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Started by ponyboysunset, December 19, 2015, 10:30:40 PM

ponyboysunset

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 07, 2016, 07:09:28 PM
If you are going to take pictures of foxes, please stack them properly.
Yes. Stackable foxes. Lol.


VtaGeezer

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 05, 2016, 01:33:01 PM
I did, I think that is why I do not have any tattoos.
+1.   As a large tattoo, its an oxymoron.

I see all these young girls running around the beach all inked up and all manner of metal objects dangling from holes drilled through their skin, all I can do is just shake my head. Wait until they get a little age on them.

The Alcoholic

Meh. I have more tats but don't feel like taking the time to take pictures. Here's my latest one.



albrecht

Quote from: FightTheFuture on January 17, 2016, 11:26:20 AM
I see all these young girls running around the beach all inked up and all manner of metal objects dangling from holes drilled through their skin, all I can do is just shake my head. Wait until they get a little age on them.
I mentioned this in random things or annoyances but yesterday there was a loud, fat tattooed woman at the gas station buying several pints of ice cream with her EBT card. Besides the obvious (us taxpayers are buying her ice cream) I thought "how can she afford elaborate tattoos if she qualifies for an EBT card?"

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: FightTheFuture on January 17, 2016, 11:26:20 AM
I see all these young girls running around the beach all inked up and all manner of metal objects dangling from holes drilled through their skin, all I can do is just shake my head. Wait until they get a little age on them.

it doesn't end well.

ItsOver

Quote from: FightTheFuture on January 17, 2016, 11:26:20 AM
I see all these young girls running around the beach all inked up and all manner of metal objects dangling from holes drilled through their skin, all I can do is just shake my head. Wait until they get a little age on them.
Just imagine what it would be like to see senior citizens permanently condemned to wear the same double knit leisure suit and gold chains.  Just lovely.

The Alcoholic

Quote from: MV on April 13, 2016, 01:43:20 PM
it doesn't end well.
Hey ban me if you want to be a little bitch I don't care but the last 4 post I've seen of yours EM VEE is this, which adds nothing to conversation and three "heh heh"'s


This is literally how I feel whenever I read a post from you (I can already tell from reading your rant about RCH and Gary L that writing and forming sentences with any type of decent structure isn't your forte.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7w64fbqYQY












And if you think that this doesn't "add to the conversation" well, about the females with all the tats and pieriecings? You say wait until they get older but thing is, life is short. They don't even give a fuck. Like you honestly care more about their tats then they do.


I mean do you honestly think these people here give a shit?


ponyboysunset

Per our conversation in chat scroll threw and behold my bellgab ink.

Hog

Quote from: The Alcoholic on April 13, 2016, 11:39:04 PM
Hey ban me if you want to be a little bitch I don't care but the last 4 post I've seen of yours EM VEE is this, which adds nothing to conversation and three "heh heh"'s


This is literally how I feel whenever I read a post from you (I can already tell from reading your rant about RCH and Gary L that writing and forming sentences with any type of decent structure isn't your forte.)













And if you think that this doesn't "add to the conversation" well, about the females with all the tats and pieriecings? You say wait until they get older but thing is, life is short. They don't even give a fuck. Like you honestly care more about their tats then they do.


I mean do you honestly think these people here give a shit?

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If you point out a persons verbiage, THEN try to use the correct tense, "more about tats THEN they do"  its THAN as in the conjunctive that makes a comparison and not the THEN as in the adverb which you used.  They should care MORE about something THAN MV does.  Not they care about something, THEN MV does, which means they care first, THEN MV cares second.

And now you know.

He's right, body piercings make me dry.

Praise MV!

peace
Hog

Swishypants

Tattoos: The Adult version of drawing on yourself with markers. EAT MOR' GLU'!

Hog

Quote from: Swishypants on September 27, 2017, 11:20:55 PM
Tattoos: The Adult version of drawing on yourself with markers. EAT MOR' GLU'!
I knew a chick who had a large flowery display tatt'd up her side, it was an outline. She let me colour in the outlines with markers.   She was unique, but she had to go in the end.

peace
Hog

ponyboysunset

Quote from: Swishypants on September 27, 2017, 11:20:55 PM
Tattoos: The Adult version of drawing on yourself with markers. EAT MOR' GLU'!
I am working on two full sleeves. Zero regret. Love being tattooed. But hey to each his own, amirite? ;)
And it should have been scroll through not threw. I was tired last night. People are always like what about getting a job? News flash most places don't care. At Chrysler I had to cover them, this was long before I was almost sleeved. At my current office job my boss gives zero fucks. I remember I asked him once if I needed to cover up for a middle eastern client we had coming in and he was like no don't worry about it. It's about expression and I just love how it feels to get them and love how they look.

Hog

There was a guy at nursing school that was sleeved.  His clinical placements required his to cover his tats.
A few generations ago, if you had a tattoo, you generally were seen a scumbag, leading a scumbag life, and visible tattoos and you were generally not to be trusted.

Today, the tattoo and its grossly negative connotation isn't as bad, however, as the guy from nursing school found out,  many of these people from a few generations ago are now in positions that require care. The reaction of these people is quite dramatic and can be a huge hinderance to trying to establish a therapeutic relationship, while sometimes the reaction is mild such as to stimulate a conversation about the meaning behind said tattoo.

I will have to disagree with ponyBoySunsets newsflash that " most places don't care." about visible tattoos.  Of course everyones opine is different, and everyones experience will be different as it will really depend on what circles you travel in. Some intelligence and forethought goes a long way in life.  Perhaps getting full sleeves when you're 16 isn't the best way to keep all your career avenues open.  By all means do what you wish, because when we were 16 ourselves, we all knew everything right?  By all means get your tattoos, but don't be so godsmacked that you have some people is some situations that look at you like you have just urinated on their children. While if this exchange of pleasantries takes place at the beach, it might not be so important, if it occurs when you reach out to shake your interviewers hand, yes, there is the chance that the next few minutes of your effort attempting to secure the position, just might be in vain.

I would also like to add, that merely having a tattoo is one thing, but the message the tattoo sends is quite another. A sleeve of flowers and a sleeve of swastika covered horseporn adorning your arms are very different.  I must be on the verge of being some sort of -IST here.  I find that a certain colour/design of tattoo ink is acceptable while another colour/design is not acceptable.  Am I being colourist or designist, or pigmentist?  Or just being a plain old asshole?

Whatever my -ist is, my personal opinion is that a tattoo should have a personal connection to yourself.  I wont get a tattoo just to have a tattoo, they have deep meaning to me personally. But that's just me.

I will say that there have been a couple times where arm tattoos have made it interesting to find a vein.  You have to trust your palpation as my visualization was leading me astray, but she flashed red and we were all good to go in the end.

peace
Hog

ponyboysunset

Fair enough Hog. What I should have said as it depends on your industry. Good and thought out post.

Dr. MD MD

I had a girlfriend years ago who had maori style sleeves on her arms and legs. It was like this in style but much more elaborate and colourful.


Uncle Duke

What does it cost to get sleeved?

ponyboysunset

Quote from: Uncle Duke on September 28, 2017, 08:44:57 AM
What does it cost to get sleeved?
Depends on what you get Uncle Duke. It's not cheap.

And Dr Md Md that's cool. I tend to do heavy color myself as I am so pale and color shows up well on me and I like it.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: ponyboysunset on September 28, 2017, 08:59:14 AM
Depends on what you get Uncle Duke. It's not cheap.

And Dr Md Md that's cool. I tend to do heavy color myself as I am so pale and color shows up well on me and I like it.

Actually, they were really more like this in style but with more color and a fish motif.



ItsOver

Tattoos, attractiveness, body language... people are going to judge others, whether we like it or not, and for a multitude of reasons, often superficially and, apparently, quite quickly.  First impressions can be a bitch or a blessing.  Welcome to human nature.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/despite-popularity-tattoos-people-still-judge-those-body-ink-287056

Pick your game in this life but beware of the consequences.


ponyboysunset

Yes people do judge. But I have had people start to talk to me because of my tattoos which is cool and I'm sure some have avoided me as well for the same reason lol.

And hot tattooed chicks. I like it.  8)

Hog

Quote from: ponyboysunset on September 28, 2017, 08:59:14 AM
Depends on what you get Uncle Duke. It's not cheap.

And Dr Md Md that's cool. I tend to do heavy color myself as I am so pale and color shows up well on me and I like it.
PBS, if your avatar is a display of some of your art, then yes you have some wonderful skin tone for some heavy colour. An excellent canvass for an artist to work with. (my apologies if that sounds to "Silence of the Lambs")

A personal question if you don't mind, having pale skin, have you had any issues with fading due to UltraViolet (U/V) sunlight exposure?  I'm told that U/V exposure reacts with the dyes and can cause fading.
I've got one tat that traditionally doesn't see the Sun much at all, but the reds have faded the most.

peace
Hog

Hog

Quote from: Uncle Duke on September 28, 2017, 08:44:57 AM
What does it cost to get sleeved?
Here are a couple responses Uncle Duke, but asking the cost of a sleeve is akin to asking how much does a cart of groceries cost? Many variables

Here's a few.

"Last time I heard an artist quote a sleeve, his price was $2,000 for the entire arm or $1,000 for shoulder to elbow (half sleeve.)

Here's the thing though: Every artist will vary, there is no 'standard going rate' and you get what you pay for.

Some artists charge by the hour and you pay for however long it takes to get work done. Some artists charge  by the piece and will quote the project without regard to how long it will take to complete."





"Purchasing a tattoo is the same as making any other investment into art.  Sometimes you can find an incredible artist at very reasonable rates and sometimes you can buy a polished turd for tourist prices. 

Many people spend far too much on sleeves or other large scale tattoos that they will forever remain unhappy with by starting out with the exact same question you have. "How much?" Because with that mentality the next logical move once you receive an answer is to look for it somewhere else for less.  Price shopping for tattoos usually leaves you in a subpar artist's chair receiving subpar art and tattoo services. Then what do you have? A sleeve that you're unhappy with. After a few years of looking at other sleeves that are far better most people choose to go to another artist to try and salvage the bad decision they made years prior.  The smart ones have done research and decided on a competent artist at the second time, but... The truth of the matter is, at this point the tattooer is entering a fight with one arm tied behind their back.  Cover ups and reworks never turn out the same quality as a tattoo that starts with blank skin.  Success is determined by wether or not the tattoo looks better than it did before, not by completion of original intent. 

I can assure you that the best way to get an answer to your question and a quality tattoo is to decide what you would like your sleeve to look like. Think style(i.e. Traditional Japanese or Americana, color or black and grey, realistic, geometric, etc.), think theme, think subject matter.  Then spend hours and hours scouring the internet and social media sites at hundreds of hundred of tattooers work.  This is a much easier task today than say 20 years ago when you physically had to travel shop to shop to look at portfolios.  Don't bother looking at the artists location, airplanes make the world a very small place, and when you find the artist that you want, I promise no distance is too great.  You have your entire life to wear this tattoo and you shouldn't sell yourself short. Make sure that every time you look at your forearm you're satisfied.  Tattoos are the only thing you have with you for the rest of your life, everywhere you go until you die. It amazes me what some people will spend on shoes or vacations and then bargain shop for a tattoo.

After you have all of the above determined, contact the artist you've chosen and ask about their preferred method of appointment consultation. Please keep in mind that many quality tattoo artists eat sleep and breath their jobs so sometimes answering the emails takes a little time, especially older artists that have tattooed longer than the internet has been around.  Many artists work 8-12 hours a day at the studio then go home to paint or draw for the following days/weeks, so sometimes you need a little patience and persistence.   During your consultation, after you've discussed your ideas you'll have the opportunity for "How much?". But most artist prefer it if you're a wee bit smoother, as in "What's your hourly rate?", and "About how many sessions do you think this will take and how many hours will we be working per session?". If this exceeds your projected budget this would be a good time to mention that and discuss other options.  Be honest and up front with what you have to spend.  Most good artists that I know aren't crooks, they just want what they have determined their work is worth.  Some adjust this by the laws of supply and demand and others keep a set rate their entire career.  Every artist is different, and as always in the art market it's buyer beware. Do your homework before you purchase."





"I have both of my arms done from shoulder to wrist.  For both arms, I sat for around 40 hours total (broken up into multiple 4-5 hour sessions).  I paid $125/hr, so not including tipping (and don't forget to tip â€" seriously), I figure I paid about $2,500 an arm. I normally tip $50 per session, and I always tip double the session cost on the final session as a thank you, so add in another $1,000 or so for tips.

It's not cheap, but it's your skin and it's forever. Choose an artist based on  skill, not price, and save if you need to.  You get what you pay for."







"There are a lot of variables that will affect the answer you're looking for, including, but not limited to:

1. The hourly rate of your tattoo artist

2. The amount of detail in each tattoo on the sleeve

3. How long it takes to complete the sleeve


I would recommend not going with the cheapest artist, but with the artist that puts quality above all else. 


My forearm/shoulder tattoo (shoulder joint to elbow) cost me $1100, not including tip, and it only covers from the front to the back of the upper arm. It does not cover the inner arm (the area that touches the torso). 

I'd say you're looking at about $3500 at the very least for a sleeve tattoo. "








"I have an appointment with Jun Cha (Monarc Studios ),
He doesn't charge hourly, he prices by the piece. I'm paying $14,000 for my shoulder to wrist.... but he also has a 2 year waitlist :)"



peace
Hog

ponyboysunset

Quote from: Hog on September 28, 2017, 09:30:35 AM
PBS, if your avatar is a display of some of your art, then yes you have some wonderful skin tone for some heavy colour. An excellent canvass for an artist to work with. (my apologies if that sounds to "Silence of the Lambs")

A personal question if you don't mind, having pale skin, have you had any issues with fading due to UltraViolet (U/V) sunlight exposure?  I'm told that U/V exposure reacts with the dyes and can cause fading.
I've got one tat that traditionally doesn't see the Sun much at all, but the reds have faded the most.

peace
Hog
No worries Hog, ask away. No fading as I generally avoid the sun being so pale and yes that is me. I posted it so someone from chat last night for the podcast could see it. I heavily sunscreen when I do go out for longer periods of time.

ItsOver

Quote from: ponyboysunset on September 28, 2017, 09:27:47 AM
Yes people do judge. But I have had people start to talk to me because of my tattoos which is cool and I'm sure some have avoided me as well for the same reason lol.

And hot tattooed chicks. I like it.  8)
Yep.  Personally, I'd just rather wear what I'd consider a "cool" shirt.  At least I can take it off if I tire of it or my fashion judgement isn't what I thought it was.  Works really well for those unexpected law enforcement encounters.  ;)




ponyboysunset

Quote from: ItsOver on September 28, 2017, 09:38:52 AM
Yep.  Personally, I'd just rather wear what I'd consider a "cool" shirt.  At least I can take it off if I tire of it or my fashion judgement isn't what I thought it was.  Works really well for those unexpected law enforcement encounters.  ;)


Great pic! Glad to see this thread so active. Hoping to avoid mug shots at all costs regardless of what i am wearing

GravitySucks

Quote from: Hog on September 28, 2017, 04:30:58 AM
I knew a chick who had a large flowery display tatt'd up her side, it was an outline. She let me colour in the outlines with markers.   She was unique, but she had to go in the end.

peace
Hog

Did you have to stay inside the lines?

ItsOver

Quote from: GravitySucks on September 28, 2017, 09:46:09 AM
Did you have to stay inside the lines?
Hmmm... I can imagine what happened if he didn't.  ;)


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