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#1
Totally respect and admire Linda.

Have you done anything in the paranormal field, guys? 
#2
Radio and Podcasts / Re: Ian Punnett
October 23, 2010, 11:39:19 PM
It's 10/23-24/10.
#3
Radio and Podcasts / Re: Ian Punnett
October 23, 2010, 11:36:38 PM
Tonight, Ian has a tabloid journalist on.  What next?

He is just awful.
#4
Quote from: b_dubb on October 17, 2010, 03:41:36 PM
well i never said he WASN'T a complete monster.  merely that there may be another side to that story

I read somewhere that he had someone help him!  That means he planned the whole thing in advance.  He knew it was wrong.  He is, as you say, a complete monster.
#5
Quote from: b_dubb on October 17, 2010, 12:35:49 PM
Quote from: anomalies on October 17, 2010, 07:41:16 AM
Quote from: b_dubb on October 15, 2010, 07:08:51 PM
Quote from: anomalies on October 15, 2010, 06:01:01 PMI am disappointed that Roman Polanski escaped the law for so many years after raping a child for his own amusement (no longer watch his movies either - many of them, like Chinatown have sick themes anyway)

i've seen some evidence that Polanski was practically framed by the police.  the LAPD kept harassing him until he began to consider a plea deal.  he agreed to the plea deal but then the LAPD/District Attorney reneged on the deal and tried to prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law.  was a crime committed?  i don't really know.  but there's at least the chance that some less than straightforward dealings were involved. 

i'm a fan of his films and willing to give him the benefit of the doubt after hearing some of the stories about the LAPD/DA behavior

It's nice that you are so forgiving.  Had it been you or your sister he raped, and someone accused you of making the story up, and stating that the police 'framed' him, how would you feel then?

Polanski was identified by the 13-year old girl and had just prior to the rape had been in her mother's house, where Polanski picked her up the day of the rape.  I don't remember the whole story, but he was not framed.  The girl testified again within the last few years, and said she doesn't want him to go to jail - she'd rather forget the whole thing.  BTW, her wishes wouldn't matter anyway - she was a child and underage - that's rape. 

The reason her mother let her go off with him was because the mother was greedy and thought Polanski would spend big bucks on her daughter, make her a star or at least a well-paid model.  She thought he was going to take modeling photos that might lead to acting jobs.  She also thought a caregiver went with her daughter, but Polanski prevented her from going, apparently without the mother's consent.  The mother was also naive. 

Polanski is a viper.  When he raped 13-year old Samantha Geimer, he did so against her wishes, because she begged him not to rape her and often said, "No" during this unforgivable act.  Again, whether this rape occurred with or without her consent, she was underage.  It was rape.  See this list of highlights:  Polanski event list.  You will also note that the police didn't charge him right away.  They were careful to check out the girl and her mother's stories first, so where this 'framing' thing comes from is a mystery to me.

what i'm saying is that there is some question as to what actually happened. and i didn't say framing.  the DA and LAPD may have seen an opportunity to advance their careers with a high profile case

Okay, you used the words 'practically framed,' so that's what I thought you meant.  I don't know what took them so long to arrest him (or attempt to arrest him).  That does seem suspicious to me, too.  He was not framed.  There is plenty of evidence -  caregiver testimony, mother and victim testimony, etc.

You also says "i'm a fan of his films and willing to give him the benefit of the doubt ..."  That, in my opinion, is no reason to forgive someone for raping a child.

Anyway, MV is also right.  I forgot to mention that Polanski drugged this girl to make her easier to handle.  He is such a b@$t@rd.
#6
I don't usually listen to it.  When I do, there is a mixture of interesting, silly and stupid stories.  So, I usually don't listen for the next couple of years.

Plus, the host is usually Art Bell.  Not crazy over him.
#7
Quote from: MV on October 16, 2010, 01:55:51 AM
Something I'd like to add...
I started listening to Coast To Coast back when it was the Art Bell Show. For me, it will always be the Art Bell Show. I don't, nor could I ever., view Art as being replaceable. Everybody else is just second rate as host of the show... some more than others.

Since I am not an Art Bell fan like you, it is a little difficult for me to understand why you feel that way, but, point taken.  You feel the way you feel.  Can't argue with that, MV.
#8
Quote from: b_dubb on October 15, 2010, 07:08:51 PM
Quote from: anomalies on October 15, 2010, 06:01:01 PMI am disappointed that Roman Polanski escaped the law for so many years after raping a child for his own amusement (no longer watch his movies either - many of them, like Chinatown have sick themes anyway)

i've seen some evidence that Polanski was practically framed by the police.  the LAPD kept harassing him until he began to consider a plea deal.  he agreed to the plea deal but then the LAPD/District Attorney reneged on the deal and tried to prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law.  was a crime committed?  i don't really know.  but there's at least the chance that some less than straightforward dealings were involved. 

i'm a fan of his films and willing to give him the benefit of the doubt after hearing some of the stories about the LAPD/DA behavior

It's nice that you are so forgiving.  Had it been you or your sister he raped, and someone accused you of making the story up, and stating that the police 'framed' him, how would you feel then?

Polanski was identified by the 13-year old girl and had just prior to the rape had been in her mother's house, where Polanski picked her up the day of the rape.  I don't remember the whole story, but he was not framed.  The girl testified again within the last few years, and said she doesn't want him to go to jail - she'd rather forget the whole thing.  BTW, her wishes wouldn't matter anyway - she was a child and underage - that's rape. 

The reason her mother let her go off with him was because the mother was greedy and thought Polanski would spend big bucks on her daughter, make her a star or at least a well-paid model.  She thought he was going to take modeling photos that might lead to acting jobs.  She also thought a caregiver went with her daughter, but Polanski prevented her from going, apparently without the mother's consent.  The mother was also naive. 

Polanski is a viper.  When he raped 13-year old Samantha Geimer, he did so against her wishes, because she begged him not to rape her and often said, "No" during this unforgivable act.  Again, whether this rape occurred with or without her consent, she was underage.  It was rape.  See this list of highlights:  Polanski event list.  You will also note that the police didn't charge him right away.  They were careful to check out the girl and her mother's stories first, so where this 'framing' thing comes from is a mystery to me.
#9
Quote from: b_dubb on October 14, 2010, 10:57:24 AM
in the span of Art's career in broadcasting ... how many times do you think he's had to say "TURN YOUR RADIO OFF"?  i'm betting that has something to do with why he seems 'unfriendly' at times.  cause people have a seemingly limitless capacity for stupidity

I don't hold that against him, b_dubb.  Those callers are told at the beginning to turn them.  It must be frustrating for any host to have to tell each individual yet again.
#10
Quote from: 11angeleyes11 on October 13, 2010, 07:34:42 PM
I know how to shake it up!

Next week have a week of American Coast to Coast Hosts!  All week a host would have a guest and a hour to slot for an interview with that guest.  These hosts would come from signing up with the local affliatates.  The only restriction is that they must host within the Coast show genre and have shown an interest in that area.

Each nite there will be three hosts and the last hour would be callers commenting in an open line segment.  Art Bell or Ian would alternate the manning of the phones.  Then, during that last hour, the listeners would supply the winning host through the Instapol.  With four nights you would have four hosts and they would come back for the Friday nite and the winner of the week would be selected.  After four weeks, you would have four winning hosts.  Then, the battle of the Coast hosts would be held.  The winner would get Noory's contract through 2012. 

I do NOT think that would be boring and bland.

funny, angeleyes.  lol
#11
Quote from: MV on October 13, 2010, 03:43:14 PM
one more thing, anomalies... i know where you're coming from, and i'm not surprised by you or anyone else who feels the way you do about art.  he often comes across as an impatient, dismissive man who harbors some sort of deeply seeded resentment toward others.  i can't explain it, but i totally see it and understand it.  i have said before that if i were given the opportunity to meet art, i'd turn it down.  i think it would be such a disappointment.  i see it when someone compliments him and he responds with a palpable disinterest.  actually, it's almost a disgust he shows when someone compliments him. 


i furthermore am not impressed by how he's abandoned his children.  as someone who hasn't seen his biological father since age 5 (which, for me, has become a personal choice rather than a circumstance), i understand how disappointing that must be to his kids, particularly with the fame he's acquired.  i don't think he's the kind of guy who has an easy time seeing the world through the eyes of other people, especially as it relates to his own actions. 


in other words... i'll bet art is an asshole.


THAT SAID... i don't care about any of this.  none of it is my business, and it doesn't affect the enjoyability of the program for me.  if anything, with the number of kooks who appear on c2c and who need/deserve manhandling, art's disposition is a boon to the program.  i don't want some guy to come on the show and suggest jesus was from venus and hear the words "absolutely" or "fascinating" follow such a suggestion.  i just wouldn't be able to continue listening to something on the order of that.

I got that feeling from Art right away (that he's an @$$h013).  I didn't even know he abandoned his kids.  That's sad.  That kind of matters to me.  I don't want to enable anyone who doesn't need encouragement, by feeding their egos.  I no longer watch Woody Allen films, and I am disappointed that Roman Polanski escaped the law for so many years after raping a child for his own amusement (no longer watch his movies either - many of them, like Chinatown have sick themes anyway).

At any rate, and to be fair to George, he sometimes chides those callers who are laying it on thick.  (You can hear his voice brighten.)  I dislike the 'absolutely' response that George gives his guests, but he usually doesn't do that with wacky callers or guests. 
#12
Quote from: MV on October 13, 2010, 03:26:37 PM
Quote from: anomalies on October 12, 2010, 11:37:15 PM
When it's a guest, you need to ask questions to put them on the spot if they don't make sense, not say, 'Well, I believe...,' because I don't give a r@t's behind what Art Bell thinks.  I am tuned in to listen to someone else's point of view, and it ain't the host's!  If we wanted to listen to Art Bell, George Noory or Ian what's-his-name's opinion, they should get their own show, called 'My Opinion ...'  I do wish Noory's interview skills would improve.

thing is, i do tune in to hear what art thinks and what he has to say.  he is intelligent, he has a wide array of life experience to draw upon, he's a great conversationalist, and more often than not his input is responsible for transforming what would otherwise have been a bland, throw-away guest/interview into something memorable.  there are countless examples of that happening. 

if people didn't tune in specifically because of the host, then we'd listen to these guests on any old shit-bag talk show they ended up on... but we typically don't.  most guests themselves don't bring enough to the table to sustain three hours of spoken content.  the host must use his personality, experience, intellect, and his control over the show to snatch a guest's ideas from what would otherwise be a swirling hurricane of concepts and focus them in a package which is presentable in broadcast form. 

i think the guest is just that... a guest.  the host is supposed to make it interesting.  otherwise, anybody could be a host... but few can.

I think they're all intelligent to some degree, though, MV.  But if the guest isn't someone I'm interested in (or the subject matter he/she will discuss is), I don't listen, or I'll go elsewhere (like Jeff Rense).  I don't look at any of the hosts as being authorities on anything.  You can interview authors for years.  That doesn't make you an expert.  Real research makes you an expert, and I don't think any of them are real researchers, except for George Knapp.

The host should be personable, kind, fair, allow the guest to speak unimpeded on whatever their research/book is about, ask the right questions, keep the show going at a good pace, interrupt for commercials, etc.  But, as far as their personal knowledge on the subject?  They only need to have reviewed the author's latest book, and have accumulated some interesting questions.  The producers and researchers working at C2C can help with that, so what you might think of as the hosts' hard work may, in fact, be due to a researcher's hard work.

So, MV, instead of wanting to hear what the guest has to say, you are saying that you listen in to hear the host (especially if he's Art Bell)?
#13
Quote from: ringthane on October 12, 2010, 02:03:32 AM
Quote from: anomalies on October 11, 2010, 03:36:05 PM
Hi, ringthane.  I'm sorry to say this, but I think those visits from the Secret Service have turned Bell into what appears to be a paranoid old man.  Is he really paranoid?  Don't know, but it seems that way.  (How many times has he quit?)  Paranoia can do things to ya.

I don't miss Art.  I prefer Noory over Bell, because Noory is a kinder person.

I do think something is up at C2C and I think the format change (mixed guests) is just the tip of the iceberg, which includes annoying and sad changes.


Anomalies, that's where we differ -- I don't see George's kindness as an asset, but as a liability.

Yes, Art could be brief, brusque, abrupt, and at rare times even rude. To me, it didn't distract from the show. George's kindness occasionally benefits the show/format, but more often than not his hospitality causes the show to drag because he doesn't manage the callers/guests efficiently. Just my opinion.

I do agree, however, that something seems to be going on behind the scenes.

Hey, ringthane and MV.  I understand you like the discordance of Bell, but I think he does it (sometimes) to belittle his callers unnecessarily.  There's no need to be rude.  You can just say 'You have one minute.  Thanks for calling,' and hang up.  If the caller starts going on and on, say 'We have other callers.  Gotta go now,' and hang up.  When it's a guest, you need to ask questions to put them on the spot if they don't make sense, not say, 'Well, I believe...,' because I don't give a r@t's behind what Art Bell thinks.  I am tuned in to listen to someone else's point of view, and it ain't the host's!  If we wanted to listen to Art Bell, George Noory or Ian what's-his-name's opinion, they should get their own show, called 'My Opinion ...'  I do wish Noory's interview skills would improve.  They were better before, and I partly blame the producers changing the line-up constantly, not giving George a chance to do his homework on each guest properly.  Also, this mixed format where there are multiple guests makes it difficult to keep everyone straight.  They should do away with it, or at least keep it to a single subject.  If an author is coming on to hawk a book, the host should read the book before that happens.  If Noory isn't given enough time to prepare for it, he won't know what (kindly stated) arguments to make, and the show will be pointless.  So, you blame Noory, while I think it's more than that, and partly out of his hands.

But, we do both think the show has changed for the worse and that there are interview problems with Noory (and I think all of them, except maybe Knapp).
#14
Quote from: starrmtn001 on March 26, 2010, 11:00:16 PM
I did years ago - and got banned soon after for making a non-offensive pun about something snoory said.  It was a Malaprop of some sort - funnier 'n hell and I said as much.  Probably the last post I ever made there.

:'( -NOT!        :D

Same thing happened to me, Star, only I posted to BadBoy, told him to delete my account, then asked him if he was mentally ill.

Right now NHZ is down again. (10/11/2010)
#15
Hi, ringthane.  I'm sorry to say this, but I think those visits from the Secret Service have turned Bell into what appears to be a paranoid old man.  Is he really paranoid?  Don't know, but it seems that way.  (How many times has he quit?)  Paranoia can do things to ya.

I don't miss Art.  I prefer Noory over Bell, because Noory is a kinder person.

I do think something is up at C2C and I think the format change (mixed guests) is just the tip of the iceberg, which includes annoying and sad changes.
#16
Quote from: Do you think it was angels? on October 10, 2010, 09:21:25 PM
It's still under lockdown.

Thanks for the 411, Do you think it was angels?  I can't even see anything there, because he banned my IP address from any kind of access.  (That's what I get for asking him if he was mentally ill.)  lol
#17
Quote from: ArtBellFan on October 10, 2010, 12:45:23 PM
Quote from: ShelliesMom on October 05, 2010, 10:12:13 PM
???  What the heck is up with that site? ??? ?  I really believe those "members" are all sock puppets that George Noory had somebody create.  It's complete, unadulterated drivel.  And that "BadBoy" dude.  I guess he feels nobody else has a radio or are total idiots.  It can't be a real site; it just can't be.

For example, somebody posted, and I quote, "Here comes the music (insert funny emoticon)!  Hi, George!"

If anybody knows more about this ridiculous crap fest of a site, I'd love to know more.

I know BadBoy from Fantastic Forum, he got and banned and NHZ was the result, I actually know his real name, where he lives and his phone number, no I won't give out that information.  I agree he is obsessed with snoory, I tried to join his forum when he first put it up and because he knew that I have never listened to snoory and agreed with all the bashing on FF at one time he wouldn't let me join, I had a good laugh over that as I didn't really want to be a member.  He is a Hollywood wanna be and would do anything to get mentioned on Coast and would brag ad nauseam when he did get mentioned.  I will say one good thing about him, he was a huge Art Bell fan and used to send me shows all the time back in the day and I know he didn't want Art to retire and he did not like snoory in the beginning, he probably still doesn't but is hanging on just in case snoory gives him a job or connects him with the Hollywood powers that be. Kissing butt hasn't worked so far.

Very interesting, ArtBellFan.  Thanks for sharing that.  He's sucking up for a reason.   Hope George can tell he's a coo-coo person.
#18
Quote from: ringthane on October 10, 2010, 02:36:41 AM
Wasn't George's original night time radio show in STL called the Night Hawk? Or maybe that was his nickname or his 'handle' for his on air persona.

So, I 'get' where fans of his from the original St Louis show would create a board dedicated to Snoory, and were double thrilled when he took over such a prestigious show.

But fan sites that don't allow dissent is creepy and just kinda deflates the value of being a fan in the first place.

As much as I love Art, he has quirks that irritate me and it's fun for like-minded fans to get together in a forum and blow some steam. I'm not into hagiography, but then again I wouldn't expect Noory or his NHZ minions to even understand that.

Speaking of Art criticism... I don't remember precisely when this happened, because Art retired/unretired more than Michael Jordan and Brett Favre combined. I think this was just prior to his second retirement, after he had replaced the terrible Mike Siegel.

I swear, about 4 weeks before Art had announced his second retirement I knew that something was up. He sounded... exhausted. Mentally wiped. He sounded as though he was just phoning it in, on auto-pilot. For that stretch, it seemed like he had Richard C. on every other night and just let that loon rave and ramble so Art didn't have to book guests or conduct interviews, do research or show prep, etc. Within a few weeks of that, Art had announced his 2nd retirement. It was a bad stretch of radio and painful to listen to.

I'm noticing Snoory really dropping the ball during interviews lately, I have to wonder if something is brewing behind the scenes. Or maybe I'm just more keenly aware of his lameness due to hanging out at Coastgab.

I'm with you, ringthane.

I remember George saying he was known as the night hawk at one time.

Art irritates me more than George does.  BTW, I was very impressed by your using the word 'hagiography (saint worship).'  I learned me a new word!   lol

The number of times Art has retired makes him look like a paranoid old geezer.

People calling George 'Snoory' wakes me up to the fact that he really doesn't seem to be interested in many of his guests.  He also doesn't seem to know much about what his guests do sometimes (doesn't do his homework), but part of that may be because they add guests at the last minute.  In order to prevent this, they should determine guests a week in advance, and if no one is signed up, go with open lines.  That will save George from looking so ill-prepared. 

As for you noticing George dropping the ball lately, I agree he's gotten worse.  He used to know more about the guests before and at least had some valid questions to ask them.  Nowadays, he's phoning it in, so to speak.

Is there something up at C2C?  I think so, yes.
#19
Random Topics / Re: Best Open Line Call You've Heard?
October 11, 2010, 06:11:18 AM
Quote from: general jamison johnson on September 26, 2010, 12:19:05 AM
The guy who was flying his little airplane into area 51 was awesome.  Remember that one?  Probably a hoax but was great.  You could hear the fighter jets flying past him and air raid sirens in the background, and he's going "This probably wasn't a good idea." 

Area 51 pilot phones Art Bell-REAL original broadcast

I totally remember that.  Cool.  Noory played it on his program at least once.  (I never listened to Art Bell.)
#20
Radio and Podcasts / Re: Ian Punnett
October 09, 2010, 10:50:53 PM
Quote from: MV on October 09, 2010, 09:07:15 PM
Quote from: anomalies on October 09, 2010, 02:04:49 PM
Quote from: MV on October 09, 2010, 11:57:06 AM
anomalies... i heard someone on that broadcast say, "anyone with two eyes and a brain can see i'm right and that this was an inside job."  are you referring to him?

I don't remember that quote.  Niels Harrit said that he watched the fall of Building 7 with his mouth wide open, and then watch it again and again, several times, before he realized it was most likely a controlled demolition, but I don't recall him ever saying "anyone with two eyes and a brain can see i'm right and that this was an inside job."  Maybe Richard Gage did? 
i think the guy was from denmark.

Yes, he is.  Danes = people from Denmark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark)
#21
Radio and Podcasts / Re: Ian Punnett
October 09, 2010, 10:48:11 PM
Quote from: MV on October 09, 2010, 09:06:01 PM
Quote from: anomalies on October 09, 2010, 02:04:49 PM
Anyway, I wanted to ask you about your avatar.  Looks familiar.  Who is that?  Thanks.
it was syd barrett of pink floyd... until i changed it to the noory commodity center.

Ah, thanks.  It was really bothering me.  Ha.
#22
Quote from: Do you think it was angels? on October 09, 2010, 10:38:37 PM
Quote from: Do you think it was angels? on October 09, 2010, 10:36:55 PM
Seems to me we should all visit and say hello at the same time.

They read my mind!!!  :o

The board administrator is no longer accepting any new registrations at the moment. 

I told you guys.  BadBoy must be mentally ill, or else why would he do that?
#23
Radio and Podcasts / Re: Post Worst Noory Quote
October 09, 2010, 02:07:18 PM
Quote from: Marc Knight on September 28, 2010, 08:07:17 PM
"Do you think asteroids have a brain and know which side of the planet to crash into?"

I find that hard to believe, but, it's funny, so...   rofl
#24
Radio and Podcasts / Re: Ian Punnett
October 09, 2010, 02:04:49 PM
Quote from: MV on October 09, 2010, 11:57:06 AM
anomalies... i heard someone on that broadcast say, "anyone with two eyes and a brain can see i'm right and that this was an inside job."  are you referring to him?

I don't remember that quote.  Niels Harrit said that he watched the fall of Building 7 with his mouth wide open, and then watch it again and again, several times, before he realized it was most likely a controlled demolition, but I don't recall him ever saying "anyone with two eyes and a brain can see i'm right and that this was an inside job."  Maybe Richard Gage did? 

Prof. Harrit later had someone familiar with controlled demolitions look at Building 7's collapse and that professional demolition expert agreed with him.  He also decided to go there to examine the rubble, and that's when he and his colleagues found the nano-thermite, which is what their paper is about.

Anyway, I wanted to ask you about your avatar.  Looks familiar.  Who is that?  Thanks.
#25
Radio and Podcasts / Re: Ian Punnett
October 09, 2010, 03:06:26 AM
Quote from: racefanwfo on October 05, 2010, 03:56:13 PM
ian punnett is a jerk off and should be removed from the show.
george knapp should be the host every sat & sun.
get rid of ian punnett now.

I tend to agree with your viewpoint.  He seems to be focused only on his own viewpoint.  That's not what this show (C2C) should be about - a self-absorbed part-time host.  I don't care what Ian's opinion is, nor do I care what George thinks, or Art or George Knapp.  A good host presents both sides (both Georges do this) and is polite to guests and callers.

I was very angry with how he treated a guest (Danish professor Niels Harrit) of a guest (Richard Gage) on his 8/21/10 show.  He was extremely rude to this professor, treating him like he was some stupid idiot, when, in fact, Prof. Harrit and eight other scientists wrote a paper about the nano-thermite (a new compound) they found in the rubble in NYC.  See http://nielsharrit.org/

Here is how the show was listed:

"911 DEBATE:

Date:      08-21-10
Host:      Ian Punnett
Guests:    Richard Gage, Dave Thomas, Kim Johnson, Niels Harrit


Richard Gage, from Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, and Dave Thomas, a physicist a physicist from New Mexicans for Science and Reason, joined Ian Punnett for the entire program to debate how the World Trade Center buildings collapsed on September 11, 2001.

Gage believes the WTC towers were brought down by controlled demolition involving thermite. "I think the dust of the World Trade Center reveals the secret of the cause that we're all looking for," he said. The dust contained billions of tiny spheres (about the diameter of a human hair) of previously molten iron, Gage revealed. This means the iron in the spheres sustained temperatures exceeding 2800 degrees, twice as high as what a jet fuel fire can produce, but within the range of a thermite reaction, he noted. In addition, Gage said the dust contained hundreds of small red-gray chips, which he identified as highly-advanced nano-thermite composite explosive material.

Thomas expressed his support for the gravitational collapse model. As the planes slammed into the twin towers, they cut through steel support structures and ignited immense fires across the floors of the building, he said. Heat from the fires further weakened the floor trusses, causing them to sag and pull in the perimeter walls, he continued. The additional weight, along with reduced support, sent the first section crashing down onto the floor beneath it with a force 30 times that of its static weight, Thomas explained. "The collapse was considered inevitable because every floor had even more dynamic force going at it," he added.

Responding to Gage's dust claims, Thomas pointed out that scientific analysis uncovered nothing unusual about the iron microspheres, and any ingredients taken to be thermite could just as easily be from the building's ordinary components (iron beams, paint, aluminum siding, etc). The two men argued about whether or not pools of molten steel had been found at the WTC site, if explosions and flashes of light were heard and seen that day, and what happened to all of the pancaked floors. They also shared their theories about what brought down Building 7 (the one not hit by a plane). Gage said it was a implosion produced by thermite; Thomas blamed damage caused by the north tower collapse, huge fires within, and a design flaw.

Physicist Kim Johnson and chemist Niels Harrit joined the discussion in hour three. Johnson observed that the WTC skyscrapers began falling precisely where they had been struck by the planes and the fires broke out, evidence he believes favors the gravitational collapse model. "A steel-framed high riser does not collapse due to fire," Harrit responded, citing an experiment by British Steel that showed an 8-story steel structure could repeatedly withstand attempts to burn it down. Harrit, like Gage, thinks the three buildings were brought down by controlled thermite explosions. Johnson called attention to the fact that none of the hundreds of dogs used to locate survivors, many of them cross-trained to find explosives, detected any trace of thermite at the 9/11 disaster site.

Website(s):
ae911truth.org
nmsr.org"

#26
Apparently, George is crazy about Mr. Fanthorpe.  I get the feeling there is something questionable about him.  But George likes his voice and the way he tells stories.

George is an old fashioned guy.  He loves Sinatra, for instance, not U2 or Beyonce. 
#27
Quote from: PhantasticSanShiSan on October 03, 2010, 10:41:43 PM
Quote from: anomalies on September 26, 2010, 08:50:48 AM
Quote from: nightshift on September 19, 2010, 07:30:24 PM
couple of pics I took at this years sevent in Pt. Pleasant WV

Mothman was a scary figure, according to John Keel.

I have met researcher and cryptozoologist, Loren Coleman, who brought a mothman doll to the meeting.  I tried to buy it off him, but he said 'no.'  Boo hoo.

I met him this past weekend.  Pretty sure I saw the doll in the museum.  He's got tons of that funky stuff - mothman dolls, bigfoot dolls, chupacabra dolls.  It's obvious that he collects anything related to cryptozoology.  And he was a pretty cool guy too.  Little bit cheesy at first (on the tour), but when I spoke him one on one, he was quite cool.  I was surprised by his attitude towards cryptozoology - I expected him to push the fantastical aspects of CZ but he didn't.

Yes, he came to speak to our MUFON group.  Told me about how he lost weight.  Cool guy.  I agree.
#28
Quote from: ShelliesMom on October 05, 2010, 10:12:13 PM
???  What the heck is up with that site?????  I really believe those "members" are all sock puppets that George Noory had somebody create.  It's complete, unadulterated drivel.  And that "BadBoy" dude.  I guess he feels nobody else has a radio or are total idiots.  It can't be a real site; it just can't be.

For example, somebody posted, and I quote, "Here comes the music (insert funny emoticon)!  Hi, George!"

If anybody knows more about this ridiculous crap fest of a site, I'd love to know more.

Hi, ShelliesMom.  I was a member there and thought that it must be paid for by George himself.  Just a guess.  If you'll notice, it's always the first in the list of websites that he thanks for being fans of C2C every night.

Most of the people there are very friendly, but as you say, some of their posts sound forced.

As far as BadBoy goes, I think he may be mentally ill, because of what he did to me.  When I first joined, I wanted to ask him (because he was moderator) a few questions, but my ability to PM was disabled.  I thought it must be disabled for everybody.  Wrong.  I soon received a PM from another user, and after I looked at it, I was then able to reply to it, and was able to PM!  I talked to this other user for some time.  During this period, a couple of my posts were edited.  I didn't swear or put anyone down in them.  I did ask why the host did something I found odd.  That was it.  That part of my posts was gone!

Before you know it, more and more of my posts were edited, even though I never insulted anyone, like "Ian stinks" or "Art Bell is an idiot."  I tried to PM BadBoy to ask him why he was editing my posts, but, again, my ability to PM was disabled.  I had replied to a woman who may have had an abduction experience (I was with MUFON at one time), and told her I was going to PM her, and that's when I found out I couldn't PM again (to anyone).  So, I posted my email address and told her she could contact me at my address, then also asked if others were having trouble PMing.  As soon as I looked for a response, I noticed the part of my post that mentioned my inability to PM had been edited out!  So... I posted to BadBoy, asked him to delete my account and asked him if he was mentally ill!   :P   A few people saw it.  The person I had been PMing and I email each other, so he knows at least.

Totally insulted!  NHZ is like a communist country who regulates what their people say.  No free speech at NHZ!
#29
Quote from: MV on September 29, 2010, 06:26:27 AM
Quote from: anomalies on September 29, 2010, 12:45:50 AM
Quote from: b_dubb on September 28, 2010, 08:50:14 PM
so a faceless corporation probably BOUGHT Art's show, right?  so over time ... these suits that work at the faceless corporation sit in meetings and flap their gums about shit for hours on end.  at some point, someone has to do something otherwise it will become readily apparent to everyone that those suits are in fact worthless pieces of shit.  so they issue memos.  and stuff.

so basically you have a bunch of people who have no real connection to C2C  ... no interest ... no point of reference .... making decisions about the direction of the show.  and that's why it's slowly turning into a pile of shit in front of George Noory because on paper ... he probably looked like a good idea.  but these suits don't relate to the show because they are NOT the C2C audience. 

does that help?
No, not quite.  These 'faceless suits' as you call them have an agenda.  It appears they want to dumb down America and the world even more than they are already dumbed down.  Or perhaps ultimately they have a more nefarious reason?  Who are the guests that don't get on C2C anymore or only in a limited fashion?  The somewhat shady, but not without some merit, Alex Jones.  Who is treated (by George Noory, as well as others there) with a degree of disrespect?  Richard C. Hoagland, and even Linda Moulton-Howe to some degree.  They both have been apparently told to zip it with regard to some subjects, in my opinion.  George treats Richard C. like he runs off at the mouth for no reason and has cut off Linda Howe in a rude way for having a 'poor phone' connection, when I didn't hear anything wrong with her phone!  She said almost nothing that night.  She asked him when the next time she could talk about the bees situation (there were some new theories), as well as other subject matter, and George told her "the next time you're scheduled to be on!"  You could almost hear him call her a b!+@^.  She was next scheduled to be on a month away!  And she did not actually talk about those subjects the next time she was on with George!  But, you know who did let her talk?  Whitley Strieber from http://www.unknowncountry.com.  They have a free online radio program every Saturday called Dreamland.  I never miss it.  If you have the money to subscribe to his program, which includes archives, private chat sessions and product discounts, he is smaller than C2C and could use the money to keep his program going.  It's not owned by a huge conglomerate, like Clear Channel is.  Money well spent.
i don't know.  to me, that's a pretty tough sell to ask for money ($40 per year) to listen to a podcast, even if it is really good. 


i know it's just a matter of opinion, and mine certainly is blessed with no assumption of inherent correctness, but i've never even been able to stomach strieber as either a guest or a host.  first off, his voice just grates on me with its monotone flatness and its pendulum cadence.  he makes me so bored and sleepy.  furthermore, when he and art both got on the whole superstorm kick, that really sealed the deal for me as far as strieber is concerned (alien probes aside), and it even dropped art back a few notches for me as well.  it wouldn't have been a problem if they'd presented it as just a good fictional story written by two men with a lifelong interest in the unusual.  however, they went so far beyond that, presenting the superstorm book as some sort of scientifically legitimate glimpse of what awaits us; a clarion call.  neither man has the credentials to make such an assertion, nor is there any historical precedent to suggest they were even in the right ballpark.  i'm growing a bit fatigued with people making money off of the whole "green" fad.

So, you can still listen to the weekly radio show for free.

I know what you mean about Whitley, but I must say that a bit (or maybe a lot) of ego is normal for famous people.  Art, George, Ian - they all have an ego problem to varying degrees.  I know what you mean about Whitley's affected way of speaking.  Unfortunately, in my effort to speak properly and lose the 'accent,' I now have an affected way of speaking that I seem unable to lose entirely.  I have to really concentrate on it.  So, please don't be too hard on me (or Whitley) for that.

As for The Superstorm, I also thought, what are these guys doing?  They are not experts!  I'm pretty sure they based their 'idea' that this has happened in the past on that Siberian wooly mammoth, found with buttercups in his mouth (or digestive tract).  He really does exist.  Also, there are tons of these mammoths, and many were found standing upright (not in bogs).  I am guessing their research lead them to a webpage like this one:  http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/fit/chapter1.asp] [url]http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/fit/chapter1.asp[/url].  There is a bit there that adds some understanding to this case:
QuoteThey wondered how the stomach contents remained half decayed while the animals froze? This is a problem since it takes a long time to freeze an animal as large as an elephant. A quick freeze came to mind. Birds Eye Frozen Foods Company ran the calculations and came up with a staggering â€"150°F (â€"100°C). Once again, the scientists were puzzled. How could such temperatures be reached on earth, especially when apparently they were in a fairly temperate environment before the quick freeze?

I also, am no Paleoclimatologist, but I think there was more than one facet of the events leading to the mammoth ending up in the icy Siberian tundra, flash frozen.

I do agree with you about the money thing, too.
#30
Quote from: b_dubb on September 28, 2010, 08:50:14 PM
so a faceless corporation probably BOUGHT Art's show, right?  so over time ... these suits that work at the faceless corporation sit in meetings and flap their gums about shit for hours on end.  at some point, someone has to do something otherwise it will become readily apparent to everyone that those suits are in fact worthless pieces of shit.  so they issue memos.  and stuff.

so basically you have a bunch of people who have no real connection to C2C  ... no interest ... no point of reference .... making decisions about the direction of the show.  and that's why it's slowly turning into a pile of shit in front of George Noory because on paper ... he probably looked like a good idea.  but these suits don't relate to the show because they are NOT the C2C audience. 

does that help?
No, not quite.  These 'faceless suits' as you call them have an agenda.  It appears they want to dumb down America and the world even more than they are already dumbed down.  Or perhaps ultimately they have a more nefarious reason?  Who are the guests that don't get on C2C anymore or only in a limited fashion?  The somewhat shady, but not without some merit, Alex Jones.  Who is treated (by George Noory, as well as others there) with a degree of disrespect?  Richard C. Hoagland, and even Linda Moulton-Howe to some degree.  They both have been apparently told to zip it with regard to some subjects, in my opinion.  George treats Richard C. like he runs off at the mouth for no reason and has cut off Linda Howe in a rude way for having a 'poor phone' connection, when I didn't hear anything wrong with her phone!  She said almost nothing that night.  She asked him when the next time she could talk about the bees situation (there were some new theories), as well as other subject matter, and George told her "the next time you're scheduled to be on!"  You could almost hear him call her a b!+@^.  She was next scheduled to be on a month away!  And she did not actually talk about those subjects the next time she was on with George!  But, you know who did let her talk?  Whitley Strieber from http://www.unknowncountry.com.  They have a free online radio program every Saturday called Dreamland.  I never miss it.  If you have the money to subscribe to his program, which includes archives, private chat sessions and product discounts, he is smaller than C2C and could use the money to keep his program going.  It's not owned by a huge conglomerate, like Clear Channel is.  Money well spent.
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