Art Bell

[21st Century Man]

Can it?

But hey the moving goal posts strategy. Maybe science can't detect demons because they don't exist! I mean you can't use science one time and dismiss it the next.

It hasn't been proven or disproven.   There is no way to measure the data right now.  The best we have now is circumstantial evidence and eyewitness testimony.  Either you believe it or you don't and you obviously choose the latter.  That's just dandy with me!! 

[norland2424]

A whole lot of people need killing...

[mikuthing01]

You know as well as I do that science can not prove a damn thing about demons at this point

I think they will soon and wont be able to put them back in that bottle.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Using an Austrian voice (who, by the way might elect a good party,) "Its not a tumor." 

Itths nawt a toomaw

[albrecht]

Itths nawt a toomaw

what that guy did with kinders? Lawsuits.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Question: Nobody reached renewal

STOP !!  Renewal is a lie !

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

I think they will soon and wont be able to put them back in that bottle.

This blog post might be of interest:   https://lunaticoutpost.com/showthread.php?tid=520838&page=2

[Sandra Kristen]

It hasn't been proven or disproven.   There is no way to measure the data right now.  The best we have now is circumstantial evidence and eyewitness testimony.  Either you believe it or you don't and you obviously choose the latter.  That's just dandy with me!! 

Science!

[Sandra Kristen]

A whole lot of people need killing...

We'll start with you!

[21st Century Man]

Science!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FIMvSp01C8

[norland2424]

We'll start with you!

No its true tho, the planet is over populated as it is, either options is going off world, mass sterilizations , or a conventional weapon only ww3.

[Sandra Kristen]

No its true tho, the planet is over populated as it is, either options is going off world, mass sterilizations , or a conventional weapon only ww3.

the planet is not over populated. Just because you hate everyone, but me, doesn't mean the planet is over populated.

[21st Century Man]

No its true tho, the planet is over populated as it is, either options is going off world, mass sterilizations , or a conventional weapon only ww3.

If it were left to most of the peoples of the Western World,  world population would actually be decreasing.  Unfortunately, the 3rd world,Asians, Muslims and Hispanics are producing loads of offspring to make up the difference.  Not a good situation.

[Sandra Kristen]

If it were left to most of the peoples of the Western World,  world population would actually be decreasing.  Unfortunately, the 3rd worlders, Muslims and Hispanics are producing loads of offspring to make up the difference.  Not a good situation.

Those damn Hispanics!

[21st Century Man]

Those damn Hispanics!

You shouldn't say nasty things like that. 

[norland2424]

If it were left to most of the peoples of the Western World,  world population would actually be decreasing.  Unfortunately, the 3rd world'ers,Asians, Muslims and Hispanics are producing loads of offspring to make up the difference.  Not a good situation.

Hence why its better to prevent births then to have to bomb them etc as adults just to keep the numbers down.

[21st Century Man]

Hence why its better to prevent births then to have to bomb them etc as adults just to keep the numbers down.

Hell yeah. The more contraceptives the better.

[Sandra Kristen]

You shouldn't say nasty things like that. 

I'm mocking you and your casual racism.

[norland2424]

Hell yeah. The more contraceptives the better.

I agree but the religious world is the one impending that.

[21st Century Man]

I'm mocking you and your casual racism.

Shit, what is racist in what I said?  That they have a lot of kids?  I'm the last one that's racist. I'm part native American myself. I'm probably related to a lot of Hispanics.  And I am proud to be part Native American.

[21st Century Man]

I agree but the religious world is the one impending that.

Well, I'm not part of that movement.

[21st Century Man]

Gotta run, ladies and gents.  Its been fun!   

[SciFiAuthor]

If Jesus is coming, he better come soon because the shit is really starting to hit the fan.  I've heard preachers telling me oh he's coming,   the hour and day are near, but they've been saying that since he died.  I've grown pessimistic.

Welcome to the club. I can't actually tell what sense religion makes anymore.

I hate dwelling on serious issues but  my mind goes there all too often.  I'd rather be as free as a lark and flit about, flirting with the ladies and playing pranks here and there but it gets to me sometimes.

Just fuck and be happy. It's all we have in this world.

[21st Century Man]

Welcome to the club. I can't actually tell what sense religion makes anymore.

Just fuck and be happy. It's all we have in this world.

Yeah,  you said it, bruddah.      I'll keep my options open but I'm just living life for the present.

[CornyCrow]

I am not really for or against... But that is quite the statement and judgement to make.  I think you ought to head into an inner city housing project and preach it to the youth.  Tell them how worthless their lives are.

***I suppose having had contact with a number of mentally challenged people in my life has made me wary of those who would presume to judge the value of another life using their own standards...

Perhaps I have a different attitude of criminals than you.

To go to extremes, I suppose Hitler had his good side, and he certainly would have preferred life, but many think the world would have been better without him.

I live near New York, and it's currently pressing on my mind that it seems to be slipping back to the bad old days.  I have no sympathy for the mentally ill there who push folks into subway wells and knife strangers - none.  I think these folks should be locked up for life.  We need public health facilities to catch these people. 

Yes, I think abortion is certainly more merciful than a life trapped inside such minds. 

[CornyCrow]

If men had babies, legal, free abortion would have been a settled issue more than a hundred years ago.

Thank you. 

[CornyCrow]

      Regarding abortion,  I think its a necessary evil in certain situations but it is evil nonetheless.  Segundus, with all due respect, says that she doesn't think it should be used as a contraceptives but at the same time is advocating its use should contraceptives fail.  If used in that manner, it is acting as a contraceptive. In certain industries, like the porn industry, it has been used in that manner all too conveniently.  I have a lot of sympathy with women who find themselves pregnant in certain situations and I would never tell them what to do.  At the same time, its not the woman's life that just needs to be considered.  It is the baby's life too and someone should speak out on their behalf.  And please, dispense with the if men were pregnant, they'd get abortions.  That's not good enough and as of yet that has not occurred.  It will never occur naturally.  That is a straw man argument.  If such was the case, I'd be railing against the men as well. 

     Abortion is murder, nothing more and nothing less.  With advancement in contraceptive technology maybe soon we won't need to worry about them.  I long for that day.  Until that time,  I'm not for banning procedures outright but a lot of advice for and against them should be weighed when women make that decision.  And don't forget, abortion still has its victims other than the baby.  Many women who have had  the procedures are haunted for the rest of their lives due to that terrible decision.

There are also women who have had children that they did not want and it's left mental scars on them.  There are new studied now that say children, both adopted and kept,  that were gestated in a woman who did not want them, resented them, have mental problems in their lives.  As a higher form of animal life we can exercise control over our futures that other animals cannot.  We are not to be the victims of our biology. 

There is propaganda these days of abortions being murder.  Well, yeah, you're killing something - you are killing potential life.  You cannot equate a bunch of cells with a fully formed human being who has responsibilities, life experiences, education.  That's really stupid.  When you have your morning omelette do you tell yourself that you've eaten chicken?  Do you have mental reservations because that egg did not fulfill its life? 

God is nature, to me.  Nature is not always rosy.  I, for one, would without hesitation abort rather than to carry a baby full term.  No guilt or recriminations.  If your god wanted that kid to live, he'd give it to someone who cared, because he must certainly know what I'd do.

I have never had this problem, but I feel sorry for women who still whisper about their abortion. They should be able to talk about it as they would having a tooth pulled.  If you know your decision was the right one you should not be made to feel badly for making it.  Women do not mention such things often because there are fanatics amongst us. 

Yes, I also believe in euthanasia.  To me there are things worse than death.  I do not worship life at any cost. 

[CornyCrow]

That is a sociopathically unsound statement. If we did that, the human race would go extinct within several generations. What is optimal? What is sub-optimal? Why would a woman's choice determine what is optimal and what is sub-optimal? Are poor women that choose to have children acting unethically?

I am nominally pro-choice because I see it pragmatically. It is not an issue that can be settled any other way than what we have now. But to justify it through the assumption that someone born in sub-optimal conditions has zero chance of ever doing anything so should be aborted (at the discretion of the mother or whoever decides what optimal is) is reprehensible.

This is a matter of personal choice for the woman. 

[Dateline]

Yes, if you want to compare abortion to murder.  All meat eaters have been complicit to murder.  You are an accessory in the killing of that cow/pig/chicken.  They have feelings and emotions, too.  They cry in the slaughterhouse as they are going to be murdered.  If  you are going to compare a women's right to choose a number of cells to murder.  All politicians and members of society of murderers of a greater kind.  Did that poor cow have a choice to come into the world to be your next Angus steak?  Think about it.

[PaulAtreides]

sorry, but i'm located in missouri's taint.

Really?  Wow.  If not the asshole, I would have guessed the cooter.