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Started by Rix Gins, January 01, 2016, 08:20:14 PM

WOTR

Quote from: K_Dubb on August 11, 2019, 06:51:34 AM
Another case of strangely resilient men who all survived ejection! 
Proof that either:

1. Seat belts kill
or
2. Men used to be more robust.*

*I'm on the right board to wonder if we were less frail when we were closer to our Anunnaki roots?

Rix Gins

Quote from: WOTR on August 12, 2019, 12:12:05 AM
Proof that either:

1. Seat belts kill
or
2. Men used to be more robust.*

*I'm on the right board to wonder if we were less frail when we were closer to our Anunnaki roots?

Ha.  Perhaps theu were all asleep and were relaxed during the crash?  I wonder why their names weren't recorded?  I was in a wreck once.  I was six years old and we were driving back from a lake in a 1958 Mercury station wagon.  Darkness had fallen and us kids were right in the middle of a boisterous rendition of 'Ive Been Working On The Railroad' (the Dinah, won't you blow, Dinah, won't you blow, part) when Dad  rounded a corner and saw a drunk driver heading towards us in our lane.  With a cliff to the right, Dad swung over to a bank on the left and the car flipped over onto the road.  I distinctly remember watching a thermos bottle floating around in the air for a few seconds before I was thrown out the back of the car.  I did a couple of midair summersaults and landed feet first onto the pavement.  I should have thrown my arms up like a circus performer but no, I started crying and ran for Mom.  One brother had a broken collarbone but everyone else was unhurt.

Rix Gins

From the Library of Congress.  The Rock Island Argus, August 12, 1919.

       


WOTR

Quote from: Rix Gins on August 12, 2019, 03:21:48 AM
Ha.  Perhaps theu were all asleep and were relaxed during the crash?  I wonder why their names weren't recorded?  I was in a wreck once.  I was six years old and we were driving back from a lake in a 1958 Mercury station wagon.  Darkness had fallen and us kids were right in the middle of a boisterous rendition of 'Ive Been Working On The Railroad' (the Dinah, won't you blow, Dinah, won't you blow, part) when Dad  rounded a corner and saw a drunk driver heading towards us in our lane.  With a cliff to the right, Dad swung over to a bank on the left and the car flipped over onto the road.  I distinctly remember watching a thermos bottle floating around in the air for a few seconds before I was thrown out the back of the car.  I did a couple of midair summersaults and landed feet first onto the pavement.  I should have thrown my arms up like a circus performer but no, I started crying and ran for Mom.  One brother had a broken collarbone but everyone else was unhurt.

I have known two people in my life who were ejected from a car during an accident who survived. Both were in an accident that would have taken their lives if they were strapped into their seats. One was a huge (and I mean "take up a couch by himself huge) who went through the windshield of a cabover before it went over a cliff. The other was in a bad wreck in a car from the 70's.

You and your family sound quite lucky. Were you the only one who landed outside of the car?


WOTR

Quote from: Rix Gins on August 12, 2019, 03:25:25 AM
From the Library of Congress.  The Rock Island Argus, August 12, 1919.

       


There is one for KDubb (and me.) "comfortably smoking pipes and reading the newspaper." I just can't imagine that being acceptable today- no matter how little freight is moving.  ;)

K_Dubb

Quote from: Rix Gins on August 12, 2019, 03:25:25 AM
From the Library of Congress.  The Rock Island Argus, August 12, 1919.



That is some story, Rix!  You have led a charmed life since.

I take it the two officers/one motorcycle was a product of the odd sidecar experiment that promised to cut down on crashes, and that drinking may well have been a contributing factor in the earlier mishaps.  The sidecar, then, was not intended for balance at all, but its occupant served as a sort of mutual accountability guarantee against drinking on the job which failed spectacularly here.

albrecht

Quote from: WOTR on August 12, 2019, 12:12:05 AM
Proof that either:

1. Seat belts kill
or
2. Men used to be more robust.*

*I'm on the right board to wonder if we were less frail when we were closer to our Anunnaki roots?
I've always heard a claim that "drunks" are more likely to survive. Apparently because "they are relaxed" "don't tense up" "don't try to brace themselves" "makes attempted correction to vehicle that results in worse accident," etc and so body is more limber. Somehow, this theory goes, make them more likely to survive. I would imagine more people drove drunk back then so this could explain. You also do note, anecdotally, in the news, even know, how some tragic accident kills a person, or even family, but the drunk driver who caused it survives and is in the hospital and being charged. This is not to advocate drunk driving, but speculation. Indeed, personally, it sounds worse karma or guilt or whatever for the drunk to survive rather than the innocent other motorist but the world aint fair.   

Rix Gins

Quote from: WOTR on August 12, 2019, 10:23:44 AM
I have known two people in my life who were ejected from a car during an accident who survived. Both were in an accident that would have taken their lives if they were strapped into their seats. One was a huge (and I mean "take up a couch by himself huge) who went through the windshield of a cabover before it went over a cliff. The other was in a bad wreck in a car from the 70's.

You and your family sound quite lucky. Were you the only one who landed outside of the car?

You know I've got no recollection if anyone else was thrown out or not.  It was dark, and by the time I got my bearings, everybody was gathered outside the auto.  Writing about it has jogged my memory further though.  I recall the tow truck driver picking us up and dropping us off at a fancy hunters type restaurant that sat by the highway.  I say hunter because the walls had deer and elk antlers displayed on them.  To this day I can remember how hungry I was.  I would have loved a big thick steak but I think that they were done cooking for the night.  All they had on hand was a bunch of left over salad.  A couple weeks later I remember looking down from my bedroom window to see the Mercury in the driveway, all repaired and freshly painted.  But Dad didn't want to hold onto it and he sold it several days later.   

Rix Gins

Quote from: K_Dubb on August 12, 2019, 11:07:13 AM
That is some story, Rix!  You have led a charmed life since.

I take it the two officers/one motorcycle was a product of the odd sidecar experiment that promised to cut down on crashes, and that drinking may well have been a contributing factor in the earlier mishaps.  The sidecar, then, was not intended for balance at all, but its occupant served as a sort of mutual accountability guarantee against drinking on the job which failed spectacularly here.

Standby for another chapter in the wayward sidecar caper...

Rix Gins

From the Library of Congress.  The Rock Island Argus., August 13, 1919.








albrecht

Quote from: Rix Gins on August 13, 2019, 02:11:03 AM




Funny how things don't change, though in these tender times the correlation between certain new "residents," and their penchant for jaywalking, won't be mentioned in polite company. 

https://www.statesman.com/news/20190215/pedestrian-deaths-reached-record-levels-in-2018-police-data-show 

https://www.mcminnlaw.com/pedestrian-accident-statistics/ 



WOTR

Quote from: Rix Gins on August 13, 2019, 02:11:03 AM
From the Library of Congress.  The Rock Island Argus., August 13, 1919.



That has to have been some Saturday night for indiscretions! Wrecking a motorcycle is understandable. But losing your uniform, hat and keys? Must have been a hell of a party. 

Rix Gins

From the Library of Congress.  The Rock Island Argus., August 15, 1919.








Rix Gins

From the Library of Congress.  The Rock Island Argus., August 18, 1919.


Rix Gins

From the Library of Congress.  The Rock Island Argus., August 19, 1919.


albrecht

Quote from: Rix Gins on August 19, 2019, 02:00:46 AM
From the Library of Congress.  The Rock Island Argus., August 19, 1919.


These folks were tougher back then. I say due to non-homogenized, real milk (denser bones) and rot-gut whiskey (natural pain-killer and anti-parasitic.) Also no 4-G and coming 5-G "waves" interfering with brain function and calcium/magnesium absorption and lots of Vitamin D due to sunny conditions when operating on horseback.   ;)

Rix Gins

No sound but some good footage of Pershing and some other officers visiting fields where battles were fought, damaged towns, etc., in August of 1919.
https://youtu.be/Q4QDgNOeR-E

WOTR

Quote from: Rix Gins on August 19, 2019, 07:43:59 PM
No sound but some good footage of Pershing and some other officers visiting fields where battles were fought, damaged towns, etc., in August of 1919.
https://youtu.be/Q4QDgNOeR-E
Nice footage. Any idea what cathedral that is at the 5:00 minute mark?

Rix Gins

Quote from: WOTR on August 20, 2019, 12:23:30 AM
Nice footage. Any idea what cathedral that is at the 5:00 minute mark?

Yes, that is the famous Cathedral at Reims.  It was damaged pretty badly during the war, plus there was a big fire, also war related.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reims_Cathedral

Rix Gins

From the Library of Congress.  The Rock Island Argus., August 20, 1919.


   




albrecht

Quote from: Rix Gins on August 20, 2019, 01:39:51 AM
From the Library of Congress.  The Rock Island Argus., August 20, 1919.


   


What a milder time! Murder threats, even to wife, over a jelly formula?!!
"Your honor, -hiccup-, apparently the evidence has "disappeared" so the prosecution -hiccup- requests the charges against Oscar Block be dismissed."

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Rix Gins on August 20, 2019, 01:39:51 AM
From the Library of Congress.  The Rock Island Argus., August 20, 1919.


   


Dam?  Who knew an argument over jelly could get you into such a jam.    (Oh c'mon, somebody had to say it.)

albrecht

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on August 20, 2019, 05:34:38 PM
Dam?  Who knew an argument over jelly could get you into such a jam.    (Oh c'mon, somebody had to say it.)
It had to be said. Lest we get back on the punfest that has happened here before. 

Kidnostad3

Quote from: albrecht on August 20, 2019, 08:26:25 PM
It had to be said. Lest we get back on the punfest that has happened here before.

Perish the thought!

Rix Gins

From the Library of Congress.  The Rock Island Argus., August 21, 1919.


WOTR

Quote from: Rix Gins on August 20, 2019, 01:34:30 AM
Yes, that is the famous Cathedral at Reims. 

Thanks Rix. The wiki article sort of drives home what a different time it must have been 100 years ago.

"On 4 September 1914, the XII Saxon corps arrived at the city and later that day the Imperial German Army began shelling the city.[c] The guns, located 7 kilometers (4.3 mi) away in Les Mesneux, ceased firing when the XII Saxon Corps sent two officers and a city employee to ask them to stop shelling the city."

I can just see the conversation... "Pardon me, major. Your shells are damaging our city, and we were hoping that you might consider suspending the bombardment."

And somehow, the answer was "yes." These had to have been people at war without hatred- before the propaganda machine became so effective.

WOTR

Fine... I'll point out my stupidity before somebody else does. The Royal Saxons are German. Sue me- I've been sick for the last two days and not really with it.  :P

*Yes, that is the excuse that I'm going with.

Rix Gins

Quote from: WOTR on August 22, 2019, 12:18:42 AM
Fine... I'll point out my stupidity before somebody else does. The Royal Saxons are German. Sue me- I've been sick for the last two days and not really with it.  :P

*Yes, that is the excuse that I'm going with.

Well, I'll tell you WOTR, I didn't catch that either.  I just thought that it was a chivalrous act, and those did occur on occasion during the war.  Usually during combat in the air.  Every so often a pilot would see that his opponent's guns were jammed and he would let him off the hook.  Von Richthofen used to visit with his victims if they survived being shot down.  There was a Christmas truce where both sides stopped fighting and exchanged tobacco, etc.  And there was one British soldier who had a German soldier in his sights, but for some reason he didn't pull the trigger.  He would later find out that the German was Adolf Hitler.  I've been kind of under the weather myself of late.  You don't suppose we caught that Summer Flu bug as described above?     

WOTR

Quote from: Rix Gins on August 22, 2019, 01:14:55 AM
Well, I'll tell you WOTR, I didn't catch that either.  I just thought that it was a chivalrous act, and those did occur on occasion during the war.  Usually during combat in the air.  Every so often a pilot would see that his opponent's guns were jammed and he would let him off the hook.  Von Richthofen used to visit with his victims if they survived being shot down.  There was a Christmas truce where both sides stopped fighting and exchanged tobacco, etc.  And there was one British soldier who had a German soldier in his sights, but for some reason he didn't pull the trigger.  He would later find out that the German was Adolf Hitler.  I've been kind of under the weather myself of late.  You don't suppose we caught that Summer Flu bug as described above?     

I had figured that it was one of those uncommon acts of kindness as well. I know that I posted on one of the threads here awhile back after watching "they shall not grow old" about how surprised I was when they talked of the Germans- and how surprised I was to find that captured Germans would often spontaneously go on litter detail (hauling the dead and wounded around.)

It really did seem like WWI (and even WWII) had soldiers who did not necessarily hate their enemy even though they were fighting for their lives.

I think I had posted the link here before- but just in case I did not... It a German pilot in WWII who escorted a severely damaged B-17 flying fortress out of German airspace. One of those stories that even brings a smile to a Bellgabbers face.  ;)

Truth be told, I kind of wonder if my grandfather knew the pilot, Stigler. There were not that many men who flew the first "jet fighter" (I assume the author means the Me-163.)

https://jalopnik.com/why-a-german-pilot-escorted-an-american-bomber-to-safet-5971023

Rix Gins

Quote from: WOTR on August 22, 2019, 01:46:26 AM
I had figured that it was one of those uncommon acts of kindness as well. I know that I posted on one of the threads here awhile back after watching "they shall not grow old" about how surprised I was when they talked of the Germans- and how surprised I was to find that captured Germans would often spontaneously go on litter detail (hauling the dead and wounded around.)

It really did seem like WWI (and even WWII) had soldiers who did not necessarily hate their enemy even though they were fighting for their lives.

I think I had posted the link here before- but just in case I did not... It a German pilot in WWII who escorted a severely damaged B-17 flying fortress out of German airspace. One of those stories that even brings a smile to a Bellgabbers face.  ;)

Truth be told, I kind of wonder if my grandfather knew the pilot, Stigler. There were not that many men who flew the first "jet fighter" (I assume the author means the Me-163.)

https://jalopnik.com/why-a-german-pilot-escorted-an-american-bomber-to-safet-5971023

Very cool article.  I liked how Brown and Stigler became close friends for the rest of their lives.

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