it until it even becomes profitable, then finally enjoy some profits and a decent living either running it or selling it.  Then the Big Government types come along and want to tax much of that profit away.  Even worse is when the Communists seize power and want to take everything away from everyone (when Obama gets away from the tele-prompter and his mask drops on occasion, you can even hear it:  'spread the wealth around', 'you didn't build that', etc).

Those really are the only two ways we get to true Communism.  Which are you proposing?

If you are proposing seizing everything, it would have to be done through a government armed against it's citizens.  There is a certain history we can look to to see how it's turned out before. 


You say it just wasn't done properly.  That exactly what Khrushchev said about Stalin.  And what Brezhnev said about Khrushchev.  And what Andropov, Chernenko and Gorbechev said about Brezhnev.  And what the people that cam after Mao said about him.  Soon they will be saying that about Castro, if they aren't already.

And when they seize businesses, they done such a great job running them, haven't they?  Completely running the whole country into the ground.  Take a look sometime at pictures of East Berlin and pictures of West Berlin taken around the same time.  That should tell anyone about all they need to know.

Meanwhile the death count in trying to properly implement this fantasy is up to what, 100 million?  Or is it only 85 million, depending on who is counting?   I think the facts are in.  We don't need anymore experiments.  Or people telling us it just wasn't done right.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on February 18, 2013, 06:19:17 AM
... US politics is all about the race to showing how right they are under the fear they'll (wrongly) be percieved as commie/pinko/socialist/liberal treacherous bastards.. Carried along by the largely autocratic television press, the populace buy into what they're told, without actually understanding what a political spectrum actually is and how the facets function.

Reading your posts, I think you have developed a certain mis-understanding of the US in at least a couple of areas.  The Media here in the US, and certainly the Left, have insisted on a couple of things that just are not true.

1)  That US politicians are under the thumb of the 'Christians' and are always on the verge of installing a Christian theocracy.  The truth is the Evangelical Christians tend to be a part of the Conservative wing of the R party, and the Conservatives as a whole are a minority in the party and don't set policy.  Additionally, many of the minority groups - Black and Hispanic - as well as most Catholics are in the D party, but are also uninfluential as far as implementing policy.

Politicians merely pay lip service to these groups during campaigns, then ignore tem entirely.  I assume you hear the lip service and think it's more than what it really is

2)  That US politicians and US policy is about running to the right - the point you make above.  Again, this is more lip service than reality.  During campaigns, nearly all R's claim to be 'Conservative', and the D's claim to be 'fiscal' Conservatives.  They also talk a lot about this when a vote on a major bill is coming up - but then vote the opposite of what a Conservative would do.  But a country running massive deficits - $1.5 Trillion a year, huge tax rates (although maybe not  compared to some European countries), redundent social programs growing like topsy, sending the military all over the world and running 2 major wars and who even knows have many smaller ones - none of this is 'Conservative' or 'right-wing'.

I realize it is dificult to have a good understanding on what is really happening some place far away, but listening to what the Left claim they are up against, and listening to what Big Media in our country has to say is not the path to the truth.

Quote from: jazmunda on February 17, 2013, 11:50:43 PM
Pay me lots of money and I'll sell anything that you ask me to.

I remember cringing everytime an ad for HGH came on

Quote from: ItsOver on February 17, 2013, 11:38:17 PM

That's what I was wondering.  Jorch pushes his make-believe TV show on C2C...

Have you seen that opening - a series of shots of things like pyramids, scary creatures, flying saucers, etc, there's George narrating off camera in his best menacing voice telling us he's 'gun-nuh get to thuh trooth'.

And then proceeds to ask the same guests the same questions as he does on Coast.. with less enthusiasm, if that's poshible.

Quote from: ItsOver on February 17, 2013, 11:38:17 PM

That's what I was wondering.  Jorch pushes his make-believe TV show on C2C.  I'm assuming he wouldn't do it if PremRat wasn't getting something out of the deal but who knows with bozo Jorch.

They probably let him put up whatever he wants. 

Heck, if you walked into PremRat and asked for him they might not even know who you were talking about (after a bit of scurrying - 'oh, I think he might be the guy that's on at night sometimes').

Quote from: highdesert on February 17, 2013, 11:03:56 PM
God...DAMN that's a lot of suckage.

They say that it takes 10,000 hours of practice to become a master at something. So, is this yet another case where the opposite is true for Snoory? 

And for every show he does - 4 hours - he claims another 8 of show prep.  So that's 30,000 hours of show prep and air time.  I wonder if it's occured to anybody at PremRat that he might not have the aptitude for this.

Quote from: Rico999 on February 08, 2013, 10:07:11 PM
Hell, compared with the now-defunct Godlike Productions page of "George Noory Sucks," this page is the old folks home of Noory "haters."  There were some real creative misfits on that site and every day was an adventure in hilarious weirdness.  The page was way, way off the wall.

The Snooron himself would show up on that page from time to time, easily recognizable, but pretending to be an "associate" of GN and he kept bringing up the possibility of lawsuits.   

It was explained to him or his "associate" (many times) that as a public figure, he's wide open for any type of SATIRE or criticism that anyone wanted to bring to bear on him.  Any attorney worth their salt would laugh Snoorge out of the office if he came whining to them about being persecuted by online, anonymous "haters."

The idea of Noory suing anyone on this page or the people who sponsor it is prima facie absurd.

Mad Magazine has made a living since the early 50s making fun of public figures and is still going strong.

It was right around then that George started talking about Tommy's 'fiance' on the show.  Hoping to put rumors generated on that thread to rest no doubt.

Good ol' Tommy, I wonder if he and his 'fiance' ever got married.

On the other hand, PremRat has had George as the main host for 10 years now.

So ten years of George is over 2500 shows (approx 5 shows a week for 50 weeks for 10 years, add in some Sundays and shows before he was the main host and it has to be over 2500). 

Over 10,000 hours of broadcast suckage (2500 shows x 4 hours each..).  And that's just the shows George hosted.

Another episode ('Beyond Nasca') of Ancient Aliens came and went, and again no George.  That was the 8th show of the new season, it had plenty of Linda Moulton Howe.

I checked to see how many episodes of Ancient Alien there have been.  The 2nd show of this season - and George's last appearance - was the 44th episode overall. 

So it took the Ancient Aliens folks 44 episodes to realize George added nothing except wasted time to the show and dump him - even though he's useful in promoting it and interviewing the people involved. 

Quote from: onan on February 17, 2013, 03:43:27 AM
... There is no scholarship on the internet. No real vetting of internet sources. It is a collage of popular information, not necessarily true but does get a lot of hits.


And, generally speaking our egos are more vested in being right than really understanding an issue. Hence we have quackery in more places than shit in an untended stable.

That is all true.  I would add though that if a person is interested in some topic or idea or event they can turn to the internet and find an almost endless number of views, commentary, and facts - from ALL sides, not just one side like before, and not just what the 2 parties want put out.  With the rise of the internet - and yes, talk radio - CBS, PBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, the NY Times and the rest of the mainstream papers, Time, and Newsweek, and all the rest lost their monopoly on the news and disemination of political opinion  - since at least Watergate, if not Viet Nam, these institutions have been wholly owned subsidiaries of the Democrat Party.

People can sift through all of it and decide for themselves now.  They have to decide for themselves the validity of what they find, but that's always been the case.  A person with an open mind is better able to make informed decisions, even change their mind from time to time.  Of course, as always, plenty of people are just going to seek validation as well.  But at least all sides of everything are easily available to those who seek it. 

Unfortunately it's still too easy for the people that don't care and aren't really interested to watch a few minutes of TV news every 4 years and vote accordingly.