UK election results

[SredniVashtar]

Haha you're cute, Shreddy.  I am trying to imagine what kind of positive choice united ovine university students and benighted UKIPers behind the kind of wheezing old revolutionary we've largely forgotten.  Smells like a protest vote, barely more creditable than Buckethead.  But I'd expect as much from the people who thought a carnival ride looked good on the skyline of their capital.

UKIP people voted Conservative. Young people looked at a raddled old bat whose only interest was in staying in power, and preferred the alternative. Actually, that does Corbyn a disservice. Young people have an interest in the future and Corbyn was appealing to that. May was typical of the sort of Conservative who is obsessed with abstractions at the expense of people. If you are referring to Marx there then I can only say that you are either spectacularly ignorant, or American (not always the same thing). Most people don't realise the debt they owe to Marx, and prefer the comic strip view of the world.

[SredniVashtar]

As much as I detest Boris, I think the buffoonery thing is just an act for the public. He seems like a shrewd enough political operator to have gotten into a position ready to become PM after being London's mayor, but was smart enough to not swallow the poison pill that was becoming leader after David Cameron resigned and in the immediate fallout of the Brexit vote.

I might not like Sadiq Khan either, but at least he seems to have helped kill off Boris' vanity project bridge over the Thames.

No, Boris is odd. I once passed him in London (before he was famous, and just a journalist) and he was chuckling away to himself in his own little world. There might be an element of calculation in having your hair looking like it was dragged through a hedge, but he is genuinely peculiar.

[Juan]

Just to follow up, the US doesn't register anybody. Some states register voters by party, some do not.

[Yorkshire pud]

No, Boris is odd. I once passed him in London (before he was famous, and just a journalist) and he was chuckling away to himself in his own little world. There might be an element of calculation in having your hair looking like it was dragged through a hedge, but he is genuinely peculiar.

Its equally odd how he seems to have his rapacious appetite for other blokes' wives satisfied. Just what the hell do they see in him? He took tips from Trump?

[Taaroa]

Just what the hell do they see in him?

They love a man with awful hair.

[Zetaspeak]

That's the way GA elects their politicians.  In a crowded field, if no one can get 50% then the top two candidates go into a run-off election.  The Ossoff-Handel congressional race is an example of that.

Yup I think that's the best way of doing it. Even though I really hope Ossoff wins, and with him winning by 48%-20% margin in the initial election, whats fair is fair and I do believe you should get 50% either with a runoff or ranked ballots. So you don't get a elected official with 35% loving him but 65% hating him but he just got on because the 65% split their vote on 2 or 3 similar candidates.

Everyone was against Corbyn in the media but ignored the fact that his supporters loved him and this translated to the wider country. In that third world dump you'd be bleating on about the bias of the faje news media, but it's just a reflection of the class system,when even journalists who see themselves as on the left didn't hold many socialist views. The election was surprising but also rather inspiring. It's good to see people voting for positive reasons for once.

It sounds a lot like the Bernie Sanders situation. Not just the media that seemed against him but members of his own party was ready to place blame on him if he didn't do well. Twitter had BBC on as a live feed, and labour member after labour member came on as the host asks if they would like to apologize for distancing themselves from Corbyn when he became leader. 

[K_Dubb]

UKIP people voted Conservative. Young people looked at a raddled old bat whose only interest was in staying in power, and preferred the alternative. Actually, that does Corbyn a disservice. Young people have an interest in the future and Corbyn was appealing to that. May was typical of the sort of Conservative who is obsessed with abstractions at the expense of people. If you are referring to Marx there then I can only say that you are either spectacularly ignorant, or American (not always the same thing). Most people don't realise the debt they owe to Marx, and prefer the comic strip view of the world.

May's fundamental miscalculation, according to the coverage I've seen from over there, was believing Conservatives would absorb all of UKIP when many went for Labour.  I don't understand that at all, and I'm certainly prepared to learn differently, but imagining your new bedfellows makes me too happy just now.

And no, it's not Marx, silly; it's his softness towards certain forms of political violence that suggests he never grew beyond a radical youth.  I first heard his name years ago in a documentary about IRA bombings.

[Yorkshire pud]

May's fundamental miscalculation, according to the coverage I've seen from over there, was believing Conservatives would absorb all of UKIP when many went for Labour.  I don't understand that at all, and I'm certainly prepared to learn differently.

And no, it's not Marx, silly; it's his softness towards certain forms of political violence that suggests he never grew beyond a radical youth.  I first heard his name years ago in a documentary about IRA bombings.

...is the rich tapestry that is British politics. This is when I (and other Brits) say that most Americans seem to misconstrue what 'liberal' means. The typical pre-Blairite labour party voter wasn't liberal in the sense of happy clappy, love one another, no matter what. Some of the most devoted labour voters I've met (including the first boss I worked for) were embarrassingly bigotted. My old boss hated homosexuals (he fair near had apoplexy when HIV was starting to be newsworthy), black people, Pakistanis, Indians, Japanese, Chinese, the unemployed,  anyone from aristocracy, the Royal family (he joked when Chuck married Dianna it was about time there was English blood in the RF), and pretty much any Tory, any Liberal MP (not many then either!). He lauded Enoch Powell and Churchill. Hated Thatcher. Take your pick from those dichotomies! Yet he would say 'the working man' had a crap deal. He hated to be reminded that the doctor, police officer, scientist, engineer even local councillor who made his life better might be black, homosexual, voted tory or liberal, and perhaps connected to aristocracy.

[K_Dubb]

...is the rich tapestry that is British politics. This is when I (and other Brits) say that most Americans seem to misconstrue what 'liberal' means. The typical pre-Blairite labour party voter wasn't liberal in the sense of happy clappy, love one another, no matter what. Some of the most devoted labour voters I've met (including the first boss I worked for) were embarrassingly bigotted. My old boss hated homosexuals (he fair near had apoplexy when HIV was starting to be newsworthy), black people, Pakistanis, Indians, Japanese, Chinese, the unemployed,  anyone from aristocracy, the Royal family (he joked when Chuck married Dianna it was about time there was English blood in the RF), and pretty much any Tory, any Liberal MP (not many then either!). He lauded Enoch Powell and Churchill. Hated Thatcher. Take your pick from those dichotomies! Yet he would say 'the working man' had a crap deal. He hated to be reminded that the doctor, police officer, scientist, engineer even local councillor who made his life better might be black, homosexual, voted tory or liberal, and perhaps connected to aristocracy.

Oh dear.  Clearly Corbyn should get his commissars to work enforcing ideological purity, purging the party of these troglodytes.  You see how well that has worked for our Democrats.

[SredniVashtar]

May's fundamental miscalculation, according to the coverage I've seen from over there, was believing Conservatives would absorb all of UKIP when many went for Labour.  I don't understand that at all, and I'm certainly prepared to learn differently, but imagining your new bedfellows makes me too happy just now.

And no, it's not Marx, silly; it's his softness towards certain forms of political violence that suggests he never grew beyond a radical youth.  I first heard his name years ago in a documentary about IRA bombings.

About Ukip, I think there were regional variations that made it less of a straight swap. At the back of her decision to call an election must have been the fact that Gordon Brown was going to do the same but backed out. His reputation plummeted overnight. Everyone saw him as an intelligent capable man before, but after that he looked like a dithering pussy.

A few people on the left took the view that we ought to try dialogue with the terrorists and got vilified for it, but that is exactly what happened in the end. The IRA got concessions to stop bombing. There are no easy answers bout soime people have the balls to speak their minds.

[Zetaspeak]

May's fundamental miscalculation, according to the coverage I've seen from over there, was believing Conservatives would absorb all of UKIP when many went for Labour.  I don't understand that at all, and I'm certainly prepared to learn differently, but imagining your new bedfellows makes me too happy just now.

I think people get fooled when they think EVERYBODY votes on policy or even right/left ideology. Especially recently I notice there's a decent amount of people who might just vote on personality. I think some were attracted to the UKIP because they were a rebel ground "against the system" once they lost credibility, some of those voters might have just gone to who had the best personality. By the looks of it, May seems as boring as dishwater. Corbyn seems to have at least some passion and personality behind him.

(including the first boss I worked for) were embarrassingly bigotted. My old boss hated homosexuals (he fair near had apoplexy when HIV was starting to be newsworthy), black people, Pakistanis, Indians, Japanese, Chinese, the unemployed,  anyone from aristocracy, the Royal family

So what's his bellgab name? 

[Dr. MD MD]

So what's his bellgab name? 

I think he goes by IpostPhonypolls. 

[K_Dubb]

About Ukip, I think there were regional variations that made it less of a straight swap. At the back of her decision to call an election must have been the fact that Gordon Brown was going to do the same but backed out. His reputation plummeted overnight. Everyone saw him as an intelligent capable man before, but after that he looked like a dithering pussy.

A few people on the left took the view that we ought to try dialogue with the terrorists and got vilified for it, but that is exactly what happened in the end. The IRA got concessions to stop bombing. There are no easy answers bout soime people have the balls to speak their minds.

I see that, over the years, he has bravely continued his dialogue with a bewildering array of unsavory organizations united only by their violent opposition to your government's policies.  I am trying not to lapse into the vernacular to describe him but, from where I sit, his horns are not those of a prophet.

[SredniVashtar]

I think he goes by IpostPhonypolls. 

Well you're the expert at imposture. You told us all you were going to be playing golf but it turns out you're (shock!)posting repetitive bullshit on Bellgab again. Sounds like we can add fake golfer to fake lawyer and fake doctor on your fraudulent resume.

[Dr. MD MD]

Well you're the expert at imposture. You told us all you were going to be playing golf but it turns out you're (shock!)posting repetitive bullshit on Bellgab again. Sounds like we can add fake golfer to fake lawyer and fake doctor on your fraudulent resume.

I did play golf and then had lunch. Now I'm here pointing out what a complete tool you are. 

[SredniVashtar]

I see that, over the years, he has bravely continued his dialogue with a bewildering array of unsavory organizations united only by their violent opposition to your government's policies.  I am trying not to lapse into the vernacular to describe him but, from where I sit, his horns are not those of a prophet.

Just as Moses was never said to have horns in the Bible, but was the result of a mistranslation from Greek, these smears of Corbyn will continue as long as people are lazy enough to repeat them.

[SredniVashtar]

I did play golf and then had lunch. Now I'm here pointing out what a complete tool you are. 

Better let me know when you start, I might miss it.

Be honest, you were caddying. Or it was a public course - no respectable club would have riff-raff like you.

Always nice that you feel the need to explain yourself though, poppet.

[Dr. MD MD]

Better let me know when you start, I might miss it.

Be honest, you were caddying. Or it was a public course - no respectable club would have riff-raff like you.

Always nice that you feel the need to explain yourself though, poppet.

I don't feel a need to explain. You asked. If your didn't want to know then STFU.  :

BTW, your mom caddied for me. We made her walk between holes while we took the cart. 

[SredniVashtar]

I don't feel a need to explain. You asked. If your didn't want to know then STFU.  :

BTW, your mom caddied for me. We made her walk between holes while we took the cart. 

I didn't ask, dear boy. I can't think of a human being about whom I have less interest, but you have this mania to justify yourself that would be almost adorable in anyone who wasn't a cunt.

Seems like golf is a bit like your sex life - you never get near a hole you didn't have to pay for first.

[Dr. MD MD]

I didn't ask, dear boy. I can't think of a human being about whom I have less interest, but you have this mania to justify yourself that would be almost adorable in anyone who wasn't a cunt.

Seems like golf is a bit like your sex life - you never get near a hole you didn't have to pay for first.

I only pay your mom in monopoly money. She doesn't know the difference. Apparently, being clueless runs in your family.

[K_Dubb]

Just as Moses was never said to have horns in the Bible, but was the result of a mistranslation from Greek, these smears of Corbyn will continue as long as people are lazy enough to repeat them.

Haha I don't know whether I am more delighted that you at least partially deciphered my kenning or by discovering your decidedly florid complexion!  I hope you are careful in the sun.

[SredniVashtar]

Haha I don't know whether I am more delighted that you at least partially deciphered my kenning or by discovering your decidedly florid complexion!  I hope you are careful in the sun.

If you mean the oblique cuck reference, yes  I caught it.

[Dr. MD MD]

I just heard that the queen has authorized PM May to form a coalition government. I didn't catch the parties they'll be forming with but the interesting thing is that the queen would have to authorize that given that she's just a ceremonial figurehead. 

[Yorkshire pud]

I just heard that the queen has authorized PM May to form a coalition government. I didn't catch the parties they'll be forming with but the interesting thing is that the queen would have to authorize that given that she's just a ceremonial figurehead. 

In order: The DUP, and that is one of the ceremonies she has to be the head of. We love it, because the US has this ambiguous dichotomy they can't reconcile. On one hand they crow about defeating the crown and their 'We the people..." thing that Trump disregards. On the other Americans who go on vacation to the UK almost always take in the Royal Palaces. Add to that the obsession with all things RF the Americans have. Its adorable.

[Dr. MD MD]

In order: The DUP, and that is one of the ceremonies she has to be the head of. We love it, because the US has this ambiguous dichotomy they can't reconcile. On one hand they crow about defeating the crown and their 'We the people..." thing that Trump disregards. On the other Americans who go on vacation to the UK almost always take in the Royal Palaces. Add to that the obsession with all things RF the Americans have. Its adorable.

You can have those "Americans." Seriously.  :

[Yorkshire pud]

You can have those "Americans." Seriously.  :

They far outnumber you. Maybe you should reconsider your welcome in the States. Seriously.

[Dr. MD MD]

They far outnumber you. Maybe you should reconsider your welcome in the States. Seriously.

I'd say we're pretty evenly split. I'm on the side that supports the constitution. Without that we have no identity and might as well just be a plaything for Europe. We pretty much already are. That's why you're here every day trying to defend and preserve that.  :

[SredniVashtar]

They far outnumber you. Maybe you should reconsider your welcome in the States. Seriously.

I think he's used to feeling unwelcome.

[Dr. MD MD]

I think he's used to feeling unwelcome.

No, your mom was VERY welcoming...a little too much. 

[K_Dubb]

If you mean the oblique cuck reference, yes  I caught it.

Woohoo!  One soggy loaf of bread for God knows how many pearls.

Isn't it reasonable to suppose, though, that dialogue and concessions would be his response to the current crop of malefactors?