President Donald J. Trump

[mikuthing01]

>a fucking leaf not liking Rush

[Jackstar]

>a fucking leaf not liking Rush

https://youtu.be/G4dCnYhbsgs?t=442

[Donald Noory]

A modern day douchebag

What you say about his company
Is what you say about society
Catch the mist, catch the myth
Catch the mystery, catch the drift

[Jackstar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R1vT87nrUQ

A modern day douchebag

Back in the day, real men douched their women with semen. Get used to this concept, beta-punk.

[Donald Noory]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R1vT87nrUQ


Back in the day, real men douched their women with semen. Get used to this concept, beta-punk.

[Value Of Pi]

If you can be arsed to wade through this, it has some telling comments. Other than that, Trump is an inarticulate meanderer who has the attention of thought of a six week old puppy. Oh dear.


http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/23/us/politics/trump-new-york-times-interview-transcript.html

If you haven't read it, check out Frank Bruni's column on the meeting. No surprises but some good insight.

I picture the Trump White House being like a royal palace in olden days, with an unprepared, vain and vindictive king who couldn't find his slippers without help and warring factions with sharp knives looking to exercise power by ingratiating themselves with said king and eliminating the opposition. Some excerpts:

"And though one of his splenetic tweets just seven hours before our meeting had again branded The Times a “failing” news organization, he said to our faces that we weren’t just a “great, great American jewel” but a “world jewel.”

There was a lesson here about his desire to be approved of and his hunger to be loved. There was another about the shockingly unformed, pliable nature of the clay that is our 70-year-old president-elect.

His reservations about waterboarding, he said, arose from a conversation he’d just had with James Mattis, a retired Marine general under consideration for secretary of defense. During that talk Mattis had bluntly questioned waterboarding’s effectiveness â€" and so, now, did Trump."

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"Will he tilt in whatever direction, and toward whichever constituency, is the surest source of applause? Is our best hope for the best Trump to be so fantastically adulatory when he’s reasonable that he’s motivated to stay on that course, lest the adulation wane?"

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/22/opinion/donald-trumps-demand-for-love.html?ref=opinion&mtrref=www.nytimes.com&gwh=303D2AD9A1F1D5B96901A5144095F051&gwt=pay&assetType=opinion

[Jackstar]

Some excerpts:

"And though one of his splenetic tweets just seven hours before our meeting had again branded The Times a “failing” news organization, he said to our faces that we weren’t just a “great, great American jewel” but a “world jewel.”

It's curious how you're leaving out the subtext; in that, the NYT is owned by a Mexican robber baron. "American," "World" "JEW-el," indeed.

There was a lesson here about his desire to be approved of and his hunger to be loved. There was another about the shockingly unformed, pliable nature of the clay that is our 70-year-old president-elect.

I don't see how you've made much of a case for this, or, in fact, any at all.

[Donald Noory]

If you haven't read it, check out Frank Bruni's column on the meeting. No surprises but some good insight.

I picture the Trump White House being like a royal palace in olden days, with an unprepared, vain and vindictive king who couldn't find his slippers without help and warring factions with sharp knives looking to exercise power by ingratiating themselves with said king and eliminating the opposition. Some excerpts:

"And though one of his splenetic tweets just seven hours before our meeting had again branded The Times a “failing” news organization, he said to our faces that we weren’t just a “great, great American jewel” but a “world jewel.”

There was a lesson here about his desire to be approved of and his hunger to be loved. There was another about the shockingly unformed, pliable nature of the clay that is our 70-year-old president-elect.

His reservations about waterboarding, he said, arose from a conversation he’d just had with James Mattis, a retired Marine general under consideration for secretary of defense. During that talk Mattis had bluntly questioned waterboarding’s effectiveness â€" and so, now, did Trump."

------------------------------------

"Will he tilt in whatever direction, and toward whichever constituency, is the surest source of applause? Is our best hope for the best Trump to be so fantastically adulatory when he’s reasonable that he’s motivated to stay on that course, lest the adulation wane?"

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/22/opinion/donald-trumps-demand-for-love.html?ref=opinion&mtrref=www.nytimes.com&gwh=303D2AD9A1F1D5B96901A5144095F051&gwt=pay&assetType=opinion

Trump's advisors are also lying to him, in order to manipulate him and get what they want.

http://qz.com/843972/donald-trump-is-not-even-in-the-white-house-and-reince-preibus-his-chief-of-staff-is-allegedly-already-lying-to-him/

[albrecht]

Again, I'm not surprised, you obviously either aren't from this country or simply went to a bad school and don't know the law or process. Or just a teenage troll. Again, here are the links to actual rules, law, and process. Not some "meme generator" link picture. I find it curious you won't address the actual facts and law.

Re: the census and counting people who can't vote (depending on the State and type of election:) such as illegal aliens, criminals, children, ex-cons, the mentally ill adjudicated by a court, legal residents but non-citizens, etc. And how those people, who can't vote (legally depending on the State and type of election) can be used to weigh, the Representatives in the House and the Electoral College for future elections.

I rarely reply to you because you seem so uneducated, but maybe just a troll, so I'll take the bait this time so that others can see how the system will be manipulated in the future. Scheme didn't work, this time. Here is the law and data for those who are from another country or went to a bad public school:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/13/141
https://www.census.gov/population/apportionment/about/faq.html#Q2
https://www.census.gov/population/apportionment/about/faq.html#Q17
https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/allocation.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-immigrant-census-count-stirs-debate/

[Jackstar]

you obviously either aren't from this country or simply went to a bad school and don't know the law or process. Or just a teenage troll.

http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html

http://www.whale.to/b/sweeney.html

https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm



Well I'll tell you one thing--he's not a fuckin' chemtrail.

[Donald Noory]

Again, I'm not surprised, you obviously either aren't from this country or simply went to a bad school and don't know the law or process. Or just a teenage troll. Again, here are the links to actual rules, law, and process. Not some "meme generator" link picture. I find it curious you won't address the actual facts and law.

One part of the scheme, which this time didn't work, is that the census counts all people- even those they shouldn't vote, like all of the millions of illegals, children, criminals, ex-cons, the mentally ill (depending on State and Federal laws about who can vote in what elections.) Often these people are found in the Democratically run larger cities and even pandered to (sanctuary cities etc to attract more illegals.) So those States get more Representatives in Congress and more Electoral Votes based on the census.

Now, the scheme didn't work this time but doesn't bode well for elections in the future- especially if Obama grants even broader amnesty and keeps the borders wide-open. Even if Trump and Congress actually does try to do something about it the sheer numbers Obama is allowing in and the push-back from violent radical groups and the 5th Columnists already here, and their Democrat and billionaire backers, might make fair elections impossible in the future.

You're a complete loon and your points in your original post are laughable. As if Obama and Democrats have some sort of "scheme" going to fill up "sanctuary cities" with illegals, criminals, ex-cons and the mentally ill so they can be included in the census so that "those States get more Representatives in Congress and more Electoral Votes based on the census."

You're nuttier than a fruitcake and your alleged facts are full of more distortions than a funhouse mirror. You have zero credibility, and as far as education goes, we all know which book you were reading all those years you were being home schooled.

[Donald Noory]

http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html

http://www.whale.to/b/sweeney.html

https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm



Well I'll tell you one thing--he's not a fuckin' chemtrail.

Pssst! Hey! 9/11 was in inside job. Don't tell anyone!

[Jackstar]

As if Obama and Democrats have some sort of "scheme" going

Labour wanted mass immigration to make UK more multicultural, says former adviser

Labour threw open Britain's borders to mass immigration to help socially engineer a "truly multicultural" country, a former Government adviser has revealed.

Tom Whitehead By Tom Whitehead, Home Affairs Editor6:42PM BST 23 Oct 2009

The huge increases in migrants over the last decade were partly due to a politically motivated attempt by ministers to radically change the country and "rub the Right's nose in diversity", according to
Andrew Neather, a former adviser to Tony Blair, Jack Straw and David Blunkett.

your alleged facts are full of more distortions than a funhouse mirror. You have zero credibility,

I'd trust albrecht with the keys to my house.

[Donald Noory]

Labour wanted mass immigration to make UK more multicultural, says former adviser

Labour threw open Britain's borders to mass immigration to help socially engineer a "truly multicultural" country, a former Government adviser has revealed.

Tom Whitehead By Tom Whitehead, Home Affairs Editor6:42PM BST 23 Oct 2009

The huge increases in migrants over the last decade were partly due to a politically motivated attempt by ministers to radically change the country and "rub the Right's nose in diversity", according to
Andrew Neather, a former adviser to Tony Blair, Jack Straw and David Blunkett.



I'd trust albrecht with the keys to my house.

Didn't know Obama was President of the U.K, moron.

You can move in with Albrecht when you find yourself homeless because you haven't found a job yet.

[Jackstar]

Obama to Push Immigration Bill as One Priority, APRIL 8, 2009

Didn't know Obama was President of the U.K, moron.

... yet.

[Jackstar]

you haven't found a job yet.

I found your job.

[albrecht]

You're a complete loon and your points in your original post are laughable. As if Obama and Democrats have some sort of "scheme" going to fill up "sanctuary cities" with illegals, criminals, ex-cons and the mentally ill so they can be included in the census so that "those States get more Representatives in Congress and more Electoral Votes based on the census."

You're nuttier than a fruitcake and your alleged facts are full of more distortions than a funhouse mirror. You have zero credibility, and as far as education goes, we all know which book you were reading all those years you were being home schooled.

More meme generator argument.  I'm not saying the Constitution was written to encourage this (you will recall many historical events/fights about how to proper apportion votes with black slave or Indian populations, etc in our history and during the Founding, and after, until, finally, all people were considered equal. A huge problem and cause of dispute between Northern, Southern- and then Western etc states because every State wants more votes.) 3/5 Compromise and etc.

Simply that Obama, and the Democrats, see a flaw in the system to be exploited. Flood certain States with illegals (or other undesirables who can't, legally, vote,) the census counts EVERYBODY in that state and then House Rep seats and Electoral College Electors are apportioned on those numbers. So even if a sizeable number of people counted in the census are illegals or can't vote if he legally (on a VISA, in prison, an ex-con adjudicated mentally ill, etc) they still allow Democrat states to gain more representation in Congress and more Electors. As Obama keeps the borders open it makes it harder and harder to have a fair election. Instead of memes I will cite the LAW:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/13/141
https://www.census.gov/population/apportionment/about/faq.html#Q2
https://www.census.gov/population/apportionment/about/faq.html#Q17
https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/allocation.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-immigrant-census-count-stirs-debate/

[Donald Noory]

More meme generator argument.  I'm not saying when the Constitution was written to encourage this (you will recall many historical events/fights about how to proper apportion votes with black slave or Indian populations, etc in our history and during the Founding until, finally, all people were considered equal.) Simply that Obama, and the Democrats, see a flaw in the system to be exploited. Flood certain States with illegals (or other undesirables who can't, legally, vote,) the census counts EVERYBODY in that state and then House Rep seats and Electoral College Electors are apportioned on those numbers. So even if a sizeable number of people counted in the census are illegals or can't vote if he legally (on a VISA, in prison, an ex-con adjudicated mentally ill, etc) they still allow Democrat states to gain more representation in Congress and more Electors. As Obama keeps the borders open it makes it harder and harder to have a fair election. Instead of meme I will cite the LAW:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/13/141
https://www.census.gov/population/apportionment/about/faq.html#Q2
https://www.census.gov/population/apportionment/about/faq.html#Q17
https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/allocation.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-immigrant-census-count-stirs-debate/

Your premise is absurd. Please cite actual evidence that shows Obama was involved in the alleged "scheme" you speak of, to fill "sanctuary cities" with illegals, criminals, ex-cons and the mentally ill so they can be included in the census so that "those States get more Representatives in Congress and more Electoral Votes based on the census."

I'm still waiting for you to prove that there was any such "scheme", as you put it. Again, your arguments are complete hot air and absurd to the extreme. You have absolutely no evidence to point to, to prove unequivocally that there is some type of "scheme" engaged in by Obama. You live in a fact-free universe, like your new president-elect.

[Jackstar]

Your premise is absurd. Please cite actual evidence

19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the 'play dumb' rule.  Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant  and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html



You're adorable. Is that your mother's nose you have?

[Jackstar]

You're a complete loon and your points in your original post are laughable.

In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

The only thing that really bothers me about what you're doing is that you're so talentless at it. A true hack. You make Snoory look like a professional.

I'm embarrassed for your father.

[Donald Noory]

http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html



You're adorable. Is that your mother's nose you have?

You're even more adorable. Is that your father's (lack of) work ethic you have?

BTW, still waiting for actual evidence showing Obama had a "scheme" to fill "sanctuary cities" with illegals, criminals, ex-cons and the mentally ill so they can be included in the census so that "those States get more Representatives in Congress and more Electoral Votes based on the census."

[Jackstar]

evidence to point to, to prove unequivocally that there is some type of "scheme" engaged in by Obama.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKxDdxzX0kI

still waiting for actual evidence showing Obama had a "scheme"

19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the 'play dumb' rule.  Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant  and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

[Donald Noory]

In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources

Like your valid sources? Such as David Icke? You make me embarrassed to be human.

[Jackstar]

"So, as you read any such discussions, particularly so in Internet news groups (NG), decide for yourself when a rational argument is being applied and when disinformation, psyops (psychological warfare operations) or trickery is the tool. Accuse those guilty of the latter freely. They (both those deliberately seeking to lead you astray, and those who are simply foolish or misguided thinkers) generally run  for cover when thus illuminated, or -- put in other terms, they put up or shut up (a perfectly acceptable outcome either way, since truth is the goal.)" -- Thomas Jefferson

[Donald Noory]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKxDdxzX0kI


19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the 'play dumb' rule.  Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant  and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

Bwahahaha. You cite that 10 second clip as evidence? Did you even graduate from high school? I can see why you're unemployable.

[Jackstar]

You cite that 10 second clip as evidence?

I'm not citing anything. Those are examples.

They're meant to make an example... of you. I'm frankly amazed how that is at all lost upon you.

[albrecht]

BTW, still waiting for actual evidence showing Obama had a "scheme" to fill "sanctuary cities" with illegals, criminals, ex-cons and the mentally ill so they can be included in the census so that "those States get more Representatives in Congress and more Electoral Votes based on the census."

That is not his only reason for Obama throwing open the border, DREAMER ACT, importing "refugees," and "asylum seekers," and especially excepting illegal children and minors (some of whom are gang-members in late teens and 20's,) etc, maybe not even his main reason for doing so. Just one of his many reasons to try to destroy "fundamentally change" the country.

But it is not just Obama and his Party that use this type of scheme, in various European countries a similar type of flood/invasion of illegals and "refugees" is being done for similar goals ("fundamental change," "diversity," hope to break hold-out countries and then "unite" under more central EU control, and so forth. So far, it is not working, but time will tell. I think Brexit might, actually, help the EU consolidate more. But if a country like France or Germany go that dream is over (and will be reconstituted another way, of course.)

[Yorkshire pud]

Trump's advisors are also lying to him, in order to manipulate him and get what they want.

Senda has Ol Gerry, a51d, and SWT (Although they're the same person), who tell him what he wants to hear, and gets distressed when they don't....

Trump has his own circle of friends, who tell him what he wants to hear....he lies, a lot. He fabricates stuff he thinks makes him appealing...and guess what? So does Senda.

Anyone seen the two of them in the same room together?

Didn't think so.

[Jackstar]

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2016/11/23/the-obama-administration-is-about-to-admit-refugees-australia-rejected-n2249333

"This situation is concerning for many reasons...your departments negotiated an international agreement regarding refugees without consulting or notifying Congress. Such information was not disclosed to Congress during the annual refugee consultation that occurred on September 13, 2016, even though your staff confirmed that the agreement had, at the time, been negotiated 'for months,'" Grassley wrote in a letter to Secretary of State John Kerry and Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson Thursday afternoon. "The individuals who will be resettled are coming from countries of national security concern. In fact, two of the countries are officially designated by the State Department to be State Sponsors of Terrorism." 

[Yorkshire pud]

Trump needs an unhinged, barely mature 'enforcer' for those meetings that aren't going his way.

And all legal too!


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