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Started by MV/Liberace!, February 08, 2012, 10:50:42 AM

Kidnostad3

Can you believe this?   Hilliary's already making up excuses for a Dem loss in 2020.  Another vast right wing conspiracy involving the Russians, Tulsi Gabbard and Jill Stein.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/hillary-clinton-says-tulsi-gabbard-is-a-russian-asset-groomed-to-ensure-trump-re-election


ItsOver

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on October 18, 2019, 11:57:05 AM
Can you believe this?   Hilliary's already making up excuses for a Dem loss in 2020.  Another vast right wing conspiracy involving the Russians, Tulsi Gabbard and Jill Stein.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/hillary-clinton-says-tulsi-gabbard-is-a-russian-asset-groomed-to-ensure-trump-re-election
Ha!  "Hillary Clinton said that Rep. Tulsi Gabbard is being groomed by Moscow to run as a third-party spoiler candidate in 2020 to help President Trump win reelection." Is she aiming to be a C2CAM guest?

Jackstar

How is this 'random'? Russians!!!


Gunner65



38 people cited for violations in Clinton email probe

WASHINGTON (AP) â€" The State Department has completed its internal investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s use of private email and found violations by 38 people, some of whom may face disciplinary action.
https://apnews.com/14b14afc5d8647858489a2cf5385c28d

The investigation, launched more than three years ago, determined that those 38 people were “culpable” in 91 cases of sending classified information that ended up in Clinton’s personal email, according to a letter sent to Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley this week and released on Friday. The 38 are current and former State Department officials but were not identified.

Although the report identified violations, it said investigators had found “no persuasive evidence of systemic, deliberate mishandling of classified information.” However, it also made clear that Clinton’s use of the private email had increased the vulnerability of classified information.

The Associated Press sent an email seeking comment to a Clinton representative.

The investigation covered 33,000 emails that Clinton turned over for review after her use of the private email account became public. The department said it found a total of 588 violations involving information then or now deemed to be classified but could not assign fault in 497 cases.

"The Justice Department’s inspector general said FBI specialists did not find evidence that the server had been hacked, with one forensics agent saying he felt “fairly confident that there wasn’t an intrusion.”


State Department Concludes Clinton Email Review, Says It Found Nearly 600 Security Violations
https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/18/hillary-clinton-violations-state-department-emails/

State Department report on Clinton emails
https://www.scribd.com/document/430949335/State-Department-report-on-Clinton-emails#from_embed

Why would it take the State Department over 30 days to notify Sen. Grassley they had completed the investigation and provide him with a copy of the report?

albrecht

Quote from: Gunner65 on October 18, 2019, 05:16:44 PM


38 people cited for violations in Clinton email probe

WASHINGTON (AP) â€" The State Department has completed its internal investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s use of private email and found violations by 38 people, some of whom may face disciplinary action.
https://apnews.com/14b14afc5d8647858489a2cf5385c28d

The investigation, launched more than three years ago, determined that those 38 people were “culpable” in 91 cases of sending classified information that ended up in Clinton’s personal email, according to a letter sent to Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley this week and released on Friday. The 38 are current and former State Department officials but were not identified.

Although the report identified violations, it said investigators had found “no persuasive evidence of systemic, deliberate mishandling of classified information.” However, it also made clear that Clinton’s use of the private email had increased the vulnerability of classified information.

The Associated Press sent an email seeking comment to a Clinton representative.

The investigation covered 33,000 emails that Clinton turned over for review after her use of the private email account became public. The department said it found a total of 588 violations involving information then or now deemed to be classified but could not assign fault in 497 cases.

"The Justice Department’s inspector general said FBI specialists did not find evidence that the server had been hacked, with one forensics agent saying he felt “fairly confident that there wasn’t an intrusion.”


State Department Concludes Clinton Email Review, Says It Found Nearly 600 Security Violations
https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/18/hillary-clinton-violations-state-department-emails/

State Department report on Clinton emails
https://www.scribd.com/document/430949335/State-Department-report-on-Clinton-emails#from_embed
One notes, ok I have noted- but not due to any prurient interests- on what TYPE of porn was promised during one of the phishing attacks that led, apparently, to the compromised data? According to Obama's FBI a promise of some porn was sent, in a phishing attack, and was forwarded to others and, I guess, "clicked on."

http://thesmokinggun.com/file/hrc-fbi?page=1 (page 37 of 47 in this FBI report) 

https://fortune.com/2016/10/29/clinton-email-phishing-attack/ 

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/investigation/fbi-report-on-hillary-clinton-921645



Gunner65

"According to Obama's FBI a promise of some porn was sent, in a phishing attack, and was forwarded to others and, I guess, "clicked on."

So does this newly released State Department report appear to contradict or concur with the prior DOJ report which stated: "The Justice Department’s inspector general said FBI specialists did not find evidence that the server had been hacked, with one forensics agent saying he felt “fairly confident that there wasn’t an intrusion.”?

Or was it only concerned with only the deliberate mishandling of classified information?

("Although the report identified violations, it said investigators had found “no persuasive evidence of systemic, deliberate mishandling of classified information.” However, it also made clear that Clinton’s use of the private email had increased the vulnerability of classified information.")

albrecht

Quote from: Gunner65 on October 18, 2019, 06:00:18 PM
So does this report appear to contradict the DOJ report which stated: "The Justice Department’s inspector general said FBI specialists did not find evidence that the server had been hacked, with one forensics agent saying he felt “fairly confident that there wasn’t an intrusion.”?
I think there are a lot of complications here and sort of important to parse and pay attention (not on you, but even me, but especially the general public and "news.)

We have the DNC "hack," or leaks, showing Podesta/Clinton and others in their snarkyness, deep-sixing Bernie, hatred of much of the non-coastal citizens and even other Democrat voters. In addition to other weirdness- at the best interpretation.

We have the illegal and insecure private server used by Hillary.


We have the illegal and insecure email accounts (yahoo, gmail, etc) used by Hillary and many Obama associates (and some others including some military folks.) 

We have the general, due to cheapness of storage, of government, and private, data-bases with everyone's information (I'm sure you also got letter from OPM about the breaches there.)     

And, lest I be non-inclusive, we have the over general insecurity of outsourcing, cloud-sourcing, the post-911 changes on information sharing between branches, and contractual "services" and "hosting" by big tech companies and even foreign firms (often Israeli.) 

And then you have the normal rivalry between branches, agencies, and people inside the Beltway. 

All of which have been, to some extent, compromised at some point or the other. Some, like Clinton's illegal server or using maid to fax stuff or Huma's husband "sexting" underage girls on devices with secure content, I suspect was intentionally meant to be insecure as a part of a "pay to play" scheme- with some deniability. In other words, allow information to "leak" to individuals/countries/organizations who donated but only "I'm not high-tech, I didn't know about"  insecure server in some closet or what girl was being harassed etc. I can't prove this but speculate.

Gunner65

I believe the entire country has been left only to speculate over the past three years! I also believe that an Obama- installed Department of Justice and Clinton State Department were allowed basically to investigate themselves!  Trump should have eliminated the lot of them from the beginning.  Once again, we have the results of an investigation which has taken three years and likely millions of dollars, to produce very few "actionable" results.

albrecht

Quote from: Gunner65 on October 18, 2019, 06:19:27 PM
I believe the entire country has been left only to speculate over the past three years! I also believe that an Obama- installed Department of Justice and Clinton State Department were allowed basically to investigate themselves!  Trump should have eliminated the lot of them from the beginning.

Cribbing from wiki: 

The Senior Executive Service (SES) is a position classification in the civil service of the United States federal government, equivalent to general officer or flag officer ranks in the U.S. Armed Forces. It was created in 1979 when the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978 went into effect under President Jimmy Carter. SES positions are considered to be above the GS-15 level. 

Senior level employees of several agencies are exempt from the SES but have their own senior executive positions; these include the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Central Intelligence Agency, Defense Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency, Transportation Security Administration, Federal Aviation Administration, Government Accountability Office, Members of the Foreign Service, and government corporations. 

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/senior-executive-service/ 






Gunner65

I am also speculating that the 38 current and former "violators" (which remain unidentified) associated with this report, may likely have a level lower than GS-15. 









Taaroa

It's good to see that they're not discriminating against Australians by banning the word 'cunt'.

https://freebeacon.com/politics/mass-dems-bill-would-make-it-illegal-to-call-someone-bitch/



ItsOver

Quote from: Taaroa on October 23, 2019, 06:02:15 AM
It's good to see that they're not discriminating against Australians by banning the word 'cunt'.

https://freebeacon.com/politics/mass-dems-bill-would-make-it-illegal-to-call-someone-bitch/



Control the words, control the culture.  Thank you, Demonrats.  Fucking control-freaks.  Stalin would be proud.




pyewacket

There is a theory for all of this- Anacyclosis.

Quote
The word anacyclosis has been variously translated as “the cycle of political revolution” and “the cycle of the constitutions.” In short, the theory states that the six regime archetypes that the Greeks identified and which we still use today (monarchy, tyranny, aristocracy, oligarchy, democracy, and ochlocracy or mob-rule) each represent different stages of one long process of political evolution.

https://anacyclosis.org/portfolio/what-is-anacyclosis/

Kidnostad3

Quote from: pyewacket on October 23, 2019, 09:55:33 AM
There is a theory for all of this- Anacyclosis.

https://anacyclosis.org/portfolio/what-is-anacyclosis/

I don't worry about anacyclosis.  I had my anacyclo out when I was a kid. 

pyewacket

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on October 23, 2019, 07:52:06 PM
I don't worry about anacyclosis.  I had my anacyclo out when I was a kid.

Well at least you still have your funny bone, which is more than I can say for some others around here.

albrecht

Quote from: Jackstar on October 22, 2019, 12:38:41 AM
PierrE DelectO
I missed this comment. Ha. Hilarious. Nobody, except members, know what P.E.O. means (at least according to an old, now dead, relative.) One thing about the older generation. They liked their "clubs,"  social, athletic, fraternal, church, ethnic, or etc- even the ladies. And not all were bad, sure,some but a sad thing that people don't have more real social groups. This is not to say that there weren't nefarious ones.

As a side note: You will recall that Lyndon LaRouche, once said that the "Leesburg Garden Club is a nest of Soviet travelers." In apparent response to why he needed to have armed minions roaming about his compound's perimeter.  I miss that guy as constant candidate. He needs be running again in this Democratic Primary Zoo.  He would be the somewhat sane one considering. 

aldousburbank

The Burbank Compound is now in it's second day of the second "public safety power outage" in two weeks. The good news is that that our PG&E overlords are expecting to restore power this afternoon. Oh, until Saturday when they'll be shutting it down again until expected restoration date somewhere around Monday. Venezuala is looking more appealing every day.


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: aldousburbank on October 24, 2019, 01:06:34 PM
The Burbank Compound is now in it's second day of the second "public safety power outage" in two weeks. The good news is that that our PG&E overlords are expecting to restore power this afternoon. Oh, until Saturday when they'll be shutting it down again until expected restoration date somewhere around Monday. Venezuala is looking more appealing every day.



Not much diff between Cali and there now, I guess. Why not just jump states? Seems like an easier, pro-American choice. :)

aldousburbank

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 24, 2019, 01:11:06 PM
Not much diff between Cali and there now, I guess. Why not just jump states? Seems like an easier, pro-American choice. :)

Yeah believe me, as soon as the statute of limitations kicks in I'll be back in Arizona like a duck to water. This place is a clusterfuck.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: aldousburbank on October 24, 2019, 01:06:34 PM
The Burbank Compound is now in it's second day of the second "public safety power outage" in two weeks. The good news is that that our PG&E overlords are expecting to restore power this afternoon. Oh, until Saturday when they'll be shutting it down again until expected restoration date somewhere around Monday. Venezuala is looking more appealing every day.



Grim outlook dude.  You might also consider moving to a first world state within CONUS.  The list of states to which the state of Cal. has banned official travel would be a good place to start looking for one. 

albrecht

Quote from: aldousburbank on October 24, 2019, 01:06:34 PM
The Burbank Compound is now in it's second day of the second "public safety power outage" in two weeks. The good news is that that our PG&E overlords are expecting to restore power this afternoon. Oh, until Saturday when they'll be shutting it down again until expected restoration date somewhere around Monday. Venezuala is looking more appealing every day.


A lot of theories about PG&E actions. Be safe. How are cities handling it? Hospitals? Schools? Trapped in elevators or public transports? Any riots or crime uptick? State ensuring no price gouging for fuel, generators, propane, guns/ammo, etc? Stores discounting products that need refrigeration?  Keep safe, sounds awful.

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