Ebola

[paladin1991]

 

[pate]

And while there's a means to generate panic from ill informed to the ill informed; someone will be making money. As a matter of interets,I wonder how much has been made by those cashing in? Tyvek suits, extra supplies, NBC suits, 'You Ebola bug out guide'...etc...

Never thought of that angle.  I think one of O-care's provisions was some sort of exorbitant medical device tax...  2% or 20%, that "Medical" stuff ain't cheap...

[albrecht]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/11/13/presidential-memorandum-authorizing-exercise-authority-under-public-law-
"This authority may be exercised solely for the purpose of holding harmless and indemnifying contractors with respect to claims, losses, or damage arising out of or resulting from exposure, in the course of performance of the contracts, to Ebola."
If Ebola is such a non-issue and threat why does this character Obama need to indemnify, by royal decree, USAID and others working with it? And why does he not use his middle name when making all these Executive Actions and Presidential Proclamations?

[Kelt]

I see there's an outbreak of The Plague in Madagascar being reported today.


Something else for the highly strung to start pissing themselves over.


What if it comes here and we all die?


[size=78%]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-30152979[/size]

[PB the Deplorable]

... What if it comes here and we all die?...

Shouldn't you be fear mongering over 'Global Warming'?

[Kelt]

Shouldn't you be fear mongering over 'Global Warming'?

Why?

[WOTR]

I have been out of the "news loop" for a couple of weeks.  I only get what I hear on my drive to and from work...  Are we officially no longer worried?  (Are the number of cases globally still rising, or are they fizzling out?)


I know it seems a stupid question- but for so long my internet and radio broadcasts and newspapers were 20% ebola filled and now nothing for the last couple of weeks...

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1025400/pg23&mem=

[Yorkshire pud]

I have been out of the "news loop" for a couple of weeks.  I only get what I hear on my drive to and from work...  Are we officially no longer worried?  (Are the number of cases globally still rising, or are they fizzling out?)


I know it seems a stupid question- but for so long my internet and radio broadcasts and newspapers were 20% ebola filled and now nothing for the last couple of weeks...

The numbers in Africa haven't peaked yet, but there are several medical centres being built and staffed by UK and US personnel. But although it was predicted that the USA would by now have many millions coughing and bleeding in the streets with no way of controlling it (due in part to illegal immigration from Mexico) and people flying in from the areas not affected by Ebola, it hasn't happened; which is really strange! But it's now quietly put on the back burner because if it isn't in the USA, well baby, it ain't happening.


Watch any appropriate space for the next outbreak of anti American micro biological bugs. Or Fox news.

[Kelt]

I have been out of the "news loop" for a couple of weeks.  I only get what I hear on my drive to and from work...  Are we officially no longer worried?  (Are the number of cases globally still rising, or are they fizzling out?)


I know it seems a stupid question- but for so long my internet and radio broadcasts and newspapers were 20% ebola filled and now nothing for the last couple of weeks...

One main difference I noticed between News Media in the US and UK is that while the UK News gives a broad and extensive reporting of the news, the US media seems to focus primarily on three or four primary news stories, and loops those stories again and again and again. Essentially reporting the same things on the same stories for days, and sometimes weeks, depending upon how much scandal/fear/shit they can squeeze out of it. 


And when they've squeezed the last drop of sensationalism out of an article they drop it and replace it on the loop with something else.


News reporting in the US is fucking abysmal... it's treated like entertainment rather than information.


FOX is the clear leader in terms of just how bad 'News' Media can be, but the rest aren't too far behind.

[Yorkshire pud]

One main difference I noticed between News Media in the US and UK is that while the UK News gives a broad and extensive reporting of the news, the US media seems to focus primarily on three or four primary news stories, and loops those stories again and again and again. Essentially reporting the same things on the same stories for days, and sometimes weeks, depending upon how much scandal/fear/shit they can squeeze out of it. 


And when they've squeezed the last drop of sensationalism out of an article they drop it and replace it on the loop with something else.


News reporting in the US is fucking abysmal... it's treated like entertainment rather than information.


FOX is the clear leader in terms of just how bad 'News' Media can be, but the rest aren't too far behind.

Not ebola,  but the news of heavy snow falls in NY state have obviously made it here. I thought he was joking when the governer stands in front of the camera and said. "The temperature is going to rise. This will cause melting. This turns the snow to water. This causes flooding";   and later children we'll discuss boiling water and how it feels warm. Does a rise in temperature and snow really need explaining?

[Kelt]

This is the country where you can find packets of peanuts bearing the warning, "May contain peanuts".


There's for sure a huge disparity in wealth between rich and poor in the US, but the disparity in IQ points between smart and stupid is even more marked.


Don't take anything for granted.


Let me tell you a story about a hot day, July 6th, 2007... about 4:30 PM... involving, uh, involving metallic-oxide salts...



http://youtu.be/_c6HsiixFS8

[VtaGeezer]

One main difference I noticed between News Media in the US and UK is that while the UK News gives a broad and extensive reporting of the news, the US media seems to focus primarily on three or four primary news stories, and loops those stories again and again and again. Essentially reporting the same things on the same stories for days, and sometimes weeks, depending upon how much scandal/fear/shit they can squeeze out of it. 


And when they've squeezed the last drop of sensationalism out of an article they drop it and replace it on the loop with something else.


News reporting in the US is fucking abysmal... it's treated like entertainment rather than information.


FOX is the clear leader in terms of just how bad 'News' Media can be, but the rest aren't too far behind.

Indeed.  It's depressing, and worse than it seems because while they recycle the same 3 or 4 issues for days and weeks, they also give them the most superficial treatment possible.  The Ebola hysteria was driven by media-limited ignorance and sensation.

It used to be widely accepted that newspapers write for a 3rd grade reading level.  I doubt the MSM rises to that level today. Content is at a lower intellectual level than the presentation. The cable news channels are peddling products to an audience with "knowledge ADD", more interested in being entertained than informed, and they'd collapse if they aired real in-depth reporting and information without partisan spin 24/7.  Its amazingly ironic that Fox News defines itself as an unbiased fact source and gets away with it because it constantly tells the audience that they're just good, fair-minded folks.

[albrecht]

Indeed.  It's depressing, and worse than it seems because while they recycle the same 3 or 4 issues for days and weeks, they also give them the most superficial treatment possible.  The Ebola hysteria was driven by media-limited ignorance and sensation.

It used to be widely accepted that newspapers write for a 3rd grade reading level.  I doubt the MSM rises to that level today. Content is at a lower intellectual level than the presentation. The cable news channels are peddling products to an audience with "knowledge ADD", more interested in being entertained than informed, and they'd collapse if they aired real in-depth reporting and information without partisan spin 24/7.  Its amazingly ironic that Fox News defines itself as an unbiased fact source and gets away with it because it constantly tells the audience that they're just good, fair-minded folks.

It is not just the schools that have been "dumbed down."
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/220433-analysis-obama-bush-speak-at-same-grade-level

[Yorkshire pud]

This is the country where you can find packets of peanuts bearing the warning, "May contain peanuts".


There's for sure a huge disparity in wealth between rich and poor in the US, but the disparity in IQ points between smart and stupid is even more marked.


Don't take anything for granted.


Let me tell you a story about a hot day, July 6th, 2007... about 4:30 PM... involving, uh, involving metallic-oxide salts...



http://youtu.be/_c6HsiixFS8

I've seen that video before; scary stuff isn't it? However you can't take all the credit for stupid people. Have you watched Jeremy Kyle show? Look it up...These are allowed to breed; well that's the premise of the show. Can't you keep your legs together? Do you regularly shag your mother in law/sister in law/step child? Can't you stop beating up your girlfriend/wife? Do you take narcotics for breakfast, lunch and dinner? Are most of your teeth a fond memory? Can't you stop drinking booze? Are you over 300lbs, never wash, never change your clothes and think you're gods gift to woman/mankind? Then call this number and get on the show.


Depressing isn't close.



http://youtu.be/RFCrJleggrI


part two


http://http://youtu.be/1JWuFGMq3ZA

[WOTR]

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Thanks for those... It demonstrates the trend quite well.  I guess for awhile ebola was everywhere.  In Europe they had a couple of cases- the ones in the US... My newspapers were filled with it and my radio boiled over.  Canadian news used to be better at reporting events that were outside of N. America.  I assume that they have seen the profit to be made following a U.S style of reporting.  Even the CBC cut shows like dispatches in favour of garbage that is cheap to produce and useless ("this is that," anyone?)


I suppose it is also my fault as I have not went out searching for news for the last couple of weeks...


Anyhow, thanks for the charts.

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

Thanks for those... It demonstrates the trend quite well.  I guess for awhile ebola was everywhere.  In Europe they had a couple of cases- the ones in the US... My newspapers were filled with it and my radio boiled over.  Canadian news used to be better at reporting events that were outside of N. America.  I assume that they have seen the profit to be made following a U.S style of reporting.  Even the CBC cut shows like dispatches in favour of garbage that is cheap to produce and useless ("this is that," anyone?)


I suppose it is also my fault as I have not went out searching for news for the last couple of weeks...


Anyhow, thanks for the charts.

I'm starting to become disillusioned with CBC myself, and have been paying a little more attention to the BBC lately.  I have to admit mostly I look at the NY Times or listen to my local CKNW.

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

This is the country where you can find packets of peanuts bearing the warning, "May contain peanuts".


There's for sure a huge disparity in wealth between rich and poor in the US, but the disparity in IQ points between smart and stupid is even more marked.


Don't take anything for granted.


Let me tell you a story about a hot day, July 6th, 2007... about 4:30 PM... involving, uh, involving metallic-oxide salts...



http://youtu.be/_c6HsiixFS8

1.7 million views, and now I'm one of them (sigh).  She probably made a few dollars from Youtube advertising.

[Lt.Uhura]

The news media has lost their swag for "breaking news", which is now reported faster and often more accurately via twitter and Facebook by regular people on the scene with smart phones.  Commercial news is left with little to do but spin and opine.


I miss the old days of good investigative reporting, which could still keep them plenty busy these days with all the corporate and political shenanigans going on.  But they're either too lazy to dig deep into a juicy story, or they figure their audience would rather watch the Kardashians go shopping.

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

The news media has lost their swag for "breaking news", which is now reported faster and often more accurately via twitter and Facebook by regular people on the scene with smart phones.  Commercial news is left with little to do but spin and opine.


I miss the old days of good investigative reporting, which could still keep them plenty busy these days with all the corporate and political shenanigans going on.  But they're either too lazy to dig deep into a juicy story, or they figure their audience would rather watch the Kardashians go shopping.

In all fairness, the news networks do more than "spin and opine."  They also pander, pontificate, suck up shamelessly, sensationalize, slant, skew, and distort.  I remember when Ted Turner started CNN even though he knew it was going to lose hundreds of millions, because he believed it was more important to give people 24/7 access to news they weren't getting anywhere else.  If he wasn't still alive, the grotesque infotainment travesty it's become would have him spinning in his grave.

[Lt.Uhura]

In all fairness, the news networks do more than "spin and opine."  They also pander, pontificate, suck up shamelessly, sensationalize, slant, skew, and distort.  I remember when Ted Turner started CNN even though he knew it was going to lose hundreds of millions, because he believed it was more important to give people 24/7 access to news they weren't getting anywhere else.  If he wasn't still alive, the grotesque infotainment travesty it's become would have him spinning in his grave.

Yes indeed,   And they never miss an opportunity to exploit tragedy either. 
Unlike this man...a brief moment to swallow hard and regain his composure, as he continues his job of reporting the news.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PXORQE5-CY

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

Yes indeed,   And they never miss an opportunity to exploit tragedy either. 
Unlike this man...a brief moment to swallow hard and regain his composure, as he continues his job of reporting the news.

Wolf Blitzer would have said, "We've just learned that President Kennedy has been assassinated.  This is certainly tragic news indeed, and all or hearts here at CNN, as well as, I'm certain, every other heart in America goes out to his family at this time of what can only be described as unbearable sorrow for them.


"We'll be following this story closely, and when we return from this brief break, our panel of self-styled experts will tell us how this sudden, unforeseen upheaval in the political landscape will affect the 1964 presidential race.  And later, we'll ask fsome of the world's most famous fashion designers what they think Jackie will wear to the funeral.  Stay tuned for more breaking coverage of 'The Tragedy in Texas!' Right here on CNN."

[Lt.Uhura]

Haha, perfect!


Meanwhile over at Fox... The blonde exclaims, "Oh WOW!  President Kennedy has been shot and killed!  What does this, you know, mean for the American pe...Republican Party?  Karl are you there?  Dick?  What do you guys think, huh?"  ((Big grin while staring, non-blinking into camera))

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

Haha, perfect!


Meanwhile over at Fox... The blonde exclaims, "Oh WOW!  President Kennedy has been shot and killed!  What does this, you know, mean for the American pe...Republican Party?  Karl are you there?  Dick?  What do you guys think, huh?"  ((Big grin while staring, non-blinking into camera))

And that's just Steve Doocy...

[Lt.Uhura]

And this one too...


Megyn Kelly not Liking 3 Gallons of Ebola Diarrhea per day

(Laughing) "Oh good lord doctor, ya had to go there!"

Cronkite is spinning too.

[VtaGeezer]

The decline of dependable reporting in the US is the result of corporate demands for profit.  When the broadcast TV (and radio) networks were independent entities, they ran their news departments as their flag ships; "We may air 3 hours of sit-com crap nightly, but it's proceeded by a strong half hour of quality news reporting presented by people you can trust", and they were operated at a loss as a cost of responsibility to the public and company pride.

When the networks were absorbed into entertainment media monsters; ABC = Disney, NBC = GE, CBS = National Amusements/Sumner Redstone; news dept. management was canned and reorganized under corporate managers from the entertainment business focused on division profitability instead of news and journalism.  Same happened to newspapers under pressure from both TV and the internet; they no longer made enough in advertising to support hard news gathering and they refocused on with fluffy "features" instead of the news.  Then snarky talk radio became a national plague and its ill-educated but colorful ranters brainwashed much of middle America into believing that network and print news was all a far left cabal run by the civil rights activists, socialists, and feminists, and the real truth was whatever Roger Ayles decided it was. The final blow came when Fox News created the generalized anecdote to convince people that the likes of Brokaw and Jennings were lying liberals, but they could trust O'Reilly and Hannity to give them the truth.

[Yorkshire pud]

The decline of dependable reporting in the US is the result of corporate demands for profit.  When the broadcast TV (and radio) networks were independent entities, they ran their news departments as their flag ships; "We may air 3 hours of sit-com crap nightly, but it's proceeded by a strong half hour of quality news reporting presented by people you can trust", and they were operated at a loss as a cost of responsibility to the public and company pride.

When the networks were absorbed into entertainment media monsters; ABC = Disney, NBC = GE, CBS = National Amusements/Sumner Redstone; news dept. management was canned and reorganized under corporate managers from the entertainment business focused on division profitability instead of news and journalism.  Same happened to newspapers under pressure from both TV and the internet; they no longer made enough in advertising to support hard news gathering and they refocused on with fluffy "features" instead of the news.  Then snarky talk radio became a national plague and its ill-educated but colorful ranters brainwashed much of middle America into believing that network and print news was all a far left cabal run by the civil rights activists, socialists, and feminists, and the real truth was whatever Roger Ayles decided it was. The final blow came when Fox News created the generalized anecdote to convince people that the likes of Brokaw and Jennings were lying liberals, but they could trust O'Reilly and Hannity to give them the truth.

In a nutshell. Thankfully (so far) although there are mutterings (mainly from those who are in direct opposition to it) the BBC should be open to advertising, and therefore be compromised. Many many years ago in the 70's and early 80's we had a wonderful investigative series on each monday night on commercial TV, called 'World in Action'. They never let advertising considerations ruin their integrity and told it how it was.


But commercial constraints moved in on things and integrity went out the window together any modicum of quality over cheap and cheerful appealing to the lowest common denominator.

[FightTheFuture]

They never let advertising considerations ruin their integrity and told it how it was.

LOL... funny lil` limey thinks his BBC is unbiased. Kind of cute, actually.

[pate]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/14/ebola-patient-nebraska/19020329/

http://online.wsj.com/articles/new-ebola-patient-in-nebraska-in-extremely-critical-condition-1416150412

Did this get missed in the normal thread drift to partisan bickering that goes on around here?

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My understanding of why Ebola has "dropped off the radar" as fart as news reporting goes.  Is I think on the part of the hospitals, I believe the hospitals are no longer releasing statements about 'possible' Ebola cases (people with fevers/vomit/diahero that have recently visited outbreak zones), and instead are waiting for actual test results before making any statements.

We had one of the 'possible' Ebola cases here a few weeks ago (months?), it happened to be a the hospital down the street.  My local bar (two blocks from the hospital in question) was a ghost-town on the night in question...  I had to stop in for "research" purposes of course.  And I am a idiot too I suppose...

Now, I cannot speak as to whether the hospitals made this decision about releasing statements on their own to 'avoid panics' or if these 'irresponsible news outlets' on their own had anything to do with it or *gasp* that perhaps the gov't had a hand in it as the gov't handling of the 'crisis' didn't look very intelligent.

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The facts as I see them since this voluntary 'news blackout' started:  No new/possible cases of Ebola outside the 'hot zone' have been REPORTED.  One sick doctor has since been apparently transported to Mynoc Military Base (? I guess in Nebraska ? on or around Nov 14 ?) that a week a ago and zero more info/news on that front.


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My take on this:  when it is time to panic and run around in circles screaming 'the end is nigh' the story will be back in the news, and too late to do anything about it, hence the panic.  Until then it is business as usual, everything is fine.  Except when it isn't and it is *insert political party name here*'s fault on *insert unrelated topic here*.

that is all.

carry on,

[Yorkshire pud]

LOL... funny lil` limey thinks his BBC is unbiased. Kind of cute, actually.

World in Action wasn't on the BBC; it was on commercial TV. I think I mentioned that. Funny lil murican can't read. 


This was one of many programmes they broadcast.


http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNalu0pSL2A