George Noory Sucks! - The Definitive Compendium

[ShayP]

Still haven't gotten to last night's offering yet but the "john holmes" stuff is funny... at least we know Georgie-boy keeps up with his porn.

That conversation happened in the second half of Dr. Estes' time.  Also, enjoy all the banter about how Dr. Estes and Georgie-boy could be brother and sister.  Yep.  **sigh** 

[Zircon]

Tell me about it. I myself slid down the excitement pole, and look where it got me...knocked up. 

Glad you're the one that said it and not me. Having humor at a time like this ... geez! Are you going to have a Natural Childbirth? Breathing and no drugs but with an appeaseotomy (sp? I was with my wife when she gave birth to each of ours. With the first one, our son, I had a staggering feeling of amazement/excitement and profound guilt. "I caused this" I was thinking. I kinda felt like a real bastard as events played out. It went smoothly. I can't see how a woman can do that. I brought mother and child home the very next day.

Brothah and fellow literature lover, if you think that's wild, I'll bring a recording device with me into the delivery room and I'll post the shocking audio here - swearing like a proverbial sailor and with my head rotating like Linda Blair in 'The Exorcist'.

Jasmine, I wish you the very best and a delivery without any complications. Have you decided on a name? Do you know if the baby is a boy or girl? Is this your first? Please keep us advised on how things are going.





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[ziznak]

its a boy she said so... I want to name him Nooristopheles... which for some reason I think means the destructor of all that is Noory... could be wrong here. I should still get points for originality tho.

[Zircon]

Not getting the gender - my bad. This is what happens when you're trying to feed the fucking dog while the cat is by the computer with his nose stuck in my cup of coffee. Since when does a cat want to drink coffee? Am surprised he didn't stick his tail in it to claim the territory.

[ItsOver]

LOL! Perfect! In the above Green Acres  link (thanks for the laugh, ItsOver) an open line caller (Mr. Douglas) is the latest victim of Snorry and Tommy gouging him re costs of becoming a Coast Insider. I LOVE Green Acres.

Dahlings, I love you all here, but give me Park Avenue!

My pleasure.  Always loved Eva Gabor, as Lisa Douglas, and her malapropism. 

Lisa Douglas: [reads sign on their house saying "These Premises Condemned"] These promises commended.
Oliver Wendell Douglas: [correcting her] Uh, no. Condemned. And who condemned these promises? Uh, er - who commended the premises?
Eb Dawson: There was a fella here from the Pixley Building Authority. He said this house is too dangerous to live in.
Lisa Douglas: He's right!

Lisa Douglas: [to Oliver who's holding up an electric iron] What's that for?
Oliver Wendell Douglas: Haven't you ever used this?
Lisa Douglas: Oh yes. To hold the door open

It would have been hilarious to have Mr. Haney.....er, Snoory interview "Lisa Douglas" and see if any of us could figure out what they were trying to say.  I could see them trying to figure out such technical topics as "electricical." 

[ziznak]

Not getting the gender - my bad. This is what happens when you're trying to feed the fucking dog while the cat is by the computer with his nose stuck in my cup of coffee. Since when does a cat want to drink coffee? Am surprised he didn't stick his tail in it to claim the territory.

I actually witnessed my bestest homie drinkin iced tea yesterday... totally threw me since I've never seen him or the two girls ever drink anything other than water... they're always curious about any liquid I'm drinking but I have never seen them actually drink anything other than water... this CAN'T be a coincidence...
somebody needs to tell George

[ItsOver]

Mr. Haney from Green Acres......  Noory.......hmmmmm... both of their names end in a "y."  Could it just be a coincidence?  Yes, George, it could just be a coincidence.   :

[Morgus]

For some reason this gave me a good laugh.  Did anyone catch the part of last night's show when Noory was talking to Dr. Estes about evil and they were discussing the Aurora shooter, James Holmes.  George refered to him as John Holmes and Dr. Estes was a little hesitant in the conversation.  She corrected it by saying JAMES holmes.....Noory mumbles and catches his mistake.  He said "Yes, James.....JOHN Holmes was a porn star."  Dr. Estes during the end of that topic emphasizes "James" when saying the shooter's name.  I dunno.  It was subtle but I thought pretty funny.

yeah that part last night was funny.
shows where Noory's mind was at during the interview, day dreaming about old porn stars.

apparently Noory couldn't pronounce the guest's last name (Estes) without screwing it up so the rest of the night he just called her "Dr. E" 
in return, Dr. Estes called Noory, "Jorge" 

[Morgus]

Mr. Haney from Green Acres......  Noory.......hmmmmm... both of their names end in a "y."  Could it just be a coincidence?  Yes, George, it could just be a coincidence.   :

Somebody needs to write the lyrics to a Noory C2C  Green Acres song and submit it for Noory's bumper music - maybe it would replace the old UFO Phil song.

Green Acres is the place to be... 

[ItsOver]

Somebody needs to write the lyrics to a Noory C2C  Green Acres song and submit it for Noory's bumper music - maybe it would replace the old UFO Phil song.

Green Acres is the place to be... 

  Yes, please save us all from UFO Phil.   Jaz did a great job with a C2C "Petticoat Junction" rendition, a few posts past.  Hint, hint.........

[Jasmine]

Glad you're the one that said it and not me. Having humor at a time like this ... geez! Are you going to have a Natural Childbirth? Breathing and no drugs but with an appeaseotomy (sp? I was with my wife when she gave birth to each of ours. With the first one, our son, I had a staggering feeling of amazement/excitement and profound guilt. "I caused this" I was thinking. I kinda felt like a real bastard as events played out. It went smoothly. I can't see how a woman can do that. I brought mother and child home the very next day.
Jasmine, I wish you the very best and a delivery without any complications. Have you decided on a name? Do you know if the baby is a boy or girl? Is this your first? Please keep us advised on how things are going.

Honey, if a woman can't have humour (Canadian spelling again) at a time like this, than she's cooked! Thank you so much for your good wishes, and yes, it's a boy and yes, natural childbirth and yes, it's my first. My husband and I are very, very excited.
If all goes according to the clock, I should deliver late next week or early into the following week.

Ziznak, while I simply adore your suggested name, we've already got one picked out for the lil' critter.

My pleasure.  Always loved Eva Gabor, as Lisa Douglas, and her malapropism. 

Lisa Douglas: [reads sign on their house saying "These Premises Condemned"] These promises commended.
Oliver Wendell Douglas: [correcting her] Uh, no. Condemned. And who condemned these promises? Uh, er - who commended It would have been hilarious to have Mr. Haney.....er, Snoory interview "Lisa Douglas" and see if any of us could figure out what they were trying to say.  I could see them trying to figure out such technical topics as "electricical." 

Now that would be quite the interview, eh? And throw in some of Lisa's infamous hotcakes. In high school, my economics teacher was a wheezing geezer; his voice was quite reminiscent of Mr. Haney's. I could never get through that class without erupting in giggles.

Somebody needs to write the lyrics to a Noory C2C  Green Acres song and submit it for Noory's bumper music - maybe it would replace the old UFO Phil song.

Green Acres is the place to be... 

Indeed. And to facilitate the songwriter along in revising the lyrics for C2C, here we go...

Green Acres Intro

[Sardondi]

...Sardondi, my precious, if yesterday or today was the day, do you truly believe I'd be posting here? Did you have visions of moi furiously typing out my drivel on my laptop placed above my watermelon tummy (and trying to balance said device) whilst being wheeled into the delivery room on a gurney? Next week is my due date! Many thanks for the good thoughts. ....

Sounds like you know these things can take awhile. So you probably know folks do odd things waiting for the Obstetrics Gatekeeper to tell you it's finally okay to come on in (time to go to the hospital is getting closer and closer to the point when baby's hair is just peaking out - it's like they'd love to get birth down to a 45-minute outpatient visit). Now, mind, my participation has been indirect, but I've hung around a few, and we were always ready to go to the hospital far sooner than the doc was ready to see us. So we had to find stuff to do....like checking out rants about George Noory.

[Jasmine]

  Yes, please save us all from UFO Phil.   Jaz did a great job with a C2C "Petticoat Junction" rendition, a few posts past.  Hint, hint.........

It'sOver, here's what my feeble brain came up with so far re revised Green Acres lyrics...

Coast to Coast is the place to be
Misinformation is the life for me
Malapropisms spreadin’ out so far and wide
Keep C. Hoagland and place him in formaldehyde  

Turmeric is what I need in me
Had quite enough of the Monsanto fields of Tennessee
I just adore Catherine Austin Fitts
Georgie I loathe you get off the air you’re the shits


The hosting chores!
The St. Louis whores!
On the air!
Billy Mumy’s there!

Common sense is leaving me
Goodbye, rationality
Coast to Coast we are there.

[Jasmine]

Sounds like you know these things can take awhile. So you probably know folks do odd things waiting for the Obstetrics Gatekeeper to tell you it's finally okay to come on in (time to go to the hospital is getting closer and closer to the point when baby's hair is just peaking out - it's like they'd love to get birth down to a 45-minute outpatient visit). Now, mind, my participation has been indirect, but I've hung around a few, and we were always ready to go to the hospital far sooner than the doc was ready to see us. So we had to find stuff to do....like checking out rants about George Noory.

My husband is excited but very  nervous about timing re driving to the hospital, etc. He and my parents have "rehearsed" the routine of getting me to Margaret Atwood's Handmaid's Tale Delivery Room without a hitch...and all I can think of is the classic 'I Love Lucy' episode when Ricky, Ethel, and Fred freak when Lucy actually goes into labour.
Checking out Noory rants at the hospital will no doubt give me a chuckle. Checking out an actual Noory interview will no doubt induce labour! Aaaah!

[HorrorReporter]

Call me lazy, but i didn't really see any reference to this, but didn't look hard enough perhaps.
Did we talk on here about Georgie stating ,"*gasp* is this the Apocalypse...?" during his Iran 'hour' the other night?

[Jasmine]

Call me lazy, but i didn't really see any reference to this, but didn't look hard enough perhaps.
Did we talk on here about Georgie stating ,"*gasp* is this the Apocalypse...?" during his Iran 'hour' the other night?

Not to my knowledge, but I heard him pose the question, and I swear his voice raised by one and a half octaves. One could detect the macabre glee in George as he was hoping, praying, that William Forstchen would respond with a resounding "YES!". Impending doom lights up George's night sky like Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I also loved how Forstchen kept referring to the Russians as "the Soviets", thereby totally confusing the audience in regards to timelines when he claimed the Soviets (2012 - Russians) had parked a nuclear sub in the Gulf of Mexico. Noory never even caught the error - the guest corrected himself.

[kf5iwe]

 I live here in South Louisiana very near the Gulf. Russians/Soviets same same to me. Same guy in charge now as then Putin. Same goals. Same tools and activities. I remeber the crap they pulled in Serbia back when clinton was bombing there. Same crap the pulled in Georgia a few years ago.
On a lighter note Good luck with the birth

[Sardondi]

yeah that part last night was funny. shows where Noory's mind was at during the interview, day dreaming about old porn stars....

George was trying out his own porn name: "Long Georgie Wadd". Do you think George knows Holmes regularly did gay films too?

...He and my parents have "rehearsed" the routine of getting me to Margaret Atwood's Handmaid's Tale Delivery Room without a hitch...

Heh. Goin' to the Stigmata Wing of the WOmen's Center. Where staff occasionally play jokes on new parents by listing the mother's name on her baby's ID bracelet as "Rosemary"; or going on the loudspeaker and paging "Dr. Damien - it's all for you!" Where those dads who prefer waiting instead of watching can do so in The Constantine Room.

[Eddie Coyle]

Do you think George knows Holmes regularly did gay films too?

Leading to his 1988 death from botulism..."bad meat in the can"

[stevesh]

Excellent first two hours last night. Mark Edward has written a book about the charlatans and frauds in the psychic and medium communities, and apparently thought he was there to be interviewed by an engaged host who had read his book and wanted to discuss it. Instead, he got Simple George.

Mr. Edward tried hard, but had trouble at times concealing his contempt for Noory, the idiot callers and the whole C2C experience. Several times, he said, "That doesn't have anything to do with my book".

At one point, Noory dragged out his infamous aunt, Shaquille Amygdala, and after Noory explained about who she was, and how she died and that she 'might have solved all these mysteries' if she had lived longer, there was five seconds of dead air, with the guest finally asking, "Hello?". Noory said he was waiting for Mr. Edward to comment on his aunt, which the guest  obviously had no desire to do.

The show ended with Simple George inviting himself to one of Mr. Edward's performances at the Magic Castle. The guest's lack of enthusiasm for that ever happening was palpable.

Classic SG self-obsession, and Mark Edward is my new favorite C2C guest, though I'm sure he'll never be on again.

[Ben Shockley]

Excellent first two hours last night... Classic SG self-obsession, and Mark Edward is my new favorite C2C guest, though I'm sure he'll never be on again.

From what you describe, I'm surprised that he lasted 2 hours.   I guess none of the usual go-to guests were willing to take the calls Team Noory probably started making 30 minutes into the Edward segment, and Tommy or the designated intern forgot to bring the Football (a.k.a. a recorded bit of Fanthorpe or someone dead).
I'd like to say that I'll listen to this last show, but I'm just too disgusted by Noory to listen to someone else get disgusted by him.

[Roger]

I love the fact we are able to talk about an idiotic and obviously controlled medium. I like that we talk about it. What mystifies me is that, beyond mocking it for the joys of seeing how silly it is, we still think we're going to change it while still listening to it. Are you frickin' kidding me? But the answer will always be: what else is there to do? What else to listen to? As IF, by complaining, the enemies of free radio will EVER succumb to public dissatisfaction!  No! They are always going to ignore popular demand or desires since popular desires is for free information.   Free entertainment. Free energy. Everything free. People free.   Abundance. These people don't understand this urge. They only see limits on everything and taking advantage of limited resources and sequestering every resource for their limited population. The 'listeners' are a threat-factor. Factual information has to be reduced to doubtfulness or some dichotomy of 'beliefs' so as to dissipate any accumulation of awareness of being USED and abused.

'Nothing is a coincidence' is the preferential phrase of the current 'master'.   Meaning means no meaning and information has some meaning far back in time or some forward intention. Nothing to bother about, no reason to deduce anything local or current.  It's 'Divine will'. go with the flow.

Okay, then why listen to the radio?

[McPhallus]

Okay, then why listen to the radio?

Because it's background noise, a distraction.  Something that cuts out the silence that threatens to drown us in our own thoughts and internal dialogue.  And it's a common ground, something to talk about.  And, increasingly, an anachronism.

As for "free," there are podcasts for that, where literally anything goes.  At least as long as the podcaster is willing to do it for "free" since the commercial value may be limited. 

[Roger]

There are not anywhere near enough channels for the hungry ears extant.  What has, HAS to happen is independent proliferation of voices with relevant information AND opinion so that the 'radio dial' can have a spectrum of choices as to both what they would LIKE to hear as well as what they do not like.  Otherwise there is no possibility of freedom of choice. There can be no 'selection' nor possibility of a 'vote'.

Right now, we have no 'vote'. We are restricted to a highly restricted spectrum that amounts to nothing more than deciding between evils.  Less evil, greater evil.  It still amounts to just evils as a spectrum. Or should I say a spectrum of just one opinion.  Left or right of a single limited scope of ideation?

For goodness' sake, we ought to have open channels for all possible voices, but instead we are reduced to 'closest matches'.

This is not what the USA is based upon. We were, once, brave. Devoted to a belief that kindness and justice and honesty could be a principle of a new culture. Yet some still maintain nothing of the kind can proceed without slavery. Imagine that. That's what's still going on.

[Roger]

Because it's background noise, a distraction.  Something that cuts out the silence that threatens to drown us in our own thoughts and internal dialogue.  And it's a common ground, something to talk about.  And, increasingly, an anachronism.

As for "free," there are podcasts for that, where literally anything goes.  At least as long as the podcaster is willing to do it for "free" since the commercial value may be limited. 

I'm in agreement about the idea that personal thoughts can be a 'trap'. Okay, how can anyone get out of such a trap via an intentionally manipulative maze? What if the 'alternative' of internal reasoning is simply a channel towards something your own conscience, otherwise, would not allow you to do?

Do you know anything about hypnosis? Propaganda?

Our national creation is not a simple story.  We know this because at one point we came face to face with the dichotomy of two streams of conscience and thought. One stream of thinking lead to a rationalization of separation from a 'Crown'; and the other saw slavery of human beings (or as they justified it, non-human beings) as a reasonable means for wealth . . . crown related or not.

Both streams of thought continue unto this day.

Both streams have their 'champions'.

Washington, Franklin and Jefferson envisioned an America in which all citizens had grounds enough to grow all they needed and trade and work based on the joy of creation and sharing. Their mortal enemy Hamilton, the foster-father of the Bushes and all the rich-sons-of-bitches wearing blue-suits and red ties wanting to remarry into british monarchy and repatriate into that system of the crown, have continued to push for slavery and class distinctions. A caste system.  One side wanted equal wealth and education highly disparate from the 'old world order', the other side wants the old world order to continue.

What happens?  The old world order adopts the phrase "New World Order".  A phrase once rebellious has now been co-opted and means the exact opposite. Confusion is the name of the game or the psy-ops game.

It amounts to the same thing: a limited intellect and limited emotional maturity reacts to an advancing consciousness.

I see no reason to be retributive.  I think it better to laugh. And to forget. Attention is food for a bad seed. To forget is the best form of forgiveness.  The cow of life has no idea who or even when someone broke her legs, one after the other. Modern internetters have one leg to stand on. Better use it to the best advantage and not be like what they hate.

[Jasmine]

Excellent first two hours last night. Mark Edward has written a book about the charlatans and frauds in the psychic and medium communities, and apparently thought he was there to be interviewed by an engaged host who had read his book and wanted to discuss it. Instead, he got Simple George.

Mr. Edward tried hard, but had trouble at times concealing his contempt for Noory, the idiot callers and the whole C2C experience. Several times, he said, "That doesn't have anything to do with my book".

The show ended with Simple George inviting himself to one of Mr. Edward's performances at the Magic Castle. The guest's lack of enthusiasm for that ever happening was palpable.

Classic SG self-obsession, and Mark Edward is my new favorite C2C guest, though I'm sure he'll never be on again.

Alas, there are a plethora of legitimate and intelligent guests, who, as "victims" of the corporate controlled media, agree to their C2C gigs as they have few other viable outlets for their opinions and theories to be heard. I also suspect there are many who are somewhat apprehensive to be on the show in regards to their reputations and standing within their respective vocational relams being subject to scrutiny - I could very well be wrong here, but I've pondered this. Me also thinks there are some anti-C2C folks who automatically negate a guest simply due to the fact that he/she is conversing with Noory, which is most unfortunate; many listen, yet they don't hear the viable guest.

At one point, Noory dragged out his infamous aunt, Shaquille Amygdala, and after Noory explained about who she was, and how she died and that she 'might have solved all these mysteries' if she had lived longer, there was five seconds of dead air, with the guest finally asking, "Hello?". Noory said he was waiting for Mr. Edward to comment on his aunt, which the guest  obviously had no desire to do.

And this no doubt infuriated Noory, to my utter delight. Ah yes, the Wrath of Chaka Khan as she sets out to enlighten the world of myriad of mysteries.

[Roger]

To McPhallus:

So you think "pod-casts" may be the 'back-fence' or future of sharing info?  What is the ease of tuning into them or how does one to get them? . . . I don't even know what they are. What are they?

[Jasmine]

There are not anywhere near enough channels for the hungry ears extant.  What has, HAS to happen is independent proliferation of voices with relevant information AND opinion so that the 'radio dial' can have a spectrum of choices as to both what they would LIKE to hear as well as what they do not like.  Otherwise there is no possibility of freedom of choice. There can be no 'selection' nor possibility of a 'vote'.

Right now, we have no 'vote'. We are restricted to a highly restricted spectrum that amounts to nothing more than deciding between evils.  Less evil, greater evil.  It still amounts to just evils as a spectrum. Or should I say a spectrum of just one opinion.  Left or right of a single limited scope of ideation?

For goodness' sake, we ought to have open channels for all possible voices, but instead we are reduced to 'closest matches'.

This is not what the USA is based upon. We were, once, brave. Devoted to a belief that kindness and justice and honesty could be a principle of a new culture. Yet some still maintain nothing of the kind can proceed without slavery. Imagine that. That's what's still going on.

My mind is a rambling rose this morning; hopefully my thoughts will be presented as being coherent...

As many of us know, during the Soviet era (and continuing in Russia), the populace was subject to the ideaologies, dogma, and double-speak of the encumbents housed in the Kremlin and those who ran the official Soviet news agency, TASS. As government and media moguls in the former Soviet Union (and again, Russia today) knew very well, they could not control what the public thought, yet they could effectively control what the public thought about. Yet we cannot credit TASS with this policy and the subseuqent and self-serving (to the Kremlin and KGB) critical path it created (and sustained - both then and today); throughout the annals of the history of regimes this filtered control has been perhaps the prime factor re longevity of many an empire. And as we all know, history is not so much one thing followed by another which is conducive to linear time and timelines - it is in effect the same damn thing over and over again.

During the Cold War era, those in the western world were perpetually conditioned (read; subjugated) to ingest, assimilate, and accept (without questioning - for questioning any policy was anathema to state and church, therefore deemed unpatriotic, and Buddha forbid anyone who had/has the mind to refute the "guidance" offered by their respective nanny state)  the spin spun out by western media outlets. In short, Europeans, Americans, Canadians, etc. were the good, noble, righteous guys; the Soviets were continously painted and portrayed as the vanquishers, the destroyers of democracy...or, as a certain TV generation deemed it, "truth, justice, and the American way". Countless westerners drank the NBC/ABC/CBS/Cronkite kool-aid, and continue to do so. Whether it be TASS, its contemporary Russian descendant, CNN, Fox (Faux) etc., the foundation and walls and doors and windows and principles are mirrored. "To know thy enemy is to know thyself"

Tehran, Baghdad, Beijing, Boston, Montreal...the news is presented with how the giants of industry wish for it to be presented. No great change, no reformation of any nation's policies has been brought about by its sitting governments; it has been, and shall always be the people who implement said reformation. It's all about self-empowerment and the acknowledgment that we ourselves bring about change; yet sadly, far too many are the docile sheep led by corporate-global minded ones who obtain power. We foolishly believe a new political candidate will be the answer to our prayers and respective national ills, yet history has proven that nothing, nothing at all is really changed with a change of office. It's the same damn thing over and over again, and our collective memories are - much to our detriment - far too short-term.

I'm in agreement about the idea that personal thoughts can be a 'trap'. Okay, how can anyone get out of such a trap via an intentionally manipulative maze? What if the 'alternative' of internal reasoning is simply a channel towards something your own conscience, otherwise, would not allow you to do?

Do you know anything about hypnosis? Propaganda?

Our national creation is not a simple story.  We know this because at one point we came face to face with the dichotomy of two streams of conscience and thought. One stream of thinking lead to a rationalization of separation from a 'Crown'; and the other saw slavery of human beings (or as they justified it, non-human beings) as a reasonable means for wealth . . . crown related or not.

Both streams of thought continue unto this day.

Both streams have their 'champions'.

Washington, Franklin and Jefferson envisioned an America in which all citizens had grounds enough to grow all they needed and trade and work based on the joy of creation and sharing. Their mortal enemy Hamilton, the foster-father of the Bushes and all the rich-sons-of-bitches wearing blue-suits and red ties wanting to remarry into british monarchy and repatriate into that system of the crown, have continued to push for slavery and class distinctions. A caste system.  One side wanted equal wealth and education highly disparate from the 'old world order', the other side wants the old world order to continue. What happens?  The old world order adopts the phrase "New World Order".  A phrase once rebellious has now been co-opted and means the exact opposite. Confusion is the name of the game or the psy-ops game. It amounts to the same thing: a limited intellect and limited emotional maturity reacts to an advancing consciousness.[/b]I see no reason to be retributive.  I think it better to laugh. And to forget. Attention is food for a bad seed. To forget is the best form of forgiveness.  The cow of life has no idea who or even when someone broke her legs, one after the other. Modern internetters have one leg to stand on. Better use it to the best advantage and not be like what they hate.

Well said, and so true. Thomas Paine forewarned the masses of the potential and inherent dangers that lay lurking in The Age of Reason  and The Rights of Man, to name but two of his prolific works.

"It is necessary to the happiness of man that he be mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what one does not believe. It is impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I may so express it, that mental lying has produced in society. When man has so far corrupted and prostituted the chastity of his mind, as to subscribe his professional belief to things he does not believe, he has prepared himself for the commission of every other crime."  - Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason

[Roger]

i think your thoughts are rational and also think 'rambling' thoughts are valuable.  the scope of what there is to consider and to judge or measure being as vast as what they are, 'rambling' isn't a fault, but practically obligatory . . . just to cover their scope.  I appreciate every word. I appreciate any word whatever. Pro or con. They inform my discretion.

[Jasmine]

Like the ancient Romans and those long before them and after, when supplies of bread run low, glorious circuses (the quintessential euphemism) are created across the globe.