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Started by 21st Century Man, October 22, 2016, 12:36:08 AM


This winter has sucked.  Too many days in the 60's and not enough snow.  March is usually when we get our big snows though so there is still hope.

albrecht

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 07, 2017, 02:32:24 AM
This winter has sucked.  Too many days in the 60's and not enough snow.  March is usually when we get our big snows though so there is still hope.
Friggin' high 80's here?  :o The Warming, yet Seattle and Portland got records, unique snow storms? And the tons of trash left by Indian and "environmentalist" leftist Dakota Access Pipeline protests is needing to get hauled off before it melts and causing a possible environmental damage. They also are looking in case there are bodies in the garbage.

http://www.kfyrtv.com/content/news/Sanitation-crews-work-to-remove-massive-amounts-of-garbage-from-DAPL-protest-camp-before-spring-thaw-412954433.html

Jackstar

Quote from: albrecht on February 07, 2017, 06:26:55 PM
got records, unique snow storms?


I've realized a clear benefit to the weather modification program--the removal of snow from the highways is dramatically improved. The chemical ice melts from underneath the fallen snow nearly as fast as it falls.

It's happened that way the last three snowfalls here, which no longer happen as often as they did.

It is looking like we should be more worried about Republicans when it comes to a possible carbon tax.   Of course, all the proponents of the tax are unelected bureaucrats.

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-02-08/prominent-republicans-begin-push-to-tax-carbon-cut-regulations

Jackstar

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 08, 2017, 03:22:11 PM
a possible carbon tax


Quote from: Bitch-Ass Nigga Kike Fuck on February 08, 2017, 02:58:39 AM
removal of snow from the highways is dramatically improved


I feel like you're missing the headline here, as well as incalculable economic benefit, that will one day no longer be used exclusively to fund RKM windfalls.

Taaroa

South east Australia is getting cooked in a heatwave.

QuoteThere is a heightened bushfire risk, the temperatures alone over such a large area pose a significant risk, however these temperatures are occurring over extensively dry regions and should occur with very low humidity. Total fire bans are expected and should be respected. This is also another reminder that with upwards of 15 million people being impacted by this heat, avoid strenuous activity during the day.. the body will struggle to breath with increased sweat and lead to an increased risk of heatstroke

https://higginsstormchasing.com/welcome-hell-earth-australia/

For reference, 40C is 104F.




Meanwhile the same region just a few days earlier had large amounts of rainfall with flooding and unseasonable temperatures. Melbourne had the most rainfall in a day in two years, while Sydney had buildings collapse due to it.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/weather/never-seen-anything-like-it-storms-soak-sydney-with-another-bout-to-come-20170207-gu7ixx.html
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-06/melbourne-weather-flash-flooding-in-victoria-rain-bom-forecast/8243208

albrecht

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 08, 2017, 03:22:11 PM
It is looking like we should be more worried about Republicans when it comes to a possible carbon tax.   Of course, all the proponents of the tax are unelected bureaucrats.

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-02-08/prominent-republicans-begin-push-to-tax-carbon-cut-regulations
There are a substantial number of people in Energy Companies who also want a carbon tax, mainly because they, I think wrongly, think it will stop the "willy-nilly" regulations and/or other tariffs/taxes etc. The "Big Guys," I won't say Seven Sisters because it is beyond that, in a way, welcome a Carbon Tax (or any long-term) solution because it makes it easier for them to plan and absorb the costs (pass onto the customer) and plan operations. They, unlike governments and many other companies, think very long term, in perspective (Chinese government might be an exception.) They don't like uncertainty and the alternative of government(s) doing this, doing that, changing that, cutting off that, etc is worse than a system of tax or Carbon Trading that is "locked in." Now, the speculators and banks might like the Carbon Trading schemes for their own bubble-making purposes but also might not like because a predictable, long-term scheme because it, might, make it harder to manipulate and speculate on oil&gas futures etc.

Jackstar

Quote from: albrecht on February 08, 2017, 10:13:17 PM
make it harder to manipulate and speculate

While it may seem like making something more difficult to do would result in less of that activity happening, what would actually occur is that more pirates would engage in the activity, because if it is harder, it is more lucrative plunder.



Don't mind me, I'm just speculating, and manipulating the conversation. Carry on... proletariati.


Jackstar

Quote from: 21st Century Man on February 14, 2017, 03:40:40 AM
Many meteorologists question climate change "science".



Look at that product placement!






2/10
WOULD NOT SOLDER OR BANG OR SWALLOW

Jackstar

Quote from: Jackstar ℗ on February 14, 2017, 07:21:26 PM
Look at that product placement!


Ding! Time's up!
The correct subtext to be found here was: look at the obviously placed huge honkin' gem ring on the chicas' fingers.

As always, score your own sheets. Meanwhile:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX7HSNtLuO8



You know how sometimes a tired old washed up gang of has-beens will release a "greatest hits" album and use that as an excuse to go on tour to various lounge dives in various forgettable cities?

Yeah, this one is totally not like that at all.

albrecht

A strange "Feb," as Norry might say, high of 82 and now tornado warning, "strong squall lines," and pouring rain.

albrecht

Hilarious interview on NPR's "Here and Now" just now with President Begaye of the Navajo Nation bitching about the coal plant closing. The interviewer, Jeremy Hobson, is so careful, lest he offend, with the Indian but one can tell that his NPR mind is blown that an Indian would want a coal plant (which, as we all know from NPR is the most evil thing ever) or even hope Trump could help. Of course, there was the obligatory praise for Obama involved in the interview. It is NPR after all. He, finally, weakly asks about "environmental concerns" and the President quickly says "of course, in the future we will transition....etc.) Hilarious.
http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2017/02/21/navajo-generating-station

Jackstar

Quote from: albrecht on February 21, 2017, 12:11:08 PM
bitching about the coal plant closing


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/gold-in-coal-raises-shining-prospect-1458689.html

http://www.ibtimes.com/turn-coal-gold-russia-scientists-say-theyve-discovered-alchemy-process-2449193



When y'all are done relentlessly ignoring the voluminous evidence of geoengineering and weather control in the public domain, perhaps you can rustle up the requisite BDNF to check the dates on those two articles. At least.


albrecht

Just to re-start the thread. Taken the other day (before the rainy weekend.)

Jackstar

Quote from: Stellar on March 07, 2017, 10:14:34 PM
They are poisoning us by a wide spread program!  When will we bring the government criminals to justice?  People are driving around acting insane and people everywhere, their health is making them act in an adverse manner.  The U.S. Airforce must stop this even if they disobey orders.  The Cabal must and should be stopped!




Y'all might want to ask yourselves, why this yuge faggot started posting his faggot ass off, and sliding up a new thread about the same subject, after he thought I had left.

Flattering. Mega fuckin' ghey, but flattering nonetheless.

starrmtn001

No vanilla?  Damn! :-\
High winds create a HUMAN 'Sail'! (wow) | Rare Tornado Germany | Madagascar Damage.  3.10.17.

https://youtu.be/-yBpe_8CoaY





TigerLily

Quote from: GravitySucks on March 29, 2017, 02:04:37 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/03/29/j-scott-armstrong-fraction-1-papers-scientific-journals-follow-scientific-method/

Quote from: 21st Century Man on March 27, 2017, 07:58:16 PM
Joe Bastardi's opinions on climate change.

https://patriotpost.us/columnists/180

Aha. The great scientific minds of patriot post and breitbart

What do these other yahoos know?  A through C  only.  A - Z at:  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_climate_scientists

A B C D E F G H J K L M N O P R S T V W Z

Ernest Afiesimama, Nigerian weatherman,[1] former senior associate of the International Centre for Theoretical Physics (Physics of Weather and Climate Group) and head of numerical weather prediction at Nigerian Meteorological Agency. Presently, Programme Manager, Offices for Africa and Least Developed Countries, World Meteorological Organisation (WMO)
Myles Allen, head of the Climate Dynamics group at University of Oxford's Atmospheric, Oceanic and Planetary Physics Department. Lead author, IPCC Third Assessment Report. Review editor, Fourth Assessment Report.
Richard Alley (1957-), Penn State College of Earth and Mineral Science, American, Earth's cryosphere and global climate change.[2]
Kevin Anderson, Director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research and is an adviser to the British Government on climate change.[3]
James Annan, British climatologist with Blue Skies Research, UK
Julie Arblaster, Australian climatologist at The Centre for Australian Weather and Climate Research in CSIRO
David Archer, American professor of oceanography at University of Chicago
Svante Arrhenius (1859-1927), Swedish, greenhouse effect.[4]

B   
Sallie Baliunas, American, astrophysicist, solar variation.
Robert Balling, American, former director of the Office of Climatology and is a professor of geography at Arizona State University, climatology, global climate change, and geographic information systems.[5]
Édouard Bard, French climate scientist, specialized in past climate reconstruction.
Eric J. Barron (1944-), American geophysicist, President of Pennsylvania State University
André Berger, (1942-), Belgian, modeling climatic changes at the geological and at the century time scales.
Richard A. Betts, Head of the Climate Impacts strategic area at the Met Office Hadley Centre.
Jacob Bjerknes, Norwegian-American meteorologist
Vilhelm Bjerknes (1862-1951), Norwegian, forecasting, numerical models.[6]
Bert Bolin (1925-2007), Swedish meteorologist, first chair of the IPCC
Gerard C. Bond (1940-2005) American geologist and paleoclimate researcher
Jason Box, American professor of glaciology at Ohio State University
Raymond S. Bradley, American, historical temperatures, paleoclimatology, and climate variability.
Keith Briffa (1952-), United Kingdom, dendrochronology, temperature history.
Wallace Smith Broecker (1931-), American, Pleistocene geochronology, radiocarbon dating, and chemical oceanography.[7]
Harold E. Brooks (1959-), American meteorologist, severe convective storm and tornado climatology as well as conducive atmospheric environments
Keith Browning, British meteorologist; mesoscale meteorology, sparkles

C
Ken Caldeira, American, climate engineering, ocean acidification, atmospheric chemistry.
Guy Stewart Callendar, English,(February 1898-October 1964), steam engineer and inventor who proposed what eventually became known as the Callendar effect, the theory that linked rising carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere to global temperature.
Mark Cane, American, modeling and prediction of the El Niño-Southern Oscillation.
Anny Cazenave, French oceanographer specializing in satellite altimetry.
Robert D. Cess, American atmospheric scientist, emeritus professor at Stony Brook University.
Jule G. Charney (1917-1981) American meteorologist, pioneer in numerical weather modeling
John Christy, director of the Earth System Science Center at The University of Alabama in Huntsville. Best known (with Dr. Roy Spencer) for developing the first version of the satellite temperature record.
John A. Church (1951-), Australian oceanographer, chair of the [World Climate Research Programme]
Ralph J. Cicerone (1943-), American atmospheric chemist, President of U.S. National Academy of Sciences
Mat Collins, Joint Met Office Chair in Climate, College of Engineering, Mathematics and Physical Sciences, University of Exeter. Quantifying uncertainty in climate projections, dynamics of the El Nino Southern Oscillation, global and regional hydrological cycle changes, Indian Monsoon across multiple time scales, stochastic parameterisation, Arctic predictability.
Harmon Craig (1926-2003), pioneering American geochemist
Paul J. Crutzen (1933-), Dutch, stratospheric and tropospheric chemistry, and their role in the biogeochemical cycles and climate.[8]
Heidi Cullen, American meteorologist, chief scientist for Climate Central
Balfour Currie OC (1902-1981), Canadian climatologist at University of Saskatchewan
Judith Curry American climatologist and chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology

GravitySucks

Quote from: TigerLily on March 29, 2017, 06:10:11 PM
Aha. The great scientific minds of patriot post and breitbart

What do these other yahoos know?  A through C  only.  A - Z at:  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_climate_scientists

A B C D E F G H J K L M N O P R S T V W Z

Ernest Afiesimama, Nigerian weatherman,[1] former senior associate of the International Centre for Theoretical Physics (Physics of Weather and Climate Group) and head of numerical weather prediction at Nigerian Meteorological Agency. Presently, Programme Manager, Offices for Africa and Least Developed Countries, World Meteorological Organisation (WMO)
Myles Allen, head of the Climate Dynamics group at University of Oxford's Atmospheric, Oceanic and Planetary Physics Department. Lead author, IPCC Third Assessment Report. Review editor, Fourth Assessment Report.
Richard Alley (1957-), Penn State College of Earth and Mineral Science, American, Earth's cryosphere and global climate change.[2]
Kevin Anderson, Director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research and is an adviser to the British Government on climate change.[3]
James Annan, British climatologist with Blue Skies Research, UK
Julie Arblaster, Australian climatologist at The Centre for Australian Weather and Climate Research in CSIRO
David Archer, American professor of oceanography at University of Chicago
Svante Arrhenius (1859-1927), Swedish, greenhouse effect.[4]

B   
Sallie Baliunas, American, astrophysicist, solar variation.
Robert Balling, American, former director of the Office of Climatology and is a professor of geography at Arizona State University, climatology, global climate change, and geographic information systems.[5]
Édouard Bard, French climate scientist, specialized in past climate reconstruction.
Eric J. Barron (1944-), American geophysicist, President of Pennsylvania State University
André Berger, (1942-), Belgian, modeling climatic changes at the geological and at the century time scales.
Richard A. Betts, Head of the Climate Impacts strategic area at the Met Office Hadley Centre.
Jacob Bjerknes, Norwegian-American meteorologist
Vilhelm Bjerknes (1862-1951), Norwegian, forecasting, numerical models.[6]
Bert Bolin (1925-2007), Swedish meteorologist, first chair of the IPCC
Gerard C. Bond (1940-2005) American geologist and paleoclimate researcher
Jason Box, American professor of glaciology at Ohio State University
Raymond S. Bradley, American, historical temperatures, paleoclimatology, and climate variability.
Keith Briffa (1952-), United Kingdom, dendrochronology, temperature history.
Wallace Smith Broecker (1931-), American, Pleistocene geochronology, radiocarbon dating, and chemical oceanography.[7]
Harold E. Brooks (1959-), American meteorologist, severe convective storm and tornado climatology as well as conducive atmospheric environments
Keith Browning, British meteorologist; mesoscale meteorology, sparkles

C
Ken Caldeira, American, climate engineering, ocean acidification, atmospheric chemistry.
Guy Stewart Callendar, English,(February 1898-October 1964), steam engineer and inventor who proposed what eventually became known as the Callendar effect, the theory that linked rising carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere to global temperature.
Mark Cane, American, modeling and prediction of the El Niño-Southern Oscillation.
Anny Cazenave, French oceanographer specializing in satellite altimetry.
Robert D. Cess, American atmospheric scientist, emeritus professor at Stony Brook University.
Jule G. Charney (1917-1981) American meteorologist, pioneer in numerical weather modeling
John Christy, director of the Earth System Science Center at The University of Alabama in Huntsville. Best known (with Dr. Roy Spencer) for developing the first version of the satellite temperature record.
John A. Church (1951-), Australian oceanographer, chair of the [World Climate Research Programme]
Ralph J. Cicerone (1943-), American atmospheric chemist, President of U.S. National Academy of Sciences
Mat Collins, Joint Met Office Chair in Climate, College of Engineering, Mathematics and Physical Sciences, University of Exeter. Quantifying uncertainty in climate projections, dynamics of the El Nino Southern Oscillation, global and regional hydrological cycle changes, Indian Monsoon across multiple time scales, stochastic parameterisation, Arctic predictability.
Harmon Craig (1926-2003), pioneering American geochemist
Paul J. Crutzen (1933-), Dutch, stratospheric and tropospheric chemistry, and their role in the biogeochemical cycles and climate.[8]
Heidi Cullen, American meteorologist, chief scientist for Climate Central
Balfour Currie OC (1902-1981), Canadian climatologist at University of Saskatchewan
Judith Curry American climatologist and chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology

Why didn't you edit out all of the meteorologists that you didn't like yesterday? 😎

Have you looked at any of the science and ice core analysis that points to a rise in CO2 that trails a warming trend?  There are still a lot of questions. When I was in high school it was an ice age we were facing.

Jackstar

Quote from: TigerLily on March 29, 2017, 06:10:11 PM
What do these other yahoos know?  A through C  only.  A - Z at:  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_climate_scientists


Fun Trivia Fact: there is no entry in Wikipedia for "controlled opposition."



GravitySucks

Quote from: 21st Century Man on April 29, 2017, 01:53:37 PM
The fascist left is at it again.  This time they are waging war on the New York Times.

http://nypost.com/2017/04/28/times-columnist-blasted-by-nasty-left-for-climate-change-piece/

Good thing he didn't tackle the claims against the flat earth theory.

I have the shake my head every time I see someone trying to use their rights of free speech to repress someone else's right.

Social media needs a reset button. Right now people are getting used to being able to say what ever they want when ever they want to whom ever they want. Conditioning themselves to this type of behavior is going to have consequences.

1. A less civil society in real life
2. Any valid criticism lost in the noise of rhetoric
3. More than a few ass whoopings in real life when people started acting/talking like they act on social media.
4. A vacuum occurring when decent, normal human beings refuse to subject themselves to the constant harassment on social media - this does not bode well for our country. You will only have career policitians - not citizen statesmen - that tailor their whole career and persona based on focus group results.

Quote from: GravitySucks on April 29, 2017, 02:12:12 PM
Good thing he didn't tackle the claims against the flat earth theory.

I have the shake my head every time I see someone trying to use their rights of free speech to repress someone else's right.

Social media needs a reset button. Right now people are getting used to being able to say what ever they want when ever they want to whom ever they want. Conditioning themselves to this type of behavior is going to have consequences.

1. A less civil society in real life
2. Any valid criticism lost in the noise of rhetoric
3. More than a few ass whoopings in real life when people started acting/talking like they act on social media.
4. A vacuum occurring when decent, normal human beings refuse to subject themselves to the constant harassment on social media - this does not bode well for our country. You will only have career policitians - not citizen statesmen - that tailor their whole career and persona based on focus group results.

Excellent observations, GS.  Writers, politicians, celebrities and the organizations they work for should not be cowed by social media trolls. Everybody needs to stand by their beliefs and principles. Here in Atlanta we have a talk radio host, Erick Erickson, who was harassed by Trump supporters who made his life very unpleasant.  I had the same qualms with Trump as he did.  He didn't think Trump was conservative enough during the primary season and he supported Cruz as did I.  His kids were harassed and he had a health crisis where he nearly died.  Some tried to force the radio station to fire him.  He's a good man and should not have had to go through this crap.

Some people get offended so easily.  They need to dial it down a few notches and be more civil to each other.  All of us are unique and we will not agree about everything. 


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