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Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Metron2267 on May 24, 2018, 10:45:18 AM
You're LYING as we know:

Nice distraction wall.

Trump was wiretapped and his campaign violated by Halpern.

Cope.

It isn't a distraction. Wouldn't YOU want to know why Russia (and it now seems possibly several Gulf States) might want to get financially involved in the Trump campaign? I would have thought Trump and the GOP might want to... ::)


Gd5150

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on May 24, 2018, 11:31:05 AM
It isn't a distraction. Wouldn't YOU want to know why Russia (and it now seems possibly several Gulf States) might want to get financially involved in the Trump campaign? I would have thought Trump and the GOP might want to... ::)

Still no evidence of Russia collusion. 2 years now. Poor hate filled lemming :(. November’s coming. No evidence of collusion. No evidence of a demokkkrat platform. The Republican landslide is coming. Not going to be good for your pedofilia is it. :(


Metron2267

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on May 24, 2018, 11:25:45 AM

You're a moron and Trump cultist. The FBI had an informant finding out about two individuals' (Manafort and Page-one is going to trial in July) links to Ukraine and Russia and what they were doing to get both countries' officials involved with the Trump campaign, and why.

Cluebat time = Ukraine is NOT Russia, for now...

Does Mueller know this?

Lol.

QuoteWhat it mean if Trump careens onward with his crusade to try and demolish the FBI, CIA, and anything and anyone else he doesn't like, is that if whatever then passes for law enforcement and counter espionage in this country won't have informants coming forward or be recruited, because they know that there is no guarantee their identities won't be revealed by a terrified POTUS who knows he's in the shit. Though, it's unlikely that there will ever be another manchild, narcissistic, petulant, idiotic fuckwit like Trump again.

Comey, Clapper and Brennan all belong in a federal pen.

They weaponized the FBI for Obama and Clinton and destroyed any faith Americans have in their 3 letter agencies.

You're in a severely delusional state not to admit that using the FBI and IRS and CIA to play political espionage on our own candidates is insanity!

>:( >:( >:( >:(

Metron2267

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on May 24, 2018, 11:28:30 AM

They were looking at why Manafort and Page with deep and ongoing ties to Russia and Ukraine might be involved with the campaign and why...But Trump isn't interested in to why Russia and Ukraine might want to get involved...Or rather he is, he just doesn't want anyone else to be.

Bullshit rationalization, you'd believe anything a Demotard told you, anything at all...

They wiretapped a candidate in a move that makes Watergate look like shoplifting candy.

Metron2267

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on May 24, 2018, 11:31:05 AM
It isn't a distraction.

Bullshit!

QuoteWouldn't YOU want to know why Russia (and it now seems possibly several Gulf States) might want to get financially involved in the Trump campaign? I would have thought Trump and the GOP might want to... ::)

Where's the quid pro quo?

Go on then - cite the actual favors dispensed by Trump:

...............waiting is.................

Quote from: Tinfoil_Helm on May 24, 2018, 10:35:13 AM
No one has ever admitted to spying on Trump.  That's just what the Trump Cultists keep repeating in hopes that it sticks.

Look, if you go and try and pick up a hooker and get busted by the cops, you can't play the victim and say the cops were "spying on you".  Trump subordinates were up to god-knows-what with their international dealings, and YES, it caught the attention of the Feds. 

Flynn took illicit money from the Ruskies and plead guilty.  Is that "spying" on poor Flynn too?

The hooker analogy fits Clapper perfectly, since this is coming out - in the New York Times first, no less - he's spinning it as ''surveillance'' and ''investigation''. 

Can you imagine a Republican president directing a spying operation on a Democrat candidate's campaign, then when caught saying it was ''surveillance'' and ''investigation''?  And that flying? 


Quote from: Tinfoil_Helm on May 24, 2018, 10:35:13 AM
... Flynn took illicit money from the Ruskies and plead guilty.  Is that "spying" on poor Flynn too?

You should probably get your facts straight.  There is a difference between having a conversation with someone and being spied on by them.  Flynn knew he was talking to the FBI.  He didn't receive any money from Russia either.  Let me help you out:

Flynn did perfectly legal work for a private company in Turkey.  As it was a private company, he didn't believe he needed to file as a foreign agent.  Apparently advising this company also benefitted the Turkish government, triggering a requirement to register according to Muller.  Yet he wasn't charged with that. 

What he did with the Russians was ask them not to retaliate when Obama took actions to punish them for their role in trying to undermine our elections.  A move he (Obama) finally made months after finding out it was happening, and nearly two months after the elections themselves were over.  Flynn's crime is telling the FBI he didn't have those conversations.

Trump and Flynn were doing the right thing, hoping to start things off with a better relationship with Russia than Obama had.  Flynn should have told the truth, or perhaps referred the FBI to the president-elect if he didn't want the content of talks between the transition team and foreign governments possibly leaked or made public.  Lesson learned, but let's not make Flynn into some evil criminal here.


Quote from: Lord Grantham on May 24, 2018, 08:40:28 AM
So much for that noble peace prize level of negotiation.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/05/24/president-trump-pulls-out-north-korea-summit/ZGv3Nb4u5zN1vICroHvupL/story.html

Trump dealing with NK looks a lot more like the way Reagan handled the Soviets than it does Clinton dealing with NK and Obama dealing with Iran.  Clinton and Obama would rather make one sided agreements favoring our enemies than walk away.

Trump is sending the message to the NK thugs.  Taunting Kim rather than retreating into diplomatic non-speak when Kim blusters and threatens sends the message it's no longer business as usual in DC when it comes to NK.  Using diplomacy, threats of sanctions, and threats of tariffs, he's put NK, China, and Russia on notice we are no longer going to tolerate NKs aggression, and their complicity in it.  Pulling out of the Iran deal put Kim on notice he's not going to sign some phony bullshit deal just to have a deal. 

Recognize it for what it is, another message to Kim that we're serious, we're past the point where threats and bluster will be tolerated, and to soften him up for when they finally do sit down together.  Meanwhile they continue to be further isolated. 

This is how thugs and dictators are best dealt with.  We should have learned that in the Reagan years.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on May 24, 2018, 11:25:45 AM

You're a moron and Trump cultist. The FBI had an informant finding out about two individuals' (Manafort and Page-one is going to trial in July) links to Ukraine and Russia and what they were doing to get both countries' officials involved with the Trump campaign, and why.

What it mean if Trump careens onward with his crusade to try and demolish the FBI, CIA, and anything and anyone else he doesn't like, is that if whatever then passes for law enforcement and counter espionage in this country won't have informants coming forward or be recruited, because they know that there is no guarantee their identities won't be revealed by a terrified POTUS who knows he's in the shit. Though, it's unlikely that there will ever be another manchild, narcissistic, petulant, idiotic fuckwit like Trump again.

Raise your hand if you thought Pud would find a way to excuse the Obama administration spying on the Trump campaign when it finally came out.  Next up:  a full threated defense of lying to get FISA warrants.

By the way, it wasn't a ''whistle-blower''.  It was someone they planted in the campaign as a spy.  Kind of a big difference.  What you are doing is defending criminal behavior, and grossly illegal attacks on our democracy


Quote from: Yorkshire pud on May 24, 2018, 11:31:05 AM
It isn't a distraction. Wouldn't YOU want to know why Russia (and it now seems possibly several Gulf States) might want to get financially involved in the Trump campaign? I would have thought Trump and the GOP might want to... ::)

I think if there was any evidence of any quid quo pro by Trump it would have come out by now. 

At some point it's time to shit or get off the pot, or are you and the rest just going to repeat this for the next eight years?


Beyond that, we do have allies.  We do have trading partners.  We do deal with unfriendly countries and even enemies.  For mutual benefit.  None of it is ''proof'' of wrongdoing.  The false accusations have been made, they've been exhaustively investigated, and Trump has been cleared (due to lack of evidence).  Time to move on to the next smear, the next false accusation.


Tinfoil_Helm

Quote from: Gd5150 on May 24, 2018, 12:18:16 PM
Still no evidence of Russia collusion. 2 years now.

Flynn PLEAD GUILTY.  There's check stubs from when he took the Ruskies money.  There's also been, what, 26 indictments and other guilty pleas?

And not 2 years.  The ONE year anno was last week.  You guys are terrible liars.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Gd5150 on May 24, 2018, 12:18:16 PM
Still no evidence of Russia collusion. 2 years now. Poor hate filled lemming :(. November’s coming. No evidence of collusion. No evidence of a demokkkrat platform. The Republican landslide is coming. Not going to be good for your pedofilia is it. :(


You're a moron...go back to your trainset Greg.  Mueller hasn't said anything yet, so you know fuck all...


Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Metron2267 on May 24, 2018, 12:38:38 PM
Cluebat time = Ukraine is NOT Russia, for now...

Does Mueller know this?

Lol.

Comey, Clapper and Brennan all belong in a federal pen.

They weaponized the FBI for Obama and Clinton and destroyed any faith Americans have in their 3 letter agencies.

You're in a severely delusional state not to admit that using the FBI and IRS and CIA to play political espionage on our own candidates is insanity!

>:( >:( >:( >:(


Oh yeah, you're a moron too.. Clinton and the FBI teamed up to rig the election so well that not only did they not leak anything they had on Trump the DEms lost the election...But then Trump did say the election was rigged didn't he? Only he didn't mention it was his side doing the rigging... ::)

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Metron2267 on May 24, 2018, 12:40:41 PM
Bullshit rationalization, you'd believe anything a Demotard told you, anything at all...

They wiretapped a candidate in a move that makes Watergate look like shoplifting candy.

You take FAR too much notice of Trump...Trump wasn't wire tapped. The Russians he was chatting to were, is it the fault of the spooks if Trump's family and hangers on were arranging shit with the Russians?

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Tinfoil_Helm on May 24, 2018, 02:38:16 PM
Flynn PLEAD GUILTY.  There's check stubs from when he took the Ruskies money.  There's also been, what, 26 indictments and other guilty pleas?

And not 2 years.  The ONE year anno was last week.  You guys are terrible liars.

Oh c'mon...They don't let facts and calendars get in the way of their devotion to the Trump cult. They keep neglecting to remember that Watergate took two years with an election in the middle, and Clinton's thing took the same.. But because it's Trump, all his money laundering, corruption, having funds donated from foreign governments, and hell knows what else; It should have been wrapped up in a week. Cos it's Trump. If any one of those had been Obama, they'd be queuing up with pitchforks.

I wonder too where the newly minted coins for the upcoming summit with the fat kid that isn't taking place now will end up? E bay?

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on May 24, 2018, 02:47:23 PM

You're a moron...go back to your trainset Greg.  Mueller hasn't said anything yet, so you know fuck all...

I'm surprised Meegan Merkel hasn't poisoned the royal family and been crowned yet.  What's taking her so long?

ACE of CLUBS

Quote from: Metron2267
It disappoints you to know that even motorcycles are sourcing global supply chains?
You must hate the US 'domestic' car industry too, right down to your Canuck Laurentian Pontiacs, eh hoser?

In summary, it’s nearly impossible to determine the exact percentage of parts made in America that are used by any American motorcycle company, including Harley Davidson and Polaris.

There is, however, still a commitment by these American companies to manufacture and assemble the motorcycles used in the United States here in America.

How American is Harley Davidson, or any other American motorcycle? At the end of the day, as many of the forums have done, we’ll have to leave it for you to decide. As for me, I’ll continue to enjoy riding my Harley, knowing that American hands manufactured most of it, and American hands put it all together. The work it generated fed someone’s family somewhere. I’m okay with that.

Push the Glitter-Glide out of the attached garage on a Sunday afternoon ?
Gloating over your unique bling from the Accessory Catalog ......
All dressed up like a pirate ...... new leathers, outrageously large H-D patches ...... perhaps a 'Lone Wolf' rocker ?
You're the 'All American Rider' ....... part of the soooo special H-D brotherhood.
A biker !

Betting you ride a Softtail of some sort.
Mandatory Vance & Hines ......
Beyond cool ......  8)
Neighbors are hiding their grins .....
Hard ridin'

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on May 24, 2018, 02:33:10 PM
I think if there was any evidence of any quid quo pro by Trump it would have come out by now. 

Well you do, yeah. It would be the first time in criminal history that an investigation had a time limit. It's wide ranging, and I doubt Mueller is particularly worried who thinks he should stop.

Quote
At some point it's time to shit or get off the pot, or are you and the rest just going to repeat this for the next eight years?

Repeat what? Pointing out what he's done, is doing, frequently using his own fucking words to support it. He hasn't a clue what to do, other than his own self preservation. That's what he is. Aided and abetted by his bitches on Fox News, supine GOP suits and his base who have one brain cell between them. All they do is throw out conspiracy theories to protect him, and when one has been blown out of the water, they invent another one.


Trump lies all the time about anything and everything, even when the truth would put him in a better light. I doubt he knows the difference.


Quote
Beyond that, we do have allies.  We do have trading partners.  We do deal with unfriendly countries and even enemies.  For mutual benefit.  None of it is ''proof'' of wrongdoing.  The false accusations have been made, they've been exhaustively investigated, and Trump has been cleared (due to lack of evidence).  Time to move on to the next smear, the next false accusation.

What has been 'exhaustively investigated'?  ;D ;D You're an idiot. Oh, do you mean the House committee that excluded interviewing (among others) Kushner? That favourite son in law who procured funds from Qatar to stop his 666 5th Avenue block going bankrupt? And when they didn't cough up, pushed his dad in law to say Qatar was a supporter of terrorism, because Saudi Arabia said so? Forgetting of course that there are 7000 US military personnel in Qatar. Still, never mind eh?

The 'exhaustively investigated' bullshit was run by and only for the GOP, it was embarrassing. And its purpose was to satisfy Trump and only Trump.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on May 24, 2018, 03:02:51 PM
I'm surprised Meegan Merkel hasn't poisoned the royal family and been crowned yet.  What's taking her so long?

Why would she? It must make a change for her to be in a country whose principle family don't dodge the draft. They don't need to, they go voluntarily.

Jackstar

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on May 24, 2018, 02:47:23 PM
Mueller hasn't said anything yet

daily reminder: Mueller is the guy who said, "we found this passport on 9/11"


How can you expect to be taken seriously?

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Jackstar on May 24, 2018, 04:08:47 PM
daily reminder: Mueller is the guy who said, "we found this passport on 9/11"


How can you expect to be taken seriously?

No he didn't. Twat.

Go and deliver the flowers Mike. Don't sniff them too hard though, it fucks your brain.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on May 24, 2018, 04:18:03 PM
No he didn't. Twat.

Go and deliver the flowers Mike. Don't sniff them too hard though, it fucks your brain.

Take it from someone with a truly fucked brain. No wonder they don't even let these people have pen knives. ::)

Metron2267

Quote from: Tinfoil_Helm on May 24, 2018, 02:38:16 PM
Flynn PLEAD GUILTY.  There's check stubs from when he took the Ruskies money.  There's also been, what, 26 indictments and other guilty pleas?

And not 2 years.  The ONE year anno was last week.  You guys are terrible liars.

What did Trump collude with the Russians to do?

Please state the actual proof.

If anyone was meddling in OUR elections it was the frigging Unfree Kingdom!

Grow a brain, or at least quit being craven liar for the deep state.

>:(

Metron2267

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on May 24, 2018, 02:47:23 PM

You're a moron...go back to your trainset Greg.  Mueller hasn't said anything yet, so you know fuck all...



Yes, we All know "fuck all" because Mueller knows "fuck all'!

He's on a years long shopping spree - the last time he did that was the Anthrax investigation - 10 years, the wrong man's life ruined and a 6 million $$ award to him from the government to end that.

The next alleged perp - suicide.

The real perps (al Qaeda) never even mentioned.

Mueller is an incompetent deep state mole, nothing more.

Stop being a delusional leftard, it's unseemly, even for a limey lackwit.


Metron2267

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on May 24, 2018, 02:49:34 PM

Oh yeah, you're a moron too..

FUCK YOU TOO YOU LYING LEFTARDED TRASH!!!!


QuoteClinton and the FBI teamed up to rig the election so well that not only did they not leak anything they had on Trump the DEms lost the election...

That's another LIE.

They leaked the "dossier" that they "had" - didn't they?

You really are a serial liar.

QuoteBut then Trump did say the election was rigged didn't he? Only he didn't mention it was his side doing the rigging... ::)

Rigged what?

The DNC and Wasserman-Schultz took Bernie out, you asshole.

And Ms. Personality, the butcher of Benghazi, took herself out with her own inimitable "charm" the cold-blooded snakehead cunt.

Fucking speak the truth for a change, you florid dipshit!

Metron2267

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on May 24, 2018, 02:58:18 PM
Oh c'mon...They don't let facts and calendars get in the way of their devotion to the Trump cult. They keep neglecting to remember that Watergate took two years with an election in the middle, and Clinton's thing took the same..

Thanks for admitting you like to see elections corrupted by phony impeachments...very Englie of you, turdbreath.

QuoteBut because it's Trump, all his money laundering, corruption, having funds donated from foreign governments, and hell knows what else; It should have been wrapped up in a week. Cos it's Trump.

Oh, there same Trump that both sides despise?

Be rational for one moment if you can.

QuoteIf any one of those had been Obama, they'd be queuing up with pitchforks.

Like the deep state did on Uranium One?

Or Bernie's banishment?

Or the Iran sweetheart treason deal?

Or his fictional "red line in the sand"?

Or BENGHAZI?????

Right....

QuoteI wonder too where the newly minted coins for the upcoming summit with the fat kid that isn't taking place now will end up? E bay?

Gee, you think coins can't be used again or re-struck?

Astounding, you can spin a conspiracy on cobwebs if need be.

You're a real piece of subhuman shit, period.

Tinfoil_Helm

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on May 24, 2018, 01:55:02 PM
He didn't receive any money from Russia either. 

Wrong again.  He took two big checks from RT.  He confessed to that and it's public knowledge.

This shit is pretty cut and dried.  If you are gonna act like a weaselly lawyer or play semantic gymnastics with something that the dude has confessed to, then just admit that you won't be honest with anything about Trump.  Sometimes it's fun to "argue" with Trump cultists and their delusions, but I'm not interested in that.  Sorry...

Metron2267

Quote from: ACE of CLUBS on May 24, 2018, 03:04:14 PM
Push the Glitter-Glide out of the attached garage on a Sunday afternoon ?

One of there finest road cruisers around...indeed yes!

QuoteGloating over your unique bling from the Accessory Catalog ......

Those Screaming Eagle chrome cam covers do look real trick!

QuoteAll dressed up like a pirate ...... new leathers, outrageously large H-D patches ...... perhaps a 'Lone Wolf' rocker ?

Beats some greasy-haired, tea-swilling, Ace Cafe mod rocker trash...

QuoteYou're the 'All American Rider' ....... part of the soooo special H-D brotherhood.
A biker !

Not really, I tend to ride dirt, sorry.

QuoteBetting you ride a Softtail of some sort.
Mandatory Vance & Hines ......
Beyond cool ......  8)
Neighbors are hiding their grins .....
Hard ridin'

Lost that bet too, ya pseudo-Ameritard.

Yamaha YZ 400, last street machine was a BMW R1100R.

Oh well, dumbass...

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