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Quote from: twiki on December 19, 2015, 04:58:38 PM

The hugs on this site are so nauseating that I need a hug.

Aww, hugs, Twiki! 

Quote from: Ciardelo on December 19, 2015, 04:53:58 PM
{{{bNw}}}

Hugs right back atcha, Mister C. 

Quote from: twiki on December 19, 2015, 04:54:20 PM
I was under the assumption that Art got Heather to call that one in. That's even stranger. How could you not file a report about a direct threat on your life or even call it in yourself. That is bizarre.

Keith also said he was involved in some way, I do believe.  I'd have to go back through my posts, or just listen to last night's show again.  He talked about it.

Quote from: Ciardelo on December 19, 2015, 04:43:09 PM
Oh yeah, I was teasing back. Sorry I forgot to put some of these in there: 

Sometimes I forget, so here's some of these: 

And some winky big grin ones: 

Here's one of these but i can't imagine needing it for you: 

And for when your hubby isn't looking: 

OK? 

Now that I can breathe again!    

Quote from: csummers on December 19, 2015, 04:41:38 PM
I think most people are just being honest, its not a good show with Heather as the host. This website is never kind in how it treats people with reviews,  so its not special treatment she is getting.  I find more dishonesty from the posters who are cheering her on and telling her she is going such a great job, when they know deep down she is not.

If Heather was not a popular member of the bellgab forum, and was just parachuted down into the host job a week ago, the majority of her biggest supporters on here would be singing the same tune the detractors are. She is a nice woman, but her radio show is not very good.

I don't know her, never chatted with her on here, didn't care for her sharing the spotlight with Art on the first show... hardly her fault.  It's also not her fault that she' s not Art Bell. I'm thinking it's only been a week, so some will say give her more time. Others are much too fond of Art to want to hear anyone else take the mic.  (That's me.. which again, is my "deal", not Heather's). She's kinda between a rock and a hard place. She'll win people over, or she won't.  Does she deserve a chance? I dunno. I mean, does anybody deserve a chance? How does one respond to that?   Does she deserve "shit"? No, I don't think so.  All I know for cetain is that I'm sure as hell not going to switch to C2C. 

Quote from: Ciardelo on December 19, 2015, 04:39:34 PM
So you say bNw, so you say...

not legit info anyway.  I mean, I know the first person I'd point to.. but I'd get the pants sued off me if I typed it.

Ciardelo, I was just teasing you.    I'm sure you figured that out.  I hope.

Quote from: norland2424 on December 19, 2015, 04:36:09 PM
i foresee people giving up false names just to collect money from Art.

Which means that in order for this to work the way it should, such info needs to be turned over to the police, investigated, verified, and then the person(s) responsible are arrested and convicted. THEN Joe Blow gets his 20K. That might be a while.. But it's a start.

Quote from: Segundus on December 19, 2015, 04:26:59 PM
Well, the police can't do anything if the guy does not file reports with them.  It's not that they are not cooperating, but that he's resisting. 

I don't know, Art looks more and more like a lot of superficial razzle-dazzle with little underneath.  I am so disappointed to  be seeing this side of him.

The whole entire situation, from A to Z, is disappointing.  At best.

Quote from: Segundus on December 19, 2015, 04:29:45 PM
If Art refuses to file reports, why should law enforcement get involved?  Art should put his money with the experts, not offer it to us.  He should be cooperating with officials, but is not.

This is what's confusing me. Did Art ever say he refused?  I honestly don't recall, so I'm asking.  If your kid is in fear for her life, wouldn't you feel a desire to get the cops involved?

99.99% of us can't offer info anyway, I'm guessing.   

Before it goes nuts in here again...

I can't hear this song w/out thinking of the good ol' radio days of Art Bell.




https://youtu.be/zhRzORqNa0E

Quote from: Ciardelo on December 19, 2015, 04:04:31 PM
I wonder if somebody might have a google aerial map of the property? Where would we go to get one?

Somebody needs a spanking, Ciardelo. I think it's you. 



Is it just me, or did anyone think Art was being sarcastic when he posted that? I did, for a minute.  But it's officially on his FB now, so I guess it's the real deal.

At this point, with what little info the police have on this person (or persons), and a whole slew of crazy AB fans out there to pick from (spanning many decades of listeners), they're not going to put up a reward.  And clearly, they can't do any more.  Regardless of what should have been done, or what we think Art should have done (and when), I'd imagine he's got about as good a chance as anyone else to get info.

Quote from: Segundus on December 19, 2015, 03:59:14 PM
Look, I don't know what goes on in that guy's mind. 
I look at the facts.
Everything we actually have, most of it at least, are things we've heard from his mouth, and when it comes time to take serious action, get professionals involved, he backs out.
This is why some are saying he just did not want the drag of doing a nightly show any longer and this was a good excuse to bow out.  The threat either is not there or is WAY exaggerated by him. 

I don't say nothing happened, just that he says a lot, there is almost no collaboration and he discourages expert help. 

Now he's offering a reward.  If he's throwing money around, file police reports and hire detectives, people who actually CAN help.  He seems very shrewd and manipulative.

To be honest, I actually thought he was being sarcastic when he threw that out there.. but now that he's posted it on FB, I guess he's serious.

The police don't have enough info to go off of, for sure.. so they're not going to offer a reward.  They don't even know who would go after Art, because it's Art Bell. He's got who knows how many whack jobs who'd like to get on his property and peep in his windows, or who knows what else. This is the king of late night paranoia, going on what.. 30+ years now? I don't even know.  So at this point, Art is calling the shots. 

Quote from: Roswells, Art on December 19, 2015, 04:00:22 PM
Get ready for a bunch of fortune hunters milling around your property Art.

The idiot or idiots responsible may still blab their mouths off..  hopefully. I mean, who else can say they took Art Bell off the air?  Seems pretty brag-worthy. 

I hope that works, Art. 

Quote from: Dr Who on December 19, 2015, 03:40:54 PM
Well ask Santa and you never know what might happen,George Noory may even bring it dowb the chimney to you.

As long as Santa doesn't look like George Noory.. 

Quote from: Ciardelo on December 19, 2015, 03:43:46 PM
yeah but I think they probably wear camo pants and play softball...I still use my old trusty CCRadio it still has the obsolete TV bands on it. I was going to get the internet version but as it appears, I don't need to.

If your hubby is running a Plex server he can probably use a Roku or something to use TV to listen to the audio.

Yeah, we have a few of those around here.  

Quote from: zeebo on December 19, 2015, 03:37:52 PM
The idea of one day hearing live Art Bell through my trusty C. Crane radio is one I just can't quite abandon. 

My biggest problem - til the show as we knew it was shot to hell - was which C. Crane radio to buy. I mean, my god! The choices! I'm just a girl.. I don't get radios the way you men do. (Not to be sexist. I'm sure a lot of lovely ladies here know more than I do about electronics) 

Quote from: zeebo on December 19, 2015, 03:35:34 PM
This.  (The rest is all noise by comparison.)

+1,000

Quote from: Dr Who on December 19, 2015, 03:28:41 PM
The only lab Art will have running will be one to tinker c crane radios.

I was gonna buy one for my husband this Christmas, to listen to the show. 

You've put more than $$ into your show- you've obviously put a lot of blood, sweat and tears into everything you've done on the radio over the years.  I don't think anybody can truly argue that you haven't.   


I came here to commiserate with the rest of my fellow (disappointed) listeners.    It's been bumpy as hell in here. But I think it's because we really wanted to go on another (long) wild ride with you.

Quote from: Segundus on December 19, 2015, 03:02:03 PM
Who knows what's a conspiracy here and what was real?

All we DO know is what's been reported officially, which is there were NO witnesses willing to give a police report on any of it, the meager things the police were permitted to do yielded nothing, and that Art took pains to limit police/official involvement in the matter.

Why would you not want the police snooping around?  Either the story (or parts of it) are bogus, OR maybe he really does want to continue with the show but there's some other reason why he doesn't want the cops nosing around his property.   

I don't know where else a logical person could go with this.

Just asking to clarify, not to argue..  this makes it sound like Art went out of his way to make sure that no police were involved, which is totally not true.  Listen to his show on the 21st of October, and he mentioned repeatedly that the cops were around.  (I just replayed that show this morning).    If he wanted this hushed up, he could have tried a bit harder, no? I agree, that doesn't mean he went out of his way to file reports and get the bad guy(s) either, but I don't believe he is trying to hide something.   How (or why) would that make any sense?

Art didn't know for a fact, at least as of Oct 21st, that this person was after him. He assumed the person was, but he couldn't say for sure. He looked around the following day, and found no bullet holes.  All he has is the word of neighbors that somebody in a car drove by and fired some shots.  Later, in that same program, he did say that some lights on his property went on - which means someone was likely walking around. That might make it seem more likely the person was there specifically for Art.  The cops, I would imagine, had already left, or he would have probably clarified that on the air..  So who or what was lurking around? No idea.

That night, I think it very well could have been him deciding it wasn't that big of a deal (yet), and he didn't need to make more of it than he felt necessary.  When it continued with more incidents, then you could argue perhaps that he should have taken more steps to make sure this wasn't going to continue, or that the person couldn't get to his family. I'm not in his head. I have no idea what he was or wasn't thinking..

but again, I think you're probably off with the idea that he was specifically trying not to get the police involved, for some nefarious purpose.. like he didn't want them snooping around his property.   

maybe (as crazy as this is) when you're Art Bell, giving out all of this info as it's playing out, you feel you're already telling the cops? You're making a public statement.   

LOL


Anyhoo, got notified that my subscription renewed today.. and I was cool with that. For now, anyway. 

Quote from: nooryisawesome on December 19, 2015, 02:42:17 PM
No. I think a lot of people think Art is telling the truth but also feel Art doesn't want to do a show full time.

Which would be totally cool, if that's what he wanted.. and just said so.


*Countdown 'til daddy comes home

begins NOW!...*

Quote from: zeebo on December 19, 2015, 01:17:34 PM
Attn: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost ... You're on SIT tonite 

Saturday - December 19, 2015
6-10pm PT: Art Bell - Somewhere in Time returns to 7/30/97 when Native American elder Robert Ghostwolf addressed what the weird weather really means.

nice! 

Quote from: Uncle Duke on December 19, 2015, 09:43:34 AM
Please reread my post, I did not mention the events of the 21st in any way.  I'm strictly commenting on the alleged death threat call of 19 Nov and Art's actions (or lack thereof) that particular evening.

I'll have to skip ahead to the show where I assume he refers to it.


I have to wonder about how many times a person like Art has gotten calls like that in his decades in the business.  Maybe for the sake of his wife and Asia, he should have taken it (more) seriously, but he may not tend to give those much credence.  What's he gonna do if somebody threatens him? He has guns, and he claims he will exercise his right to bear arms. Now, it's easier to say what he'd do in that situation then actually having to face the reality of it, but he seemed very shaken up when he said he'd held a gun the night somebody was outside of his studio. He didn't shoot, but I don't think he wanted to, either.   Who knows what he would have done if he'd have needed to. He might have taken time off just to deal with that.

Quote from: Uncle Duke on December 19, 2015, 09:36:02 AM
Assuming that sheriff's press release is both genuine and accurate, I'm perplexed by Art's actions relative to the alleged phone threat.  First, Art received a death threat against his family for that evening, yet declined to speak with LEOs, referring them to a producer located (assumingly) off-site?  He also declined to file an official police report,
and in doing so apparently precluding LEOs from getting a court order to attempt to find the blocked phone number?

I don't know a whole lot about the phone call, but Art repeatedly mentioned that he thought the cops were in the area after shots were fired on the 21st of October. So if neighbors were there reporting it, Art didnt' necessarily need to.  He figured they'd handled it, and he couldn't prove the nut was after him.

Quote from: Stardust Ancestor on December 19, 2015, 09:30:09 AM
Awesome, thank you.

No problem. Editing my post as I listen, as he mentions the situation.

Quote from: Stardust Ancestor on December 19, 2015, 09:16:46 AM
Ok thanks, it's odd because I don't recall that occurring.

OK.  Listen to the show on October 21st, with Dr. William Forschten.  Go to the 1hr 19m  mark. (I skipped ahead to just after an hour into the show, because he said the following night that this was all happening around 10:30pm or so, his time. So if something happened before that, I'm not sure). 

He asked Dr. Forschten to hold on for a minute.  He came back and said that there were shots fired in his area.  Somebody driving by, probably drunk, probably hunting for him. Quite a number of shots fired, police on their way.  Art called home and everybody was safe. He said to the listeners that they are well armed, and that his wife is a good shot.   He said all of the neighbors heard it. 


Pretty sure he goes off again at least one more time, and I will edit this post to add that when I hear it.


1h 22m, he is apparently getting more messages about the situation, and mentions it on the air.  Says 4 minutes later than he's monitoring the situation via text.

1 hr 27m in, Art asks the Dr. to stand by again.  He just got news that his back sensor light has gone on, which probably means that somebody set it off (this is what Art said). He's going to play music and go check it out.  When he came back, he said he's very well armed. He said he would assume that by now, the cops are all over the place.  (He does seem flustered).

1 hr 30m, Art mentioned after a break that the cops were everywhere, and that he was busy confirming that fact.  He said "just a whole bunch of shots fired out there", and then he grumbled.  "My wife's over there with Asia, on the floor, lights out, that kind of deal".  "Neighbors up in arms, in more ways than one".


http://darkmatterdigitalnetwork.com/wed-oct-21-dr-william-forstchen/

Quote from: Stardust Ancestor on December 19, 2015, 09:12:09 AM
I do remember him mentioning the DOS. Maybe it was a bit later that he left to investigate during the show. I will check out the archive.

I'm listening to the show just to see if it goes on and he leaves.. it's got to be either this one or the night before.. 

Art did say that he did search the property pretty well, and did not find any bullet holes. He said somebody must be trying to scare him, and then was taking down his website for a few hours. 

(Honestly the Douglas Mulhall's voice seems off from what I remember, in terms of who the guest was who was speaking with Art when he went off of the air.  We shall see).