Leo Ashcraft - Dark Matter News - A Long Side Knight

[K_Dubb]

Agreed.

Some of us were drawn here by the suckage and a compulsion to discuss it.  Old habits die hard.

[mcribwich]

understood lol

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

I'm from the D.C. area. Cheesehead Midwestern pronunciation puts an 'R' in Washington, i.e. 'Warshington' my pet peeve.

I usually fast forward through the Leo segments if I'm listening next day. While I get why Art does them, I'd rather he did like he did in the old days: first segment or 2 Art does his take on news, especially DM News areas.

Hey PING: I'm here to burst your bubble. NO native born Cheese-Head puts an "R" in "Washington" (or washing machine, for that matter !) The boys & girls from Indiana and Western Ohio do that. Please don't slander Cheese-Heads in such a manner. But, you are correct, I find that annoying as hell also.
Here's one for you to try. Pronounce the town of "Shawano". No out-of-stater can ever get that one right unless they've been corrected by a Cheese-Head. How about the "Keweenaw" in the U.P.. Which syllable is accentuated ? How many syllables do those two words individually have - to speak them natively? It's not as it's spelled. Most of the place names up here are from the Iroquois Nations nomenclature.
Please don't lump Cheese-heads in with the rest of the Midwest. We are our own Culture, separate from the rest of the Midwest, just as "Da Yoopers dare hey" are (from the Michigan Upper Peninsula [the U.P.]. ) 

[bellalugosi]

I think she's just. And you're a dick for fat-shaming her.

You are all awesome for calling this BS out. That's all.

[Lamont Cranston]

.... the Snorge.

the "Snorge" merits capitalization? I know, it's a proper noun and all but considering what it describes.

Either way, it is so perfect!

"the Snorge"

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

i think that's a bit of a misconception.  anyone can sue anyone for any reason, and the process of being sued can be a financial disaster, even if you ultimately prevail.

Very true MV. There are a lot of suggestions here to set up a corporation. I would say not a standard Corporation. What Art needs is a Limited Liability Corporation. There are still one or two in the U.S. that can be set up anonymously to make it harder for people to sue you. Any Prior Military  will recognize the acronym CYA. Please pm me if you need more info on this. Last time I checked, this could be set up for approximately $600.00

[albrecht]

Very true MV. There are a lot of suggestions here to set up a corporation. I would say not a standard Corporation. What Art needs is a Limited Liability Corporation. There are still one or two in the U.S. that can be set up anonymously to make it harder for people to sue you. Any Prior Military  will recognize the acronym CYA. Please pm me if you need more info on this. Last time I checked, this could be set up for approximately $600.00

Or S-Corp or something. Nevada I hear is very easy, cheap to do such things.

[MV/Liberace!]

There are still one or two in the U.S. that can be set up anonymously to make it harder for people to sue you.

then that's news to me because i've set up two corporations, and in both cases i've had to list my name as an officer of the corporation (i think that's what it's called).  but all of that aside... setting up a corporation doesn't make you harder to sue.  at all.  it merely adds a layer of protection between your personal assets and the person suing you, and the plantiff's attorney is going to try and argue against the validity of your corporation.  meanwhile, you're you're paying legal fees the whole time your court case is worming its way through the system.  the process of being sued can be financially more devastating than any civil judgement rendered against you.

as an example, read this about s-corps:
http://info.legalzoom.com/can-sued-personally-am-s-corporation-22022.html
note the "personal liability" section.

[anunnaki]

She's a fat girl trying too hard and destroying Heather and Leo in the process. Seriously, this lazy obese chick is ruining arts show. Get new people altogether. But fat Amy has to go.

How do you know she is fat?
Why don't you post her photo (with source) and prove your allegation ?

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Anyone who had an interest in Art's little internet show would have done their due diligence to see who was handling the affiliates by surreptitiously emailing to inquire and then getting an email back from Leo. Or they may have seen that the Nexus Broadcasting website was handling the affiliates and linked it back to Leo.

Then the idiots put two and two together or perhaps someone else in the industry tipped them off and they realized that this Leo guy is also Art's news guy. Well they probably thought they had hit the jackpot and decided they can try to put a spanner in the works and try to lure him away. They didn't even need to have a place for him on C2C. Just approaching him could have the desired effect of fucking with things.

Look at the effect it did have.

And yes it is entirely possible that the whole thing was a ruse by Leo. A ruse that thankfully backfired.

It's also possible that Leo, having issues with Keith, approached C2C to see if they would bite.

Hopefully it hasn't done too much damage to the whole XDS and affiliates thing and it seems that Amy is miles ahead of her predecessor in diction and pronounciation so there's that.

That's my take on this whole fiasco too Jaz. Just a tiny bit of social engineering would be all it would take.  Kevin Mitnick mentioned social engineering in Art's interview with him. This is exactly what it is peeps.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Waffle House

LMFAO
  +2

[weeberwubber]

then that's news to me because i've set up two corporations, and in both cases i've had to list my name as an officer of the corporation (i think that's what it's called).  but all of that aside... setting up a corporation doesn't make you harder to sue.  at all.  it merely adds a layer of protection between your personal assets and the person suing you, and the plantiff's attorney is going to try and argue against the validity of your corporation.  meanwhile, you're you're paying legal fees the whole time your court case is worming its way through the system.  the process of being sued can be financially more devastating than any civil judgement rendered against you.

as an example, read this about s-corps:
http://info.legalzoom.com/can-sued-personally-am-s-corporation-22022.html
note the "personal liability" section.

It also adds another layer of taxes, which makes it ultra annoying when the judge says "Your corporation is just a small business and small businesses run differently than large ones." as she's completely ignoring any protection you thought you might have had.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Or S-Corp or something. Nevada I hear is very easy, cheap to do such things.

This is even better than an S-Corp, and very few corporate lawyers know about it. It is totally anonymous and totally legal. Specialized lawyers can set this up easily. You name is NEVER attached to the corporation unless you want it to be (which pretty much defeats the purpose.) It took me months of research to find out about this, check backgrounds and legality, and make sure they are above board. They are completely legit and have been in business over 25 years. The person that has physical possession of the paperwork has ownership of the company. It's kind of along the lines of a bearer-bond. It's not a shell corporation or anything hinky. The main purpose is to thwart frivolous lawsuits in this sue-happy nation we are in.

[albrecht]

This is even better than an S-Corp, and very few corporate lawyers know about it. It is totally anonymous and totally legal. Specialized lawyers can set this up easily. You name is NEVER attached to the corporation unless you want it to be (which pretty much defeats the purpose.) It took me months of research to find out about this, check backgrounds and legality, and make sure they are above board. They are completely legit and have been in business over 25 years. The person that has physical possession of the paperwork has ownership of the company. It's kind of along the lines of a bearer-bond. It's not a shell corporation or anything hinky. The main purpose is to thwart frivolous lawsuits in this sue-happy nation we are in.

And this vehicle is here, in one of our States- not in the Isle of Man or some such location? Is it based in Wyoming? Or one of those "shelf" corporation deals?

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

then that's news to me because i've set up two corporations, and in both cases i've had to list my name as an officer of the corporation (i think that's what it's called).  but all of that aside... setting up a corporation doesn't make you harder to sue.  at all.  it merely adds a layer of protection between your personal assets and the person suing you, and the plantiff's attorney is going to try and argue against the validity of your corporation.  meanwhile, you're you're paying legal fees the whole time your court case is worming its way through the system.  the process of being sued can be financially more devastating than any civil judgement rendered against you.

as an example, read this about s-corps:
http://info.legalzoom.com/can-sued-personally-am-s-corporation-22022.html
note the "personal liability" section.

I realize most peeps don't have the time to search this kind of thing out. It is very well hidden. I'm aware you're probably busy as f*ck also. Standard corporations are not what I'm talking about. They are also not suitable for the position Art is in.
Bolded:The proxy's name is what's listed. Your name (or Arts) come nowhere near that paperwork.
I wouldn't mess with an S-Corp, not the right kind of protection. I've checked into them too.
The reason it makes you harder to sue, is because they can't sue you personally(They can, but in a civil case only.). "Your name" is not connected to the LLC.( You can't sue a ghost. ) It also operates under, and is protected by the U.C.C. The corporation takes the brunt of the lawsuit - if it can be found(extremely difficult), none of your personal assets are attached (LLC.)  It is set up specifically to stop this kind of Bravo Sierra.  Just because you haven't heard of this doesn't mean it don't exist. It's a rare MF bird - true, but it's out there. The intricacies I won't go into here. It took a shit-ton of my time and effort to find this and I will not give it away for free on an open forum. You will not find this company online through normal search channels or deepnet. There is only one way to get to them and they do that for their / their clients protection. If you are interested in details, PM me.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

And this vehicle is here, in one of our States- not in the Isle of Man or some such location? Is it based in Wyoming? Or one of those "shelf" corporation deals?

Yes.
Not a shelf corporation. Not in Wyoming (scam)
Is an LLc.
Does not require an operating agreement nor the keeping of a set of books.
Does have a manager(Proxy.)
Filed by someone skilled in the field of privacy.
No ssn's required.

I mention this to help, and will never discuss or mention it again.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

It also adds another layer of taxes, which makes it ultra annoying when the judge says "Your corporation is just a small business and small businesses run differently than large ones." as she's completely ignoring any protection you thought you might have had.

I'm talking about a totally different animal.
(sounds like you had a bad experience - sorry dude)

[albrecht]

Yes.
Not a shelf corporation. Not in Wyoming (scam)
Is an LLc.
Does not require an operating agreement nor the keeping of a set of books.
Does have a manager(Proxy.)
Filed by someone skilled in the field of privacy.
No ssn's required.

I mention this to help, and will never discuss or mention it again.

Intriguing and understand your reluctance to post such information the interwebs, for free. I would suspect that it would be hard to get around not having an EIN (assuming one is doing business) and that someone, maybe if only at the IRS, would have a link to you?

Speaking of which have you seen this? In all areas 'forces' are trying to eliminate anonymity and privacy (though most frequently the public actually PAYS and WANTS to give it away.)
http://blog.ted.com/q-and-a-with-ted-prize-winner-charmian-gooch-three-months-into-her-campaign-to-end-anonymous-companies/

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Intriguing and understand your reluctance to post such information the interwebs, for free. I would suspect that it would be hard to get around not having an EIN (assuming one is doing business) and that someone, maybe if only at the IRS, would have a link to you?

Speaking of which have you seen this? In all areas 'forces' are trying to eliminate anonymity and privacy (though most frequently the public actually PAYS and WANTS to give it away.)
http://blog.ted.com/q-and-a-with-ted-prize-winner-charmian-gooch-three-months-into-her-campaign-to-end-anonymous-companies/

No, ways are provided to handle that. This is specifically designed  privacy structuring. If you can't conduct business, it would be of no use. You keep your personal name out of all business transactions, your personal name as a signature is not used.

That article is bad news for honest peeps that just want to conduct business and maintain a semblance of privacy to keep the patent-trolls and other sue-happy fucks from targeting them. It makes it real easy to target a company that's just staying afloat and forcing them out of business with a lawsuit. Even though that push is to stop corruption, it won't, they will find other ways and loopholes. The small businesses will be the ones to suffer from that BS.
You're also right about the majority paying to give away their privacy. If that's what they want to do, fine. But, don't force it on me.

[paladin1991]

then that's news to me because i've set up two corporations, and in both cases i've had to list my name as an officer of the corporation (i think that's what it's called).  but all of that aside... setting up a corporation doesn't make you harder to sue.  at all.  it merely adds a layer of protection between your personal assets and the person suing you, and the plantiff's attorney is going to try and argue against the validity of your corporation.  meanwhile, you're you're paying legal fees the whole time your court case is worming its way through the system.  the process of being sued can be financially more devastating than any civil judgement rendered against you.

as an example, read this about s-corps:
http://info.legalzoom.com/can-sued-personally-am-s-corporation-22022.html
note the "personal liability" section.

Fucking A Skippy.  Sometimes that's the whole idea.

[albrecht]

No, ways are provided to handle that. This is specifically designed  privacy structuring. If you can't conduct business, it would be of no use. You keep your personal name out of all business transactions, your personal name as a signature is not used.

That article is bad news for honest peeps that just want to conduct business and maintain a semblance of privacy to keep the patent-trolls and other sue-happy fucks from targeting them. It makes it real easy to target a company that's just staying afloat and forcing them out of business with a lawsuit. Even though that push is to stop corruption, it won't, they will find other ways and loopholes. The small businesses will be the ones to suffer from that BS.
You're also right about the majority paying to give away their privacy. If that's what they want to do, fine. But, don't force it on me.

I think, sadly, 'they' want to eliminate, or severely curtail, small and mid-size businesses, farmers, ranchers, etc because the large corporations and international companies can fund the government and elect the politicians. They also can provide (in theory) more "stability;" less social promotion but (in theory) better stable employment of the "little people." And (in theory) can abide/pass-on the taxation and regulations that their hired politicians make into law as regulatory capture to protect their businesses.

[paladin1991]

I realize most peeps don't have the time to search this kind of thing out. It is very well hidden. I'm aware you're probably busy as f*ck also. Standard corporations are not what I'm talking about. They are also not suitable for the position Art is in.
Bolded:The proxy's name is what's listed. Your name (or Arts) come nowhere near that paperwork.
I wouldn't mess with an S-Corp, not the right kind of protection. I've checked into them too.
The reason it makes you harder to sue, is because they can't sue you personally(They can, but in a civil case only.). "Your name" is not connected to the LLC.( You can't sue a ghost. ) It also operates under, and is protected by the U.C.C. The corporation takes the brunt of the lawsuit - if it can be found(extremely difficult), none of your personal assets are attached (LLC.)  It is set up specifically to stop this kind of Bravo Sierra.  Just because you haven't heard of this doesn't mean it don't exist. It's a rare MF bird - true, but it's out there. The intricacies I won't go into here. It took a shit-ton of my time and effort to find this and I will not give it away for free on an open forum. You will not find this company online through normal search channels or deepnet. There is only one way to get to them and they do that for their / their clients protection. If you are interested in details, PM me.

Sounds like what Wyoming Registered Agent does.

You say this is a scam?  how?  why?

[albrecht]

Sounds like what Wyoming Registered Agent does.

He has said that it wasn't Wyoming (which he says is scam) and also not either the similiar type of business arrangements like Isle of Man, Cayman, Cyprus etc. Nor is it a 'shelf' company. Maybe the New Mexican one? Who knows and I can understand him not wanting it posted on public interwebs; but is intriguing.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

I think, sadly, 'they' want to eliminate, or severely curtail, small and mid-size businesses, farmers, ranchers, etc because the large corporations and international companies can fund the government and elect the politicians. They also can provide (in theory) more "stability;" less social promotion but (in theory) better stable employment of the "little people." And (in theory) can abide/pass-on the taxation and regulations that their hired politicians make into law as regulatory capture to protect their businesses.

Bingo ! A socialist collective. This is the kind of shit that turns legitimate businesses into criminal organizations. They want the middle class gone, or with so little disposable income that they can't stop the corruption. 

[PB the Deplorable]

Oh who cares.

Art is going to do what he wants to do, no matter what.  Anything else would be deemed a 'deal breaker'. 

Hopefully it works out for him, but be ready for the next dramatic episode. 


I've seen several posts about the many years he's been in the industry, and how therefore he must know it all - but that sure hasn't been the case.  He's excellent on air.  He knows how to set up and work the equipment.  He has good instincts for shows and guests.  Whether that carries over to the business side is unknown, but this is a person who didn't know better than to not sign that non-compete, didn't do his due diligence with Sirius, and who apparently had no idea the music industry is in chaos and there would be an issue with the bumper music. 

I get the feeling he's a recluse who thinks he's safer trusting people like Keith and Leo than hiring better people and seeking competent legal advise.  And that's fine, his call.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Sounds like what Wyoming Registered Agent does.

You say this is a scam?  how?  why?

The ones I checked into weren't legally viable. I only did a cursory check into them and the Wyoming law regarding them. What I saw didn't pan out.  I could very well be wrong about that as my focus was on other areas at the time. I could have also only hit some of the scam sites, it was only a cursory search as an alternative to what I was looking at at that time. 
Has it been put to the test in a court room ? If so, and it did what it was designed to do, I may have to revisit that.
Thanks for the info.

Edit: Just checked Title 17 Ch 16 Wyoming State Statutes.  (W.S 17-16-501)
Wow - has that changed.
Also  - No personal or corporate income taxes in Wyoming.
I'll have to dig deeper into this. 
It's a bit different to what I was mentioning, but very close.
For someone that wants some basic protection, this might not be half bad.
Looks like a board of directors still has to be listed, but an agent service should be able to handle that.

[paladin1991]

The ones I checked into weren't legally viable. I only did a cursory check into them and the Wyoming law regarding them. What I saw didn't pan out.  I could very well be wrong about that as my focus was on other areas at the time. I could have also only hit some of the scam sites, it was only a cursory search as an alternative to what I was looking at at that time. 
Has it been put to the test in a court room ? If so, and it did what it was designed to do, I may have to revisit that.
Thanks for the info.

I'll look at it, too.  If it doesn't give away too much of your work, I'll take your response off the air.

[albrecht]

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I'll look at it, too.  If it doesn't give away too much of your work, I'll take your response off the air.

Rumors have it that one of Obama's several possible Executive Orders re: guns will be going after some aspects of LLCs, trusts, and similar arrangements because currently (in many States) one can buy/sell/own/transfer (or in cases where necessary register) firearms through them and he thinks this is some end-around for people to get firearms who shouldn't have them; which is absurd, and considering we give/sell them away to cartel members or radical Muslims under his various schemes and programs, I think ridiculous. Your average criminal is not going through the process of setting up legal companies or trusts so he can get a firearm: he going to steal it from somebody, get it from a Federal Agent (like illegal who killed Kate Steinle or from an Obama Fast&Furious type program,) or buy it on the street. He not consulting attorneys and accountants and setting up legal vehicles to obtain firearms! But honest, law-abiding people might for perfectly legal reasons.

[HedgehogNorman]

He should volunteer for the clinical tests for retroactive birth control.

He could be part of the study on post-term abortions!

[Keykou]

Competition makes everyone better and there is a lot of weird stuff most shows won't touch.

If he forgets about fluff interviews and old worn out subjects he may find a place at the table.