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The last Shuttle mission STS-135 launched July 8 2011 using OV-104 Atlantis.  She and her crew landed safely on July 21/2011 marking the last time that the USA had the ability to put its own astronauts on its own space station.  I cant believe that the Shuttles have been retired for 9 years already.
The Commercial Crew providers are in the process right now making US based ISS crew rotation a reality.

Here is the Approach and Landing Tests involving Mission Commander Fred Haise(lunar module pilot of the aborted Apollo-13 lunar mission-crew survived) and Shuttle Pilot Gordon Fulleron(in the astronaut rotation and served as the backup mission Commander for Apollo 16. Future assignments during Apollo for Fullerton were cancelled along with the program).

Orbiter Vehicle One-Oh-One (OV-101) originally named Constitution, public urging got NASA  OV-101 renamed to from "Constitution" to "Enterprise". OV-101 "Enterprise" is named after the Star Trek series USS Enterprise (NCC-1701) 
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OV-101 Enterprise for the ALT(Approach Landing Tests) is unpowered, but uses the potential energy afforded by the 747 .
Here's Shuttles very first flight as part of the ALT(Approach Landing Test)

https://youtu.be/dijD4J3vX5Y

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Hog

Quote from: Taaroa on July 02, 2020, 01:41:22 PM
Boeing Quietly Pulls Plug on the 747, Closing Era of Jumbo Jets
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-02/boeing-quietly-pulls-plug-on-the-747-closing-era-of-jumbo-jets

Such an iconic piece of Americana.  Wiki says that as of Jan 2020 Boeing has built 1,557 of these beasts .

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Soviet Designed Air Launched Space Shuttle Rocket from a dual Fuselage Antonov An-225  Mriya(meaning Dream or inspiration)

Well here is the newest "big jet" to come from our friends in Russia.  To commemorate Putin's possible leadership until the year 2036, his friends in Moscow put together this Antonov AN-225 based Space Shuttle Launcher.

https://youtu.be/S3fAm8TGP1U


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Attachments
1) AN-225 with the CCCP's version of the US Space Shuttle on its back
2) AN-225 at 1990 airshow
3) AN-225 main landing gear
4) A brand new OV-099 (Orbiter Vehicle-099) aka Challenger on the back of Shuttle Carrier Aircraft(SCA) NASA-905 back in 1982.

5 engined 747-SP!
Followed by a B737-200.


https://youtu.be/LBA-LjsxvOE

I think it would look better, and probably perform better with a 6th engine in a mirrored position on the Port side of the a/c.

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Hog

Quote from: ItsOver on July 01, 2020, 07:15:34 PM
"Dear ConservCityGirl,

The selection of proper PPE should always be made based upon the requirements of your particular situation.  For New York, I would recommend both masks and vests but the best long-term course of action would be complete avoidance."

Emphasis mine.

This must explain the recent run of female condoms at tax time.  If I'm going to get fucked in the ass, I'm not going to get COVID-19.

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Hog

"Toss Bombing" nuclear weapons using the B-47 Stratojet.


https://youtu.be/s_fVtd5Sz9M

F-111's had the capability to emply a similar "over the shoulder" toss bombing technique when dropping the GBU-15.  The bomb continues upwards while the jet has changed direction and is escaping the area. 

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Wow, Casio's back?

MV told him never to come back here.  I remember when Casio called into the Gabcast when Falkie was hosting.

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Quote from: Walks_At_Night on June 23, 2020, 12:51:12 PM
Oh.  How nice.  Will the compressor noise still be in the background?

R U sure it wasn't just the Hum of a Dynamo?

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Hog

The nose cones and aft nozzle sections have been at Kennedy Space Center for some time now, but the train carrying 10 Solid Rocket Booster fully loaded with oxidizer and fuel arrived at KSC from Corrine Utah a couple days ago.


https://youtu.be/MdZkPMGmRJw

This video actually gives you a better unedited view.

https://youtu.be/fsafjU3GNl0

Rail consist
2 prime mover/locomotives
1 clearance car- if the extensions on this car touch anything like the edges of a tunnel, the rest of the train wont fit(kinda like a cats whiskers-if the whiskers fit, the cats body can fit)
1 red coloured 12 axle railcar with mass simulating OmegA rocket segment inside)
1 empty boxcar spacer car-these empty cars are placed between each loaded segment cat to space out the
   extremely heavy segment cars.  They help to avoid overloading bridges and the rail ballast itself
1 8 axle SLS/Shuttle segment car
1 empty space boxcar
rinse and repeat 9 times until the last loaded car is another red coloured 12 axle OmegA rocket segment
1 empty spacer boxcar

The Space Shuttle used 2 SRBs which consisted of 4 solid propellant segments, the new Space Launch System rocket will use SRBs made of the exact same steel segments(they've actually flown on shuttle missions before and been recovered) except that each SRB will use 5 segments instead of 4.
The Shuttle 4 segment SRBs were the largest and most powerful rocket engines ever used operationally.  The SLS SRBs are even larger/more powerful.
The 4 segment SRBs developed approx. 2.8 million pounds of thrust and the new SLS SRBs will produce approx. 3.6 million pounds thrust each for approx 7.2 million pounds thrust.  Couple that with the almost 2 million pounds of thrust that the 4 RS-25D Space Shuttle Main Engines makes for approx 9 million pounds of off the pad thrust.
The 4 segment SRBs(Redesigned Solid Rocket Motors-RSRM) were reusable with parachutes, while the 5 segment (Redesigned Solid Rocket Motor-Five/Roman Numeral V for 5 segments) RSRM-V are an asbestos free design, minus the parachutes will be dropped into the ocean in expendable form.
There are enough previously used, though still within spec SRB segments for 8 SLS missions. 10 segments per mission, 80 segments within spec=8 SLS missions. After SLS mission 8, Northrop Grumman, who now owns ATK which was the old Thiokol company, will make expendable 5 segment SRBs made of Wound Carbon Fibre filaments.

This train is carrying 10 loaded segments on the yellow coloured 8 axled rail cars.  These 10 cars are "sandwiched" by 2 segments that are longer and heavier being carried by the red coloured 12 axle railcars at the start and the end of the train.  These segments will comprise the new OmegA rocket set to launch for the first time in 2021.  The 2 OmegA rocket segments are loaded with an inert solid mixture that simulates the mass of real solid propellant.  These 2 segments will be used for handling tests at KSC.  A Mobile Launcher Platform from the Apollo/Shuttle days is being modified for NG launches from Launch Complex 39B. The same LC that SLS will launch from though SLS launches will always take precedence. Though with the low flight rate of 1 launch per year, SLS wont be in the way very much.
Once the SLS segments are stacked, they must be launched within one year.  So stacking will not occur until at least this fall, as SLS/Artemis-1 is now scheduled for November 2021.

OmegA Intermediate will use 2 segments for its first stage(Castor 600) with a single Castor 300 segment as its 2nd stage with a Liquid Hydrogen/Liquid Oxygen(HydroLox) 3rd stage.
OmegA Heavy will use 4 carbon fibre wound segments Castor-1200 as its first stage with the same Castor 300 2nd stage and HydroLox 3rd stage on top.  Northropp Grumman won a 792 million contract to develop the rocket for the US Airforce to provide redundancy for Space Force/AirForce/NRO launches.

OmegA rocket


SLS rocket


Slowly but surely, we're getting there.

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Hog

Quote from: AZZERAE on June 08, 2020, 12:37:35 PM
You sperged out. Not me.

Define "sperged" please.

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Why does he keep blowing his money on Prius's?

I cant think of a worse car for someone on a fixed income to maintain.

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Hog

Quote from: paladin1991 on June 09, 2020, 12:16:14 PM
Is that selfie taken in a psych room?  The background looks kind of ...clinical?

While it does look clinical, most "observation rooms" that Azz would be in have a concave sphere shaped window  so that the "patients" cant hide by laying at the bottom of the door.  When they do that sometimes I "accidentally" spill my 10 sugar 10 cream coffee so that it runs under the door.  Nothing like "cooling off" with drawers full of sweet sugary goodness.

Never fuck with a nurse..esp. one that is willing to pull a double shift just to ensure your "client centered care" is uninterrupted for 24 hours.  I can play this game for days. Remember, I've got the keys to the med. cart, you don't, so play safe.

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Quote from: Dr. MD MD on June 14, 2020, 05:58:15 AM

https://youtu.be/4HBGQAHnGNo?t=139

https://youtu.be/4HBGQAHnGNo?t=139

2:21  Please for the love of christ, give this translator a fucking chair.  His calf muscles are on the verge of Schwarzennegerism!

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Hog

"What, you're here for some fucking Gabcast?  Sheeit, boo this man."
"You ever suck some dick for some fucking Gabcast?"

Name that movie.

I'd suck a dick for a new Gabcast.

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Hog

Quote from: ItsOver on May 30, 2020, 06:08:00 AM
I've seen them.  I'm in a pine forest in SE Texas, in the middle of their usual migration path.  Some years, it's like being in the middle of a monarch, humming bird, and miscellaneous bird freeway. 

Very nice.  I just saw my first Monarch yesterday.  Milkweed is doing well.  We've had very cold nights lately.

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Tally ho.  I just saw ISS pass over my house with "Endeavour" about a hands width behind.

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Successfully on orbit for tom. docking with ISS.

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They have decided to proceed  with the count for todays launch.  Weather is currently sitting at 50% for this afternoons launch.

This test flight of the new Crew-Dragon space vehicle will be the first Americans to launch to orbit on an American made vehicle since July 2011 when STS-135 launched.

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Ive got a very mice crop of milkweed growing this year.

Anyone spot any Monarchs yet this year?

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Evinrude outboard engines are now a thing of the past.  Coronavirus is to blame.

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Quote from: Uncle Duke on May 08, 2020, 06:48:50 PM
That's a lot of warship for a country like Mexico.  SAMs and Harpoons?

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2019/12/video-mexican-navy-pola-class-arm-reformador-completes-acceptance-trials/

It certainly is.

Length=107.14 meters or 352 feet
Beam (width) 14.02 meters  or 46 feet
Displacement of 2,570 tons
Maximum speed of 27 knots. 
Endurance 21 days at sea. 

"" ARM Reformador is based on the SIGMA 10514 frigate design by Damen. It has a length of 107.14 meters, a beam (width) of 14.02 meters, a displacement of 2,570 tons, a maximum speed of 27 knots. It has an endurance of 21 days at sea.  Before the Mexican Navy, the Indonesian Navy (TNI AL) selected the SIGMA 10514 design as their main and most modern surface combatant (it is known locally as the PKR Frigate).""


I didn't realize that Damon was a warship designer in addition to being an aircraft pilot. #strokemouthed


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Quote from: GravitySucks on May 08, 2020, 02:13:56 PM
We have stocked variable yield nukes ever since at least the 1970’s.  I’m not familiar with the detailed design but we used to call them dial-a-yield on the bombs and SRAMs on the FB-111A swing wing bombers. The same weapons were used on the B-1 while they were nuclear capable. SRAMs were replaced by the ACLM.

Some of them could be dialed quite low. Obviously none were ever detonated.

I don’t think we stock any nuclear artillery shells like we used to maintain along the Iron curtain.  I believe those were like 1kt.

I spent the first 4 years at Plattsburgh AFB certifying the aircrews for their alert sorties, but the last 4 years were at HQ/SAC where we picked all the targets and assigned all the nuclear weapons for all of the bomber, ICBMs and SLBMs for what was called the Single Integrated Operational Plan (SIOP). When Reagan got elected we may have been tasked with developing Limited Nuclear Options (LNO). If such plans had been developed the analysts would have certainly been tasked with designing such an attack as to make it clear to an adversary that it was indeed a limited yet lethal attack.

After 8 years of working on stuff I hoped would never get used, I got out to work on the space program where I could actually see the results of my work get used.

Excellent post. I am aware of the dial-a-yield weaponry, but I thought that that they were limited to the variants of the B-83 and the B-61.
B-61 Mod-3 t, dial a yield  0.3, 1.5, 60, or 170 kt  tactical
B-61 Mod-4 dial a yield 0.3, 1.5, 10, or 45 kt tactical
B-61 Mod-7 dial a yield 10 kt or 340 kt  Strategic
B-61 Mod-11 dial a yield 0.3, 340, or 400 kt retrofit of Mod-7 50 in service bunkerbusting capability(replaced B-53 and its 9 megatons yield) Placed more accurately, the smaller yield can be used.
B-61 Mod-12 dial-a-yield 0.3, 1.5, 10, or 50 kt  GPS guided hyper accurate bunker buster developed in 2019 tactical/strategic

The SLBM's do not use dial-a-yield technology AKAIK.  It was a brand new warhead dubbed W-76-2 first fielded in 2019  has a yield of 5-7 kt.
1-8 Mk-5 RV/W88 (455 kt) or
1-14 Mk-4 RV/W76-0 (100 kt) or
1-14 Mk-4A RV/W-76-1 (90 kt)
Single or multiple W76-2 (5-7 kt)

US Deploys New Low-Yield Nuclear Submarine Warhead
https://fas.org/blogs/security/2020/01/w76-2deployed/

"The US Department of Defense confirmed in February 2020 that W76-2 had been 'fielded'" launched aboard USS Tennessee in late 2019. "

Up to 14 of these new warheads can be fitted onto a Trident-II SLBM, though the max actually fielded is actually 4 due to NEW START treaty.
Up to 16 W-76-1  90 kt warheads can physically fit on each Trident-II SLBM. The W-76-1 has replaced the W-88 and its 475 kt warheads with   

those SRAMs (AGM-69) were awesome. The B-52 could "wear" 20 of them, 6 under each wing and 8 more inside the bomb bay on the nuke capable B-52's of the day. SRAM-2(AGM-131) was all ready to go, but there was a ramp fire on September 1980 where a fully loaded B-52 that burned for 3 hours.
Cracks in the rocket motors of the SRAMs were also a concern as they could explode upon ignition. 


3 Advanced Cruise Missiles located under the wing of a B-52H

B-1 could carry 24 of them on 3 rotary launchers in its belly.

The FB-111 could carry 6, 2 in its bomb bay, 2 under each wing. The FB-111A had a total weapon load of 35,500 lb (16,100 kg)   IIRC, the FB-111A had its top speed limited to Mach-2 due to its redesigned rear fuselage and SRAM heating on the wings. The FB-111A used the longer wings from the F-111B (70 foot wingspan for the FB-111A while the rest allowing for its increased Max Take Off Weight of 120,000 pounds. This required the heavier duty landing gear compared to the other F-111 variants. 69 FB-111A were built.

When Strategic Air Command went away, the FB-111A's were reconfigured for tactical use and redesignated F-111G and assigned to Air Combat Command, the remaining FB-111As were retired in 1991 and the converted F-111Gs were retired in 1993 with Australia buying 15 F-111Gs to supplement its F-111Cs. These Aussie jets were retired in 2007.


As you mentioned, AGM-69A SRAM(Short Range Attack Missiles) was replaced by the newer cruise missiles. there was the AGM-86B ALCM(Air Launched Cruise Missile) In service from 1982 and is currently in service.


The newer AGM-129 ACM (Advanced Cruise Missile), this version was only carried by B52-H aircraft. It incorporated Low Observable(stealth) technologies in an effort to reduce the chances of being shot down before it reached its target.  The AGM-129 was in service between June 1990 â€" April 2012.



AGM-86 ALCM  5-150kt yield at targets 1500+ miles away. I wonder what it feels like to have 20 of these kick off of the rotary launcher while each wing drops 6 missiles.  These things weigh 3200 pounds, that would be a great video.
"AGM-86B/C/D missiles increase flexibility in target selection. AGM-86B missiles can be air-launched in large numbers by the bomber force. B-52H bombers carry six AGM-86B or AGM-86C missiles on each of two externally mounted pylons and eight internally on a rotary launcher, giving the B-52H a maximum capacity of 20 missiles per aircraft."

"The CALCM was retired on 20 November 2019, replaced in the conventional standoff strike role by the AGM-158B JASSM-ER."

About the nuclear artillery shells, IIRC they are no longer fielded. The W82 was a 155mm artillery shell with a yield of 2 kiloton yield and weighed 95 pounds


Another smaller weapon system was the Davy Crockett July 17, 1962.  These weapons were to be used in an "area denial" type of mission. Supposedly a few Davey Crockets fired across a certain point so that enemy movements are curtailed unless they have full Nuclear Biological Chemical (NBC) capability..


The M-54 Davy Crockett test July 17, 1962 called the little Feller 1 and II. It used the W54 warhead which was also used in the SADM(listed below) 10 or 20 ton yield, Davy Crockett Gun warhead




The Special Atomic Demolition Munition (SADM) weighed approx 51 pounds and its Dial-a-yield can be adjusted from 10 tons(0.01 kilotons) to 1 kiloton TNT equivalent.  Troops would parachute into Eastern Soviet controlled countries and these teams would place these backpack SADMs at targets for destruction( power plants, bridges, and dams)


1958 test


The same warhead used in the Davey Crockett, the SADM and a 3rd version of the W-54 warhead was used as a nuclear version of the AIM-26 Falcon air-to-air missile. The AIM-26A Falcons warhead yield was equivalent to the detonation of 250 tons of TNT(TriNitroToluene), the AIM-26B was the conventional version

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Submarines are the ultimate death machines. Any country that has the ability to operate nuclear powered submarines, let alone having 3 Ohio class SSGN Guided Missile Submarine conversion subs surface at the same time is a pretty freaking good "show of force" without expending a single munition. That country is certainly a "SUPERPOWER" in every sense of the term.  I personally am proud to be in alliance with a force like that.
Peak-a-boo, I see you(and could slam 73 tons of explosives up your ass in short order)
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/why-did-us-navy-surface-3-submarines-same-time-asia-114731



The 4 SSBN(Ballistic Missile Submarine) to SSGN(Guided Missile Submarine) conversions took place because of strategic arms reduction treaties that limited the number of deployed SLBM(Submarine Launched Ballistic Missile) tubes the US Navy could carry. So they converted 4 Ohip class subs from Ballistic missile to Guided missile attack subs.  That reduced the total SLBM force by 96 tubes. But each of those former SLBM tubes was now a home for 7 vertically launched guided missiles.  The remaining Trident II SLBMs have had their MIRV(Multiple Independently Targetable Re-entry Vehicle) warheads reduced from the 8 they used to carry. from the previous SSBN designation of 4 of the conversions, surface simultaneously at three distinct points of the Earth each with 145 USS Michigan that puts a 1,000 pound High Explosive warhead directly upon or inside a window size target 1000 miles away.  What's that roughly 73 tons of ordnance from one sub.

“In July 2010, three SSGNs surfaced nearly simultaneously in Western Pacific and Indian Ocean waters, allegedly to signal U.S. displeasure over Chinese missile tests in the East China Sea.”

Major missile tests are potentially provocative and destabilizing. America’s intent in the aftermath of the Chinese tests was to signal U.S. strength with just the right amount and kind of potential force.

"USS Michigan in Pusan, South Korea, the USS Ohio in Subic Bay, in The Philippines and the USS Florida in the strategic Indian Ocean outpost of Diego Garcia not only reflects the trend of escalating submarine activity in East Asia, but carries another threat as well"

"In November 2011, Lt. Britta Christianson became the first female officer, and first female overall, to qualify for service on a US Navy submarine, being assigned to Ohio's Gold Crew. (The first female enlisted sailor qualified in August 2016, assigned to sister boat, Michigan"

I found it disturbing to learn that there was a US boomer that launched in early 2020 with 2 of her SLBM tubes loaded with a Trident-II missile which is standard, but that these 2 missiles had a new super low yield warhead.  So in essence a SLBM launched tactical nuke.  IMO The smaller the warhead, the more apt it is to be used. But how does an adversary know if the incoming missiles are armed with the 475 kiloton strategic nuke or the smaller tactical nuke with say a 10 kiloton TNT equivalent?  FYI The nukes used at Hiroshima and Nagasaki were sized
75 years ago, this happened.
Hiroshima 16 kilotons



For decades this image was commonly misidentified as the mushroom cloud of the Little Boy bomb that formed circa 8:15 local time. However due to its greater height and the wholly different time of day, it is the firestorm cloud*/the pyrocumulus cloud that occurs routinely over all firestorms. A Pyrocumulonimbus cloud(PyroCb) is another superior, although not widely accepted, meteorological classification.  It peaked 3 hours after detonation


Nagasaki-Fatman bomb exploded with the force equivalent to 21 thousand tins of TNT exploding=21 kilotons


Although many fires likewise burnt following the bombing, in contrast to Hiroshima where sufficient fuel density was available, no firestorm developed in Nagasaki as the damaged areas did not furnish enough fuel to generate the phenomenon. Instead, the ambient wind at the time pushed the fire spread along the valley.




But the small SLBM warhead is worrying.

The most powerful US atomic weapon is the B03 gavity bomb with a yield of 1.2 megatons or 75 times more powerful than the  Hiroshima bomb.  the B-2 stealth bomber can carry 16 B-83's on dual 8 bomb rotary launchers.

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We just lost 6 CAF members "Stalker-22" a C-148 Cyclone that was flying off the HMCS Fredrickton near Greece and was attempting to recover aboard the ship and crashed.  the ramp ceremony was yesterday.

It was my countries largest single military incident death toll since a 2007 when insurgents killed 6 CAF members over in sand land.

Anyhoo, here's the Fredrickton



Pro Patria!

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Quote from: ItsOver on May 04, 2020, 01:49:33 PM
How did the OPP cops end up in your castle for this little task?  And did they enjoy the coffee and Timmers you thoughtfully provided, while you were enabling the fine Dominion?

We had to register our guns and they were "auditing" the paperwork. More literally they were invited in.  The "Timmies" stayed in the cabinet, they got the Maxwell House and "special brownies" as treats.

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Quote from: ItsOver on May 03, 2020, 08:39:42 AM
That's how it works.  Inch by inch.  Before you know it, you have a nasty camel in your tent, telling you to bend over.

I remember back in the 90's, I actually had 2 OPP(Ontario Provincial Police) officers in my house, writing down S/Ns of all my weapons, even my single shot 0.410 and 12 gauge shotguns.  I even had a barrel only portion of a break open single shot 12 gauge that I had split after firing it twice. they even wrote down the number on that.

Quote from: paladin1991 on May 02, 2020, 10:03:59 PM
I'm sorry you never had a chance to choose.

That's the thing, if I want to defend my home, I risk getting an improperly stored firearm charge. As all firearms must be locked separately from the ammo.  I have no children in my home BTW.

Quote from: Liberace! on May 03, 2020, 01:00:10 PM
No paperwork.  Constitutional carry means you only need to be a non-felon and physically within whatever state allows it.

Not at all.  It was purely work related.

When my children became old enough to be sneaky and get into things they aren't supposed to get into, I became less inclined to have guns in the house.  With kids, you have no option; Guns have to be locked up.  This is the problem.  The time required to retrieve a stored/locked gun makes it almost useless as a protective measure when time is of the essence, which is usually the case.  I've looked at fingerprint cases (batteries required) and other options, but I haven't seen anything that keeps kids away from weapons while allowing immediate access for an adult in a satisfactory way.

Thanks Lee, I appreciate the input.

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Quote from: ItsOver on May 03, 2020, 09:07:50 PM
What's the confidence grade for the unacast social distancing scoreboard?  Does it receive a "Mother Teresa" vote of confidence or is it closer to a Major Doom fail? 

I thought that was Ellen Degenerate.

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Quote from: ItsOver on May 02, 2020, 10:38:34 AM
Heh, that's what kills me about all this Bravo Sierra.  Just like Corona Chan, the F'n commies love to use the fear factor on the sheeple.  "Ack!  It looks SCARY!  Please, nanny dictator state, make it go away!"




https://youtu.be/aMqd5EQXD-g

Thank yeewwww
Key words 'LOOKS SCARY".  I can take any sort of rifle, paint it pink, and then proceed to kill more people than many assault rifle'like weapons could.

I thought we weren't supposed to "judge a book by it's cover"?

Let's punish the law abiding citizens for the actions of criminals.  That's rational.

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Quote from: Liberace! on May 02, 2020, 01:07:01 PM
I allowed my Missouri CCW to expire years ago.  Not intentionally, but it did expire.  I never bothered to get it reinstated because Missouri passed "constitutional carry" which obviated the need for CCW permits.

Oh OK.  Without me Googling at all, a "Constitutional Carry" sounds like being a United States citizen is a primary pre-requisite to carry in whichever area supports Constitutional Carry. 
Is your citizenship your passport to carrying, or would there still be paperwork?

Was the ability to carry a firearm in your new locale an important factor in your decision to move there?

Did having children increase/decrease or leave unchanged your desire to personally carry a weapon?

I've never legally had to make such decisions in life, nor the opportunity to.   I value your generally informed opinion.  I'm disappointed in the recent events in Canada related to gun control. I'm betting that mere handgun ownership in Canada is about to get even more difficult.

thanks Lee.

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Quote from: albrecht on May 01, 2020, 10:46:14 PM
Immediate Gabcast needed again for this story. I sadly never saw him.

Agreed, emergency Gabcast needed.  It IS Saturday.  Live from Pahrump, it's Saturday night!

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